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Douglas Moran
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SEPTEMBER 15, 2009 5:31PM

Sorry: You Just Need to Suffer for a While

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A couple of weeks ago, I had an incredibly painful flare-up of my chronic neck pain.  My local California pain doctor refused to prescribe me meds, and I wrote about my frustrations with that decision, thinking that as soon as I got to my regular pain doctor in Texas, something would be done.

Oh Lord, what a naive boob I was!

I met with my "regular" pain doctor last week (who is different from my GP). He has been my chronic pain physician for 6 or 7 years, and has been a lot of help in treating my pain. But a couple of years ago, we sort of reached the limit of the things he could or was willing to do, and it's been a bit difficult since then.

(One small example: he prescribes Ultram for my pain. For a period of several weeks, because of modifying the dosages, I had both 200mg and 100mg caplets. I found that if I took 200mg at night and 100mg in the morning, that controlled my pain much better than 300mg once a day. This Austin doctor refused to prescribe it to me that way. "That's not the way you're supposed to be taking it." My feeling was, who gives a shit? If it works, and as long as it's not dangerous--300mg is the daily limit--why not?)

Anyway, when I met with my Austin doctor--after my GP had taken mercy onme and prescribed a few Lortabs for my pain--he informed me that he wouldn't have given me additional hydrocodone for my pain, but would have required me take over-the-pain anti-inflammatories, after which he would give me prescription anti-inflammatories, after which ("as a last resort") he would give me additional anti-pain meds.  When I told him that I had been taking 6 or more advil and tylenol a day, he shrugged and told me that chronic pain sufferers frequently have 3-5 "flare-ups," and that only after a 2 week period of pain would my "flare-up" be "genuine" enough for him to do something like prescribe steroids, give me a nerve block, or do something more dangerous or pervasive.

I did ask that he give me Lortab rather than Hydrocodone, as I was taking 2 of the 5/500 tablets, which I felt was too much. The Lortab (7.5/300) works quite well, and doesn't have as much Tylenol in it (I think Vicoprofin would be ideal, but then, I'm not an MD). He agreed, but required me to see him in 5 weeks rather than 4. (Or to put it another way, as my wife says, he punished me.) He feels narcotics are a bad idea, because all they do is "mask the pain."

(Since I suffer from chronic pain--i.e., it never goes completely away--I guess I don't really understand why I shouldn't "mask" the pain on a regular basis. I mean, the pain's always there; I don't think "living with it" is really necessary.)

The end-result is that I'm looking for a new pain doctor, and hope that my California pain doctor (who is giving me a "radio frequency" treatment tomorrow) will fill that need. I certainly don't want a pain doctor who's going to refuse me prescriptions and force me to do whippets/smoke dope/drink lots of alcohol for two weeks before my pain becomes "genuine" enough to treat. Wish me luck.

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And now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to take one of my precious Lortabs.
So how do we incorporate blaming Obama for your pain?

Kidding. Hope all gets well soon.
Doctors are complicit in the war on drugs. They have set themselves up as the sole legitimizers of use of most strong drugs, but they also get burned when they get prosecuted for giving more than the 'right' amount of prescriptions to patients.

In a more relaxed and sensible world, doctors would treat pain so as to prevent it and if some abuse by patients happened, so fucking what? That is the patients problem, not the doctor's or society's.

Instead we live in a world where every dumb asshole US Attorney thinks it is their business to police your pain medication.

This is a big part of your problem, in my opinion.
I am so sorry this is happening to you. I have chronic neck problems and my job worsens it. I lift heavy things most of the day and I talked to my Dr about this and yes I have to see her every three months ( thanks to insurance I am good with this) and I try to take as few as I need. BUT I know if I don't take one at night before bed with a muscle relaxer and sometimes one in the middle of the night I am going to wake with an incredible headache. I worry enough that it makes me uncomfortable that I need them and that what if she takes them away from me. It's scary and I know people who abuse Vicodin and they take like 10 ,12 pills a day! I would die if I did that and I hate that they make me tired and if I didn't need them I wouldn't take them and there we are that freakin' circle again! I hope your Dr takes what you say to heart and realizes 2 or 3 pills a day for pain will not make you an addict. At least I hope not!
Having seen someone with chronic pain get addicted to the relief perscriptions...I can say they are on your side, not agin' ya.

The problem is that you get adjusted quickly to the relief and the pain bleeds through and your dose increases, like a frog in an increasing pot of water. Before you know it, you are at a limit on pain relief on a regular daily basis.

Then you have a flare up. And there is nothing to do for you. Chronic pain is forever and they are managing a plan for a lifetime and you are living it day to day.

Maybe a look towards some other relief methods like massage, hot tubs, yoga(yes, I said it), or meditation.

I have had two lower back surgeries and have chronic pancreatitis. I could be high 24/7 even with a pain management person managing me. I hate pills and addiction, though, and so I have been managed by my regular doctor for 10 years.

I think you may need some counseling, as the management of long term pain is also a mental health issue in terms of stress management. Pain=stress.

Good luck with it.
Thanks, E; I really, really appreciate hearing other perspectives.
I wish there were a good answer to chronic pain. I think it can make people crazy, irrational, and angry. Sometimes all at once.

But being high all the time is not a good answer either, as your quality of life becomes nil in the face of that. If all you can do is buzz, why bother. That isn't life.

So I went with some body centered holistic shit. And it worked. The hot tub jets can work wonders, and just getting warm and quiet for half an hour has benefits all its own.

I wish I had a good answer.
Elizabeth: For whatever reasons, opiates don't have a particularly strong "euphoric" effect on me. When I'm in pain, my body seems to metabolize the opiate rather quickly, for whatever reason, and I very, very rarely get buzzed. (Some opiates bypass the whole "get buzzed" process and simply put me to sleep. Percoset, for example.)

I'm willing to try pretty much anything, honestly. Biofeedback? Bring it on. Acupuncture? I'm there! Yoga? Sure, why not. I'll even drink that hideous wheat-grass juice if it might help.
What yoga can do for chronic neck pain is to re-establish a normal range of motion. Usually, chronic pain makes people tense the offending area and hold it still because it hurts less when it is not in motion. The stiffening makes the muscles hurt and that makes the area hurt and the stiffness gets persistent.

I bet you don't move your neck much.

That would mean that your ability to adjust your neck position to put less pressure on the nerves is impinged.

SO one possible solution is yoga with the specific plan to introduce a normal range of motion to your body through your neck and shoulders, or as normal as the injury will allow.

you will need to find a qualified yoga therapist, not just a local yoga teacher. And they will be able to help.

That and a hot tub where you can get some jets on your neck. the heat and the gentle water massage can work wonders.
Gus: my tension increase when I read about the TeaBaggers is being carried in my neck, increasing my pain! If Obama wasn't President, it wouldn't be happening, so it's all his fault!

How was that? Good?

E: Actually, I've worked closely with my message therapist/TCM person (she's one person), and work very hard to do things like: make sure my shoulders aren't riding up; move my head around regularly; change my sitting positions regularly (and get up regularly to boot); modify my office ergonomics so less strain is put on my neck; etc. So I'm pretty good in the "move your neck" area. (At the end of the day I spend some time laying flat on my back with a pillow under my neck, and then I make sure I roll my head from side to side.)

I don't have immediate access to a hot-tub, but I do have a shower message that I use regularly on the afflicted area.

You're probably beginning to see why my feeling is, "Yo, if I ask for drugs, turn 'em over!" It's not like I'm not trying other stuff here, ya know?