Linda Seccaspina

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JUNE 24, 2011 9:57AM

Will Japanese Virtual Performers Hurt the Music Industry?

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 Linda has sadly left Open Salon- she now blogs here..

Never ever forget how much I love you.

 

 

 

I love the Japanese and all their innovations, but are their virtual music stars too much for the music industry? Their first virtual pop star was Hatsune Miku, who is actually a hologram performs to screaming fans across the country in sold-out arenas. Even in the United States her concert in San Francisco was sold out last year and I for one wish I had been there.


 

                              ahata

 

A huge hit in Asia is a J-Pop band called AKB48 that actually has 61 female members. The 61 performers are divided into four groups and the remainders are called "the trainees". Each year the Japanese “superfans” vote on which member of the group is the most popular in a televised awards show. Could we have done that with The Osmonds here in America- and who would have won?

When the bottom girl on the singing pole Aimi Eguchi appeared in a candy commercial soon after joining AKB48, it suddenly raised a red flag with the fans. Usually only the most popular girls get to do commercials and Eguchi was still a “research student” on the singing team. Suddenly the fans started asking themselves questions and wondered if the wool was being pulled over their eyes.


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In a Walt Disney moment, the management finally agreed that the fans were right. Eguchi was not a real girl and was much like Simone from the movie of the same name. She was actually a digital composite with facial features from the six other members’ faces in the group.

I then ask myself if this is why Britney Spears moves like a robot and lip- synchs to every song. Does Spears have the same 150 gigabytes of memory too; or is it less? Can we create a real Astro-Boy next please and what will Lady Gaga do with this new information?



                        alootl

 

If digital musicians become the norm there will be no more expensive tours that we cannot afford due to high salaries and crew. There will also be no more drug or scandalous problems either. If they start to tumble they can be fixed in a geek tingling minute.

Can you imagine the possibilities of American Idol if all they have to do is tear them down and then build them back up each week? The music industry will suddenly become exactly the same as the William Gibson book Idoru. If this technology had become available years ago maybe Betty Crocker and Nancy Drew would not have been just figments of our imagination.

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I bumped into the first virtual icon Max Headroom at the Ottawa, Ontario airport years ago and I was so relieved he was just an ordinary man named Matt Frewer. I don’t know how I would have handled a conversation with him beside the luggage turnstile with all that cyber stuttering. That would have been incredibly and virtually as Max Headroom would say "nnnnnnnnnnuts"!



 

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"I started looking at small companies that were running a sort of virtual reality cottage industry: I had imagined that I would just put on a helmet and be somewhere else - that's your dream of what it's going to be.
Thomas Dolby"

 

 

Text: Linda Seccaspina

Photos: Linda ( some of her Japanese fashion books) and Google

 Article first published as Will Japanese Virtual Performers Hurt the Music Industry? on Technorati.

 

 

Watch the video  commercial showing how they made Aimi.

61 seconds begins the process- just amazing!

The second video is of the popular hologram star and the third video is what is happening to the oldies but goodies.

 

 

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Anyone who does not believe that this might happen is wrong. I sell music on the internet and the average ages that buys music (cd’s lp’s) now is 30-60 years-old. The younger generations download it all and unless Franki Valli is mixed into a techno song most are not interested.
Now now...plenty of people are interested in things other than techno. ;-)

I guess this is the ultimate in manufactured performers...look at the Monkees, the Archies, heck - a huge percentage of bubblegum pop was done by about a dozen guys under a range of band names. But I couldn't see this live...just offends my sensibilities too much.
All this technology makes me want to run off the grid and up to the mountains with only a song in my heart. Now I'm going to put the Calas CD
Linda, we definitely need to keep real people performing real music!! What is this world coming to???? The music business is tough enough as it is already exists and society should not make it even harder for those musicians who spend their lives songwriting and performing!
Linda, some music historian will find a parallel between J-pop and the development of American jazz.
Hey! Leave my Monkees alone! They still put on a hell of a concert, read my last blog. Aside from that, surely real people want to have someone flesh and blood to rip the hair out of?
Rugrat: we talked about this last night and you know that we talked about the insanity of me jumping a bus to LA to see the hologram star at one of the Cons down there in July. BUT it was sold out in what??
45 minutes???? This is the new music generation and I am OLDDDDD but new things make me want to buy music.

Elijah: We have about 5000 old school music records and CDS.. well you would die for some of the classical and opera we have. BUT I am always looking for something new..:)
Designanator: Scary thoughts.. but Rugrat is right with the manufactured and dubbed music now.

Catherine: I have a huge fan of J- POP for years.. I must look up the jazz reference though.:)

Peggy: I knew when I read Rugrats comment you'd have a comment hahaha
you're spot on re: this. r.
Funny comment of the day except for the part where it's not funny at all: "If digital musicians become the norm there will be no more expensive tours that we cannot afford."
It's true what rugrat says, that there have always been "manufactured" pop performers, but yeah this takes it to a whole new level.

I imagine that this will put a dent in the ability of actual performers to make a living. But someone still has to write the songs, right? Maybe?
Wow A HOLOGRAM rock star. I love it! You must come into Second Life and see the music scene there. It is amazing how alive Avatars can be and the future is Techno as long as no one pulls the plug. Then it is back to the reed flutes. By combining everything from the past we stumble into the future. great post!!
This is sort of like what I wrote about last night. Devaluation through de-qualification. Its a marxian economic concept, a way in which business tries to minimize labor costs. The rock band "Gorrilaz" is an example of this.
Jon: It is very scary when you think of it.

Alsoknownas: I dont know about you but I used to go to tons of concerts. I cannot afford it now even if it is the ticket people making most of the money. With all the money Lady Gaga makes- she lost over 3 million dollars on her last tour which was made up later on with personal endorsements.

Jeanette; as with everything things evolve sad to say. BUT, this hologram does have a live band and yeah someone has to write the songs. Thank God for that. But this Hatsune Miku is HUGE. Kids today want fast fresh and new.. It sucks.
Wow, how do you find all these fabulous stories. This is surely EP material. Now singers will go the way of elevator operators.
I can see a world of pushing buttons to make your own favorite singer and designing their voice.
Why do we need people again?
rated with love
Zanelle: Of anyone I thought of you when i wrote this. IfI had a lot of money I wold have down us down to LA and bought scalped tickets for her concert. :)
Second life is not too far off..

RW: If you look at the magazine cover business they used to use high priced models. NOW 90% of the covers are celebrities. They get a deal on them for exposure. And yes I thought of the Gorrilaz. Was it the MTV awards Madonna sang with them a few years ago?
Yup. I'm totally amazed at how pervasive this tactic is. It is infecting all industries, even the entertainment industry. Creepy doesn't even begin to describe it.

I sense the beginings of a new, transcendent form of economic and class-based political consciousness emerging. If only we could all unite, somehow, to fight the tide...
Romantic Poetess.. : Even though it scares me I think you Zanelle and I wold be mesmerized by this hologram singer..:) But I can see your button idea coming. You should patent it..:)

RW: I like you fight for things. Why does no one listen?
In economics, various "things" or traits held by workers are commodified and bought and sold upon the marketplace. To lower these costs, capitalists try to "devalue through de-qualification."

With manual laborers, they de-valued the costs through developing machinery, like the spinning jenny, the reaper, combine harvesters and the like.

With skilled craftsmen, like carpenters and brickmasons, craftsmen and the life, industrialization replaced them, because large machines could do the job cheaper.

With knowledge based jobs, like lawyers, doctors, accountants and the like, computers and outsourcing are replacing many of their commodified skills.

With the music and fashion industry, the commodified skill is the "ability to sing," and "beauty." These are the commodities, perhaps also the ability to "perform." Now, if you can devalue these through, for example, having actors appear on covers of magazines, or having computer composite folks do the work behind the scenes, you have engaged in the same process.

It is the nature of the capitalist system. Reality and stability are irrelevant. Profit is everything and it will cause instability, chaos and wierdness if it allows profit. Often, the two go hand and hand.
But Gorillaz is actually real people, isn't it? I mean, aside from the cartoon characters that are on stage. I think it was the guy from Blur who started it. I would consider them as being "alter egos", rather than totally virtual performers.
And it causes a process caused "Alienation," which is like Plato's metaphor of the cave, in a way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx's_theory_of_alienation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave
Jeanette, yes. You are correct. But that is but one transitionary step in this direction, correct?
I have enjoyed the music scene in Second Life. In 2009 I spent most of the year in the evenings after work being assistant to a singer. In real life she was a Singapore-born woman living in UK who was a singer in real life in Singapore in the 1980s and 1990s. Second Life gave her a chance to sing again, and she has been singing again in real life the past two years. In SL she is Phoe Nix and this is her facebook http://www.facebook.com/phoenixj
And the idea of alienation and Plato's metaphor of the cave, these are very much related to the philosophical ideas behind the movie, "The Matrix."
Sixty-one members in a vocal group? Isn't that called a choir? I'm sorry but I just don't get the whole Japanese music scene. Whatever happened to a guy sitting on a stool in front of a mic and singing a song?
Japanese virtual performers have as much validity as Milly Vanilly. The difference is that they are up front frauds. Call me naive, but I don't think this will have a serious impact on the industry by itself. The industry is already in serious trouble and this won't help. As for its lasting value? None. R
Rw, it's hard to say. I think a lot of musicians are just going to take advantage of the technology to explore the possibilities. I don't know that we'll ever get to the point where we can completely artificially synthesize all of the writing, performing and arranging aspects of music. Certain roles will be eliminated (just as when synthesizers largely eliminated the need to hire string or horn sections for recording sessions.)

I guess we just have to see where all this goes. (And as someone who is married to a person who works in the recording industry, I will be watching with interest.)
Wow, I am dumbstuck.
Great post. Now that practically anything can be fixed in computers, a lot of pop artists are an illusion anyway. This one's just more honest in a way. Still, it's unsettling
Thank God you are for real.
If there was a hologram of Pink Floyd or Zeppelin, would people pay to see them, or it? No way, please tell me people aren't paying to see holograms?
This story is beyond weird. Makes me wonder what the Japanese will think of next, as inventive as their culture is. Maybe I'm just an old funny duddy, but I'll take PR probs and drug abuse from my rock stars any day to see their humanity.
***Okay pardon the look of the videos.. OS is slow and I am not going to clean it up until it speeds up. If you look at the (Pilooski re-edit) of the Four Seasons song.. this is where old music is headed.
RW_ whatever makes money goes. In this case they just have to pack her up in a hard drive.

Jeanette: Gorrillaz is a start. I can really see it expanding.. Maybe dead rock stars. Look at the 4 seasons song I just put up..

Torman: If they can they will

Rodney: I have two sons.. they do not buy music they download it. They are like other kids today: Fickle in their music. You are either in or out. No respect for classics. if they do they dub it in a song.

Joisey: I started selling anime when it was kind of innocent. It has gone to a place I never thought it would. It had to keep evolving to stay alive.

Jeanette: We just cannot seem to control things. When I had my store styles were in and out within a few weeks.
Sheila: It is mindboggling

Yserba: If no one knows my friend yserba was a very famous engineer in the bay area punk rock scene and more. Now don't you make music with computer programs? It is really scary..

Mhold.. mayeb today I am..
Scanner: yes!! when they die they will become holograms.. Look at the Sinatra duets that came out on video.

Rei: LOl now that killed me
Yserba's "unsettling" is a good word for how I feel about this...those childish clothes and personas, the volunteer uniformity while seeking to be unique, the lack of any womanliness, the strange doll-like qualities...
Oh, the music.
I was stuck with the Japanese fashions.
The music....I don't know.
But I would feel like an utter fool at a concert dancing, adoring music, shouting for an encore... to a hologram.
Here's how old I am, I regretted when ...
" video killed the radio star."
You have sufficiently freaked me out this morning! I had no idea about this hologram performer. Bizarre. I guess it would be like going to watch a concert movie film...sort of. That is the weirdest thing! And I loved the video of how they made a composite girl. Wow.
JustThinking: Its called The Lolita Look and it's hot. I collect all those Japanese fashion books called Fruit. I love the styles. I have played the holograms video at least 20 times in amazement.

Scarlett: When I was barely a teen I remember the owner of a diner telling my father the transistor radio business was killing the money going into his jukeboxes. My father laughed and said it would not last..

Schmoopie: I bet they do more. The kids seem to control everything.
Linda, amazing as this virtual star is, I am no longer surprised. What is happening in my end of music is "Virtual Instruments" - They are completing the process that synthesizers started, of putting the real ones out of business. What's changed in just the last six months is that they REALLY sound as good as the real thing. Crazy.
L Muse: the only thing scares me.. more people out of work. No more jam sessions??:(
Now this is interesting, Linda. I wonder, though, what U.S. performers think. I read that record sales are no longer a reliable source of income; they have to tour, and even that is showing a drop in attendance. Maybe virtual performances is the logical outcome of that situation? And Frankie Valli!--back in the day, his "Walk Like a Man" was an anthem among the less than gender confident young males I hung with--though the falsetto bothered us some.
I was fortunate enough to visit Japan many years ago. I was amazed at how much further they are technologically and fashion wise. I saw picture frame sized televisions as well as huge wall televisions years before they were even heard of here. The fashions were three to four years ahead of us. They are a highly intelligent, motivated people. It should be interesting to see how long it will take for this type of performing to come here.
NeilPaul: I love the Japanese and do not find them creepy at all. Maybe Im creepy..:)

Jerry: Lady Gaga lost 3 million on her last sold out tour. It goes to show you. But at least she got money back on personal endorsements.As for Valli I hope they got royalties for that song.
Stores make a little over a buck for each cd sold.

Chrissie: It started with holograms in videos.. who knows where its going to go. I used to buy Hello Kitty stuff from Japan. It was dirt cheap.
Guess I'm out of the loop - and I guess that's a good thing. I'll stick to the real stuff.
Guess I'm out of the loop - and I guess that's a good thing. I'll stick to the real stuff.
Those girls in the first video aren't real???? Wow, good thing you're reporting on this.
This is so tied to anime. I hope you like Japanese animation. It really is such an art form. Many of the kids in our high school collected manga.
Trilogy!! HI- glad to see you:) sometimes it is good to be out of the loop.:)
Hayley.. if you look at the video the one on the left is the one they created and they show what they took from the real girls on the right.

Eve: I have always loved animee and my first movie was Akira! I used to go around screaming TETSUO!!! :)
I've worked in video and TV since the 1970s and am amazed at what people accept/reject as "real." I have no problem with J-pop, music is just another changeable medium. People are surrounded by plastic images every day and are not aware of it -- from Gene Autry ("Rudolph" was written for a holiday campaign for Macy's reindeer character, 1934) to 90 per cent of contemporary "theme parks." This just seems like a logical next step in marketing. Good article, Linda, thanks! Rated.
I don't exactly know how to feel about this...but I wish I were half as cute as one of the real-life members of AKB48!
I know Bellemeade there is so much out there that is not real it would boggle people's minds..
Alysa: You are!!! You can be our OS's honorary AKB48 member..:)
Can we set up an international tribunal with the legal power to replace unsatisfactory human beings with virtual ones? I have a list.
Arthur: You start it and I will blog it all over the nation..:)
Gee, I was hoping to be able to write a nice comment about your post...but my hologram is in Cleveland for the weekend.
R
Stev katz bada bing hahaha
Wow, Linda! So nice to see someone on OS who's into JPop and the gothloli scene. While I've heard about the virtual idol stars and gothloli fashion, I'm more into anime and manga. I've been meaning to start blogging about my interests but I've been hesitant because it seems so few people on OS are interested or into it. But now I might have to actually do it!

As for hologram music stars, I'm not too worried. It seems like more of a fad to me and one the Japanese seem to enjoy more. So I wouldn't worry, there will always be a demand for real life performers and people who want to fill that demand.
Rin: I may be old but I am not dead yet and I love anything that is new and exciting. I find the Japanese culture and their arts to be that.:)
But think about it, we could have any music star singing with other music stars, past, present or future?

YA' GALLNUM BA KINKEE POO!! :D

Rated for the William Gibson reference too. 'HACK THE GIBSON!!!' :D

~wanders off to do some designer drugs and play techno till the sun comes up~
Leave it to the Japanese! I think there is a lot of room for different genres. It might be kinda cool to see a hologram. I remember people being offended by disco in the 80's since it temporarily replaced live bands. The cycle continues, but long live the Telluride Blue Grass Festival!!!
R
I have mixed feelings about the digital age. I want to believe original artists and digital can coexist. I haven't been a fan of rap music (didn't think it was real talent)...until my son began writing his own lyrics and mixing his own music by way of a computer. I mean, I couldn't do it and I suppose it takes some sort of talent to manipulate software. I do appreciate he doesn't "rap" profanity and his lyrics are about real life experiences. Good points, though!
That is the craziest thing . I never heard about it !What the heck will they think of next.Great videos .Thanks for the time putting them with your blog! xoxo
I d bet you're in canada now. Keep me posted about the offspring
Steve Katz and Scarlet Sumac have said what I wish I had thought up. Have a great 4th of July Linda..
Glad I found you, Linda. Your hideaway is ingenious, like everything you do.
You have NO idea how much I miss you all.
HUGGGGGG
si,ha, brilliant as always.

can you imagine the possibilities of American Idol if all they have to do is tear them down and then build them back up each week? The music industry will suddenly become exactly the same as the William Gibson book Idoru. If this technology had become available years ago maybe Betty Crocker and Nancy Drew would not have been just figments of our imagination.


betty crock and crock or wok fulla yummy stuff was no figment.
twas me mum. til she went off to cirrhosis heaven.
eleanor, dear gal. loved her like a mom
then a sister.

um,
gibson bought a car today, ia m told.

i say, good.

he needs
"another one like he needs a hole in his head"ha

eleanor.

all along the watchtower, by that fine dead Negro man
jimi
is
on.


damn jew sob who wrote it is still at large, i hear.

he has NO ALIBI!

not there? then where, bob?
in a tanning salon of the soul
or a sumptuous palace of personal sarah?

ach, no hangin with pettty and the dead,ha

damn dylan.
as much a thorn in my crown as that elusive art james.

mercurial. needing ha
postmodern shrinking down
to supersizee
James my love,
Your words are important to the world. NEVER EVER FORGET THAT
HUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Love the gay sign. I have a gay nephew. Doesn't everyone have a relative or friend who's gay? Why would you want to reject him or her?
Leon I so agree.. Thanks for re ading..:)
Different picture? Look like Claire Danes

Hope everything is well ya know. Looking forward to your4 return.... you betcha
I loved William Gibson's novel Idoru about a guy falling in love with a virtual singer and marrying her...which he wrote, what, fifteen years ago? Now if only Hollywood would make a movie about that, and cut out the overblown blow-up set-pieces about talking car-toys. And I shall follow you anywhere you blog, hon, I mean that.


But not in a creepy way.

Rated.
Thanks to all that have commented since I left.
I have not stop blogging nor ever will.
Someone just sent me this and I had to giggle:

This is what trig said back in 2010 to one of your responses on his blog.


"Linda Sesscapina I have no clue how you manage to always read and comment at not only my blog, but everyone's. You're a sweetheart to the ninth degree. Much appreciated.."

How or why did I do it? I did it with love as I care about people a lot. That's all - no other reason.
Ciao baby..:)
In losing you, Linda, OS has developed a hole in the heart. Sad, that.
leon,
If you only knew what a hole in my heart I have..:(
Linda, you never struck me as yeller.
ahhh my sweet leon .. I am a whiner here in Canada
Linda, I hope your weather's more livable than ours here in the Shallow South of Canada.
Leon are you kidding me.. we are under THE HEAT DOME hahaha
How often does Canada need to be defrosted, Linda?
Leon it has been between 92-117 here the whole time
Hope you're happy, Linda, amid alien bloggers.
I seriously doubt the entertainment industry in this country would replace actual performers with software they can't molest.
Leon.. I miss everyone very much.
Snoreville: I went to a puppet festival today.. Puppets too?