APRIL 15, 2010 12:01AM

Happy-Happy OS Fun Time; Cute Kittens And Sad Eyed Clowns

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I've left the same comment  ab0ut 20 times this evening on someone's blog. The person keeps deleting it, so I decided to go ahead and post it here so I'll  get a chance to say my two cents. I do  get that we all have the right to delete whatever we feel like from our blogs. It seems to me though that  if we delete every comment which isn't gushing, fulsome validation of our views, we're falling into the trap of being worshippers of the echo chamber, of posting solely for the predictable reward of an endless repetition of fawning, treacly praise, whether that praise is  deserved or not.

Anyway, below is the comment in question. It's on this blog.  For the record, there have been numerous other comments deleted by this blogger  tonight, by several different people. You'd think if he had any balls, he'd be able to deal with a little criticism, but testicular fortitude doesn't seem to be his strong point.

 

Hello Thoth. We haven't interacted for a while, so maybe you don't remember me. I remember you though. About a year ago you did a post titled "Difference Between Male and Female Infidelity." I, along with numerous other people, took you to task for the sweeping generalizations about gender in the post, and for some of the charming little snippets you'd written there such as:

"If you cheated on your man a long time ago but you managed to stay together, know this. If you ever catch him staring at you, he sees cum all over your face. Smile."

Smile indeed. The odd thing is that, though the post is still there, you seem to have gone through the thread and deleted a lot of the comments, including the ones I left. It's almost as if you were cleaning up a crime scene after the fact. I do remember that evening that, after the exchange of commentary on the post, you made it a point to follow several of the women OSers who you were displeased with to their blogs and leave shitty little comments; it was quite stalkerish really. Here's the one you left on my blog:

O my God,
I really did not think that you were such a bad writer.
You are just an idiot.
Thoth
APRIL 06, 2009 12:40 AM

To which I of course replied:

Why hello! It's the funny smirking cum-on-his-face man! How are you doing today you hilarious little narcissist?
Drew-Silla
APRIL 06, 2009 12:51 AM

Is any of this ringing a bell?

Well, anyway, I just wanted to say congratulations on rehabilitating yourself since those days, or more accurately, on fooling quite a few people into thinking you're something other than a misogynistic, creepy little fuckhead.

Oh, and "beautiful post, rated." Saying something like that is much easier than actually reading a post isn't it? How very supportive you must seem to a certain type of gullible OSer, the ones who don't notice that the majority of your comments are cardboard, cookie-cutter pablum.

 

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Meow.

Trouble follows you like a dog in heat ;)
It's the burden I must bear Natalie. And may I add, your avatar is looking even more lovely than mine;-)
Hi Stellaa. It's definitely not just you. The problem seems to be that dear Thoth is a giant wuss.
Hey...can't speak to this specifically..but I have tried to comment on like four other posts by various writers and nothing stuck.
FRUSTRATING!!!
Excellent post, very moving. Rated.
I'm reading Memory for Forgetfulness. You should too.
You may Stellaa. It's in the public domain now:P
Since this seems to be the venue for it, here's a comment I left on what's-his-name's post which he immediately deleted:

"I've read this post 3 times now and still have no idea what the fuck you are talking about."
Natalie, where can I read that?
The latest comment which Thoth will delete from his post:

"Cussing? I didn't cuss once in my comment Thoth, except for where I called you a misogynistic, creepy little fuckhead. I've seen you use far fouler language yourself, so your sudden onset of delicacy leaves me puzzled."


And JD, Natalie's a known subversive, so you'll have to search in the alternative press for that one. It's written by an Arab about the invasion of Lebanon by the Israelis in '82 and is thus obviously suspect.
JD it should be in your local library; that's where I found this one. It's one of the best books I've read.
There's NOTHING worse than an Australian suberversive. I think it comes from the convict ancestry.
On the one hand, OS has been having some issues with the ability of people to post comments lately. The IT boys have to get out their plumbing tools.

On the other hand, Thoth proves that there are bad neighborhoods in OSland as well. That guy belongs with the spamsters harping their Nikes.
Kali's comment is brilliant. Rated.

Nan's, rated twice, once for economy; the other time - I've gotta go.

Thanks, Drew, never a big fan of deleting when it curbs discussion, or its brother censorship, except when it comes to children.

I can't help feeling what we're dealing with is fear. Like there's an election looming, or something.
Lefty, thanks for reading. There are indeed some bad neighborhoods in OSland; I wish spammers were the worst of it.

And Kim, I'd thank you as well, but you're as bad a down-under subversive as that Natalie woman:P
I leave to eat a pb sandwich and what do I find upon my return? Wholesale slaughter of my character in an attempt to undermine my...something. And now poor Mr Gamble is being victimised as well!
Exactly Stellaa. We can't expect any better from the nation that gave us Yahoo Serious:P

And Natalie, did you have any jelly on that sandwich? It's deLISHous!
Blergh. You know I don't do that.
Be nice Drew. The Diggers are among our stoutest friends, even at times when they know we're being less than ideal allies. If they don't want jelly on their sammadges, who are we to judge them?
Czar, baby, sweetheart, I called you a fucktard because I happen to think you are one. Please note though that I'm not deleting your comment. Do you see where I'm going with this?
Stellaa, as far as I'm aware that s pretty standard behaviour for Sydney men under 40 :P
I'll try and stay on your good side. Although that's not always the fun route.
Damn Stellaa, you're right. I just looked, and not only is my recent comment gone, but the last 7 or 8 preceding it, including a couple by Thoth himself, are VAPORIZED! The man's a comment-deleting machine and no mistake.
Token Tarheel; thanks for getting it.

And Jay, you know there's never any fun to be had by being good. PM me later if you wanna get a little icky;-)
I just came back, and it isn't looking good.

Comments have been trimmed down and around Drew, leaving her like a lone loon on a rock.

I'm goin, back. It's not gonna be pretty, but there's bits of nan out there that need to be brung back.

If'n I don't catch y'all agin ... whoa I'm an Ozzie ! WTF ?
I'm f'n goin' back packin' and blazin' - We - no, that's not right either.

Chaps, ladies - I must leave you now. I may be a little while ...
Fare thee well then Kim! But please, don't go quietly into that good night. Leave a comment which, e'en though it may be deleted, will ring through the halls of OS as a resounding indictment of comment deleters and other pussies. And copy it of course, to be pasted again later when said pussies can't delete it 'til they wake up. Pfffft.
I got in long enough to launch a grenade into what I thought was the right bunker - it's all gone now - just smoke, children crying ...

' policemen handing in their badges,' - I can't go back - not for awhile, but I will.

These people need help. Now.

I lasted full three minutes. It's as if I was never there.

I don't need to paste or copy - it's all right here, waiting ...
Drew, I have to say I enjoyed his current post.

I just wanted to come clean, I do like to be clean.

Anyway, I don't know what happened in the past.

What does one do when one is stuck in the middle?
No, run, Natalie, run!!!
Dawn watch ... a little smoke ... few of ours shuffling through the rubble - damn i bet they'd like a coffee now ... Smith ? You wanna take those guys a coffee ? Smith ? ... Smith ? !

I hate war. I hate having to write to the next's. What am I gonna say ?
Nan went out, drew went out, stellaa ... our best ( choke ) went out, and ( mffg ... ) did what they could - they're gone. Maybe. Maybe they're just sleeping ... yeah, that's what I'll write ...

Like they never even went.

Asshole stuck drew's head on a stick and left it for his vultures to pick at.

Doesn't seem to understand, doesn't get the reason we don't seem to like misogynistic fucked up scientological experiments involving little girls being sworn around or women treated like shit the way he seems to like it - adolescent rants and subtle subjugation - doesn't seem to grasp the finesse involved between discussion and abuse - between patronising and ridicule. Between an american and an embarrassment.

Sun's higher. Anzus holds. We gonna win - hell or high water.
This fool will eat his own. Never thought I could hate, this bad.

War does suck, when the enemy won't engage. What kind of coward won't engage ?
Hides behind " personal attacks " - you never seen such a level, civil bunch of correspondence - all neat and respectful, just asking for a little clarification, is all, about the difference between what he claims to stand for, and what he says, what he is. The hypocrisy.
the shame on every soul who rates his rant, unknowing or otherwise.
All of us can read. It's what we're doing here.

I'm sick. My C.O.'s standing in.

Been a long night.

We'll prevail. This rat's got a tail a mile long. Stand on it is all.
Seems every trace of stellaa's been removed now. What's actually going on here ?
bark barf. here is a diner nearby that is respectfully called`Puke & Whine.
The nice home cooking locals at the diner are always a wonder to visit. You are never real sure if you could have had a date later after the great waitress gets off from serving deviled scrambled eggs with morel mushrooms.
Morels can be a Spring Purger.
I'll barf if I chew buttered morels.
The Place to eat is called Park & Dine.
The dinner is great for bad-sex education.
`
I was deleted there earlier. What a nasty response.
My comment was deleted and What A Retort Nasty!
I got the deleted-commented that was deleted saved.
I am still bewoldered. The response I received was ?!
I never received such a unkind nasty retort. No Never.
I saying` a Western Maryland town named, Hancock?
That's where Ya can get great home cooked Potatoes!

I was cranky. I never read deleter people. They nasty.
People know I respect some Posters who? Stellaa etc.,
She's a delicious cook and considerate. Nourishment.
There was a New Post about 'kitchen maid goes Nymph.
I may try to get a morning sputtering if I read a Woman.
I just realized woman is one woman. Women is 2- Nymph.
I was told that by one woman in Sherardstown, W.V. True.
If I get deleted I giggle with a Irate Irk thunderclap Blaster.
I don't get 'blasted' and nasty, but I do sense Foul Bastard.
I am respectful, but like You, and for good reason ... Fun?
I am not saying `Folk should Bang Trash Cans. Toss over?
Do backflips. Summersaults. Roll up the grass geese hills?
I say`Be nice. Learn. Let Nasty Learn. Pelt with duck crap?
tease.
I enjoyed this cracky post. You write with female PMs and boondocks Viet`nam male Boo Kook. Duh Play Day okay.
Panic attack psychosis that you convey is male hormones.
You are so ejaculation Rated. Raw emotion, and male hi.
I tease. I love to poke a stupid comments. I am tryiny retain
American Barn Manure Association for Pro Bingo Party Day.
I feel like playing Bingo in NYC? I may go out to eat pancakes.
Waffles?
Gasping?
Heartache?
Great feisty.
I followed kim gamble.
I always follow Natalie.
Natalie like crust cut off.
You need to serve soup.
She eats Alpo dog chow.
Phew.
Drue-Silla. Behave. silly.
You are sooth behaving.
Soothing good troubles.
I sing.
The Farmer in a dell
a farmer see Stellaa
Drew-Silla, Heigh-ho
a farmer need no wife
gads
who nows anything
I no know play bingo
button stay stuck-0.
Leather speedos, chunky gold chains, chaps and cowbow boots .
Not swimwear, not in Australia, anyway. More for drinks after work, that sort of thing.
Whenever I read one of your posts I feel as if I've been on a wondrous journey, a tour de force of bon jovery, almost as if I've been riding the subway with a canned ham lashed to the side of my head. Truly, the sheer virtuosic opacity of your writing is a gift to us all; I bow to your priapic prowess, your turgid, heaving lucidity.

Oh wait, I thought this was Thoth's post.

But, LEATHER Speedos?
It's OK to be in the middle Jay, as long as you don't track any of Thoth's sparkling prose in here; I just had the floors done.

Art; exactly!

Kim, Stellaa, the whole leather speedo thing does seem a little over the top. Who besides a cheap '70s porn star would wear such a thing, let alone admit it?

Speaking of cheap porn stars, you sicken me Montana, as always. Check your inbox please.

And Dorian, thanks for showing me the way to that gem. Here's some more of Thoth's scintillating prose from Woman's Sexual Semantics:

"When I reached the part of the story where my love and I were naked in bed kissing and touching—and not having intercourse—she started making noise.

"I heard her clitoris make a buzz or a rattle snake sound every time she parted her thighs. When she closed her legs I could still hear the muffled sounds of the little snake screaming. The sex I had that night was beyond description—a woman fully aroused is a rattle snake in a tornado. I will never forget the night I fucked a rattle snake.

She was breathing hard, and she started to touch herself (fully dressed), unintentionally. She touches her forehead, her upper arms, around and below her breasts, she presses with both hands on her lower abdomen, then back to her forehead. By now, tears are running down her cheeks, using mascara to write some poem; her eyes are glowing with sympathy, compassion and severe lust. From her body language I could tell there is a climax of some sort approaching. She started to part her thighs slightly and then put them back together and press with her hands on the lower abdomen, and then again and again—no she did not want to pee. Yet, I could "

and “I want to fuck your brains out,” is a woman’s saying, because women can do that. If you care about a woman or you just want to have sex, you must show her that you trust her. Open up, talk about your feelings and listen to hers. You do not have to hear yourself talking, just get those feelings out. When it comes to “feelings”, you can never even the odds. What you are trying to do here is to show her that you have an emotional side; that you have feelings and you are not afraid to show them; that you are a fucking human being. Do not fucking talk about your fucking job or money or car; even hookers, do not want to hear that. Finally, a great tip: match your clothes and learn to fucking dance…"




There you have it ladies and gentlemen. If only a man shows the courage, the vision, to match his clothes and learn to dance, he can fuck a rattlesnake in a tornado. Or something.
Thoth has more class and dignity in his little finger than you have in your whole body. Did you ever think he finds you boring?
Oh goodness gracious Scanner, I don't know if I'll be able to live, knowing that someone as sublime as Thoth, with his ability to fuck rattlensakes and all, finds me boring. Whatever shall I do? :P

And speaking of class and dignity, how's the whole plagiarism and calling women skanky coochee whores thing working out for you?
I just wanted to say that Trey Montana is smokin' hawt!
I can't say that I think this post is much, but WOW the dialog you created is rich, really interesting. Thank you for managing, and keeping, all those comments above. (I am going to have to read it all over again, slower this time, you have people here who really know how to exchange!)
Trey does have a certain oleaginous charm. He bears watching th0ugh; if he ever gets you in his hot tub, do NOT drink the pomegranate daquiris.

And DH; it's all about the comments really.
I haven't thought about it sence it happened. It seems there are more great people on OS than you and your little clique would think!
I'm a bit confused as to the relevance of this post so bare with me while I go over it in my head and drag you along with the flow.In the beginning of your post you said we all have the right to delete whatever we want from our blogs. Fair enough. Yet the rest of the post continues to defame a person that did exactly what he has the right to do. Is it that severe an issue? Is how a person responds to their favorites in a comment area going to have an impact our lives if it's less or more than some of us would expect, or do? Are perceptions of a person based on past or present comments something that has, or will have, a major impact our lives as well? Is a preconceived notion that someone is a misogynist or a misandrist again, going to have a major affect on our lives?
I haven't seen the side of Thoth that you are describing. My feelings of admiration for him are based on our own personal relationship. That relationship will not be affected by whatever is being said here. I have not seen the sides being revealed here by some of the posters, yet a few are my favorites and their opinions, or comments, will not affect my relationships with them. Why is there such a desire to conjure up an audience to incite hate or disdain for another?
We are not all the same and God forbid we become boring enough of a world to be. When we are offended why do we find it easier to attack, or offend , another rather than walk away? It's not a battle field, no guns are drawn and no one will bleed by word fire.
Do we not have enough self-confidence or strength in ourselves that would prevent us from becomming riled over others words, thoughts or impressions? It's not a male issue and it's not a female issue. Both genders can be vindictive. It's a human issue but it's one that's controllable.
With that said, I hope you all find some peace, walk down your own paths and allow others to walk down theirs. Good luck to you all.
"I haven't thought about it sence it happened"

Why doesn't that surprise me? Still, enough people witnessed it that it's out there now, part of the Scanner legend, whether you think about it or not. And there are indeed lots of great people in OS; Thoth isn't one of them however. Sorry if that gets your knickers in a wad. People like you and the others who fawn over such specimens used to puzzle me, but no longer. At some point I realized that what motivates the herd behavior is a desperate desire for validation, along with an implied quid pro quo and a juvenile need to be in on the circle jerk du jour. Though it no longer puzzles me, it DOES leave me sick to my stomach.
ThroughMyEyes, thanks for the comment. I can see you put a lot of thought into it. It's as simple as this though; when someone wants to post here in OPEN Salon but then feels the need to filter out all but the most fawning comments, they make me want to puke. People are free to delete what they like, but by the same token, I'm entitled to have an opinion about it, and to state that opinion in any way I see fit.

Thanks again for the thoughtful comment.
Drew-Silla, indeed you are entitled to rant, we all are. But I am looking at this from an outside perspective and perhaps that's what's drawing me to see the angle differently than you. I am feeling the same things in this forum and in the same light that Thoth is being presented. Do you see that? He has been called a misogynist yet I am seeing so much displaced anger towards a man from women that the placemats appear to be on both sides of the table. The same with the vulgarity expressed here as opposed to how he is coined to be. That is where I am confused as to the action and the reactions. All of which gives me pause to wonder where the line in the sand is , the purpose ( other than self venting) and the probability of an unheeding result on both sides.
ThroughMyEyes, as you said, you've got a different angle on this than me, and in fact, there are as many angles on a given topic as there are people. For me that's a given. It comes down to this I guess: you like Thoth. That's fine, you can like whoever you want. I don't like him, and that's fine too. We're all free to follow where our instincts lead us, wouldn't you agree?
I left a post somewhat like Kali Ma's, saying I didn't *get* it (tho many people appeared to do so). I'm still wandering around in the dark...
You and me both Myriad. The only thing I know for certain is that the guy makes my skin crawl. As I remarked to ThroughMyEyes earlier, I've found that it's best to follow my instincts on these matters.
I would never delete your comments because I adore your name and your avatar.
The feeling is mutual Redstocking Grandma.

I'm troubled though. I can't help but feel that, rather than doing a post wherein I was critical of someone, I should have maybe written something about kittens, or posted pictures of sad eyed clowns, or done a wonderful, wistful vignette about my childhood in a rural New England community.

Not.
Um ... the boy went back and edited his ' piece ' - it now reads, ' tough rubber Speedo ...' - followed up in comments by 'leather like, 'and some other fumbling stuff.
I guess it just wasn't paying off.

Speedos were developed here in Sydney back in the twenties by one A. Macrae. whose business was in socks and such.
Originally wool /cotton, then later nylon, to my knowledge he never went near leather, or even leather-look rubber - that stuff is better left to the night, I'm thinking.
Our teams all compete in nylon.
I'm offline for a day and all the fun starts. I think pussy is too fine a word to describe Thoth, being as how I love cats and all. Coward works for me.
Nylon does seem more sensible Kim. Unless of course you're trying to get a rousing ovati0n from the women in the stands, or planning on fucking a rattlesnake in a tornado.
Agreed Emma. Coward would have been a better choice, but I was irritated when I wrote this, just sort of dashed it out so to speak. I'd change it but it's out there now, for better or worse.
I'm troubled though. I can't help but feel that, rather than doing a post wherein I was critical of someone, I should have maybe written something about kittens, or posted pictures of sad eyed clowns, or done a wonderful, wistful vignette about my childhood in a rural New England community.

Not.

Drew-Silla: You could always write some "poetry." That's sure to garner a bevy of "Excellent post, very moving: Rated." from the only-a-circle-jerk-will-do fanbots Thoth so loves.
Great idea Emma. There's something about poorly written poetry which inspires the bots to delirious paroxysms of effusive praise. Of course, I'd need to hose down my blog afterwards.
There was another post today about how there has been a problem getting comments to stick ... Perhaps this may have been the problem, rather than deletion? (We need a comment from the blog-owner in question, I guess...)
It was intenti0nal Myriad. I saw comment after comment, not just from myself, but from you, Stellaa, Kim, and others, any comment which was less than adoring in fact, which were on the post in question for varying lengths of time and then were gone. It wasn't an OS issue; it was a coward issue.
If that were the case, myriad, all manner of comments would have disappeared.
As it turned out, only those critical of the blogger's morals, plus a few others before he realized they weren't what they appeared to be, got the treatment.
Some stayed up less than a minute - one, nine minutes.
None of the rent-crowd-were touched.
There were over forty to the contrary - eight remain, and five of those are piss-takes. All, with the exception of drew-silla's use of the word ' fuckhead,' were civil, reasonable comments.

The other adjectives, like creepy, or misogynistic, were if anything, restrained.
I was beyond the pale with "fuckhead" Kim, there's no denying it. Why don't I feel bad?
Hey I'm Ok about the dissing speedos, but poetry gets enough flak! Just saying...
Rita, I was referring to poorly written poetry. Good poetry, yours for instance, is a different matter altogether.
I was puzzled when he mentioned having help with the deletions. How would that work I wonder? Is it an ability imparted to him by his leather Speedo or what? There are so many mysteries to the man:P
It could only work on a network, and I doubt even thoth has the pull to get everyone else in the council office working on his blog.
The likelier explanation is gamer's reflex.
You spend enough time in your bedroom, you develop certain skills.
Practice does make perfect. I'm guessing though that the location is more basementish.
What more can I say -- great post!
R
It wasn't the one comment Czar; it was indeed a pattern of them from you which irritated me. Since I'm not obligated to explain myself to you or anyone else, I'll leave it at that. To paraphrase part of your comment here:

"If Drew-Silla wants to use her blog to express her views about people who bug her, or to call a supericilious asshole a fucktard in comments, whatever the reason, who the fuck cares. It's her choice and she's using the technology afforded her in this venue. Big fucking deal."

Get over it fucktard.

Bonnie, thanks for reading. I've got to be honest here though; one of the few people in OS who bother me as much as Thoth is you.

And Donna; excellent comment, very moving. Rated:P
You miss the point Czar. Again. Calling you a fucktard wasn't something stupid which I'm unable to justify; it was an observation of fact, and one which I don't need to explain to thin-skinned, puling little online fuckwits such as yourself. I do find it hilarious though that you accuse me of juvenile behavior even as you resort to making fun of an avatar pic to show how "clever" you are. Your own comments illustrate your fucktardedness better than anything I could say; thanks for that.
"Robinow Syndrome gal" - good grief, that is a truly weird 'accusation'. (Shakes head, retreats to garden...)
The garden's definitely a saner place Myriad:P
Drew,

Your frustration has created a classic thread; I like your style.

"for pretending to be poets or writers, " is a jealous comment and brings me to my point- there are a number of very serious poets and writers here (don't worry, I'm not claimin') and I think when a serious writer posts fiction comments that are clearly in a certain tone, and I know it when I see it, or write it, are fair game for deletion.

My subjective view on non-fiction is (and I have had many, many deletions to my comments from the scared and weak) that only a pussy would ever delete ANYTHING on a thread except now I need another word to use than pussy, because I love pussy, and am trying to break the habit of including it in rants, derisive or otherwise.

Aloha Kakou
Thanks for the read and the comment Oahu. Yes, as Emma said here yesterday, pussy is too fine a word to waste on cowards.

And Czar:

(chuckle)

~erp~

*pffssppffspftsssssshhhh*

whatever
Comment deleting doesn't really bug me.
"We're all free to follow where our instincts lead us, wouldn't you agree?"

absolutely.
even.if.it.isn't.the.healthiest.decision.
That's quite a coincidence Devin; losing my chapstick doesn't bother me much. Go figure;-)

Amanda, thanks for the health tip. I'll print that out and tack it up on the wall above my computer.

Pissant is one of my favorites too Stellaa. My dad used to have an expression that ties into it: "skinnier than an ant's pecker." He used a lot of "quaint" expressions actually.
I just looked up Robinow Syndrome. Not nice. Not nice at all. And yeah, pissant -- that expression should be making a comeback if it isn't already.
Hi Emma. Czar's quite the critter ain't he? I'd be more upset about the Robinow thing if my avatar was a pic of me and not the actress Juliet Landau:P
This topic interests me quite a bit because I am a former newspaper reporter -- loved paper newspapers and the old opinion's pages and also have reservations and fascination with the online social networking and communication forums.

I read this last night and thought about it and now I am posting my opinion.

I don't understand why anybody would post something 20 times on another person's blog. Honestly, it seems a little bit unstable to me. I am not saying that you are. I don't know you at all. I am glad enough that you brought this topic up. I think it is interesting.

But you're kidding, right? I mean you didn't REALLY post a comment twenty times on someone else's blog did you? That seems really, really strange to me. But then, I don't take blogging very seriously. I don't consider it all that serious of a pass time. I guess some people do consider it very serious.

Anyway, I wanted to tell you that I think one of my comments was recently deleted from someone's post and I had some hurt feelings about it. I thought he really didn't understand my sense of humor and really must have thought badly of me or something. But you know, maybe it had absolutely nothing to do with me. I mean, I have never met the man. I have only visited his blog maybe 1/2 dozen times since I joined OS a few months ago. So, probably he thought nothing about me at all and just didn't like the comment and wanted to delete it for some reason.

It is possible that the comment didn't ACTUALLY post. But I had gone back to see what other people said about the particular post. I was curious about other people's opinions. I noticed the comment was gone, apparently deleted. And it sort of hurt my feelings.

It was Nick L's post about Easter Movies. I had said "Ben Hurr is a hottie." I sort of think he is but mostly I was just feeling silly that day. I think Nick might have taken offense or something.

My next reaction was: Oh Well. If Nick deleted that, he's probably a bit more uptight than I am. That's sort of funny.

Also, I had someone visit a post of mine and say horrible things about my politics. She accused me of all sorts of things that were not true and ranted and raved about some opinions I had shared. She actually, I think, made two long comments on the same post.

I did think about deleting those comments because they seemed really mean spirited and it was obvious she hadn't read my entire post because much of what I had said in the post contradicted things she had accused me of.

I left the posts there, though. I thought she actually had exposed herself for being hateful and sort of stupid -- at least in that instance.

So, I am pretty liberal about allowing comments on my own posts. I can't forsee the comment I would delete.

But I think every blogger should have the authority to delete comments as they see fit. We are essentially writers, editors and publishers of our information. How we manage it is up to us.

And you have every right to write whatever you want in your own blog -- and publish it to as many people as you want.

So, I just don't understand why this upsets you so much and why you would be so adamant about posting something 20 times on someone else's blog.

Seriously, it fascinates me that you would do this and that you would feel so intense about it.

Peace be with you.

Patty
Hi Patty. I'm fascinated that you're so fascinated that I'd do such a thing. I could get all meta and introspective, but the honest truth is that I was bored that evening, and Thoth is a creep and a coward, so I decided to have a little fun with him, not to mention the fanbots who think he's fine as frog hair. Does that work for you?

And Stellaa, Czar seemed quite wounded didn't he. Who'd have thought he was such a sensitive fellow?
Criticism is an interesting concept. This is criticism as a noun, from the American Heritage Dictionary :
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1. The act of criticizing, especially adversely.
2. A critical comment or *judgment*. ((asterisks mine))
3.
a. The practice of analyzing, classifying, interpreting, or evaluating literary or other artistic works.
b. A critical article or essay; a critique.
c. The investigation of the origin and history of literary documents; textual criticism.
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The first two definitions concern unfavorable commentary, the others concern critique of a work. None of them concern criticism of the person, and yet that's often what happens when we set out to critique - we end up coloring the person who did the thing with our feelings about what they did.

Human nature unfortunately, we find it difficult to separate person from action. That tendency has become really noticeable in this online environment, where anonymity lends courage to those on the keyboard side of the screen. It's also pointed up a major human failing - that we assume, very often, that a person's actions *are* that person.

I've seen that proven wrong often enough to be cautious with my assumptions :). Which I shall do here : to me you and Thoth seem like oil and water, and like I do with RL people that I know like that, I can continue to read both of you when I find your topics of interest, and pay no mind to your inability to mix peaceably - I don't need the two of you together to enjoy you separately :).

As I've said elsewhere I've found bloggers to be an opinionated bunch, which is fine, especially on their own blogs where they're free to rant to their heart's desire and about whatever is on their minds.

As you're doing here :).
Thanks for reading Seer, and for the comment.

"I don't need the two of you together to enjoy you separately"

Exactly. I've seen people in OS, and other blog sites as well, go at each other like cats and dogs, and as often as not they're BOTH people who's writing I respect or at least enjoy, and their negative opinions of each other aren't going to change that for me. There are always those who'll say, after a dust up or disagreement of some kind, "why can't we all get along." I do understand why they'd wish that, but the conflicts don't bother me that much, and no amount of hand wringing is going to make them go away. Conflict is a natural consequence of human nature, and humans online are no exception to that. Obviously;-)
Since your own "debating skills" only extend to such witticisms as RobSynGal and Drew-Silly, and to repeated, petulant demands that I explain myself to you, it's kind of hard to take your criticisms seriously Craze. I called you a name; get over it already. Or not. It's no skin off my ass either way.

And Truth Quest; that's what I'm sayin!
Looks like you've got a new boyfriend Drew. Why don't you two get a room already? Sheesharoni!
heh. No boyfriend Nana, just your garden variety OCD-sufferer with a whine a mile long.

Truth Quest; how, aside from location, do you distinguish the trash in a Wal Mart parking lot from the shit they sell inside?
"baaaa haaa haaa" indeed Craze; I guess you've shown me:P To paraphrase your last two comments:

"Drew-silly, Drew-silly, I'M not one, YOU are! Yeah, uh huh, look at me, please, please, react to my capering, I'm CLEVER dammit, I'll get the final word in, that'll show her, uh huh, yeah! RobSynGal, Drew-Silly, Drew-Silly!"

You need to come up with a new shtick sissy boy. I'm going to bed now, but feel free to prance and caper some more; that's why they call it Open Salon after all.
Craze Czar: You seem to think that I and others here are accountable to you. I did not read the "fucking retard" comment, or if I did, I don't remember it. As such, I have nothing to "explain." I also didn't know that Drew-Silla's avatar wasn't her when I made my comment about your remark, which I still find to be objectionable. That said, I don't understand why you are interjecting yourself into a thread about people's reactions to Thoth's execrable behavior and making it about you because you didn't get the answer you wanted from Drew-Silla. It's clear that she doesn't like you, so maybe it's best to move on from it since I doubt that she is going to change her mind.
Wow. I see what you mean Drew. I've called a LOT of people fucktards, and never had one of them fall in love with me. It doesn't seem fair:(
Truth - Looking forward to your, ah, definitive summaries!
I've had a breathalyzer on my 'puter for months now, right next to the dash cam and cuffs and stun gun. It doesn't seem to make any difference;)

And Stellaa, that's fascinating. At last count, I've had nine comments from Czarina, but I guess what's good for the gander isn't for the goose. It's amusing she'd accuse me of being off MY meds....
I've always thought that Thoth dude was a weasel, but I just avoid his posts myself.

I see that you've been naughty again though Drew, and now you've got a case of czarnorrhea. Have you tried penicillin?
It followed me home Gar; what can I say? I may keep it though, if only it would learn some new tricks.

And Czarina, regarding the sissy thing, what am I supposed to think when I see someone who's so delicate that being called a name leads them to days of whining, girlish little diatribes? Since your initial comment, you've tried to steer the conversation in all sorts of directions, looking for something that will stick, but the plain, sad truth is that you're such a nelly boy you can't get over having been called a fucktard. "Wa-a-a-a-a-ah!" pretty much sums up your commentary here, despite your best efforts to make it appear otherwise. And by all means, please come back and say "Nuh HUH, you are!" or something in that vein, you giant ponce.
So... Thoth is a weasel? Damn!
And craze-czar is a dude, with a blonde ponytail?

Fascinating comment thread..
I think pissant could be a sexist term. I didn't know what else to say and since this is such a big party, I just wanted to be a part of it. Please don't delete me, I beg of you....I think this is someone's favorite song on OS--"Oh, Lord it's Hard to be Humble ....When You're Perfect in Every Way...
It's either a ponytail or a dildo Trig; it's kind of hard to make out.
If it's not a sexist term Doctor, we need to make it one.
"If you cheated on your man a long time ago but you managed to stay together, know this. If you ever catch him staring at you, he sees cum all over your face. Smile."

Thoth said that? It would appear that maybe he was cheated on at some point, and that HE was staring at the girl that he managed to stay together with and seeing CUM all over her face. Whether that was a good or bad thing is not really clear, is it? I mean, he was apparently smiling at that image.

The only thing I ever had against Thoth up to this point was reports of a particularly nasty as fuck PM that he sent to wsftc that possibly influenced her decision to totally delete her blog and quit participating here at OS. I would love to see a copy of that PM. I've heard that more than a few people have it. The reason that THAT is the ONLY thing is probably because I don't read Thoth.
craze... wow. You read my blog about my table tennis prowess, amongst other kinds of prowess's? I saw no comment from you. I will most assuredly be in attendance at the Drew OS meet-up if and when, and after I dispatch you at the table tennis table I'll have Drew bend over it and make her scream in ecstasy (if she looks anything near to Juliet Landrau that is!)... It is the way of our people.

Drew, you down wit' that?
I really hope that's not why wsftc left, or Dennis Knight - I miss them both. However nasty pm's can get ( and I've been spared ) they can always be posted, even as a parting gesture, lest anyone coming after make the same mistake of enraging someone who is patently insane.
But Trig, wouldn't it be a bit odd if you fucked your own alter ego? I'm just sayin...
And Kim, I can't speak for WSFTC, but yes, Thoth was front and center in that one. That was part of the motivator for this post, that people fawn and slobber over such a two-faced, Jekkyl and Hyde piece of shit.
And look Trig, Czarina wants you to fuck her, seeing as you're actually me. Wow!
Trig and Czarnorrhea? Can anyone say bromance?
craze.. I'll clean your clock. Loser bends over the table. Fair enuff?

and Drew, craze has a point. You are silly! Alter ego?
Duh Trig; you admitted it on your own blog.

But pardon me fellas, I need to step outside for some air; all of a sudden this place smells like the locker room at the Y.
Oh yeah, I did didn't I. Shhhhh. Some may have forgotten that you and I are one in the same person. I love OS!
Trig is Drew? You gonna bend yourself over the ping-pong table? I'd pay to see that.

Whatever happened to SageMerlin's grand get-together of OS? There could be some good scenes there. No "carryin'" tho, I hope, cuz there could be fireworks after a few drinks...
Re avatar - EEEEK. What happened to RobSynGal? (Is that name up for grabs...)

Why don't we all trade names and avatars...could be fun. (I don't THINK I've been smoking anything, tho I had just-a-sip of coffee liqueur.)
OHHH NOOOOo - now you've absconded with the RobSynGal moniker.

God, I need another drink. Trouble is all I've got is coffee liqueur and some kind of uggy lemon gin (somebody left it behind).
Many times I accused Drew-Silla of being someone else and was nastily slapped down. I always thought it was nanatehay and Natalie's initial response on this post led me to believe that it was. Let's just say that I liked this version of Drew-Silla a lot more than trig palin. Multiple ids are dishonest -- I like to know who I'm dealing with, quaint I know -- so I won't be posting here again either. Too bad.
Left-behinds are sometimes all that get me through Myriad. I'm drinking some Midori left over from New Years right now, not that it's helping much.

And Emma, I'm not Trig; just compare our writing styles and you'll see it's true. Would it help if I admitted that I'm actually Gomez Xavier Stern, a retired longshoreman from Philly?
I took me almost as long to read the comment stream as it took to create it. Two days of comments on one blog, impressive.

Drew-Silla, you are my hero. I love your way with words. I went to Thoth's blog and just the titles made my skin crawl. That's when I remembered all the times I saw his latest blog come up and think, "His titles sure sound stupid". Not really wanting to have any of his thoughts anywhere in my head, I've never read any and I won't be starting now.

Wish you hadn't just changed your picture and your name. Czar may have some kind of thing for you, but I really think it's jealousy. Just a guess after reading his comments.

I'm thinking that I need to use the word fuck more often in my rants. Maybe I'll start some fun like this!
HELP! My head ... feels funny ... must be the neighbors really smoking tonight and the fumes drifting over ...

Leslie, actually I think the change of face is actually quite fetching. I don't know about the change o' name tho.
P.S. - how do you change your screen name?
Thanks Leslie, and you can't go wrong using the word "fuck" as far as I'm concerned. It's a good, solid Anglo Saxon word of impeccable lineage, and has literally hundreds of uses.

Myriad - or should I say "Trig" - my head feels funny too. I think there's some unchewed coca leaf in this Peruvian mask thingy.
I am really confused, Is Trig Drew? Is Trig Myriad? who is who here? Please.
"Let's just say that I liked this version of Drew-Silla a lot more than trig palin. Multiple ids are dishonest -- I like to know who I'm dealing with, quaint I know -- so I won't be posting here again either. Too bad."

Too bad Emma! Good nighty!!!
Rita, I can state categorically that Trig isn't Drew; she's actually a retired longshoreman from Philly, name of Gomez Stern. It IS possible that he and Myriad are one and the same; have you ever noticed how they're never both in the same place at the same time?

And Trig, please stop being such a fucktard.
So Myriad, Emma Peel, and Drew are all in the same?
What was this blog about?
My head feels funny - and keeps changing appearance. I think I need a new OS ID...
Who is Dorian Gray? He seems to keep archives of posts people have deleted to hide their wickedness.
I was thinking about being Evil Willow for the night, but then I remembered people were actually commenting on my post on Remedial Sibling Rivalry and OS. That might confuse anyone who don't know how easy it is to change your screen name and avatar..
Trig The Thoth - if that is your real name - I'm neither Emma nor Myriad. I'm naught but a simple longshoreman with a lifelong dream of wearing a Peruvian cocaine mask.

Myriad, you can change your name by going to your account and changing the name you used when you first signed in to whatever you want the new moniker to be, then going to your profile and switching from your screen name to the new, changed name. It's actually a lot easier than it sounds.

And Redstocking; I don't know who Dorian is, but I know that the posts he mentioned were there this afternoon. If they're gone now it's because they've been deleted this evening.
I added you as a favorite but only if YOU come back.
I know I'm stepping in it again, but if everyone is someone else, who the fuck is that fucking Wack-Job Bonnie Russel. Don't tell me she's really Art James!!!~~ AAAHHHaaaajhhhh~~
Scanner,
I seem to be stalking you. I am heartened by how seriously you have taken my big sisterly advice:)
I'll be back Leslie. This is just a temporary state, an experiment in the mutability of online identity and the often false assumptions people make based on avatars and screen names and other ephemera of this new medium of communication.
Red, I can't help it, I can't sleep when I'm laughing this hard,, hah!!
I have a computer and I cannot post!
Okay, NOW it works, when I've forgotten all the brilliant things I had to say. Damned percocet...
Not as easy as all that - my screen name is in black and immutable. I have no choice but to add to my three dozen alternate personalities... (Oops...)
I like your style Plain Grit. If you PM me a Percocet I'll add you to my favorites list.
Scanner, I am beginning to realize that you and Miss Russell are having a demented passionate affair you are desperate to hide from your loved ones. What else could explain such devoted obsession?
Myriad, your screen name is immutable, that's true, but you can change from having it showing on your comments and on your blog to having the name you used when you first joined up - your real name, which can be changed in your account to the new name you want - showing instead. The screen name is above your account sign in name on your profile page; you change from one to the other just by clicking on them.
I can't do that - that would be illegal. Besides, I need them all. This place is a pain in the ass. I expect to get MANY favorites from other people...and my other identities...
I am RSG's loony twin. Multiple identities should be honor bound not to rate or comment on the other identity's post.
What I did was, 2 1/2 hours ago, went downstairs and hung out with the blue groper awhile ( it's just after midday here ), came back up, showered, made coffee, and sat down, logged on.
All in that order.
Nothing else happened - maybe the groper smiled at me or something - I don't remember - what I do know is that things have changed here in 2 1/2 hours.
Either someone laced my snorkel or you people have replaced each other somehow.
Also what I know is I miss Emma, and I'm sick, I already was, of looking at that leery pink face.
The groper's smile was weird enough.

Laying down here, and trying to think about Donald Duck.
Plain Grit, I favorited you the second I saw your face.
Red, I didn't think it was this obvious. We really talk in code. Every time she calls me a SLIMEBALL, she's really saying she wants this very hot manly body of mine!
You're so clever! Here, have a percocet and some coffee liqueur to wash it down. :: THUD ::
Scanner, but when she says anyone who defends you is turning into you, what does she have in mind? I'm scared. Cassy and I plagiarize each other all the time.
Damn, now I'm scared. She might really be Thoth Russell!
She might be Cassandra Woolf, and she used to be Loony Bin Lizzy.
Kim, you prefer blue-green to pink? Happy to oblige.
OK, maybe it's the Midori, but you people are starting to freak me out a little.
Somebody wants to get themselves on the ping pong table....
I'm glad I didn't just join or I'd be confused. Oh wait a minute, I did. Okay, the percocet is to blame...

WE CAN'T BE SURE ANYBODY IS ANYBODY!

(The freakiest Saturday night party yet...)
Boonie-Roo, I always knew you were fascinated with me. Now, you even want to look like me. Which one of us plagiarized now. I think it was you sweetfeet! Hah~
A new toy - I can't control myself...
I've always known you were a nice person Emma. Let's just keep that our secret;-)

And Plain, Gritty, I've taken part in some nice Saturday weirdness here, but yes; Freakiest. Ever. I think it's the after-effects from the cocaine mask.
Good grief, just think of the havoc one could wreak! It's simple to take on someone else's name and avatar picture, and when you do all previous comments back to the beginning of time are affected. Wow - a person could really, um, have havoc and wreak fun. Fortunately the percocet keeps me barely able to peck out my comments (and my eyes)... But, dammit, some untrustworthy person is likely to take this and run...
Better some ole leftover coca than dead fish! I had to drop that avatar FAST.
Let's really make this a Good News Sunday.
But, yes, the small-ass, big-mouth bass was impressive...if you like that kind of thing. (Sounds a mite obscene to me...)
I'll bring some lube for your mama's ass too Czarbaby; works for me.

Plain, I'm still waiting on that Percocet. I thought you were a doctor!
Miscegenation with fish is blasphemy.
Some people need to stay on one comment thread so their parole officer can keep track of them. This means you, Scanner.
Ozma, is that you?
Kim, I missed you up there in the split personalities. For the love of God, what's a blue groper?
I don't know how to answer the question Ozma, is that you?
A blue groper is some kind of fish...or a very cold pervert.

I had something to say about miscegenation with fish, but it's too revolting even for this comment thread (tho it had a back reference to a Scanner post). Let me just say, instead, that fish are okay, but with LOBSTERS or SHRIMP or other non-finned sea creatures, now THAT's blasphemy.
What about octopae? I've heard they're the most intelligent of all the invertebrates.
I will not comment on Bonnie's latest post; I will not comment on Bonnie's latest post; I will not comment on Bonnie's latest post.

If I were Scanner, I would change my name and then who would she be talking about? Remember, once you change your screen name, everything changes. I would pick something like Flaubert or Stendahl or Turgenev--something snooty.
Octopussies are too shmart to mess with this crowd. BUT...if they did...all those tentacles...
Leaky is back! Ms. Mole, I've just got to say, the place hasn't been the same in your absence. It's falling apart!

And Turgenev was a blatant fucktard.
I know Plain; it's the tentacles that first got me thinking. But tell me; is Plain Grit perchance an anagram for that y0kel Trig Palin?
I share with others concern about the blue groper that Kim is spending time with.
What the FUCK is going on over here?
You got some kind of problem with My Kind?
Oh Nate, you typed "fuck". My fav! : p

Now where's the ping-pong table? I'm feel like bending over.
nan-ate-hay - you just need to take some percocet and catch up.
Jesus, look how far apart Drew-Silly's eyes are. It's worse than a blue groper.

And Ablonde, I'm still hoping that Kim will come back by and clarify his situation vis a vis this afternoon.
Where did Ozma go?
Nanatehay, until you change your mask, you won't be able to understand.

Turgenev, I have a message from Ozma, your parole officer. You need to change your name to Rupert Giles. He used to be Drew-Silla's lover.
Brides - you're a fucktard. : p
I've PMed you twice now Drew, asking why you called me a fucktard. My feelings are bruised that you haven't answered, so expect an endless series of inane, meandering comments whining about it. That is, as soon as you actually post something.
What in tarnation is happening to OSers?
This was a very sentimental with emotion.
Rated.
My Rated button don't ever want to unstuck.
Very cooperate post. You are very wonderful.
I wish I could buy you a red mule with slippers.
You write like you should go Repeat GED class.
You flunked kindergarten with me. I wear shoes.
I love horse shoes with high heel staccato clunks.
Heels sounds make me wish to play bongo drums.
I think drums should be banged. Wild turkey wings.
Chicken wings make me sin-song. I stand up to clap.
mean`The Messiah Chorus gets wild @ Hallelujah!
How did you draw over 200 comments? Kiss Troth?
It's hard to remain seated. Sit in a pew? Pew is sits.
I read that if you go to pew you just sit? Sit in pew.
Well. I am happy this Battle of a Bulge? Pew O sit.
Artistic citizens pat Ya fanny. Feed You great grits.
You deserve fresh organic red beets, lettuce green,
and red kale.
Simmer H2O.
Steep and sip.
Gulp Kale H2O.
It's a pot liquor.
Sip kale waters.
Rated for Meow.
Ya fun ferocious.
I's Still Confused.
This blue groper is four and a half feet long and lives inside the Cabbage Tree Bay Marine Conservation Zone, Fairy Bower, Sydney, is about 20 - 25 years old, and we have a certain relationship, ablonde, that you, marine biology and all, would understand.
Except that it smiles.
But today ( sunday here ) it's looking like just about anything could happen. A lot of it already has, on this thread.

I'm not going to tell any of you in america what's going to happen tomorrow morning, because that would be unfair, and cruel.

But I will say this : volcanoes in iceland - not funny.

Smiling gropers - real.
WE confused ART. It's all been worth it...
It all seemed like harmless fun and games until Drew-Silly went way over the line in a comment on another post. It would be dreadful if anyone believed that comment was from the real Drew-Silla.
Sigh. What a shame. Always somebody has to spoil the fun. I has me suspicions as to who...
Redstocking, the comment was NOT from the real Drew-Silla. I suspect it was from CrazeCzar actually. If I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit it, but my gut says it's him.
I know what you mean RobSynGroper/Myriad. There's always a malevolent little prick in every barrel.
Hey! You're revealing my cunningly crafted alter ego. Speaking of which, I had a different candidate in mind for Drew-Silly...
The URLs always give us away....

So who's your candidate?
Oops, the URLs.

Um, well I kinda thot Scanner... But the comments are kinda CC-lame... Silly's URL is no give-away since it's a whole new account...

Owell, I think I'll go to bed and check in first thing tomorrow morning to assess the damage...
I fart on all of you and refer you instead to the genius of Harry's Ghost!
Speaking of octopi, I swam into a swarm ( mob, crowd, collective noun for octopus anyone ? ) of them - they were squid, really - on my way to hang with my b.g. - as I swam in, they immediately regrouped : a perfect circle around me, facing in with their big eyes, wiggling their little arrangements at me ... I swear if you could have seen it from above, they formed a perfect circle.
What did they think I was ? What did they want from me ? I was in my faux-leather speedos - it was obvious I had no money.
these things have been happening all day, today. I already warned you about Sunday.

When a blue groper looks up at you and smiles : that's good news. Probably the best news you're going to get all day, unless your uncle finds a way to fly out of Prague, or until whatever they put in your snorkel wears off.
How sweet, Kim. This blue groper smiles at you too. A nice ending (at least for me) on this blog tonight, after a very sour note spoiled the fun... A demain.
How sweet, Kim. This blue groper smiles at you too. A nice way to end (for me, anyway) on this post, after a sour note that spoiled the fun...
Before you go bysies, the third : what sour note ? what have I missed ? I thought everyone was behaving, here.

What about : " I swam into a collective noun for octopus ... " - writing, or what ?
Emma; thanks for always being you.

Kim; thank you also my friend. Your comments are like little paintings sometimes, flashes of imagery transmitted across, what, 18 time zones and a universe away from this sad-ass continent. I value them highly.

Myriad; sleep well, and don't let the armadillos get into your radishes.

Art James; every comment from you is like a blessing, an epiphany. Thank you my friend!
Kim, Myriad was referring to a certain party who hijacked my identity with intent to cause mayhem. I suspect personally that it's my new stalker (not the first by any means) CrazeCzar.
I would like to know who Drew-Silly is. That was some nasty stuff that I'm not about to forget. A new low for OS.
Oh, and NowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent; your mother was a HAMster, and your father smelled of elderberries. I fart in your general direction, you son of an English pig kh-nigh-et. I DO love Harry though.
Drew. I guess this day will 'go-down' as one of the widest days in `

Learning abc.
I spare detail.
Drew, etcetera ...

You made my eyes misty.
I can't sea the piano keys.
I almost spiel `octopussy.

No say that in bible class.
Mennonites say `O Gaud!
God's weary. No hug? Ah!
I wish I had eight eyeball!

I'd stay to look at You. O.
God's napping O mercies.
I hope no meteor strikes.
That really knock me silly.
You know I _ You mushy.
Drew : just sparkling.

244 comments to now.

Emma's back, all is ok on os.

Thanks for having us - from g.b. and me, this has been my idea of good value.
I AM ONLY ME. Please see my post...

http://open.salon.com/blog/outside_myself/2010/04/18/a_dust-up_gets_personal_-_and_i_wasnt_even_there_-_tears
It might be more to the point to delete the comments of foul-mouthed anonymous nasties than to hurt an innocent party in trying to track down the miscreant. People who delete comments are sometimes brave pussies with huge ovaries.
"I'll never forget the time I read a book."
-- Jimmy Durante
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx




And Czarina says:

"there's other, more interesting things going on in my life. Or that....I'm working"

Why, what a UNIQUE situation that is! And yet here you are commenting 0n this post for the, what, tenth or twelfth time?

Then she goes on to say:

"I have never name-called within public comments anywhere in my 4 months on OS, but violated my own self-restraint policy above in calling whoever-the-hell-the-avatar-of-the-moment-was an "asshole". I can honestly say I'm not sorry for this first transgression.

First transgression; really? OK RobSynBoy. I call people names fairly often myself, but I at least admit it. Not to put too fine a point on it, you're obviously a fucking liar.

Anyway, I've wasted enough breath on you. Have fun at your Girl Scout meeting.
As I said last night, if I'm wrong about that, I'll be the first to apologize for it. Since there's no way to prove it either way, I'll say this; you don't seem like the sort of person who'd say the things the "Drew-Silly" ID was saying. In the mean time, we'll settle the rest of our differences with ping pong or pistols at dawn midway between Philly and Jersey.


Gomez X. Stern
Is it safe to wade into the water yet?
PS if there is a face off near Philly please let me know as I will be there to cheer on and live Tweet it.
"Weenette"; (chuckle). That's the spirit Czarina!
Regarding the site of our duel, I was referring to midway between Philly and whatever shithole burg in Jersey you hail from.

JLee; why doesn't that surprise me?

Rita, Czarina won't be able to make it I'm afraid; s/he's got a Girl Scout meeting.
Everybody's had their say. Nobody will ever be totally satisfied. This goes for the people involved in the original confrontation between Scanner on one side and Emma, Bonnie, Ablonde, et al on the other, and now between Emma and OSM and her supporters and the various manifestations of 'Drew' and whoever else has jumped in.

Any further remarks from anyone does no good and only prolongs and intensifies the nastiness.

How about we all eat shit (if it's good enough for Mozart...) and then blog & comment about other things...spring flowers, for instance. I'm uploading a lot of pictures from my garden. And remember, if properly utilized, shit produces beauty... Let a thousand flowers bloom!

(And, yes, I did just post this on OSM's blog and am consciously doing so here also.)
If y'all don't just STOP on your own, the good doctor will pass out the percocet. Unless he passes out first...
Help! He's following me around!
Looks like you've got your own stalker there Myriad. At least yours has happy pills; mine just whines.
You'll get no accusations from me Truth. Unless that's the way you like it;)
Craze, why you gotta be hatin' on my guns?
My favorite is the Thin Mints.
What's a case going for nowadays (wholesale)?
There's no use in being jealous Nana; Czarina is my new boy toy and that's final. I luuurrve the way he (chuckles) when I spank him.

And I'm with Larry; put me down for a half dozen boxes of Thin Mints.
I find myself commenting on blogs then going, wait, this would actually make a good blog itself.

As for infidelity, men and women cheat fo the same reasons. They're greedy, selfish, disloyal assholes.
You're a tramp Drew.

What was this post about again?

Oh yeah, Thoth. I've got an anecdote about him I'd like to relate.

We used to have a blogger on OS called WillSomeoneFeedTheCat. She's a respected, successful journalist in Canada, and joined OS last year because she liked what she saw going on here. Despite that her career and family didn't leave a lot of time for blogging, she devoted quite a bit of her spare time to looking for good writing, whether from new OSers or people who'd been around a while but who'd been overlooked by the TPTB. A lot of good writing goes unnoticed here, always has and always will, and there have been other people who've tried to promote new writers and overlooked posts, CriticalMess and Cartouche among others. During the period I'm discussing though, Cat had generously taken that work upon herself, and she was doing a great job of it. She did a weekly wrap-up each Friday which featured descriptions of and links to posts from all sorts of people, including from many new OSers. It was something to look forward to each week; tiaras were awarded, good writing was promoted, and fun was had by all. It went a long way towards promoting a stronger sense of community in this nuthouse, and was a good thing however you look at it.

A while back though, Cat had the temerity to make some comments of a critical nature on a post by a friend of Thoth's. I've read the post in question, and it seems to me that the criticism was justified, though she was at no time mean about it. She simply expressed her views, as did many people on both sides of the issues. Thoth was so affronted by this - and I'm guessing by the fact that he had never won a tiara from Cat - that he turned it into a personal vendetta, just kept picking at it. Weeks after all this had occurred, he came to my blog and said, among other things, that Cat is a "fucking pedophile." Drew will call me a pussy I'm sure, but I deleted the comment immediately; it was a vicious, unprovoked attack on a person who'd done as much to make OS a better place as anyone I've yet seen, and I didn't want it on my blog.

Long story short, Cat left OS. She didn't want the grief anymore, and I can't say as I blame her. Thoth's still here though, writing what amounts to gibberish and getting slobbered on by people who should know better. As far as I'm concerned, OS isn't as good a place as it used to be, and that's at least in part due to the rise of phonies like Thoth and the departure of Cat and people like her, good people and solid writers who no longer want to be associated with the asinine shit that goes on here.
Thank you, nana. I know a lot of people already knew it, but it needed to be said.
You are a pussy Nana, but thanks for getting what I was saying about Thoth.
This response is only for CAT and my readers:

nanatehay just lied.

CAT NEVER posted a comment on any of my posts. To say that she did IS A BIG LIE.

That makes nanatehay a LIAR.

CAT led a vicious campaign to bring down Big Fat Trauma Queen's post:

http://open.salon.com/blog/big_fat_trauma_queen/2010/02/20/my_baby_started_her_period/comment.

I defended BFTQ, and her post stayed on. Her second post after that got 107 ratings despite all the efforts of nanatehay, CAT, and others.

CAT viciously attacked all those who get high ratings on her last post, and I responded appropriately. nanatehay deleted my comment and now posted two words out of context

If there were any PMs sent it was from CAT to me.

YOU ARE A LIAR nantehay. You are caught in a big fat lie.
Where did I say Cat commented on any of your posts Thoth? Where did I mention personal messages? I referred to a comment you made about her on my blog, when out of your own dimness you supposed I was attacking her and figured it'd be OK to pile on.

And what "efforts" are you claiming I made regarding BFTQ? You attribute your own shitty personality traits to others Thoth, but then that's always the way with punk bitches like you.
http://open.salon.com/blog/big_fat_trauma_queen/2010/02/20/my_baby_started_her_period/comment.
The bitch is the guy that stole/hijacked my avatar--a most despicable act of dishonesty--and tried to fool OS readers. When he stole my avatar that made him my bitch forever.
Please, please, please you two, stop fighting on my blog. Do it for the children.
Ahem... I'm still waiting for cookie prices.

Sorry to Hijack ...
I'm still waiting on a price quote too Larry.
That link didn't work Thoth. And I see you're still regurgitating comments you've already made elsewhere. I will admit, this newest one is slightly less insipid than your usual fare.

Speaking of lies th0ugh, are you really a doctor? I ask because you just don't seem bright enough to be one. You do have a certain reptilian cunning, but you seem distinctly subpar IQ-wise.
When have I ever said that I was a doctor; SHOW me, with dates and names; bring it. I am just a struggling writer who has entire posts calling him names and hateful jealous bitches like you fuming with hate, and telling lies about him.

Wouldn't a minion like you love to know. Wrong question, bitch; the question a thing like you should be asking is if I am just a Medical PhD or an F.R.C.S. or may be, just may be, both. Say hi to my other bitch, the thief.
You seem to have a fixation on the word "bitch." In other words, with that comment the real Thoth is showing through. But do you seriously think I'm jealous of you? Again, you're projecting your own rat-like qualities on to others. I'm not jealous of you; you just make me ill
You started it. It is right here, don't forget that in your next attack post.
"It" is right here sure enough, whatever "it" may be. Why am I not impressed?
Another cookie connection lost.
Thoth said, "The bitch is the guy that stole/hijacked my avatar--a most despicable act of dishonesty--and tried to fool OS readers."

Um, er, if you're referring to the five minutes or less when I used your avatar in the course of the avatar/ID-switching games here Saturday night, nobody on the thread would have thought for an instant that it was you...it was obviously part of the tomfoolery and it had my screen-name attached and the URL would show it was from my account. N'less, I should have kept my avatar-switching within the ranks of the people playing and I apologize for the misuse of your face.

(Perhaps also I should add: When I inquired in a PM about your background, you told me that you were a doctor and, thinking this was neutral-t0-positive info, mentioned it to Drew backstage. If I shouldn't have mentioned it, given that it's your info to divulge or not, I apologize for that too.)
Whether we have Thin Mints or not, and whether Thoth is lying about being a doctor or lying about never having claimed to be one, or both, we all need to get along; this post has cute kittens in the title for crying out loud. There's only one side to a circle after all and imagine if they held a war and nobody came and stuff. I'm half tempted to do a post in which I apologize to CrazeCzar for being such a bitch. Happy-happy OS fun time!

~group hug~
Only one side to a circle?
That's interesting Myriad. I've had people tell me similar things about Thoth's claims to MDhood. My sources are impeccable, though like any investigative journalist, er, I mean carpenter, I'm not free to divulge them.

Whirled peas and hominy forever!
Well, they're zombie kittens.
Zing! Go get him.

You know, I don't even want to read that blog entry...sounds like something I wouldn't like already.
You aren't missing much Beth. As Nana said above, it was pretty much just gibberish.
Hello you precious little mimic. Here's my imitation of "Drew-Silly":

"Awwwwk! Gibberish! Awwwwk!"



Polly wanna cracker, eh Silly?
I expected to come here and find kittens to rip on. Damn you to hell for tricking me.

Oh and "I loved this work, it was pretty, etc..etc.." *lifts up cookie cutter*
Thanks for the read Andy. And I noticed you had Drew-Silly on your blog earlier. You can always tell it from me because there's a space either side of the hyphen separating the two parts of its name. Failing that, go its blog page and look at the URL. It reads "Drew - Silly" not "Drew-Silla" Which is appropriate enough if you ask me.
Thanks Drew, just got the heads up on that from someone else. What kind of a turd clones someone? The height of lame in my not so humble authoratative opinion.
If people want to rip on someone, they should do it as a legitimate pseudonym, not some cheap knock off.

I don't delete comments so I'll leave that f*cktard on there, but I'll ignore it from now on.
I'm getting dizzy. If Art James shows up my head will explode.
Good thing Andy wasn't around LAST Saturday night...
Art James was here last Saturday night Zuma; he added a nice element of surrealism to the affair. And Myriad, I wish Andy could have made the Brides of Thoth reunion too.
If it wasn't for a blue groper smiling at me out of the feeds column I'd never have known this thread was still running - I get here to find that it's all over.
Well there goes fucking ANZUS - not that you looked like you needed any help, the rabbit ran, etc., but you might let a person know, is all I'm saying.
I would have loved the chance of a one-on-one with a revolting egyptian god.
The blue groper is a dead give away Kim, that and the cute kittens. Happy ANZAC Day!
Thanks Drew. The march was amazing. The beer afterwards even better than amazing. Riding the train home with my dad's medals still on : priceless.

Look, I want to amend something, or correct it or something : I didn't really mean to say ' revolying ' there. Words failed me. Probably the beer, whatever. What I meant to say was, ' cheap egyptian god.'
Thanks drew. Here's to it all round.
Revolting seems perfectly applicable Kim. But I'm glad it was a good day. I was sorry though to hear about the marchers in the parade at Melbourne who were run down by a truck. There were no fatalities but it's still a terrible thing.
Dru-Silla. I tried to comment just after you commented. I got dragged into the Cat Meow?
The comment stuck.
The blue line stops.
Downloads are slow.
This last effort failed.
So, O my, I went to my bog with you on my mind. You don't have to worry. I no delete Cats.
If Ya are ever married?
Wear pink windbreaker?
It might rain Cat & poodle?
Cat cook rice in splash puddle?
You get me so darn jabberwocky.
If Ya a 'kiss of death' chairwoman?
Who is the chairman in boxer briefs?
Drue-Silla is a provost at a Cat School.
That's a 'nice' and puff purr fit kindness.
You practice a rare form`lovingkindness.
I believe I understand a woman like you?
Is that really your mug-shot photograph?
No ever be chained-down and hitched up?
Serve 7- up at our imaginary first date, huh?
Burp and hop in the sack or be sad-married?
I vow to not jibber any Sunday Jabberwocky.
You never jibber Art, but that's a given. Every time I drink a 7-Up in my pink windbreaker I'll think of you.
And thoth : '... I am just a struggling writer ... '

No you're not. You're just a jerk.
That's unfair Kim; calling Thoth a jerk does a disservice to jerks everywhere.

Drew, I see Pigman-Silly has been playing over here; he's been at my blog too. Who do you think it is?
It's Czarina. She's a better liar than Thoth is, but it's definitely her.
Alas yes, it is I, CrazyCsar. You got me. I just couldn't swallow the 'fuckwad' comment you left me and had to do this. But more importantly, how many ThinMints do you want?
I thought the term used was "fucktard" .

The name is CrazeCsar not CrazyCsar.

I think you are an imposter pretending to be CrazeCsar pretending to be Drew -Silly, pretending to be Drew-Silla.
Hi Czar-Silly. Yes, I figured the fact that CrazeCzar and Drew-Silly have the same IP addy in Clementon, New Jersey wasn't just a coincidence. Put me down for a case, but only if you can get it for wholesale.
And you've got a good memory Larry. It was fucktard, not fuckwad.
Someone sent me here to mess with your blog.

You are a total ass-hole.

Go back to your pigs and do not ( something ) with humans again.
Fuck, I think.

... you ignorant fucking retard my aim is to bring civility class and honor to american culture.

I think you are a big fat liar I don't need to answer questions about my being a doctor I am an artist and a philosopher and if in my spare time I choose to write about young women lusting after narcissists in leather underwear which I later admitted were rubber but the smell after a game is much the same, then obviously you're just jealous, or out of work.

Artist philosophers are never out of work. Sometimes doctors are, when they can't lay their hands on the actual paperwork.

But anyway, you people are mean. To someone who can hear deaf people and see blind people a mile away. You should be ashamed.
My shame knows no limits Kim. I'm thinking about posting photos of my boobs in penance, that or an abject apology and a video of myself singing "Kum-Ba-Ya."
Though Thoth's a pariah to some, he still has legions of fans, of the sort of OSer who tend to gush extravagantly over each other's posts in the expectation that they'll be gushed over in turn. It's not a pretty thing to watch.

And please Padraig, only delete your poems if they're horrible;)