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SEPTEMBER 24, 2008 2:39PM

Whose version of Christianity wins?

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This post was inspired by this article in my local paper this morning and the many recent and excellent posts on OS on Atheism in politics. Something has been bugging me about the this for a long time, because it seems to me that the people who advocate and insist that this country is a Christian country are overlooking a very important issue. History has taught us that once church and state merge, only one narrow, state-sponsored interpretation of the Correct Religion is allowed. In other words, the state tells churches how to run their business.

 

That better be the state sponsored bible version there, missy 

 

Now we know there is a certain segment of the population that think the separation of church and state is for sissies and the Founding Fathers didn’t really mean it, anyway. Yeah, I know, I know. But given the number of people who identify as Christian, and think the Founding Fathers were this monolithic Christian group, let’s just say the separation of church and state isn’t exactly a given.

 

So let’s say that the Christians have their way and turn this country into the Christian Theocracy, the next question to ask is who’s version of Christianity wins? Would it be the branch that sees Jesus as a radical reformer who would be in favor of healing the sick and feeding the poor? Or would be the Christians of the suburban and rural white churches who win? The Christianity of “He who is without sin…” or the Christianity of  Fred Phelps who says “God hates fags”? OS’s Real Live Preacher or Sarah Palin?

 

The state approves 

 

I have to wonder if the people who think we need more religion in public life have thought this one through. Do they not get that once religion and government are merged, their own version of Christianity might not be the one that “wins”? And if their own version isn’t the winner then their own church will be dictated to and told how to worship? “Sorry dudes, that’s the wrong hymn book, the state only recognizes this one…”

 

Talk about your dual-edged sword.

 

State sponsored religion will turn the church upside down 

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Articulated exactly what I've been thinking. Thank you.
Actually this is exactly what the Founders were thinking when they made for the separation of church and state. For one, most of them had a rather broad interpretation of Christianity. Think the Unitarians today and you'll be closer to what they believed than any Jesus-centric dogma.
Nice post, I think you said what I've been trying to say to family members for awhile.
Most of our founding fathers were deists, by the way, meaning that they did believe in God, but didn't really think he had anything to do with what happened here on earth. Perhaps our history books could address that issue and then we wouldn't have to deal with it anymore!
Most of our founding fathers were deists, by the way, meaning that they did believe in God, but didn't really think he had anything to do with what happened here on earth. Perhaps our history books could address that issue and then we wouldn't have to deal with it anymore!

Can you imagine the shit storm that would cause? The Palins of the world would be throwing fits left and right. It would be fun to watch, though. (evil grin)

Actually this is exactly what the Founders were thinking when they made for the separation of church and state

I am aware of this, but we seem to be in a minority, Jane. I've tried to make this point many times to various members of the "this is a CHRISTIAN nation" cabal, their counterpoint is that there is only one interpetation of the Bible that is "right", and of course it is thiers. shudder
I think the most telling consideration here is that while many of the founding fathers were religious, some of them deeply so, they went out of their way to create a secular state. They had examples in Europe of the mischief that mixing church and state creates, and for them, you remember, these examples were recent history.
Great post, Dragonfly...check out this from my backlog...

http://open.salon.com/content.php?cid=3897
SEPARATE! As someone who is not Christian and doesn't advocate any religion it is a consistent annoyance to me that I have to explain to people that we are NOT a theocracy and the amendment stating "Freedom of Religion" also means "Freedom from Religion"