By way of introduction, some of you may not know that I am emma peel. I blogged about why I created this alias a couple of days ago. A few have PMed me thinking that I am someone imitating her. That is not the case. This alias came about because despite weeks of trying everything, including using five different browsers and several computers at home and elsewhere, I could not sign in to OS. I have not been able to sign in for the past six days even though I keep trying. I cannot retrieve my posts, anything in my mailbox (which is the most frustrating part), or my profile information. Although like many here I could have chosen a completely different identity and kept it secret, that is not my style.
OS has changed greatly in some ways since I arrived in December of 2008, and in other respects it is exactly the same. I will be commenting on some of the changes.
1. The first thing that has changed is that there are many more bloggers here now. Please do not project that statement to mean that this is a bad thing, or that it is about you personally. It is a simple fact. With more people have come some new, unofficial rules. To paraphrase the song, some of them confuse me, some of them amuse me, some of them abuse me.
2. One of the strangest unofficial rules, at least to my mind, on a site that purports to be “for writers, photographers, artists of any stripe,” (you can look it up) is that no one is allowed to mention their professional background if they are a writer by profession. You can be a carpenter, a teacher, a cop, a social worker, a CEO, a painter or a photographer, but you cannot ever say that you are a writer and mention your professional accomplishments. That is considered crass “self promotion” and subject to a wide variety of personal insults and blogs mocking you. You can be a carpenter and write posts about the decks you build and even show photographs of them, and that is OK. You can share your paintings and your jewellery, your gourmet cuisine and even your pets, but you must never admit that you’ve ever earned a dime from writing. That is being condescending and a deliberate, shameful personal putdown of every other blogger at OS. Who do you think you are anyway? You’re nothing but a hack who happened to get lucky, and anyway, you’re boring. Only people who write in their spare time are interesting or talented. Needless to say, I am still trying to wrap my head around this rule on a site that allegedly welcomes “writers…of any stripe.”
Example: in a thread where I was being pilloried because I posted about an awful class I had – I teach writing and yes, I know that I’m not supposed to mention that either – someone commented that I was a terrible teacher and that all of my students hated me. That would be at least 4,000 students in 10 years by my count. I’m not sure how the commenter knew that, but I have learned not to question those here who know everything, seemingly by osmosis. I responded by saying that I had, in fact, received more than one teaching award from students at different schools. I was then told that I “boasted” and “bragged” constantly about what a great teacher I was. You see where this is going. Do not make the same mistakes as me. I could be a great teacher and say so often, I could even send PMs to other bloggers correcting their spelling and grammar as some here do, but because I am also a writer by profession, any mention of it even peripherally is verboten. Are you with me so far? I know it’s confusing.
You must also never, ever mention or even allude to the fact that you may have earned your living doing something that involved celebrities, politicians, or other well-known people. That is namedropping, and it is forbidden for all but THOSE WHO MAKE THE RULES.
3. Of course, there are exceptions to the last rule. Some writers at OS are permitted to post frequently about their professional writing activities whether they be books or magazine stories they’ve written, book tours, their speaking engagements and school tours, their celebrity media interviews -- whatever the gamut their writing career entails. These are mostly bloggers who write only about themselves and their careers, rarely comment on others’ blogs, and yet receive much adulation here. I cannot tell you how to become the exception; that is a secret known only to THOSE who make the next rule.
4. Who is allowed to blog at OS and who is not. It’s natural to assume that the very name Open Salon means this publishing platform is all-inclusive. That is not the case. Oh, anyone can join and gain a small following if they put in the effort, but unless you agree to be part of a mutual admiration society, you will not be accepted en masse. That many people here have demanding jobs and lives outside of OS is of no account. To gain favour among THOSE WHO MAKE THE RULES, some of whom are retired and have plenty of free time, you must play the game their way, no matter how petty. That means you’d better make the time when you’re newish to frequently compliment each member of the society every time they post, deserved or not. It is the rate and praise that counts, not the content. If you ever forget that, you will be reminded a few times, then eventually shunned. And if you ever leave for any reason and decide to come back without sucking up, you will be told in no uncertain terms that you are not welcome. THEY have decreed it so.
5. Next is the rule around multiple identities, or alters as some call them. Although it is against the published TOS, many bloggers have multiple ids. Some are open about it, many more are not. I’ve now joined this club because of the technical difficulties I mentioned at the top of this post, but I would not have done it otherwise. The proliferation of multiple ids, often used irresponsibly – which were much less common when I joined -- have led to a breakdown of trust at OS. Once gone, that fragile but necessary social glue is almost impossible to re-create. These bloggers create ids to lavish praise on themselves on their posts to get into the feed; others use them to pit friends or enemies against one another. It’s the oldest ploy in the information game: if you want to find out who you can trust, put out some misinformation and wait to see who brings it back. You might be surprised. People with multiple alters who are not bona fide members of the mutual admiration society are often “called out” for using them. Yet many members of THOSE WHO MAKE THE RULES also use multiple ids and well, that appears to be just fine and dandy.
6. The final rule decreed by THOSE WHO MAKE THE RULES is that no one who has made a living from writing, no matter how paltry or brief, is ever allowed under any circumstances to share any of their hard-won experience, knowledge, tips, tricks of the trade, or advice. I’m sure any reader who’s made it this far can guess what happens to those professionals who breach this most sacred tenet. Every negative trait known to humanity – arrogance, condescension, meanness, spite, envy, accusations of “lording it over” people who are subsequently terrified to write (if only that were true), being held responsible for anyone who isn’t writing and the quality of their writing if they are -- oh the immense negative power of such individuals is as awe inspiring as the outrage of THOSE WHO MAKE THE RULES. Even the most innocent of suggestions is interpreted as demeaning, holier-than-thou criticism and results in a virtual lynching.
Should that person dare to protest such a fantastic over-reaction to what is essentially a good deed, they are labeled once and forever as “bitter,” “failures,” and lacking a “sense of humour” -- because you know being dogpiled on and called a cunt and all the other mud-slinging monikers I’ve already mentioned -- is just so damned funny. Only people who have never been tested in the marketplace and never learned anything and never want to learn anything about writing could possibly be good writers. It’s that easy. Ignorance is bliss. Anybody can be a writer. It takes less time than learning how to hammer in a nail and call yourself a carpenter. Most things in life are hard and require some degree of training and application of effort, but writing is the one exception. And don’t you forget it.


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And please clarify: Who exactly are THOSE WHO MAKE THE RULES? This would be helpful for those of us who do not make the rules. Calling it a night as well, so I will not demand an immediate response.
While you may not think it inflammatory to tell a bunch of bloggers how to blog, by and large the others disagree. While you may not think Caitlin was telling anyone how to blog, by and large the others disagree with that, too. It isn't about comprehension, either, I don't think.
It's about naivete. Caitlin's.
I'm wondering if it's as simple as the difference between blogging and writing. I think there is a difference.
Writing is something you do for a living, and to succeed you must adhere to certain rules.
Blogging is what people on OS do. It might be a fine essay or a string of photographs, a recipe or a poem, but it isn't "writing" - because here there are no rules, despite what you say, other than opinions which change each day according to the direction of the wind. Fickle wind.
I wonder what your thoughts are on the difference, between blogging and writing.
Maybe that's what some of this is about : employment.
I see what you mean about blogging/writing.
I guess I was referring to journalism in particular, as my example of "writing," wherein the rules are rarely broken, or if they are, it's high-risk because your income depends on it.
Novels, short stories etc., I'm aware have boundaries being pushed from the inside all over the world, and thank goodness, but they still need to sell. Not even stratospherically, but they need to sell.
I see blogs as a kind of petri dish - new cultures forming and changing alongside their commercial counterpart - experimental, oftentimes fruitless but every now and then a breakthrough. Ultimately the breakthroughs become mainstream.
I agree : bloggers have to be good. Those who are frustrated by the commercial imperative have to be even better. As long as everything continues to rise toward excellence, I'm sure everyone's in agreement. Bearing in mind that most people on OS are here to just connect.
Sheesh, you are a BAD teacher. 10 years, you should have had at least double that number, by my count. Heck, my 1st year biology teacher had like 3000 students him and well, he didn't even teach hardly any of them!!
;D
It's okay, I know you'll try harder next time!!
Remember, growl a lot!!!
My following of crack heads and sleep deprivation sufferers won't attack you, they may laugh in your general direction, but they aren't laughing at you, but at the invisible monkeys surrounding us all!!!
**Wanders off stage**
O. Hi Tink.
"Rules" tend to be more about what the editors/publishers want from writers than actual rules about writing. Most, but not all, professional writers are assumed to know what they're doing on that basic style level, which varies from publication to publication. I take your point about blogging, but the thing is, I don't see a whole lot of improvement in most people's blogging skills and I've been here two years. As you say, the professional writers who are bloggers have to be competitive and can't rely on a circle jerk to pay their bills, but given the largely hostile reaction at OS to any attempts to suggest how people can improve their blogging skills, I'm not very optimistic that the mainstream is rising. To me, it's seeking a level of mediocrity that is disheartening. At one time I considered sharing some tips about writing and blogging and spelling/grammar since I teach and make a living at this stuff and am constantly creating material anyway, but soon realized that I would be shit upon by all and sundry from a great height and came to my senses.
Hi Kim. I didn't see you there next to the petri dish and new life grow...oh...that's your beard. Sorry. :D
Still clueless...
General Brady doesn't rush in and call Matt a cocksucking banjo playing turd wrangler and Matt doesn't throw back, YOU....YOU.....BEAUTIFUL CANADIAN LADY IN WAIT!!!!
Well, the script writer I usually use is out, so you're getting bad Cinemax porn without the porn.
emma would get mad at me if I allowed such a scene to be re-enacted so....
What do I get on my post today?
A, I believe, a starter spammer, which I fell for and sent them $25.00!!!!!!
Damnit the post that got everyones' panties in a twist wasn't even that fire starting. It was no Dr. Amy that's for sure!!!
Do I have to bring back MY doctor, Crotchenrotz, to fan the flames of the perfect flare ups where people will actually burst into flames?
I think I shall!!!
RUN, OPEN, RUN!! FLEE INTO THE NIGHT........LORD DARKNESS IS COMING....
Teeheehee! Just kidding, anybody want a cookie?
**Wanders off, his last words on this subject at this minute, still echoing in the hallway**
emma, by the way, you have grand tastes in hallways!!
**Wanders back out**
I understand the impulse to teach, it's what I do too, tenured professor, 25 years next year, at the same college that rejected my student application in 1973...heheh, yes, well. It can be difficult to take off the prof hat, especially when you see someone doing something you could help them with. People don't much like that though, unless they've paid tuition for your thoughts....and many times, not even then;-) A difference between you and Ms. Kelley seems to be that you understand this. You are not lecturing here, but expressing your views, some of them tender emotions actually, without pointing a finger. Nobody likes to be poked.
In the meantime, there is much fun to be had at OS, and support, for me anyway, no anger. I wrote a difficult post about losing my mother a few days ago, and people came in great numbers, and lifted me with their words. This site offers a rich and varied experience, and what you harvest from it depends on you, rather than OS itself. That's how communities work.
Oooops, I did a little lecturing there, didn't I? Damn, see it is hard! Sorry ;-)
Erik Estrada's going to be there.
and my aunty will be too!!
No, no seperate rooms for the different Factions. That's what will make it totally awesome!!!
KNIFE FIGHTS AT 11PM, 3AM AND 12PM!! :D
Not really sure who these rules are meant for. Aside from that whole Trost thing, I've tended to just ignore a lot of the in-game political infighting and posturing.
JK, stop picking on Matt. I love you--go write a post, dammit!
Oh--I teach writing! But don't hate me--it's to learning disabled high schoolers, and I barely eke out a living from it, because I live in --CENSORED-- a state where the politicians are rabid right-wingers who took away all our seniority, and the newly-elected superintendent of public instruction has gone on record saying that if we want to balance the state education budget, all teachers need to take a $5,000 pay cut! I'm a good patriot! Sure, why not?!! My W2 showed $53,000 in 2008 and I just got my new one for 2010 and it shows $39,000! Hey, I can take another $5,000 pay cut! If those crooks at Banner want our medical bills paid, they can put a lien on our house, so there!
Oops, went off on a rant. That's okay. Anarchy rules here, so rants are OK in comments. --er, right, Emma?
By the way, Dorinda thinks I'm you. She left a comment saying I'm the best writer at OS. That sure isn't me--I'm pretty sure she thinks Snippy is you. (snarl)
Ooooops, late for school!!!
Teeheehee!
1. Rule #1 - Act like this is Dear Abby instead of a writing forum. Give the writer pointed life advice instead of looking at their writing as a whole. Assume that every post is the gospel instead of a creative expression. Assume you know me.
2. Rule #2 - Even gentle critique of writing is not allowed. It's Lovefest 2011 and if you can't be nice, begone. Continue to let writers make the same mistakes over and over again because its more important they feel the love instead of improve the writing.
I have others but I've only consumed one cup of coffee.
Oh and I am a writer. And a media consultant.
My website?
Hot Buttered Media
Thanks for this post and for taking the heat on this matter :-)
@emma, Sorry I didn't catch the sarcasm; I guess I was tired.
I agree with all of your points here Emma, particularly regarding the issue of multiple identities. I'll never understand why TPTB have not enforced their own rules. It was the beginning of the end of my love affair with OS.
It's great to see you here. I am glad that you're you and not someone else.
Although I'm not on OS much, I did happen to tune into read Caitlin's syllabus on blogging, but before I read the replies I posted one myself, spur of the moment, from the gut, because I found the tone of her work to be repulsive. I wrote two words in response to her question-- what makes you *not* read someone's blog (or some similar question). I wrote, "Self aggrandizement," which was probably the harshest thing I've written on OS, if not the briefest.
After mashing the 'post this comment' button, I realized that I could have gotten *it* all wrong and so I went back and reread it, including the comments (that time), and felt the same way, if not more offended, and not the least bit sorry for the replies she received, by the way. She asked for them, I think. I meant every word of what I wrote, but do agree that I didn’t say it in a way that was palatable, sort like the author did, which some people think is how the world works, though not at its best.
So, all in all, I have to say that things look pretty normal here on OS, even though I'm only back for the briefest of visits.
And finally, for the record: No, I do not consider myself a writer, although I am published in academic journals. I do want to learn to write better, and am open to critique.
Glad you're back emma peel2 and I mean every word of that too.
I'm getting to the point where I really can't stand the "Well, what did she expect?" reaction. I think it's a cop out.
@Matt: I can live without your brand of "humour," which as far as I can tell consists of attacking anyone, especially female, who doesn't bow to your alleged greatness. Maybe if you weren't so thin-skinned yourself, I'd take what you say more seriously.
@Mumbletypeg: Maybe there is a touch of OCD in my actions, then again, I'd have to blog a lot more often than I do for that to be truly accurate. I gnaw on the bone because it continues to irk my sense of justice and decency. No one has to improve for my benefit; my discomfort comes when people actively seek to harm anyone who offers information that could help them if they choose to accept it. That they let their self-esteem issues get in the way of that and turn into a mob indicates to me that they want to be writers without actually having to do the work. That bugs me because I've worked damn hard at my profession and resent it when others tell me they are as a good as me simply because they say so. A bunch of rates a day from people who rate you because they want you to rate them is NOT a true indication of the quality of anyone's work. That said, there are many writers here that I read regularly who are not professionals but do work hard at improving and I applaud them for that.
@jkbrady - justvisiting: I noticed that phenomenon too, which is why I christened them TWMTM. I wasn't offended by all of the posts spawned by Caitlin, but I was offended by quite a few of the attacks, I mean comments.
@greenheron: thank you for your insightful comments. Some of the reactions may be the result of naivete, but some are simply spiteful. Unfortunately, the spite usually comes from people who have declared themselves de facto leaders here. Lecturing is generally a turn off no matter who'd doing it, and it comes more easily to some of us than others!
@Duane: I'm glad that you have been able to talk about your writing career without being attacked the way so many of the rest of us have. That gives me hope.
@Cindy: It's the weirdest thing. I was searching for your blog last week and couldn't find it. I was out of the loop and didn't realize that you'd had to shutter it. So glad you are back even if you have grown four legs and a lot of fur. Anarchy does rule to some extent, but I think the comments on Caitlin's post proved my point. When a couple of the self-ordained leaders showed up to heap scorn on her, their followers quickly joined in. I am disgusted at the way you are being treated because not only are you a damn fine teacher, you are a good writer as well. You deserve so much better.
@Beth: What you wrote is the saddest thing of all. No criticism of any kind is accepted in most quarters here since people prefer to stagnate rather than listen to a professional who is kind enough to share their knowledge. I would give anything to have had some of the wisdom and talent displayed at OS at my disposal when I was learning to write. Of course, I am still learning and always will be.
@Kellylark: You are one of the voices of reason here. Thank you.
@Lisa: You and many like you. It's OS' loss.
@hyblaean- Julie: You are a sensitive kind person and that is one of the reasons you will always be on my Favourites' list.
@marcellqb: Good point!
@Ablonde: I don't know why they haven't enforced the one id rule but I suspect it has something to do with lack of manpower.
@neilpaul: I appreciate your ability to hear criticism -- it's about the work, not you. Not many people make that essential distinction.
@Stellaa: I've had mixed reaction to the new "action" me but thanks. Your observation is astute as usual. As I mentioned in my second post on this blog, reaction to what is written seems to depend on who is writing it. Lots of people have written about stupid people here, but I think I'm the only one who ever had 6 posts dedicated to calling me out on MY opinion. Same as it ever was.
Denese
@Jeannette: I agree. It is a cop out, and hypocritical too.
@rita: You've always been one of my biggest supporters and for that I am grateful. Most professionals are only too willing to help people for free if it's appreciated. After all, someone helped us and it's part of the writers' code that knowledge is to be shared. I admit to being frustrated right now because I've helped quite a few people who then turned on me because they can't separate themselves from their work. I'm hoping they will learn in time.
I wrote to Caitlin. We'll see what results.
Honestly, I think she can learn from this.
Aside from that, why does anyone give anyone else a second thought as to who is considered "a writer" or anything else? I do understand how some may foolishly attempt to take up rent free space in someone else's head by putting that sort of head trip on them, but I thought the targets of such things learned to let those rolls off in the 1960's liberation movements. Then it occurred to me that people within dominant culture, I think, have a very hard time accepting someone else's disapproval. I'm not saying that it is a walk in the park for me, but the perspective about such external definitions is different for me when you know that a sizable chunk of the population barely considers you human without some sort of qualifying term ahead of it. If they dislike your profession, fuck 'em. If they dislike your view, fuck 'em. If they try to say that you are something other than what you say you are, fuck 'em.
And as for those OS rules that are so poorly considered and enforced, fuck 'em.
Stellaa made an interesting comparison of cartouche's article with that of Caitlin's. paraphrasing, the content was quite similar and there were differences of tone and style. That's how I remember it but tone makes for a very different reaction. To me, one came across as an old hand passing on some useful institutional wisdom. The other sounded more condescending.
Kudos too to Kim's and Beth's comments. By the way, I hope you'll be writing something un-meta soon.
I'm orking on a memoir now. Am I a writer? If so, when did I become one? Point is that yes, everyone can write. It's not the gilded edges or the the Pulitzer prize that makes a person a writer. Its telling a story, and the stories on OS have a way of naturally weeding themselves out. They need no police.
I've also been a master woodworker as well, and yes, that journey began when I drove my first nail. I could have stopped there, and I could have stopped after my fake bio of Calvin Coolidge.
Gotta hit the hay.
@Sazerus: Glad you "got" this, and thanks for commenting.
@Abrawang: I'm glad you came back. Things have been OK here, haven't they? I hope to write something non-meta soon. I have lots of ideas.
Please excuse my grammatical error, first line, paragraph two.
As for your belief that "everyone can write," I do not agree with you except in the most literal sense. I don't recall that I ever said OS needed police. You've jumped the shark there.
Hubris is never appreciated.
Even in the courtroom where confidence is mandatory in presenting an argument a certain humility is required if there is any hope of engaging the jury. No one likes or respects or even trusts a braggart, and secondary agendas are easily recognizable when egos are involved.
The bottom line is that you cannot expect to gain for yourself if it means hurting others in the process. Constructive instruction, criticism or guidance is never hurtful and always welcomed when delivered with sincere compassion; not judgement. If you are going to perform a "good deed, " make sure your motives are pure and your delivery is without malice. Everyone will listen.
Thanks for bringing up these important points, emma.
There should be room for all here.
frankly, i don't pay attention to them and if they become difficult i don't think twice about deleting them. You will not see an entry on my blog, and there are a hundred of them now, wherein I engage in "rule making." I enjoy the "amatuer" status of OS and think it's a lot more fun to see people who always wanted to write and have an outlet find one here. I find most of the so-called pros a lot less interesting, (but that isn't a rule either. I take good writing where I can get it.)
I try my best to be supportive of good work, and hope they get the message. I take as much umbridge as you do, I suspect, at the enforcers and bullies, but feel it's a waste of time to engage with them.
It's a big world with lots of things to write about. I direct my blog to the "innocent"--those unscathed, or at least not tainted by their own sense of self-importance. The history is that they don't last long anyway--and I'm one of the few still around since the beginning.
All the best, by the way, I've liked a lot of your work, have said so, and think of you as a colleague.
P.S. none of this is to say if someone really offends me, and/or has their head so far up their ass they can't smell it any more, I don't let them know that, either.
My goal is to eventually have enough stand alone posts to propose THE WIT AND WISDOM OF BEN SEN, and then learn to be sweet like Lea and talk some dummy into publishing it. Maybe if I get some terminal disease, they'll take pity on me, but I doubt it.
Now I trust you will post your usual quality stuff here, and if you do, I'll try to get used to the new avatar.
@Ben Sen, great to hear from you. Nobody attacked my work. I was responding to an attack on another writer here that got way out of hand. I like what you have to say about self-important people. I wish I could be sweet but like you, my personality is more salty. Thanks for commenting.
@Tim4change: Thanks for not throwing compassion out the window.
It's just annoying when someone posting here apparently and patronizingly seems to attempt to assert some form of superiority over the other "writers" in this venue.
We are all writers except for maybe moi, since I usually use speech-recognition software to post which makes me a "talker", but carrying that reasoning forward makes all of the rest of the writers here "typists", so we might let that dog sleep undisturbed.
Besides, every group needs an overweener or two as object lessons.
If the bun fits...
But we love you Emma, it's those other uppity wieners that I'm "talking" about!
And I meant every word.
now you can get back to being a fine writer...
"mostly bloggers who write only about themselves and their careers, rarely comment on others’ blogs, and yet receive much adulation here. I cannot tell you how to become the exception"
be original, that's all there ever was or ever will be.
the vultures
will flock over your suddenly dead corpus,
of course...
but scavengers in America
can be shot w/o impunity,ha
Write and let write.
Millionaires but nutz. Writing ? I delegate,
"Push send please FRed(tm) "
He's such a helpful Siamese too.
And Canadians - you're great too. Anyone who can stand that cold is my hero.
It certainly wound up some of the professionals and the rest of us.
SUperb.
These are NOT the People Who Make The Rules.
They're just sharks, on a feeding frenzy, hoping to drag you down to their level, so they can feed on you in the cold harsh waters, where the light of reason dims, and victory goes to first to attack or the sharpest teeth.
The "Rules" are just their attempts to tug you down. Write well, share your advice freely with those on whom it is not wasted, promote yourself well and gain readers, and leave them to flail in frustrated jealousy.