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JANUARY 18, 2010 9:04AM

Why do we care what the Surgeon General weighs?

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As soon as President Obama announced Dr. Regina Benjamin as his pick for surgeon general last July she came under fire for—can you believe it?—her weight!

Dr Benjamin’s figure has received more scrutiny and bashing from bloggers and commentators than her exemplary qualifications and achievements.

Last Monday, on Dr. Benjamin’s swearing-in date, she gave an interview to Good Morning America, in which she honestly responded to the comments about her figure. “Most women want to be attractive,” she said. “You don’t want to see negative things, people calling you names. So it was very hurtful.” Such straightforwardness and openness is refreshing.

I have two things I have to say about this:

First: Where are our manners?

Aren’t we the nation of political correctness? I don’t support euphemisms and practices that empty language of all meaning, but there’s something to be said for good manners: Language is the expression of thought, and suppressing language that might offend people not only spares these people’s feelings, but hinders the social acceptance of what’s ultimately bad manners.

It seems obesity is one of the final frontiers of out-in-the-open social marginalization and stigmatization--obesity bias is still socially acceptable and regularly expressed without any shame.

Strange that in a nation in which the majority of the population is overweight—and one in three adults is obese—where talking about a person’s color, ethnic background or religion can get you into major trouble, criticizing body fat is considered just fine.

And second: What does weight have to do with being a good surgeon general?

Our celebrity-obsessed culture confuses us into thinking that one’s appearance and personal story are major qualifications for any job.

Nothing can be further from the truth, certainly in most professional roles, and especially in science- based disciplines.

The Surgeon General is the leading spokesperson on matters of public health in the federal government. Quoting from the Office of the Surgeon General’s website, “The Surgeon General serves as America's chief health educator by providing Americans the best scientific information available on how to improve their health and reduce the risk of illness and injury.”

The key words here are “best scientific information.” The Surgeon General is a physician. She practices a discipline in which evidence and scientific inquiry are the main tools. A doctor’s personal opinion about most subjects hardly matters. When you consult a doctor what you’re supposed to get is what medicine knows about your condition, and hopefully, a treatment plan that has been proven to work. Doctors aren’t supposed to draw from their anecdotal personal experience or gut feeling when they’re on the job; they should be looking at evidence, referencing clinical studies and applying the gathered experience of many other trained professionals.

That’s why a male physician can be an excellent obstetrician, a pediatrician needn’t be a parent, and psychiatrists don’t need first-hand experience with overcoming mental illness. You follow a doctor’s advice (and the guidance of any other expert) because he knows his stuff and has sound clinical judgment, not because he’s a role model.

The Surgeon General is the country’s head doctor, not a health celebrity. She’s a professional, dispensing advice based on evidence, science and the consensus of peers in order to promote our national health.

Criticism that Dr. Benjamin might have a credibility problem when talking about obesity and can’t lead a national discussion on the subject is as absurd as insisting that a male physician couldn’t guide the delivery of a baby.

A weight-loss guru, touting a miracle diet that’s a quick cure-all for obesity, has a credibility problem if he’s overweight. (Actually, he’d have a credibility problem even if he’s skinny, because we should all know better and question whether such a fix could actually work.)

Prevention and public health are at the top of Dr. Benjamin’s to-do list and obesity is the number one public health issue facing America right now. Regardless of the Surgeon General’s personal experience with weight, her office would be looking at the same studies referenced by physicians and nutrition experts all around the world.

The data shows that obesity is multifactorial, isn’t easy to solve, isn’t a failure of personal will-power, and that telling people to lose weight—whether this comes from a thin or a fat person—is hardly an effective enough solution to this complex problem.

One of the most important roles of the Surgeon General is to influence public policies. In the case of obesity and the very sorry state of our country’s eating habits, a major effort is needed in order to change our obesogenic environment so that one won’t need such enormous self-control in order to be fit and thin.

I have no idea why we’re looking so hard for role models, and why we seem to expect no less than perfection from public figures.

Competency, wisdom and honesty from real people seem like plenty to me; and we’re fortunate that there’s so much more to admire in our new Surgeon General.

Most people can’t name many—or any—previous Surgeons General, have no idea what they did, and certainly don’t know their size. I hope Dr. Benjamin attracts more public attention than her recent predecessors did, and when she speaks it's the message--not the messenger--we should be paying most attention to.

I’m looking forward to a heated discussion on this topic.

Dr. Ayala

 

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Compelling common sense. However, I wonder if it isn't normal to see the surgeon general as a role model. Americans wouldn't tolerate a surgeon general who smoked, even just occasionally.
@Steve Klingaman

The smoking analogy isn’t easy to deflect. Yes, I’d be appalled to see the Surgeon General smoke in public--that would send the wrong message. The medical community’s clear message to smokers is to quit—as hard as it may be.

On the other hand, with overweight, the message is to prevent obesity by developing good habits, but if that didn’t happen, and you do have extra weight, the advice isn’t really to do whatever is takes to bring you down to a size 4. Losing 10 percent of the extra weight, preventing further weight gain, eating well and keeping fit is much more realistic, and really matters to your health.

Therefore I don’t see a doctor with some extra weight as not practicing what she preaches.
In politics...and every appointment a politician makes involves politics...you get this kind of shit.

She looks like she can handle herself...so let her.

In a political context, just as it is right and reasonable for you to question why people would do something like this...

...it is right and reasonable for them to do it.

One would think we could be a more polite society than this shows us to be...but others would think such a notion is naive in the extreme.
Dr. Ayala,
Thank you for such a thoughtful and needed post. I’ve been wondering the same things. Sadly such criticism is not only ill mannered but often rooted in values that are created for their own times. A brief look at history as portrayed in the art world, for instance, would quickly reveal that body types thought normal today were far from such not so long ago.

I really appreciate the balance and grasp of the necessary in your piece.

“Competency, wisdom and honesty from real people seem like plenty to me”

They do to me as well. They are the reasons I always look forward to your articles so much.

Rated and appreciated.
The symbolism is not important for me, either, but it is unavoidable. Book her as a guest on Oprah (a great place for the Surgeon General to be) and see where the conversation goes. On the other hand, were a surgeon general to speak about his or her own plan to lose 10 percent of extra weight, that might be a very good thing.
she really isn't that big, people have to understand that as we get older we gain a little weight naturally, doesn't mean you're unhealthy.
I love this post and wrote something similar way back when she was first nominated. As a recovering anorexic/bulimic I am relieved to see a female surgeon general who is not a size 4 - she is REAL and being real comes in all kinds of shapes and sizes.

@Steve - are we sure that we haven't had a surgeon general who smoked? or drank too much? I think we very well could have
I agree with Henry Dean. Basically we're all different, one person's thin is another's fat. There isn't a 'one size fits all' for physical stature that equals health. Plus, our bodies evolve in all sorts of crazy ways throughout our lives. True Health Lives Under the Skin, no one can see it. I have an aunt who lived to be 98 years old, the doctor told her she had the bones of a 40 year old, who knew??
Thank you for your piece Dr.
I have been saying for years that all too often we expect our politicians to be far better than ourselves. I have always found that to be unrealistic. We all have bad habits. For some it is over eating, for some smoking, for some it is a sexual addiction and for others a drinking problem. The list could go on and on.
The truth is that our new surgeon general may be perfectly healthy just the way she is. To assume that everyone is physically capable of being thin is ludicrous. I have known women in my life who worked out five times or more a week, eaten well and yet, if you saw them waling down the street you might assume that they were over weight. When in truth, it is simply the way that they are built and short of starvation, they will never look like Halle Berry or Julia Roberts.
It pains me to see so many seemingly intelligent people who base their opinions on assumption and or preconceived notions about any subject.
I am more opposed to her background than her weight. She was a horrible choice for this position. I think it is improper to lump obesity as a prejudice problem on the same grade as race, religion or sexual orientation. I don't know her and she is probably a great human. But she is not an expert at health. I want a expert on health and one who lives a healthy life herself. The facts are the facts-overweight people have more health problems and are therefore less healthy. She has a personal challenge with weight it is obvious and bless her . I would not support a heavy drinker, or a smoker either. It has nothing to do with her being a woman. If so fat man wanted the job I would not agree either. Yes, she may certainly have book knowledge on a variety of health concerns and issues but she evidently does not really believe in them . One must practice what they preach. I am not going to take advice about health from an overweight person. Don't turn this into a woman's issue or an example of prejudice.
Who is paying for her health care insurance?

Could she get Health Insurance at her age, weight and possible pre-existing conditions, from Humana or another carrier?

They did issue her a nice uniform, a la William Rehnquist.
Who is paying for her health care insurance?

Could she get Health Insurance at her age, weight and possible pre-existing conditions, from Humana or another carrier?

They did issue her a nice uniform, a la William Rehnquist.
dr. spudman...are you a doctor? I guess I'm not clicking on your blog to find out...but you do seem to be prejudiced on unscientific grounds. There's more reason to believe that thin people who don't watch their health other than their weight (ie that eat unhealthy foods, don't exercise....etc) are healthier...in fact, if weight is the ONLY criteria by which you judge health you're in serious trouble.

Just as a visual example, Siskel and Eibert? Which one is still living? And since he lost weight has his health improved or gone downhill?

In fact, that situation is not so unusual, scientifically.

We have such a mafia of prejudice in this country against weight. (Or maybe it's primarily a mafia in favor of self-hate and/or hatred of the underclass people who usually are overweight). If anything you could look at health as a grid where many factors including weight play a role. But to simplify it down to only looking at weight without looking at a single other factor including heredity, blood pressure, etc. , as you are doing in this situation, you have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not a doctor but one of my best friends is a doctor, and I've read some of the studies for myself. Dr. Ayla is speaking accurately. The medical literature does not support weight as the ONLY or even the most important criteria for how healthy any human being is. If you want to make that argument, you're going against medical literature and instead buying into the corporate weightloss industry claims (and by the way what a huge financial interest that is in this country).

Look for yourself at the studies and who pays for them and what they really say about human health. Just thought you should know that though a lot of people make the same claims, they're about as scientifically valid as the idea a couple of centuries ago that witches should be burned because they killed babies or made crops die. And as a matter of fact, I do think that she's getting this criticism for being a woman. There, I've said it.

Ug.
Well written, well thought out, and I couldn't agree with you more. Besides, she looks pretty fit to me, for what that's worth!
Let me try this hypothetical. It's about perception. Oh, like you Dr. Ayala, I will expect "the heated discussion" to follow and say it's not related but hear me out. If you had to take advice on dental health from one of two twin dentists. Either male or female hypothetically. One has beautiful, perfect teeth and the other has unattractive teeth. Other than their teeth, they are identical. You hear that the one with the unattractive teeth has gone to a better school and had higher grades. That's all you know. How many would choose the dentist with the unattractive teeth for advice on dental health?

Today, a huge part of physical health is related to weight. We don't want to face it, but it is. I worked as the Regional Director of The American Heart Association for many years in this part of our country and I can tell you that the statistics of being overweight or obese is related to many diseases. There's a lot of reverse bias toward anyone who dares bring up the subject of weight. I am working on a childhood obesity initiative and let me tell you, I thought taking on bullying in the schools was controversial.

I have to agree to an extent with Spud.
Thank You, Dr. Ayala.
When I saw that you were a physician, I was concerned that you would write an article opposed to our having a plump surgeon general. I was thrilled that you wrote in support of her.
Dr. Benjamin is not only a very lovely woman, but appears to be in glowing health as well. As the mother of a daughter I would MUCH rather see Dr. Benjamin held up as a role model than a woman who looks pinch-faced and stressed out from trying to maintain an unnaturally low weight.
I love the term you used: "obesogenic culture."
Our high-tech, low-activity lifestyle, combined with easy access to abundant food, almost demands that we in the U.S. develop eating disorders in order to remain thin - or (god forbid) learn to accept a higher body weight for ourselves.
Thank You for your post Dr. Ayala. You seem to be more than just a doctor. You seem to be a healer as well.
Kind of Blue--here's another analogy: you go to a dentist, and one dentist has dentures, the other has their natural teeth--a little yellow, and a little crooked, yet they are real human teeth.

which dentist do you prefer?

Its seems like more and more Americans prefer dentures to teeth--(or implants or the other more fashionable examples of not real teeth) and yet, I like the dentist who knows what its like to get a cavity, and whose teeth don't gleam so hard they make my eyes water.

To me a "real" dentist has real teeth. And those who want to judge this doctor purely on the visual rather than on any real health measures (let alone depth of knowledge in her field) seem to be similarly misguided.

just sayin'.
If those making negative comments know Dr. Benjamin's background, then they are judging her on one criterion, her appearance. That seems at least shallow to me. If they do know her background, and are making the same judgment, then the same rule still applies.

It like saying Dr. Hawking knows nothing about physics, because he is confined to a wheelchair. I kind of think it's important to look at the whole person, something some seem unwilling to do.
Thank you for this enlightened post.

I welcome "Competency, wisdom and honesty from real people" any day over BMI and celebrity appeal. Unfortunately, however, all this scrutiny over Dr Benjamin's weight is promoting the young people, the wrong message once again: that people are valued more for their looks and attitude than their knowledge and intelligence. In a country where self esteem is so closely confused with self image, I find this a fresh and welcome step forward. We need role models who are bright, skilled, open-minded and comfortable in her own skin.

Furthermore, not only she is recipient of MacArthur Genius Award, but also she has first hand experience with many of the diseases currently suffered by Americans.
Rated
@ Steve Klingman: I hope Dr Benjamin will be seen as a role model - I hope America will grow up and learn to shift its misplaced focus.
I said in my previous comment that I was more concerned about her background than her health. It has been reported that she received $10,000 to serve on the Burger King advisory board and $20,000 to serve on the ConAgra-advisory board. She has a long list of quite impressive accomplishments in her life of which I cheer her. She is an attractive woman, highly accomplished a great humanitarian and appears to be a person who genuinely loves humanity. I still think her an improper choice because there were better alternatives. That is my opinion.
Your first question where are our manners ? It is not a matter of manners It is a matter of description, she is obese. You call an ace an ace and a spade a spade. It has nothing to do with manners. I see nothing wrong with that and, note I did not use the word fat, that might be politically incorrect. Oh and do not bring up past surgeon generals, the over weight crisis is upon us now, not when past surgeon generals were appointed. So why should we have someone who looks like a beached whale as surgeon general at this time and point. I do not care what their qualifications are. And hell if everyone were going around comparing themselves to Hollywood stars, everyone in the country would be slim and trim as hell. So do not bring up the hollywood star myth.
And last but not least it seems she is not following what science is based on as you mentioned Evidence and Scientific Inquiry. If she did this she would know her self that being over weight is harmful to her. And thus she should do something to remedy this.
In short I think the surgeon general shoud be purple and about 5'7", weigh 135 lbs, and the qualifications to be a good surgeon general.
Yes appearance does count ! Otherwise American women are going to continue to be the fat sloppy pigs that the majority have turned out to be.

Burgess Dillard
To some extent, yes. I heard one doctor say a french fry is as dangerous as a cigarette. Not that C. Everette Koop was an olympic athlete either. Doctors are role models, and should stay in shape. But I don't think its that big of a deal. I don't think we should look to famous people as role models anyway. You parents should be your main source of judgement growing up. Not athletes, musicians, politicians, etc. It sounds like much ado about nothing.
I think she's a great choice. xox
As I read this the first thing that came to mind was that these criticisms were likely fueled by the fact that she's a woman. For whatever reason, when men age and begin to spread out or thicken around the middle, they are seen as robust and healthy, but if a woman has a curvaceous shape, she's fat.

Those are my thoughts.
Solid argument. Making her weight an issue is malicious, rediculous, idiotic, vulgar and sooooooooooooo lame. It is this low life ignorant PC crap.

Great issue, well done, rated.
To me, her weight is not an issue. She does not appear to be that overweight to me, and I've always been right around the recommended weight so I don't think my bias runs to the other side of the scale. Notice perception counts for a lot. This has not become the burning issue the folks at FOX and elsewhere, who have tried to hamstring every one of Obama's appointments, want to make it out to be. That may be because most Americans share her (I'm estimating here) 20 to 30 pound fight. I'm not sure whether that's a good thing, but it does not appear to be the issue some wish it would become. Also, I would argue that most Americans are not as plugged in to celebrity culture as all that, and that for most weight is primarily a health issue whether the Surgeon General is involved or not. Maybe celebrities actually play a vicarious fantasy role, where we can all be 'thin' by living through their lives. In that sense we keep putting off living better and gnaw away at ourselves and our 'weakness.' Self-flagellation is very Christian. Rated.
Perverse that we are such a "fattist" society when, as you say, so many of us are overweight. I think she is being examined more intensely because she is a woman. My opinion. I think people will expect her to be healthy but she looks healthy to me.
I agreed with some of the other posters that part of this is leveraged because she is a woman. C. Everett Koop was a surgeon in Philadelphia, I have seen him in person and he does not appear to be an avid exercise fan. Yet he is quite an inspiring and knowledgeable doctor/surgeon. I don't remember anyone ever questioning his physical appearance. R
The SG is overweight, but is she unhealthy? In this country there is fat unhealthy and fat unfashionable. Hollywood's obsession with body image is producing just as unhealthy eating and lifestyle behaviors to look fashionable thin as the those who are overweight.

It is understandable because we have become a nation of exaggeration of every fear and potential threat including health. Instead of looking at life as a balancing act of moderation, we seem to pick certain behaviors and demonize them and exaggerate their risks to the overall health of the individuals and the society.

Yes, this nation could stand to loose a couple of billion pounds, but it will not reduce the cost of healthcare. Health care is increasing for our nation because we are all getting older and living longer. Since most of the lifestyle related diseases effect those in their 70s and above the cost of healthcare will continue to increase because a larger percentage of the population is older than previous ones. Plus we have this insane idea we can live forever. Sorry something is going to kill you. I wonder how different the mortality rate for cancer and heart disease (the two major killers) would look if we did not count those who die within the normal range of mortality. I think it would put the real risk of lifestyle in perspective.

So the AG is overweight, if she is healthy and productive then God bless and live long and prosper. And enough of this roll model BS, everyone is responsible for their own fat ass.
Why do people automatically assume that because a person is overweight, they are not healthy? Some people are just larger than others. She might eat well and exercise but is genetically destined to be a larger person. Likewise, being a size 2 does not guarantee that a person is fit and healthy and should not give them automatic role model status. Just my two pounds', er, two cents' worth. :)
It is always poor manners to point out that someone is overweight in public, I am with you there... BUT I would like to hear what the SG has to say about her own personal choices. Does she think about her own BMI? Des she feel that it is a true reflection of her weight/health?

If she has a hard time exercising, or choosing healthy foods, perhaps she could share that with the public. I would respect hearing that it's tough to always make the right decisions... Obama admitted it was tough giving up smoking!

Our family doctor is the first to admit that she has to watch her blood pressure, that she has needed anti anxiety meds (while in med school) and struggles with her weight. It's nice to know she is human and understands...
I could not agree with you more. No one would have said a word about her fitness had she been male. No one. Blog whore alert: here's what I wrote about it earlier: http://open.salon.com/blog/blue_in_tx/2009/09/22/bill_maher_can_kiss_my_fat_ass
R.
Dear readers, thank you for your insightful comments and support. I appreciate it! Keep them coming!

@Will Azeperak, I laughed at your dentist comment, but there’s a lot of truth to it.

I did a rotation in plastic surgery as a medical student. One of the head surgeons used to joke and say his big nose and relative unattractiveness serve as a closing argument for patients who can’t make up their mind. He’d point at himself and say: “See the results of neglect!”

He happened to be one of the best surgeons in the department, and was very much sought after.
Regarding the comment about dentists with good and bad teeth...

New Orleans sees a lot of various medical conventions. These are your everyday doctors from all over the country, not the surgeon general. By my anecdotal observation, a high percentage of opthamologists wear Coke-bottle glasses, a high percentage of neurologists have a gimpy arm or leg, and a high percentage of cardiologists are fat smokers.
Health is a complicated matter, having much to do with nature and nurture. However, manners are not very complicated and yet seem very much missing in society today. Too many people feel empowered to make nasty, snide or demeaning comments about their fellow man just because the internet has foisted upon us the idea of anonimity. Now you dont have to be an expert in anything to play one here.
You, Dr Ayala have hit the nail on the head. Competency, wisdom and honesty are of much greater value than the opinions of the easily hidden.
@Leeandra

Many times people choose to devote their professional life to solve a problem they or a family member have first- hand experience with, so the ophthalmologists with glasses and neurologists with a neurologic disorder seem fine to me.

A doctor smoking in public isn’t—that is a very confusing message to the public.