DECEMBER 10, 2011 4:09PM

Disrupting The Democrats & the NDAA

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 Video of action here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN6tYuq8B7A

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What a night! I went down to Occupy Seattle up at SCCC. Met some folks who were going to protest Maria Cantwell at the Paramount Theater.  They told me about how Maria Cantwell voted for the National Defense Authorization Act.  And yes, she is a democrat. The National Defense Authorization Act basically enables the military to round people up (including American citizens) and hold them indefinitely.  Read more about NDAA here:http://www.worldcantwait.net/index.php/home-mainmenu-289/7484-indefinite-detention-and-the-eviction-of-occupys

Some of the organizers were speaking to how they felt this act is  a major attack on civil liberties and further shredding up the Constitution.  We decided it was important that we wake people to the truth.  We had made signs on the spot that read Shame on Maria Cantwell and Stop Indefinite Detention Here and All Over the World.

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Hundreds of people were waiting in line to get in and we had very controversial discussions Many people were shocked that Maria Cantwell voted for this, while others had no idea what the NDAA actually was.  People were saying yes, they agreed with us  but things would be worse if a republican was in office. I told people that  it doesn't matter who is in office, it matters what is happening in the streets. We don't control the elections anyway, the elections control us! 

There were some people who were incredibly hostile because they could not stand the idea of people criticizing the Democrats. One persontold a black man who was with us to "go back to Africa." If we were criticizing these policies under Bush to this crowd, it wouldn’t have been controversial at all but somehow if it is a Democrat that is doing that is carrying it out, people learn to accept it.  It reminds me of a quote by Bob Avakian in the book BAsics: “If you try to make the Democrats be what they are not, and never will be, you will end up being more like what the Democrats actually are.” 

A college student who majored in history and joined us on the spot, was challenging people to think critically about the democrats and  to "wake up!" Two people came up to us out of the line off of our signs and soapboxing and gave us 2 tickets to go inside. There were more than a couple people waiting in line who had 99% stickers on.  While me and an occupier named Salvador were waiting to go in, he started talking to me about the war on terror.  The military had attempted to recruit him when he was in high school and he was seriously considering joining  but a military veteran told him not to do it.  He now has another friend who toured Iraq who is "just not the same" after coming back. He talked about how the whole war on terror is just bullshit, that the powers that be want to instill fear in people and how they are after the resources of people in that region of the world. 

 When Maria Cantwell starting speaking, I yelled Mic Check and starting agitating about the National Defense Authorization Act and why it was wrong and the need for people to oppose it. Some people starting chanting "6 more years", meaning 6 more years of Democrats  (and essentially 6 more years of war, torture indefinte detention etc) One guy tried to choke me while another person attempted to cover my mouth with his hand.  At the same time, there were other people who pointed at me and stood up and said yes I agree with you. And others who were clapping and giving the thumbs up. We got dragged out pretty quickly but we shouted about the NDAA the whole way. We left to go up to the college to upload our video.  One of the other protesters told us that one guy came out and asked if they were with that girl who disrupted Maria Cantwell because of the NDAA. He said, "Yes I was really offended about that." The protester asked what he meant and he said, " I was really offended that Maria Cantwell voted for that."     

 

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What I find REALLY troubling.....the internet claims that this bill provides for the "basically enables the military to round people up (including American citizens) and hold them indefinitely." That can't be further from the TRUTH. Section 1032 of the Bill says, "“The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States." So, my question is: Did you READ this bill prior to developing your response to it? Or did you just read an article that TOLD you what to think about this bill?

Also, I find it equally troubling that your blog states nothing about what I witnessed....which was some INFORMED person mic-checked you and told you what WALL STREET REFORMS Maria Cantwell stands for. I hope you intend to respond to this very important piece of information. If you DON'T, then we will know just what you stand for.
GFS - Even assuming you are right about 1032 excluding Americans - see 1032(b) - you are not right about the entire bill.

You are overlooking Section 1031. The newest version of that section includes 1031(e) which provides: (e) Authorities- Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.

What does that mean? Or more importantly what do the supporters of the bill believe it means. They claim they can detain Americans in military detention already, under cases like Padilla. So Graham expressly says in the Senate debate that he isn't changing anything.

Does this bill - taken en toto - exclude Americans? On its face it isn't clear. Since it isn't clear, a reviewing court (like the Supreme) would view the legislative history. The dominant view of the people voting for it, is that Americans are covered.

The Supreme Court would then have to decide if the bill is unConstitutional.
Well the bill is about 600 pages and takes some actual time to sift through and do it. THe ACLU, Center For Constitutional Rights and many others have done a fantastic job of helping distill it and such. And yes, protesters there were extremely knowledgeable about the bill. Including the fact that section 1032 only applies to section 1032. 1031 is the section that allows the military to indefintely detains anybody they deem as a "threat." I assume you have not EVEN been able to distill and critcally look at this entire document unless you happen to be an expert in law re civil liberties. Cantwell also voted for the invasion of Iraq and the Patriot Act. And no, none of this acceptable just because the democrats are promising some Wall Street reform. Shame on you if that is all it takes for you to go along with war crimes and crimes against humanity.