I believe in creating different energy sources so my family supports Canada by investing in Alberta tar sands. Most environmentalists would scold them for supporting such a dirty energy but I know quite a few of my son's friends that have left Ontario to work in the tar sands of Alberta. So, we support Canadian jobs and the future of alternative energy. Today the U.S. State Department announced a decision to deny TransCanada's current application for a proposed Keystone XL pipeline.
My American friends were thrilled with the decision and after spending a lot of time researching media outlets such as Huffington Post etc. so was the rest of the US population. On the other side of the border on Canadian sites such as CBC and Yahoo Canada 90% were mocking the United States decision, and of course some were thrilled that Prime Minister Harper did not get his way.
"Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird said after a speech in Toronto that the Canadian government strongly backs Keystone XL, but wouldn't go further until an official announcement from the U.S.
"It’s a challenging political hot potato south of the border, but obviously we were very disappointed with the decision in December [to delay approval]," Baird said."

Our two countries are similar in thoughts but when it comes down to the nitty gritty we both stand steadfast for what we believe in. So after reading all the comments I decided to do a parody with them and below we have two friends Sam, the American and Stephen, the Canadian discussing the pipeline decision.
Sam: "So I heard your pipeline got shot down Steve. That pipeline goes over a major source of fresh water for several different states. And from all of the photos I've seen, it's right out there in the open; not underground where it would be moderately safe. You might as well paint a great big target on it and say "Terrorists, please attack this."
Steve: "Sam, Canadian petroleum should be refined in Canada to produce employment solely for our country. We need jobs here, not Texas. As a Canadian, I agree Obama made an excellent decision. We will build a Canadian pipeline to a Canadian port, so its all over for the Greens in the U.S.A. and Robert Redford can stick his head up his butt! My hope is that we ship 100% of our oil through that pipeline or maybe build 2 or 3. We will have the oil, money and the will!
Sam: "You know Steve, the tar sands pipelines are already leaking in America. The first Keystone pipeline is only one year old, and has already leaked 14 times. Migrating ducks have been poisoned by tar sands oil that has permeated waterways. Whooping cranes, an extremely endangered species, migrate along the proposed route of the new Keystone pipeline. Oil and water don't mix. If we continue deep water offshore drilling in the Gulf and construct transcontinental oil pipelines, we will destroy fragile wildlife and the economic activities that rely on healthy ecosystem."
Steve: "Sam, it was still an idiotic move! A commodity the U.S normally goes to war over, but this pipeline apparently has seemed to cross some line? We'd rather sell our oil to you, but I guess we'll just have to refine our oil here and sell it to China! I hope to dear God that this will be a watershed moment for Canada to finally move away from crumbling America and chart out its own economic course."
Sam: "Don't you get it Stephen? The estimate of created jobs is inflated, and unsubstantiated. Whatever jobs will dry up after installation therefore leaving only a handful of jobs left to monitor the line. What will be left is a very real terrorist target, very real pollution of ground water vital to 1.5 million people, and farmland jeopardized. What are we gonna do Stephen, we really don't have any ideas about future energy sources!"
Stephen: "Let’s imagine we care about jobs and support the pipeline and then pretend we care about unions too."
Sam: "They'll never go for it."
Stephen: "They voted for Bush."
Sam: "Good point!"
Stephen: "Good for Obama, gutsy and unafraid of making an error in decision. Now let's keep the oil in Canada process it here and then sell the finished product. More jobs for all sectors of Canadian workers and we have all the benefits of our oil.
First of all the media gives the impression this is a all-or-nothing issue, which is untrue. Canada already has a pipeline to the Gulf, this would just be another, bigger pipeline. This pipeline is for Amercian Oil Companies to ship crude oil to their refineries, with little benefit to Canada other than a small royalty fee paid to Alberta. Maybe it is time to let the Americans freeze in the dark, as Albertans once said to eastern Canada."
Sam: "Yup, those evil Canadians will tear, shred, and mutilate this beautiful world no matter what we well-meaning Americans decide!"
(laughter)
Sam: "Honestly Stephen, tar sand oil is the dirtiest fuel produced in the world. The Canadians are planning on generating 400 million gallons of highly contaminated water and sludge each day in order to get it out of the ground. The pipeline carrying the tar sand oil through the US would cross six states with many major rivers and aquifers. There is a history of large leaks and breaks with this acidic, dirty oil. If the Canadians want to sell this crap, they should build their own pipeline."
Stephen: "My wife has a big map of all of the pipelines in North America hanging behind her desk. There is already a keystone pipeline coming down from Canada along with 4 others. There is no reason that this pipeline has to take a different route than all of the others. Just run it along the same path as the others and there is no problem."
Sam: "Did you know that Rail transport is set to make a killing by picking up the slack of the "stalled” XL pipeline. Over 20,000 new crude oil tanker cars have already been ordered to beef up volumes heading south and west. The added benefit is that the bitumen will not have to be diluted in order to ship it this way, and other successful Canadian railroad companies like CN and CP will profit. Those vehemently opposed to the pipeline have no idea that the safest way to transport crude, a pipeline, will now be supplemented by a less safe method."
Stephen: "We have many thousands of US citizens working in our Alberta oil patches. More Americans than there are Albertans working in there. On the other hand they show up as employed in the Canadian stats making our Prime Minister Harper (a Redford look alike) look like a winner to the public. Honestly we could load up a fleet of buses and move all these people back into the US and see if their attitudes change."
Sam: "We can't seem to control Canada anymore than we should have been able to control the Sioux."
Stephen: "Ahh Sam, let's bring the buffalo back and then we can all walk and talk as we burn buffalo dung for heat in the winter."
(laughter)
Sam: "I will ask you one thing Stephen and maybe you know the answer! How in the hell did the Hoover Dam ever get built?"
The End
"CANADA SEEKS ALTERNATIVE ROUTE FOR KEYSTONE XL PIPELINE"
"On Tuesday, an independent federal panel in Canada will begin its review of a proposed western pipeline that would carry the oil from Alberta to the coast of British Columbia. From British Columbia, the oil would be shipped on tankers to oil-hungry China."
CBC News January 18th, 2012
Linda Seccaspina 2012
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This was a superb blog, Linda. Both sides presented with passion. The issue comes down to risk. And it isn't worth it.
It goes on the Canadian side tomorrow hahaha
But Marsha was happy that I presented both sides so that's great.
Now I feel better and may resume my daily activities hahaha
Thank you!
Thanks Linda.
The actual U.S. decision had nothing to do with relative merits/problems about this project.
The Boner made his previous threat about the pipeline by making the time limit a condition of allowing the Federal Governement to make timely payments on debt late last year. For once the Prez's posse called the bluff. The Boner and his posse will have some explaining to do to their Oil Company paymasters. I would like to be a fly on the wall and hear that conversation.
It was a pissing contest indeed and I was floored
The whole rail thing was like Holy cow.. here we come and yeah Canada said' see ya around; hahaha
Its a good thing you dont live with me hahah
Scanner: living with a Sierra Club employee I do agree with you about the fracking.:)
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Michelle- In Canada no one really cares except the heads to be. Here it is another matter.
Most Canadians feel the same way I do about medical issues below the border. But you knew that.:)
I just wanted to present both sides on this matter as there are two sides to every story. Thanks for commenting!
Bleue.. you are so sweet. thank you
The tars sands must be stopped! They create 82% more carbon emissions than conventional oil. They waste and pollute the water, poison the air and destroy boreal forests. As James Hansen the leading climatologist says, if the tar sands and Keystone project go through, it's game over for the planet due to global warming and increased fossil fuel emissions.
Why not spend the money earmarked for these projects on a new energy grid, alternative energy, conservation and efficiency?
As far as jobs that are created by the tar sands, fuck em. I don't want jobs that kill the planet and ruin the future for my kid. The Nazi's who ran the ovens probably said, "Yeah, I know burning jews is wrong , but I gotta make a living."
Alaskan: Yes, I read that the aboriginals are going to put up some resistance, but in the end money talks.
Saskatchewan is now getting into the tar sands business as they saw how well Alberta did and as I said Canada has dropped out of Kyoto. What a world we live in.
Sorry for the lame joke. This was hilarious.
Migeula: As some in my close knit group have told me." I have a mouth on me"..:)
Margaret: I swear if I brought you to a local Canadian Tim Horton's you would have enough fodder for blogs for a year. :) We Canadians are quite humourous at times.:)
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They're good revenue producers for governments through taxes and to a certain point generate employment, just NIMBY (trans: not in my back yard). Find a desolate spot and slime away....
However, the man I voted for has taken a cautious approach and appreciates putting people first. A recently retired air controller and alas dearly departed fishing buddy of mine (knew every engineer and so forth) knew two things about this country, 1) mess or horse around with his wife, family, friends, country-consider yourself a dead motherflicker. 2) & vote.
Also, it should be no secret that this is the fourth year of a Presidential cycle and Congress has done nothing other than obstruct with the obstinate recklessness of self-preservation.
The ill-advised obstructionist 'goal' is hurtful, shameful and frankly not American. Clearly anti-humanist.
As an example Governor Walker of WI got off on the foot as he and his propagandists refused funding for so-called high speed rail at the expense of (minimally) 5,000 life, family sustaining jobs; the WI GOP with its infusion of 'outside' coin literally dropped an anvil on its foot with that one.
My all too brief conclusion at the moment is that such a pipeline might be a precursor for leeching the Great Lakes.
I just don't know, LS, but this food for thought of your hard work is
important and appreciated.
Jim
Hayley: ain;t it the truth? We do not like something? We go to war.
Creekend: employment would be so temporary
JP: They block everything (GOP) and expect for the country to proceed. Then the GOP bring in their proposals and expect it to go through. Nothing but children playing a selfish game at the expense of the people. I never even thought about the Great Lakes. Excellent point!
I just had to do this.. JUST had too. Because you know what? It is going to come back again.
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Belinda: Seriously.. I am not like other folk.. You can post as much info etc as you want. I love to read and learn so many many thanks!!
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I so appreciate this, Linda, you, Sam and Stephen have made this quite clear now. What kept ringing in my mind all night is this: We're willing to go to war over mid-east oil, supposedly, but won't accept local peacefully offered oil from our allied neighbors???
The environmental risks can be dealt with, dead soldiers and civilians are a harder fix for sure...
That said it all for me Just Thinking..
Good comment.
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Lezlie