NOVEMBER 17, 2008 10:02AM

7 True Things about Modern Love...

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1.  Being a podiatrist only makes you an expert on feet.  It does not make you a psychiatrist, a sociologist, a public health expert, or a philosopher.  It makes you the equivalent of a plumber, only you work on feet.  And even while feet are much more complicated, it is still a restricted area of expertise.  This goes for all other doctors, as well.  Grand generalizations about everything under the sun that vaguely relate to sex and health are about as useful as a pundit's guess before an election, interesting but rarely accurate or relevant.

 

2.  Pornography today is not pornography of yesterday.  All porn of every ilk is available to everyone 24/7.  There is no fetish that cannot be enhanced or explored over the internet.  This is a good thing as it helps us all understand ourselves and minimizes the need to experiment on willing or unwilling paricipants.  This is a good thing.

 

3.  Pornography doesn't make you a rapist or a killer.  There are several indicators of how this happens to people.  It is either endemic, which has nothing to do with external stimulus, or it is caused by sociologically broken systems that do not provide normal stimulus or brain injury.  There are no more serial killers now than there ever were, there are just more on record and on tv and in the media.  Crime statistics back this up.  Incidents of rape have decreased since the internet went wild.

 

4.  Girls gone wild are just girls looking for external validation in a system where their self-worth is undefined at age 18.  People without careers and lifestyles more complex than living at home with their parents have not got a lot to call attention to themselves.  But if they show you their tits and make out with their friends, men and boys will watch.  Other girls will watch to compare themselves to other girls as they are trying to self-evaluate.    Insecure girls used to go behind the bleachers and lift their skirts and girls have always looked at other women and self-evaluated.  This is nothing new, it is just on tape, now.

 

5.  Tramp stamps are forever.  Yet, they do not hold up well over time.  If you have one, you should seriously consider that decision next time you make any decision.

 

6.  If you are sexually adventurous when you are young and have no responsibilities and do so in a safe manner, you don't wonder for the rest of your life whether you really might like to have a three way or kiss a girl/guy.  The more we suppress our desire to explore possible options when we are young, the more trouble and regret occurs later in life when kids and marriages and jobs are now in play.  Sexual adventure is appropriate for the young, with other youth of appropriate age.  The fantasy of initiation is best left in the imagination of the adult. 

 

7.   Nothing that I said in the previous 6 items will be found in Cosmo.  Cosmo is about fostering the beliefs and ideation of post-adolescent girls.  The ideas expressed in Cosmo regarding sexual behavior of normal individuals border on pure fiction.  Real people have had enough actual sexual experience to know that if it lasts all night, you are doing it wrong.

 

These are things I think, things that I have gleaned from the Discovery Channel specials on human sexuality, other specials on killers and rapists and how their brains are different than normal brains, and things that I have noticed as common traits among my peers.  I am not an expert.  I do not even claim to be one with the exception of pottery.  So these are opinions, just opinions.  But look at how authoritative it all sounded!   That is because I am a very intelligent person and I speak well and with authority.  Consider that next time you are reading something that really really sounds official and then honestly evaluate the source of the information.  That is the point of this post.

For full disclosure, my opinions for the above came from these data:

1.  from experience with blowhard doctors who were often wrong

2.  from experience

3.  from discovery channel special on brain abnormalities in criminals

4.  having been a girl for 40 years and having lived among them as well

5.  living at the beach where many ages of people are mostly naked here

6.  experience and informal polling

7.  reading Cosmo for 20 years and abandoning it once mature adult

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#1 is true. That's why I titled my blog "I only know about science." While it isn't exactly true, I would only consider myself as having bona fide expertise in veterinary medicine and molecular biology. I like to spout off about everything else, but that's just shootin' from the hip. Opinions are indeed like, well, you know. Everybody has one.
Elizabeth. I like this. It's direct, it's too the point and there is much truth to it. I hope it gets more visibility. Rated.
Love your brain. Often like mine. Often not. Still. Love your brain, sister.
I like brains, too. I especially like brains that are kept in check. I am very smart, but I am only expert at a few very specific things. The rest of life, I have to rely on good coping skills and logic. Some people, and I am not directing this post at only one doctor, I am thinking of three specifically, assume that one are aof expertise makes them an expert on everything, that a Doctorate is permission to bloviate. It also stops makes some of them think they are done, that there is no more research or work to do, and they stagnate.

I have had some strange experiences with doctors including 5 experts who said that it was physically impossible for me to bear and achieve live birth to my now 4 year old son.

Nothing like having 5 experts be completely wrong to wean you off the God complex that, for better or worse, we all get a little of. Because if you didn't really believe in your doctors benevolent godhood, would you take things that would otherwise be considered poison in the interest of healing?

I get why they are like that. But I prefer a scientific approach.
I don't watch Discovery, have never done that much informal polling on these topics, only ever flipped through the pages of Cosmo in desperation as an early teen when a Playboy or Penthouse could not be had, am not a doctor and have never even played one on TV.

But my experience in life tells me you are spot on Priddy. #6 is especially good advice.
I think a more apt title would have been "7 True Things About Modern Sex". Sex sells for one thing, secondly, most of this stuff (majority) is sexual. I agree with most all of them, just an observation.

The pornography thing is an interesting debate that I'm surprised isn't discussed much. Two schools of thought. One, it fuels the fire that causes more rape, increased teen pregnancy, etc... Second school of thought, and the one I subscribe to (although I must admit I'm not much for porn) that rape is an act of irrational violence and has zero to do with Sex, unless we're talking date rape which is just as bad but not caused by porn. And as for pregnancy, I think with porn more easily available, less teen males will be walking around with "loaded guns". That just may help them not pressure their young girlfriends into premature sex.

Just a thought...
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I'm with Elizabeth in general and I'm with Mary especially on #6 and I'm with you on all of this. As usual, an unusual, lively, penetrating post.

Rate on!
I like to spout off about everything else, but that's just shootin' from the hip.

I'm with buckeyedoc on this. I sometimes slip up and appeal to authority (my own), but I try not to; it's a surprisingly easy mistake to make.
Yah, you know how to bring the heat.

You were mentioned by a fan of yours as one of the "Women We Love". Above is evidence of why. Great piece.
I like your no-nonsense, tell-it-like-it-REALLY-is approach. Much better advice than Cosmo offers up any day.
I wonder if we can even draw conclusions about porn as harmful or harmless when there is a spectrum from very routine to very violent forms.
I like what you have to say, especially #6. I can't agree that "Real people have had enough actual sexual experience to know that if it lasts all night, you are doing it wrong." And I think buckeyedoc is right on, it is difficult to talk about porn in a general way given the spectrum of what is available.

"Consider that next time you are reading something that really really sounds official and then honestly evaluate the source of the information." this is an excellent point to which I would add, evaluate the information itself, not just the source. Often, when we remove the authoritative sounding voice and replace it with our own, we suddenly see the failures of logic, etc.
There comes a point in every almost-still-young woman's life where the subscription to Cosmo exits stage left and Vanity Fair gains its rightful place.

Criticizing Cosmo for being fantastical or myopic is like putting down Grease for its treatment of the Cold War.

(thumbified because Elizabeth knows good sex *and isn't afraid to ask!)
Excellent post, Elizabeth. I myself am an expert on nothing - if you ever want to know anything about nothing, just ask me. :-D

I have a friend who is a technical expert, and he has a saying that I love:
Trust, but verify.

Thumbed.
Wow, there is so much I would say if I weren't reduced to tapping this out on my iPhone due to dead DSL. ( yes I'm still whining)

At least I can give this post a love bump for the feed......

Thanks, E!
e,
I liked this post very much with it's honesty and freshness. And,....BTW I'm an expert on stuff not gettin' done, so if there is something not finished, it's probably me.......
I appreciate the support. i have frequently of late been hesitant to post "word" posts because of the failure of my keyboard. You see, the "y" fell off and my touch typing hits this weird speed bpumpus every time I have to reach in the hole where the key was and get a "y". I had to proofread this 4 times and I found some doozies where I had reached in for the "y" and came back out with the fingers positioned on the wrong keys.

SO .... thanks for the support. I had two levels of meaning here. One is the obvious, a few tidbits about modern sex/love. And another the immediate respect that anyone calling themself "Dr." makes us flex and offer up. Remember, I am an ordained minister, and I am not just saying that, I really can marry any of you. I could have just said I was, but I bothered to get the credential. Anyone on OS who says they are a doctor and talks a good game could get away with it.

By my count, it takes 3 years to fulfill a specialization residency. That means that Dr. Amy must have spent at least 15 years as a resident since she is an expert on cloning, general practice, OB/GYN, cardiovascular disease, and pharmacology. And that is only going back three pages of posts and discounting current events.

If she would pick a medical specialty and stick to it, I would give what she says more weight. But I would still get a local real world opinion if it mattered.

I like our good Dr's posts, but I trust Rahul more because he doesn't over-reach so often.

And this last one sent me over the top as it was just wild speculation.
So I posted about wild speculation and the authority it might engender, even without a "y" to stand with.
I guess this would technically count as "cam whoring" but I've had you in mind today Priddy, so I left a little something special for you during the downtime at Lonnie Cam. N'joy.
Can someone tell me where this women we love post is?

I did a search in the OS search for "women we love" and nothing that mentions specific women comes up....and I need to know, like Telly Savalas always asked, "Who loves you, baby?"

and Lonnie, I am cam impaired. What am I supposed to see? And do not rick roll me or that other roll you offer, either!
My definition of pornography is doing those things that others secretly wish they could do sexually and otherwise. I wish you all a grand pornographic life:-). p.s. it's never too late to start.
Priddy, just click the link, darlin' - then sit back and enjoy.
Priddy, thanks for this post. I am so completely sick of self-righteousness and the posturing of those I call "post-liberals" These are the ones who flew right past the belief that everyone should get to live his/her own life as they see fit and went straight to "this bothers me, so it has to bother everyone else"

Isn't this exactly what we criticize the religious right for doing?

Over the past 16 months, I have been dealing with a mysterious illness that no one has been able to diagnose. I have dealt with a range of doctors from caring and curious to aloof and dismissive. I'm seriously considering a witch doctor at the moment. The doctor in question here obviously doesn't have much of a practice. Not only has she ample time for copious posts, but she stays on for hours to respond to comments almost in real time.

Finally, let me just add that I think sex is great. Love is good, too, but sex is just great. If you want to read a magazine that purports to tell you how to make sex better, I say go for it. Yeah, Cosmo's a rag, but it's a fun rag. And, if it makes just one night, or afternoon, or morning, or weekend better for you, it's OK by me. When I look at my wife and think that it would be wonderful to have sex tonight, I'm not objectifying her, I'm just horny!! Lighten up, doc.

Rated big time
Wow! That was so cool I linked to it in the blog!

I am blushing. (turning pink in the cheeks)
Wow my internet is back. Modern love; everything old is new again . I suppose we could ask Anais Nin were she still around.

What we need to teach the kids as they grow is how to filter what they see nd read. There's nothing inherently evil in Cosmo, but it's camp. Yes, CAMP! Geez, drag queens have known that for years. Read cosmo with your mental camp filter on and you'll find it hilarious. At a further step on the camp extreme meter, tabloids were cheap entertainment for me and my friends many a time. "I WAS BIGFOOT'S LOVE SLAVE" was my all time favorite National Enquirer headline.

We will get NOWHERE by condemning the various "evildoers" in film and media - and trying to hide all that stuff from kids as they grow is impossible and asking for trouble. The more forbidden something becomes the more enticing it is. Our kids (AND SOME ADULTS) need to learn to take what is there and filter with a grain of salt as appropriate.

Exempt from this philosopy, of course, is any media or film that depicts harmful acts or child pornography - but that should go without saying. A crime is a crime whether on the screen, print, or in day to day life.

Oh - and Elizabeth, I have to say that I embraced #6 fully and it worked out quite well for me..........
Right on! (As the old hippies say.) Thank you for making the case that having an M.D. is not an automatic qualification to be the last word on all things physical. I certainly value the knowledge and training of physicians. I am horrified when people tell me they are using alternative medicine to treat cancer because they think their local naturopath is as qualified as an M.D. (I have a deceased cousin who used that approach.)

I personally have given up commenting on Amy Tuteur's posts because she has the absolute certainty of a religious zealot. (I've said as much in comments on her blog before I stopped reading her.) She throws around citations like the religious zealot quotes scripture. It would be helpful if people realized that in her case they are dealing not with an M.D., but with a T.B.--True Believer.
Susan, this is unfortunately true. I quickly came to realize that there is no room for discourse on her posts. She is rigid in her mindset that what she states is true, even when presented with solid arguments with corroborating evidence. This is especially troublesome because she establishes her medical credentials in both her user name and her bio. Because of this posts have the potential to be misleading if not handled responsibly.

Considering the vehemence of her declarations, I think it would be appropriate to state some type of disclaimer. pontificatrix does this every time she posts something not directly related to her specific area of expertise, and I commend her for that.
epriddy do you know too when you quantify something ie "20 true things about modern love" people tend to believe the list is full and complete...hence so many 7 spots that turn a man on about your body (as if there couldn't be more, or less, than 7) or 9 ways you can make the best out of your wardrobe for easter...silly how the human brain is so easily conned (buy two get one free sounds so much better than 33.33% mark down...)...
That's perzactly why I chose that title!

And lookit! It worked.
ePriddy - your question about "Women We Love": It's a list I've threatened to put together, with help from men of Open Salon, of women we love and why. Actually, I guess I should ask for nominations from lesbians too. Same perspective.

I haven't done it yet, but will soon. I've received nominations so far for you, marytkelly, sandra miller and a couple of others. I'd nominate Stellaa, and not solely because it's piss her off.

I haven't figured out all the parameters yet, but they'll start with "No sex-obsessed yahoo comments." And I don't want to know who has a hot photo. It's about the attitudes of grown-up women who like men.
Well, post it already! And definitely nominate Stellaa. It really will piss her off. Tell it's because of her great recipes and homemaking skills. (She is really good at cooking and homemaking, there was a very long thread/debate about it a few months ago.)
Alright, God, nag me why don't you? It's a good thing we men love you.
That's a damn fine and sensible post.

Is there anything wrong with sexual adventurism once you're divorced and the kids are grown? I think not, though tempering it with wisdom and mercy can be somewhat limiting.

I've heard.