Dorinda Fox

Dorinda Fox
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Orlando, Florida, United States
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May 20
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I teach writing at several universities. My two daughters are five and 16. I adore my children, have trouble raising them, and you will read more about them than you care to. I am a cancer survivor. I was born and raised in Arkansas. I am addicted to Starbucks black iced tea. "What if it's boring... or if it's not boring, it might be too revealing, or worse, it might be too revealing and still be boring." Lily Tomlin referring to her teenage diary, in an interview in Movie magazine (July 1983) "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." -- Bertrand Russell "I'm teaching myself to live without sleeping because I don't trust my dreams." -- Jon Stewart on the Daily Show

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Salon.com
NOVEMBER 6, 2009 10:36AM

Is the Fort Hood Shooter Really a "Radical" Muslim?

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The tiny tornado who weighs 43 pounds soaking wet is now at her father’s house so I can clean mine.  I don’t want to but I have to because it would disturb most people and cause them to make judgments.  Posting photos would be embarrassing but there are toys strewn throughout four rooms that I just kick aside and keep on walking.  There are blanket forts in at least two rooms accessorized with clothes that used to be folded. There are several dozen drawings of the dog taped to the walls.  There are piles of textbooks, student files, and mail to be attended to.  There are snack bowls everywhere.  The carpets and wood floors need tending and the bathrooms need cleaning.  Getting the tornado to speech therapy and perhaps getting homework done in the few hours I spend with her at the end of each day after my long workday took precedence over house cleaning.

What really is the point if I clean and then have to do it again the next day?  I just wait a few days until she goes to her dad’s house.  My house is clean Friday through Sunday if I don’t choose to leave and do something more fun than cleaning house. My ex-husband’s house is clean Monday through Thursday.

I am writing now and not cleaning. Writing is an excellent avoidance strategy.

I know others would make judgments because 20 years ago when I was first dating my ex- we often went to his best friend’s house to watch movies.  His friend was married with three sons under five so they did not go out much.  The friend and his wife ran a computer consulting business and owned/maintained several apartment buildings.

I used to make the most awful judgments about his friend’s wife because their house was messy.  I was a single 30-year-old woman sharing a cute 1920s bungalow with a lovely sun porch near FSU with a clean roommate whose only fault was hanging her clients' art in the house.  Much of the art of was very good but she earned her living as a public defender of death row inmates. Some of the art was produced by men who had killed policemen and small children. Others might say look at our new Monet and we could say look at this Ted Bundy over here.  No she did not defend Bundy but many like him – I just can’t remember their names.

Anyway on Saturday nights we would go over to couple’s house so my ex could see his friend and there would be one room just overrun with toys.  I was appalled and wondered if this woman ever tried to clean the house.  How lazy could she be that she could not pick stuff up and put it away?  What was wrong with those kids that they could not clean up after themselves?  And could it have hurt for her to put on some makeup once in a great while?

I am thinking about the ex’s best friend this morning because that friend did a terrible thing on my birthday ten years ago.  One afternoon his wife took the kids to the movies.  They were boys and liked gory horror movies so they saw one.  The husband stayed home and went out in the backyard and blew his head off with a gun.  Every year after that my ex dutifully took me to dinner to celebrate my birthday as he mourned his friend.

The friend’s wife drove along their street after the movie with all three kids in the car. Their house was surrounded by police cars.  I was not privy to many of the details of what happened next but I don’t think they had removed the body before the kids got home.

There were many rumors about why the friend shot himself.  Finances? Criminal acts?  He had been depressed for weeks and had made alarming phone calls which his friends had reported to the suicide hotline.  Not many of the rumors that spread about my ex’s friend were true.  That did not matter.  Others believed what they wanted to believe.

The psychiatrist at Fort Hook who committed murder/suicide was heinous and should be punished to the full extent of the law.  I bolded that so my feelings are made very clear.

However, I am feeling somewhat like a conspiracy theorist by writing the following but something does not smell right. There are reports that the killer wrote blog posts praising suicide bombers that have been posted for six months and were under investigation by the FBI. This makes me suspicious. If they were really posted by this man when they were said to be posted in the past then why was he given access to large groups of military personnel?  Were there comments on those blogs at the time that can time/date stamp them through links to others blog such as what happens on OS?   This information sounds planted to me.  I think he obviously had problems that lead him to kill people. I don't know if believe he was a radical Muslim.  Maybe he was just a severely depressed Muslim.  It worries me that there are those who would seize on that reported information to focus on that aspect of the crime rather than on the suffering of those killed and wounded.  Others will believe what they want to believe without looking further for more conclusive evidence.

How lazy could she be that she could not pick stuff up and put it away?  What was wrong with those kids that they could not clean up after themselves?  And could it have hurt for her to put on some makeup once in a great while?

 

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This going to create a groundswell of hyperbole and speculation, calls for fair trials followed by public hangings and firing squads. I've seen it here on OS already this a.m. from both sides of the political fence.
Madman or Muslim? Or? And? Either? Neither?
We think we know when we feel.
Not so.
This really intriguing writing that is more thoughful than a stream-of-consciousness, but yet...there's a lot going on at your house today, cleaning notwithstanding.
Slow, considered applause.
The information will all come out in the next couple of weeks. I work for the Dept. of Defense with military physicians and mental health workers daily. My experience is that the D.O.D. has gone out of its way to accomodate and embrace and not make judgments to such an extreme that something like yesterday was bound to happen.

It took a civilian woman police officer who was wounded to stop this guy - soldiers on base can't even defend themselves anymore - believe me we were all watching the TV's yesterday at our army medical center knowing it could easily, easily happen here.
I am thinking about this in some ways similar to how you must have felt about your birthday for a while Dorinda. While what happened to your ex's friend isn't about you, memories of that horrible incident gets attached to your birthday and it becomes somehow, something personal about you.

With regard to Major Hasan, I can't imagine listening and seeing what he did all those years in his job. That he was also harassed and called 'camel jockey' in his work, even though he was working among professional, educated people is something that I can relate to: nothing protects us from the ignorance of others, certainly not their advanced educations. I worked with lawyers who harrassed me as a young woman and there is nothing quite like being tragically enmeshed in a negative situation that is connected to everything important about your life. Add to it religious persecution and what he had to know as a psychiatrist, it's unimaginable.

I cannot be sorrier than I am for all of the deaths, but I believe that if we fail to understand what happened to Major Hasan we will fail to protect fully those who work under so much pressure in the military.
Any and all anti-Islamic news is regarded as propaganda by yours truly. Did "Arab Terrorists(tm)" somehow manufacture nanothermite in a cave in Afghanistan and spray it on the interior surfaces of the WTC under the guise of an "asbestos abatement" program? Was the owner of the WTC on 9/11/01 an Arab? Were five Arab secret agents arrested after being witnessed high-fiving one another and videotaping the WTC collapse?

Ft. Hood sounds like a mutiny. I don't believe a single word CNN or Anderson Cooper (A CIA AGENT) has to report. Why do you think they call it programming?
Excellent, excellent post, D.

I can't say what I'm felling any better than what Susanne said. I don't like that the immediate reaction (and reporting) included information of his religion. I sincerely think he just lost it. He was scared. Scared for himself and scared for the lives of the soldiers about to be deployed. Having listened for 6 years to what, I imagine, are atrocities, I think he thought he was "saving" them. But, I'm not a shrink. We overlook the fact that anyone in any profession can have a mental break. Just because he was a psychiatrist, doesn't mean he didn't need one himself.

I am now going to clean my house because I don't even have kids and a guy in overalls just came to the door and appeared appalled.
messy house = creative mind (IMO) althought there IS a line where messy turns into gross and then the creative mind has gone haywire. Don't know which comes first, though.

I'll just leave it at that.
The incident is tragic. No one knows why this happened. War is tragic. This is a man who gave his life to helping soldiers recover form horrendous events. Something snapped. My heart goes out to all people involved with war. The mental health of our soldiers and their families when they return home is an important issue and something we should talk about.
Thought-provoking post, D. I agree with much that has been said here about Dr. Hasan. I so wish he hadn't been Muslim since this will be fuel for the fires of racism and bigotry already rampant in the military and elsewhere.

And I know what it is like to have something awful happen on your birthday. My brother died unexpectedly on mine three years ago.

I also think that cleaning can be a good way of avoiding writing!
NY Times:"Major Hasan also reportedly required counseling at different times in his life, including for a time as a medical student." Maybe a radical muslim, maybe not. Either way, a man with mental health issues.
"Look at our Ted Bundy" cracked me up beyond belief). That's probably the funniest line I've read in ages. More importantly, your clarity of thought and choosing to write what you're thinking (instead of cleaning the house) tells me you are both smart and funny. For that, I'd rate you ten times alone.
I loved this Dorinda, and can so relate. I had a small giggle at the "Fort Hook" slip because I think you've got pirates on the brain. . . With respect to the Fort Hood shooter, I suspect there was some underreaction taking place so it wouldn't appear they were assuming he was a radical, a bit too much political correctness, if you will. It's difficult to pin that sort of thing. What bothers me most is that he was a psychiatrist.

Interesting thoughts, well expressed.