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MAY 13, 2009 5:55AM

Parenting: The math scourge

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The worst thing that can happen to me as a parent, all categories included, save for maybe accidental deaths of family members, is when my daughter tells me that she needs to study for a math exam.

These words activate my flight reflexes like nothing else. My heart feels like a big stone lump in my chest. My sympathetic system goes into overdrive. I start sweating. My boyfriend, if he is at home, sends me a sympathetic look. No amount of persuasion will make him trade the job of helping her study for anything else.

The truth is that my daughter sucks at math big time. She is an intelligent enough person so I don’t see the exact problem. I think that what she lacks is somehow the emotional maturity of sticking with a problem and accepting the fact that she does not immediately know the reply. Math sessions throughout the years have resulted in countless torn books, thrown pens, words, slammed doors, you name it. I learned early to be constructive and not get caught up. I support, I cajole, I explain each solution from different angles, but to no avail. I have given up. Not on my daughter or her intelligence. I have not given on  helping my daughter study - I have happily traced the events leading up to the First World War, helped author a short essay in French about Street Dance and countless other requests for assistance that are usually voiced on the evening before the assignment is due and when I have collapsed in front of the TV for what I was hoping to be the rest of the evening. What I have given up on is being able to do the job of the school in teaching my daughter the patience to work through a math problem.

Last night my daughter needed to study for a comprehensive national math exam. It is meant to measure the math skills of all Swedish sixteen-year-olds. In other words it is the kind of exam that is difficult to study for. You are not exactly given the page numbers of what you need to review. I was dyeing my hair when my daughter asked me for help. In response to the request I took a deep breath and sat down with the dye still in my hair at the kitchen table.

My daughter lasted 60 seconds before falling apart. Suddenly the piercing she had removed from her lip was missing. How could anyone be expected to concentrate on math under such circumstances? It was the favorite piercing! Daughter accused me of hiding it, she flipped through the book, she stormed out of the kitchen. A few minutes later she found the piercing under the salt shaker on the kitchen table, where she had put it herself to keep it safe.

And so it continued. I do not remember all that was said in the kitchen. But I know that at some point I stood above the kitchen sink, banging my head against the white kitchen cabinets in desperation. I know this because the hair dye from my hair made permanent black patches on the cabinet doors, which I had to explain to my boyfriend.

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Bra!!! Jättebra språk, roligt!!
Funny post. My son is younger than your daughter, but I can relate to your frustration! When he has math homework, I know it is going to be a looong night.
I have no kids, but I have tutored many. Some of them are quite stony, and from some, I see eruptions. So many people dislike math. (then they often realize that, short of a few specific careers, they don't use much of the math they are forced to suffer through once college is over)
I think you should get a label for the hair dye stains...something to the effect of--"The Dangers of Math."
Thanks for the comments. My boyfriend removed most of the stains using steel wool, and if you look at it from the right angle you can't tell anything happened. The light has to be just right...
Polly person - could you write in English please? I can't understand your comments...:D
Trust me, Math homework, is NOT the worse thing that can happen to you. Dealing with drug addiction is by far worse. I know you are being funny...I just wanted to put things into perspective for you. I so badly wish that a Math exam was my biggest challenge. Since I'm a Math teacher, I would be able to handle that one! Good writing.
My sister has a type of learning disability that related to all things non-verbal. If its in words she can do it. Symbols, shapes, spacial reasoning, . . . not so much. The math tantrums at our house were legendary. My mother finally got the magic test that let her escape all math requirements. She was never going to learn it, despite being intelligent in other ways.
SO funny! I SO identify. "My sympathetic system goes into overdrive. I start sweating. "

But seriously -- With my 3 boys, the best thing to do was to take a step back. See if there's a peer tutoring program at school, or if the teacher offers extra help or office hours. Let them do it themselves, even if that sometimes means a lower grade. At least then, the teacher can see where the gaps are. I always told my kids, "I already graduated. This is YOUR homework." (That said, I do get hooked in sometimes and it depends on the kid.)

My oldest son has a math learning disability. You might want to check that out too. I would not assume she's just being a pain in the ass, although kids her age excel at that! ;-) (I love the lip-ring scene.)
Through personal experience (with my brother) and professional experience (with innumerable students & parents who come through the doors of the test prep company where I work), the best advice i could give you is to find someone who she doesn't know, who has college-level math skills, to work with her.

I would wager that her problem isn't with a lack of ability, but more a mental/psychological block to ALLTHINGSMATHAHHHHHHHH! I'm not suggesting getting a crazy-expensive, brilliant tutor, but rather someone who has the skills to keep up with her and can act as a mentor.

Here in the states, this service could probably be had for $15/hour.
Thank you for all the comments! They make me happy to read!
Much sympathy here. I fell behind in math in first grade and never caught up. (My parents response was to get me a book about overcoming math anxiety - not exactly the help I needed.) Algebra is the reason I don't have a college degree.

I would get her tested to make sure there are no underlying problems, and then get a tutor.
Oh dear. Can I ever relate. However, let me give you the relation from the daughter side.

I was your daughter many (many) years ago. I was even diagnosed as having a "mathematical computation learning disorder," which I think is now called Dyscalculia. My father is a math whiz and would read (and still does read) calculus books for "fun." When it came time to sit at the kitchen table to do homework, it was always a guaranteed fight if there was math on the list.

It was a relation thing. I didn't understand math (still don't) and he couldn't understand why I couldn't understand. Sure, if you're a math genius, it comes easy. But for those of us who really stink at it, it's like trying to read Greek for the first time with a gun pointed to our head.

Sometimes getting a tutor, especially one that is impartial and isn't a parent, is a good way to go. When you walk to the table with math homework and there's the expectation of frustration, it's not good for anyone in the situation. Good luck!
On the plus side...there are plenty of jobs out there that don't require a whole lot of math.

The last math class I took was pre-calculus, as a sixteen-year-old. I think I barely scraped by with a C.

Due to my college major (English), I was able to get out of the math requirement by testing out of a class called "Math for Elementary School Teachers." Basically, it was math up to very very very basic algebra, with a heavy emphasis on fractions (since we're still on the English system of measurement, we use fractions a LOT over here). Not difficult, as it was all stuff I'd learned back in grade school.

And I have not been called upon to do any math problem more complicated in the 11 years since.
My kids long ago gave up asking me about math. The math my daughter tackled in 7th grade is harder than anything I had to do in high school. Very funny post. I hope at least a few parents are banging their heads against cabinetry in Sweden as well.
I sympathize. I recommend you lay out some ground rules if she asks you for help again. If she breaks them, go make yourself a margarita and grab the remote! You're off the hook!
Mmmm, sounds like me. My mother had taught math, and she got it and loved it. Me, not so much. I hated it but was always determined to do it.

Once in college, my roommate and I, both liberal arts majors in a dorm full of math/science whizzes, were sitting on the floor of our dorm room, struggling with the most basic level algebra they taught and bawling our eyes out, with math papers, books and calculators strewn around us. It was quite the sight!
Math has two components: One is knowing math facts -- being able to do simple addition, subtraction, multiplication and division easily. This is mostly memorization and practice. If your daughter has a deficit, practice f5-10 minutes a day until she knows her multiplication tables cold and can add and subtract quickly to 100.

The other part is problem solving. This usually involves breaking the problem into smaller parts. Suggesting steps might help.
A Swedish teen who is not good at math? According to our educational administrators only Americans are bad at math. Not everyone gets or needs math at the same point in their life. I was terrible at it up into my first attempts at college. My mother's insulting and abusive "help" never helped much. Now I'm a physical chemist. Try some study guide type books like "Algebra Demystified". Sometimes all it takes is a different point of view without any parental or personality induced difficulty. Too late now but hydrogen peroxide would take out the head-prints. You could also probably make an interesting faux finish by repeatedly pressing your freshly dyed head against the cabinets.
If you and your daughter find the Math thing so challenging why not play the victim card and claim that she suffers from some sort of autism or other handy learning disability. Millions of other parents and state-financed social workers can't be wrong, could they? Or maybe your girl is dense when it comes to numbers and you guys have to get over it and attempt to work toward her strengths rather than her weaknesses.
American teachers and parents favor the "My child/student just isn't good with math/spelling/physics/French...." The Japanese teacher and/or parent views ineptitude in a subject as the failure to work hard enough. As a teacher myself for 30 years, I came to understand that the Japanese view is the correct one, and also the likely reason why Japanese students score so much higher than do Americans in all subjects. But working hard during one's education and the importance of education as the foundation of one's life, etc., etc., is something parents must impart to their children beginning in early childhood.
I think it's a mistake to label yourself "dense" when it comes numbers. It's even a bigger mistake for Darryl to label you as "dense" when it comes to numbers. (C'mon, Darryl! Jeez!)

Like hatchetface, I had probs in this area when I was 16. Now I'm a programmer. I found that with age came a natural curiosity and more tenacity with things I couldn't immediately get. You see, just because a person isn't good at something straight off the bat doesn't mean they should give up. You just have to get the brain to get used to going that way.
I agree with angrymom. I wasn't always terrible at math but I remember that day before my Math final in 8th grade when I sat crying with my brother trying desperately to help me understand, with that look of disbelief, as if saying " I can't believe you're not getting this!" It was the first chapter of my math book and despite all the examples and all the sincerest efforts of my brother and my parents, I just couldn't understand it.

Just two-and-a-half years later, while prepping for my O'levels, I had that same look of disbelief that my brother had... I couldn't believe I hadn't gotten something so simple back then!

Sometimes we just need time... time to overcome our anxieties about we can and can't do, time to overcome our dislike (which really seems to be a fashionable preference when your a kid) of Math or whatever subject it is we're having difficulty with, and mostly time to just relax a bit, take a step back, regroup and reapproach the subject.

By the time you're daughter's asking for help, it's too late. She may just be avoiding Math until she realizes she has no choice. Or she may just be a habitual procrastinator... like me... leaving things to the last minute and then scrambling, getting a hit at most things that come easier to her but struggling and missing with things that don't.. such as math.

The distractions and tantrums are simply because the stress of the Math exam is too much for her to bear. You might not have been able to help her through this exam, but you could help her by teaching her to face her fears and not yield to avoidance. If you look closely, she may be applying the same technique to other areas of her life that make her stressed or unhappy. She may also need to know that she is perfectly capable of doing well in Math and that she will eventually even if it doesn't happen right away.

Ugh... this parenting thing is hard! I can only imagine what my mom went through with the five of us... and now I'm just a beginner parent with a 4 year old. So much fun is yet to come my way!

Good Luck to you and your daughter.
I was just taking a swipe at the sociology perps. Dense was what I was at math and science but I was double-plus good at history and language arts. I did become very good at math skills later in life...
Your daughter was me when I was a child. I hated math. I still do. Thanks goodness for calculators. Oh, and spread sheets! I'm with Stellaa, above. Learning how to use Excel opened up vistas for me. You might try that with your son.

Note also that there is a learning disability related to math. It is called Dyscalculia. Check it out:

http://www.dyscalculiaforum.com/news.php
I second dnelle's advice. My elder daughter had problems in math too, as a sophomore, and we got a high school senior to help her (found through the counseling office at her school). It helped to cut down on the rebellion factor by quite a bit. Also, he was better at explaining the problems than I was.
I really understand this one - I have the typical female math aversion/phobia and so, when our 5th grade turned out to be a math-wiz, I decided to use it to my advantage and now pay him $1 to help his younger sisters with their math homework. A total bargain, they all seem to love it, and I stay sane. No head banging.
I was always good at math and never understood that stereotype that women didn't like/weren't good at/were afraid of math. When I got to calculus, though, and more than a few dimensions, I couldn't keep all those balls in the air so everything fell down at that point. But basic algebra and trig stuff, the linear stuff, was always a cinch for me. But I do think that's a sign of a linear mind. And linear thinking is absolutely not the ideal for many situations, especially ones calling for creativity. I think we all have our strengths and weaknesses and it's silly to think everyone has to be good at everything. This doesn't help your daughter, though, does it? How about this? Cut this out and have your daughter say to her teacher, "Lainey says I'm just fine at other stuff and I don't need to be good at math too!" See how that works for her :)

(Good luck)
I remember the night my mother kept me up and wouldn't let me go to bed until I had my multiplication tables down pat. I was very good at math back then, and honestly, it was all her- there's no native talent or love on my part.
Your story was a riot though :D too funny!
I agree with the comments about finding a non-parent tutor. Your story reminds me of my Dad trying to teach me and my older sister to drive. Needless to say we ended up going to a paid instructor (incidentally the guy also taught my Mom to drive). Sometimes there is too much other stuff going on in parent-teen ralationships. You know how to push each others buttons and it adds to the stress level during the homework sessions. Math was never my strongest subject and I had to work to master many of the concepts. Looking back I realize that math helped me develop a clearer, more logical way of thinking and that is its true value for the great majority of us who are not engineers, etc. The key for me was pratice. Just muscling through a lot of problems and working myself up to the level of difficulty expected in the exams. As unpleasant as that sounds that's what your daughter, with the help of her tutor, will have to do. Good luck!
Once again - thank you for the feedback and suggestions. Each comment was valuable.