NOVEMBER 7, 2009 10:45AM

Open Call: Advice to Prospective/Novice Bloggers

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Next Friday (yes, Friday the 13th) I'll be teaching the first session of another writing workshop. I know I've mentioned here, in the past, that I'm always trying to encourage my students to start blogs (on OS or elsewhere) because I think blogging is great practice for all types of creative writing. So far, though, it hasn't really worked. A couple of my students have started OS blogs, only to stop after a single post (or never post at all.) Many more have expressed enthusiasm for the idea but, for whatever reason, not followed through. I know that, for some, the technology is intimidating. I'm no techie myself, though, and I can handle enough for a simple blog (with no pictures posted, nor links to anything else.) And I always offer to help my students with the nuts-and-bolts aspects...

So, here's the Open Call. What's your best advice to new bloggers? It would be great if you could advise, not only on the technical stuff, but on ways to stay motivated and make blogging a habit.

Here are a few of mine.

1. Don't worry about "bells and whistles" unless you're already a computer geek and you feel like it. Photos, audio and video can be nice, but all a blog really needs to have on it is your writing.

2. What should you write about? Anything and everything. Tell us your thoughts about a book you read, a movie you saw or a meal you ate. Share a memory about your family, your school days; whatever. Share a poem, song or recipe. Also, remember that a blog is not a dinner party. You can write about sex, politics, religion (or all three) if that's what's on your mind. Just remember that (especially when writing on "hot-button" topics) safe blogging is anyonymous blogging. Only use your real name and/or photo if you're 100% sure that you'll never post anything you wouldn't want, for instance, a prospective employer to see.

3. Post something at least once a week. Even if you think there's "nothing" to say. That's how you learn to be a writer. Remember the Nike commercials? So..."just do it!" Blogs are perfect places for pure stream-of-consciousness writing. Your most interesting posts might be written on those days when you just sit down, place your fingers on the keyboard and let them go where they will...

Now, I open the floor to my brother and sister OS bloggers.

Thanks in advance!

Eva

 

 

 

 

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Not to sound too cranky, but remind people that spelling/grammar and editing matter. People are more likely to respect your work if you've shown you respect them enough to write it well. Doesn't have to be perfect; just give it a read-over.

Tell them to read it out loud first, before they hit 'publish'.
Will Someone Feed The Cat?: That's not "crankiness" but very good advice. Thanks!
I just joined OS. I wanted to start my own blog but I have not done that so maybe it is just a nagging thought. I would add that blogs do not have to be long, they can be just a thought. When you write about what you are passionate about that usually becomes your best piece. You are right on point with your suggestions. Have a successful class!
Ollie's Daughter: Thanks! I hope you'll start writing your own posts soon. Let me know when you do.
I would say - relax and have fun. And yes - review your post before you hit publish, but don't let perfectionsism paralyze you.
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Eva,
Writers need a thin skin while composing and a thick skin after they publish.
I'd say the oldest line in the book: write about what you know, what you see, what you experience, and what you imagine.

Don't shoot too high, try to be perfect, or listen too much to what anybody else says. Does what you write matter to you?

I disagree with the spelling and grammar part. It more often than not makes newcomers self-conscious and can be a killer of ones spirit as a writer. If that is all anybody points out to you,
I'd suggest the oldest line in the books: write about what you know, experience, see, and imagine.

Does what you are writing matter to you?

Don't listen too much to what other's say. I disagree with the advice about spelling and grammar. It's not as impotant as getting out what you have to say, and can make you self-conscious.

Perfectionism is the killer of creativity.

Oh yeah, and read more Ben Sen.
Three things come to mind.

First, it might be less stressful to point them towards the commenting aspect of the blogosphere. It won't diminish the creative component of the process in the least and it's a quick way to develop a dialogue with some truly outstanding writers. The difference between a good post and a thoughtful response is often murky and minuscule at best. Or ought to be.

And in order to find the material worthy of these responses they will be required to READ READ READ. In fact I'd make this clear to your students above all else because a love of reading is essential to good writing and multiplies your enjoyment of this site by a factor of ten - easy.
Of course, if your students are not ardent enthusiasts of great writing then their time and yours is completely wasted here .

And lastly I wouldn't want to apply any pressure in terms of a deadline. Although your once per week suggestion appears generous, six days in it will begin to feel like a 200 lb load on their backs.
Still thank God that you didn't suggest/demand that they write EVERY day - because that has to be the absolute worst advice a budding writer could ever receive. There are people here on OS that do this - every fucking day they send out these bland, dull, tepid missives (redundant much, Angus?) and I want to tell them to take a bloody break. HEY! There's a Three's Company marathon on TV running all week - go watch it! PLEASE!

Ok that's it. And this was NOT an attempt to hijack your post- you asked!

P.S. And I very much think that your students are lucky to have you as a teacher/motivator. Tell them Angus says hi and whaddup :)
one more thing: don't forget to revise, and keep revising. It is one of the best things about blogging as opposed to appearing in print. See how much better I wrote what I had to say the second time.
I'd say post what amuses or satisfies you, because in all likelihood, you're going to be your own most enchanted and persistent reader.

I don't see why it's necessary to write at least once a week, though if your students don't have fulltime jobs or families yet, it's a simple matter of allocating discretionary time. For older adults, unless they write for a living, it's often going to be hard to find time to write. I'd say write when you can and don't lose any sleep over it when you can't.

And as a blogger who writes under her own name (though a common name), I echo your point about writing what you would not blush for an employer to see. At a website like this, where sex and alternative lifestyles make the front page, that limits me, but I'm vain enough to prefer to see what limited writing I do under MY NAME.
Eva: There's plenty of good advice here for you. As Angus said, you asked for it.

What I don't know about your students makes me hesitant to go much further. Again, Angus said it best: "Of course, if your students are not ardent enthusiasts of great writing then their time and yours is completely wasted here ."

The question for me is, who are your students? Are they college-aged or middle-aged? It makes a huge difference, in my experience.

Are they, if they're young, still discovering the pleasures of reading and writing? Are they unsure of their futures, looking for a profession, looking for relationships before all else? Are they, in short, confused and anxious and unsure of their skills and even their interests?

If that's the case, some of the good advice here can put a damper on a kid's enthusiasm, as several folks have noted. The let-it-all-hang-out approach, encouraging them to explore is probably best here. But again, the posts that usually result from such explorations by young people don't often make compelling reading for the more experienced reader. Such posts, once written, will tell you as a teacher and them as would-be writers a lot about how best to proceed.

I realize I haven't answered your question. But I could be of more help -- or at least blather on longer -- if I knew who you were working with and what they brought to your classroom.

Cheers
If you want them just writing, without regard to audience and/or response, starting with personal experiences is the easiest way, I think. But these tend to be self-conscious things, I think, and if they aren't done with humor, become quickly boring.

Passion is the best thing. Find a cause. Celebrate a culture. Ask them to think about what they talk about the most, and there's a good starting point.

And don't whine. That's the worst turn-off of all.

And....tell them to just play with language.

And as mentioned, have them read the blogs of others. Then they'll vicariously see what good blogs are.
Maybe cultivate a voice and persona that you can sustain.
Thanks for so many helpful ideas! My students are all adults, who are also my seminary students (the writing workshop is one of several electives they are allowed to choose.) I'm trying to inspire expressive, relflective writing because that will build the skills they need to be good homilists and liturgists. For many of them, in addition to wanting those skills for their work as ministers, there is a desire to write for its own sake; for creative satisfaction. I hope you'll be "seeing" some of them here in a week or two.
oh, i didn't know you were teaching people to write homilies. It is a dangerous, easily misused form in my view. More often lost in the speaking than in the writing. I'm not sure acting or improv isn't at least as effective a training.

my rules: learn to look into their eyes, let their eyes look into you, keep it short, and don't advise anything you don't practice, and even if you do, don't rub it in.
Ben Sen: When I was learning to write homilies, the best advice I ever got was to use personal stories about experiences that had been important in my life. I have always tried to do that, and have found that the more "me" there is in a homily, the more positively people respond. I don't give advice when I preach; I just talk about what inspires me, and why, using lots of examples from my life and from the lives of my near and dear ones (without, of course, violating anyone else's privacy.) I know there are some readers and blogger on OS who hate all religion and think there's no such thing as a good homily but...they're not my problem.
The best homily is "in" how we live and I don't think the formal faith or lack of it is what matters. But if you ask me whether I believe in 'god" I will not answer because it is too personal a question--the same as whether or not one is enlightened.
First, I disagree with "Will Someone Feel The Cat" that spilling, and grammer matter. (double sic) Ideas matter. A fresh perspective matters. Writing from your gut matters. Style is no way, no how, nearly as important as substance.

But my real advice is writers is this truth I didn't learn while getting a degree in Creative Writing — Writers Write. If you are a writer or destined to be a writer, you will write. It is not a choice. It is not done by a set of rules like "once a week"

Lastly, I learned this trick from the best copywriter I ever worked with... "write like you were telling a story to your favorite aunt."

And lastly lastly, since I respectfully don't agree with much of anything written here by anybody, the job of a teacher is not to "teach" writing. I don't think that can be done. And all these tech problems and other little things are unimportant.

The job of a writing teacher is to inspire a student to find out what's inside and get it out in a way that satisfies both the writer and the reader.
Being a relic from the mid-to-late 20th century, when proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation were hallmarks of good writing, I fall in with those of your commenters who stress the merit of proofreading an entry before posting it. I rarely read entries that are studded with errors.

I would pass along one suggestion I learned from OS's own Torman when I first started blogging some years ago on another site. Bring variety to your posts. Try different themes, different voices, varied topics; these tend to be the most popular blogs as well as the most enjoyable for the writer.

For examples on OS, I would point to Torman's entries, a mix of humor, commentary, short fiction, and memoirs; Caroline Hagood's, an eclectic mx of poetry, film criticism, and social exposition; and At Home Pilgrim's, who can write baseball analysis worthy of Sports Illustrated one day and photos and text about wildlife mating (or not) in his backyard the next day.

Best of luck with your class, Eva!

-R-
Have fun. Write what you know; write experimentally. Keep the post between 500 - 700 words. Try to edit before you post. Remember that a blog entry is different than creative writing. Did I mention to have fun?
More and more interesting input. Even though I do something that's called "teaching writing" (and, amazingly, get paid for it) I'm not sure that teaching is an accurate description. I try to create conditions that will inspire people to find their own voices, as writers. And yes, there have been "writing teachers" who did that for me.
Actually, one of my main reasons for encouraging blogging is the fact that it gives beginning writers one of the same things they receive from being in a class: an audience.
I think your last comment is right on. If you can create the conditions where your students want to write, they will. And then they'll learn all the other stuff, because once they get into it, they'll want to learn all the methodologies your other commenters provided. And I also agree that blogs are a great way to communicate because of the feedback. Good luck.
I've taught blogging to post-secondary students for a while and most of the advice offered here is good. I also encourage students to be themselves, because authentic voice is one of the most important elements of a good blog along with the basics of spelling, grammar and good syntax. Another thing I stress is that it is up to them to determine how much personal information they reveal. THEY control their own privacy to a large extent.

Learning to web format their text and to add images, links and occasionally, videos, makes their blogs much more appealing to potential readers. And it is not difficult. If I can do it, anyone can!
Thanks for sharing your experience, Emma. More good advice! Did someone teach you the technical stuff? I know you live too far away but I wish you could teach me!
I'm one of the least qualified, but I surfed this site for at least a week and copied people who I thought we doing it right. Theres some great writers that don't do "tricks", just write. Others combine an image with words to get a particular point across. Then you have the people who embed a music video or some other kind, with what ever else you want to write. I had to stay in my comfort level because I couldn't use a computer at the time. I can tell your students this. I've learned more about writing in six months than I had in my entire life. Just some thoughts.
Eva: I just discovered a site your students could benefit from reading right here at OS. I found him at your site -- Pastor Anon. His writing is clean and clear and very wry. He makes his point with humor and imagination. Especially for your audience, your site & his should serve as positive (in every respect) examples of what a post can be and what it can provide.
Cheers again
No, I learned the basic tech stuff myself, and there is lots I still don't know. I use Wordpress because I think it is the easiest platform and has the most free stuff. I also have the luxury of being surrounded by more tech-minded students who sometimes delight in teaching me something.
Jeremiah: Pastor Anon is great! I hope my students will read his blog, as well as those of all my other "Favorites" (not that they shouldn't be reading OS, in general.)
One thing I've learned from this Open Call is that Open Salon bloggers have a lot to say about blogging! I've gotten more comments for this (and on a Saturday, no less!) than any other post I've written.
If I had to start over I'd be completely anonymous, rather than recognizable to those who know me. There are several issues I can't write about here. Work, mainly.

When I started, I wanted to do some poli-wonk stuff, but it was never as good as I'd have liked, mostly because it was all second-hand, I was just regurgitating the writers and commentators I enjoyed, back when I was writing letters to Salon on a rgular basis.

Then I figured out the idea was not to be as good as someone else, but to tell the stories only I could tell. Your own place in the story is the key.

I'm never very far from a pad and pen. My mind is a sieve and most of my best ideas have come and gone without ever being turned into stories. I was in a jail, waiting to visit my daughter. I noticed how unruffled everyone seemed. I made a note, "The shit we get used to." It appeared in my blog as "I ponder the things we get used to," and more than one reader wrote to say that line poleaxed 'em. It would not have been there had I not written down what I felt in that moment. There are better writers than yours truly. But they weren't in that room at that time to make that observation.

So tell me something only you can tell me.
I've never believed in the advice that you must write something at least once a week, or every day, or whatever. Sometimes the only way to allow something the time it needs to rise to the surface--and this seems especially true when writing a longer piece--is to lay off for a while. Then it works, and worms, its way to the surface and you have a new direction to take.

Most ruptures don't present themselves full-grown, but a little bit at a time, and then finally all at once. But once that happens, then you need to get it down, and quickly. Or it changes, it softens and begins to morph into something else. Anyway, perhaps it is a good idea to write something on a daily basis, like in a journal, or on the side of a stranger's garage, because it keeps the muscles supple for when they're really needed. I just don't seem to require this exercise anymore. I enjoy days or even weeks away from writing. Awful process really. Can't understand all the hoopla about it. It's awful. Just awful.
I'm with emma on the WordPress. That is one lovely editing platform.

Technical skills needed: Know how to do an active link, post a video, and use Photobucket or flickrphotos to store and post photos. Use "preview" to review your work before you publish.

And for God's sake, use Word, or even notepad, then copy and paste. OS can blank out an hours worth of work and it will not come back, no matter how much begging and pleading.

If you publish elsewhere, use the "links" in the left hand column to let your readers know of your other great works.

Read as much as you write. Rate and comment if you like the post. This helps with the reading comprehension, critical thinking, communication and socialization skills here. This is a community as well as a place to write.

Support each other and be kind. Not every post is an invitation to critique or engage in argument for argument's sake.

But most of all do have a good time with your writing. This is a place to fall in love with your craft and to dance with the keyboard, not to fight with it.
I would say read other blogs until you find at least 10 that you consistently like. Comment on those blogs as you are able.

This does two things: reading blogs you like consistently will help you develop your own craft (blogging is a little different than standard creative writing), and it will help connect you with a few people who may return the favor. It is nice to find a few people who are constructive commenters for your own blog - some people are too afraid to say anything beyond "nice job."
Hi Eva! My advice would be to value authenticity. Write as if you're talking to a friend and you'll discover your true voice. I'm also a big fan of letting a piece rest a bit rather than posting it right away. When you come back to it, you'll be seeing it with fresh eyes and any awkward phrases, etc., will just jump out at you. As someone else said, reading the piece aloud before posting it helps perfect its flow. Any repetition or clumsiness will be instantly apparent to your ear.

Good luck teaching your writing workshop. Wishing you plenty of eager learners!
I know a lot of people will disagree with me on this, but I think good writing advice is to write every day. Even if it's a short post, writing every day is like exercising your writing muscle. I find that if you get in the habit of posting something once a day, it becomes a routine and you may write something that you never expected to write. Some of my best posts were ones that I had no intention of writing but when I sat down to write, that's what came out. Writing, like everything else, gets better with practice and consistency.

If they can't write every day, then reading is the next best thing. When you read a lot, the writing comes more easily.

And don't be afraid to experiment and try new things--today I followed Kathy Riordan's villanelle and tried one of my own. Then others followed me and some great villanelles came out of it. And believe me, if you told me I would write a villanelle today I would never have believed it!
I concur with the commenter who wrote "write what you know" but I add to that write what you want to know. It inspires research, reading and learning. Writing for me has always been about growth. Of course you should proof your scribblings, but mistakes happen. Read others and offer feedback, accept the feedback you receive with good grace.