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Contributing author of The Moment (Harper Collins). Former stripper, current writer working on forthcoming memoir Pour Some Sugar On Me: Tales from an Ex-Stripper. Activist. Public Speaker. Cancer survivor.

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JANUARY 19, 2010 4:48PM

Tale From an Ex Stripper; The Customer Is Always Trite

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Copyright © 2010 By Christine Macdonald | All Rights Reserved

Customers of strip clubs are like used cars in auto malls; there is always a variety of inventory, and each one wishes you would ride them.

The majority of this Hodgepodge of Horny were harmless, lonely men. Not surprisingly, I describe my old stripper-self the exact same way. Perhaps both ends of the stage simply wanted an escape. Always making for an interesting adventure, the different characters in the audience would never disappoint. Allow me to paint you a picture of just a few.

The College Guy

This type of customer was a classic example of a wolf in sheep’s clothing. On second thought, they were more like boys in mens clothing. At first glance, I’d think he’s young and clean cut, so I would rest easy working my way up to them on the stage. Once positioned and face-to-face with the darlin’ scholars, I’d smile, dance a little, and lift my garter for them to place a tip. More often than not, College Guy smiled, kept staring at my ta-tas, but made no attempt to fetch their wallet. At this moment, any stripper realizes, College Guy is a euphemism for Poor Guy; not to be confused with Cheap Guy, who is much lower on the stripper-tolerant scale.

If College Guy really liked you, (and you had patience) you could get a dollar from him after about four songs. It was a lot of work for a buck, but you had to respect a guy for squeezing in mid-terms with strip-bars, and fitting in a stripper tip on a mac-and-cheese budget.

Drug Dealer Dude

Steadfastly calm and rarely perched directly under the lights on the stage, Drug Dealer Dude was a subtle and loyal fixture within the walls of stripper debauchery. Although neatly tucked in the shadows, spotting them in the club was never difficult. Drug Dealer Dudes were usually surrounded by a bevy of beauties donning not much more than a g-string and smile. Count me in as one of the gals in line to schmooze for some mind-altering merchandise.

In 1990’s Waikiki, the most popular substances in the skin trade were cocaine and MDMA (Methylenedioxymethamphetamine), commonly known as Ecstasy, “E” or “X”. Occasionally, you would smell Marijuana being puffed back stage, but the real action was in pills and powder.

Always the consummate salesmen, Drug Dealer Dudes were entertaining to hang out with, but not really the greatest customers. Unless they had a crush on one of the girls, or were lost in a girlfriend-fantasy (some strippers usually slept with them for free drugs), Drug Dealer Dudes never really tipped.

Mr. Married

Here is a group of men who made me feel like I was on the witness stand in the proverbial Justifying My Life trial. It’s safe to assume dancing for wedding rings was not my favorite. I was always reminded of what a cliché I was. I am not sure if it’s because they may have had children of their own, but married men always questioned my career choice.

What does your father think of you doing this? I was asked. I don’t have a dad was my usual answer. He left when I was two. I over-shared.

After learning I was fatherless, Mr. Married customers would usually continue the interview.

…Okay, then how does your mother feel about you being in here?

As if timing were customized, I paused for a moment, looked in Mr. Married's eyes while taking their left hand in mine and smile. Still gazing in their concerned eyes, I would lean in and point to their wedding ring and answer with my own personal question.

I don't know...how does your wife feel about you being in here?

Silence.

I usually received an uncomfortable touché look, and the subject was immediately dropped.

Japanese Tourists

For many reasons, Hawaii is one of the most popular tourist destinations for Japanese travelers, and strip bars were often on the agenda.

Tour buses would deliver flocks of these Japanese businessmen and their mistresses. These types of customers were the hardest to dance for, in my opinion. They treated strippers with the utmost disrespect. We usually put up with the abuse, because they were also the highest paying tippers.

Japanese Tourist men loved to blow cigarette smoke in your face; this stripper was not a fan. I don't know if it was a power-trip subservient thing, but these types of customers really had you work for your tips. Commands of bend over and open-open were accompanied by smoke-blowing in our faces and lady bits. Talk about working for your money.

Most of the Japanese tour groups came in big numbers, and with their mistresses sitting next to them, it was not uncommon for a full stage of customers to sit and watch you perform.

Positioned quietly next to their men, the petite mistresses would sit and smile. I always wondered what these ladies were thinking, so I found ways to entertain them. After a while I realized I could literally double my money if I simply made the ladies feel present.

Stripping for the Japanese Tourists Mistresses was different than tolerating the men. I preferred it actually. Instead of dancing sexy (that made them uneasy), I created a little game. I took one of the dollars in the stack in front of them, folded it and placed it in their hands. I then took my breasts and scooped the bill up with my cleavage right from their hands. The mistresses laughed, covering their mouths and started to have fun. I then taught each mistress how to “high five” with their hands and made a point to clap and cheer each time they tipped me. Before long, those mistresses were waving their dollars to play the booby-tipping-high-five game with me. I found a way to double my money.

The Girlfriend

Once in a while, a couple would come in the bar and after some cocktails, venture up to the stage for a closer look. One of the most popular fantasies of straight men is to watch two beautiful women together. I always had fun playing part in the fantasy. I felt comfortable, respected and adored when dancing for a woman and her man. I think women in general are competitive by nature, so it's no surprise that I considered their tips to be one of the highest compliments to receive. I always wished more couples came in the club. I think it’s a sexy and lovely fantasy to play out, if both parties are respectful of one another’s boundaries.

Military Boys

Oahu is a military stomping ground, with every service base and reserve station on the island within a fifty mile radius. On any given day, you would find your share of service men spending their hard earned dollars at the strip bars. Payday for them was always the 1st and 15th of every month, so you knew to work a double shift on those days if you wanted to rake in the dough.

Outside of a few isolated drunken incidents including fist fights and police arrests (usually when they were in large groups), my experience with Military Boys in the clubs was one of gratitude. They drank heavily and tipped even heavier, if they took a fancy to you. You just had to be careful not to break their young, starry-eyed hearts.

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Me, I was the guy who came in to drink a couple beers and relax. I rarely sat at the stage, I didn't like the lights. I always tipped each dancer. I figure they were working for tips, they were giving me something to do while I had my beer, they deserved it. 2 beers, 30 minutes later, I was gone.
I was right. I like the way you write. Thank you for sharing such original material so eloquently, rated.
Good article, nice pacing, with a whiff of sexuality in the title, and little hooks as you segued from one stiff to another; you may have seen me some night. I was The Guy Unwillingly Dragged In By Friends Who Enjoyed This Sort Of Thing - no tips from this schmuck but he never kept his eyes averted.
Every story has its cast of characters. Yours just happen to be more colorful than most. Having worked for a Japanese firm a long time ago, I recognize the men you describe. I'm getting an education and the only homework is to give you a high rating.
Rated
next, go ahead and classify your OS commenters in the same way :p
so what are you doing now?? its amazing you have such good memory for something that happened close to 2 decades ago. it must have been a real defining moment for ya
have you heard of the story of diablo cody? stripper, blogged, decided to write script, wrote brilliantly, hit movie, won writing oscar. phenomenal. also has a book out on stripping. highly recommend it. maybe you could give your reactions in the blog. unfortunately her winning streak got crushed with "jennifers body", a megan fox vehicle that tanked.... anyway, I think you write with as pretty much color as she does, wink
This is my favorite post yet!
@Catnlion - Your type was always very kind, and respectful. I always sensed the reservations with you. On behalf of strippers, thank you. :)

@Thoth - It's a joy to share, actually and very cathartic. You are welcome and thank YOU!

@Daniel E Walsh - Ha ha ha, I love it! I think I have seen you!

@Donna - Thank you, I am happy you stopped by. You are so right, every story has a cast of characters!

@vzn - That's a great idea! :) You sit the nail on the head with the memory comment. I keep telling my boyfriend, Kevin, how there is no way my book will layout in chronological order because I simply don't remember many things. Luckily the more I type and the more photographs I scan, the memories are getting clearer.

PS: Diablo Cody is one of my all time favorite people (from what I read and see on interviews). I am just digging in to Candy Girl now, and am so excited! You really made my eyes tear up with your compliment, thank you!

@thatguykevin - Thank you! :)
Um... sluts is not a nice word 101. Anyway, interesting and entertaining post. I think most women find a cast of characters in the night life, whether they are a patron of the bars and clubs or working in one. I worked as a cocktail waitress when I was younger and was often treated as a sex object fully clothed. I must admit, when I have been in a strip club - I struggle to have fun because I want to take every girl in there and hug them, I saw such sadness in their eyes.
PS - you are a beautiful lady and a very creative writer. Look forward to more!
That last comment (101) is an angry, unstable person (in my opinion) who has been deleted by OS and will be again.

Thank you for getting my back and the lovely compliment, sister. :)

You are so correct about the sadness in our eyes. More on that to come.
Wonderful insight to a colorful world once again Christine. Thanks for the peek.
I have to agree with Thoth. I ventured (reluctantly as I am happily married) to a couple of clubs on the road when I worked for ESPN. I think you may have touched on this one, but what about "Smarmy Business Man on a Trip"? I guess that's "married guy". Now I'm married and I would not go sit at the stage as I felt this was definitely crossing the boundary of my marriage.

I sat at the table, enjoying a drink, being polite to the ladies who approached the table and thanking them for the offers of private dances and that I was happily married, but very and always respectively declined. I know that job is a tough one. Strip clubs weren't around this area prior to my marriage, so I can't speak of what I would have fit into prior. Most likely college guy gone even broker, because I have a generous heart.

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It's definitely a hard job and not 'just sliding on a pole'. I would never judge the men who came in, but I thought I would paint a picture of the types of customers who did frequent the clubs regularly. Thank you for treating us with respect. It's a paradox, sometimes, I know, because the business itself can be quite dark. Everyone has a story. I am simply telling mine.
Thank you for taking the time to read and commdent. It truly means a lot. :)
Have you read Lily Burana's work? Any comments?
No, I have not yet. I will share my comments for sure after I complete! Thank you. xo
I worked as a stripper for 6 years, mostly in LA, and my experience with the types of men is vastly different than yours, almost opposite to your experience, in fact. And in my experience there are plenty of women who are not at all competitive. Not to be hostile or argumentative at all, just wanted to point out that your experience is not necessarily universal, as the way this is written implies that it is.
OMG! That's a story I would see live in the flesh all the time! Thaks for sharing... :)
This was a fun read. I've always been curious what that life was like for the girls. And it probably depends on which club you work. New Orleans had a club on Bourbon st. that I went into and the girls did have sad eyes..
Thank you for taking the time to read and comment, Lorilei. I also worked in LA for a bit when I ventured off the island of O'ahu. I danced at the Seventh Veil and Girls Girls Girls. You are correct -- the audience is different in each place. I was not implying my excperience was universal. I was painting a picture of the typical types of people who I came across in Waikiki for the 10 years I worked there as a stripper.

I appreciate your feedback. I will be sure to watch my tone. :)
Tone is good, Christine. If you know what I'm sayin'...
Thanks Miss Adams. I have never been to a strip bar in New Orleans, but I imagine there were (and still are) strippers who have sadness behind their eyes. These comments inspire me to explore this further. Stay tuned.
I'm 54 years old and have never patronized one of these establishments. Am I a prude? No. I'm of the opinion that I would have preferred to spend my time looking for a date or partner. The outcome would have been better for me.

As for the women who work there, I have nothing but repsect for them. It has to be the most unglamourous work in the universe. Reading from your post, its patrons leave a lot to be desired.

I rather have great conversation with an exotic dancer in a restaurant with her non work clothes on, than go to her place of employment. It's just not who I am. Besides we wouldn't be talking about what she does for a living either. Shop talk on a date is dull, whether you're a rocket scientist, athlete, or stripper. People want other to know more about them than their job title.

Excellent writing here. Rated
@OESheepdog - I don't believe you are a prude at all! I like that you knew you didn't want to be involved in such a world for meeting women. It's so true, what you say about spending your time meeting women and looking for a partner. In my personal expiernece, strippers are not emotionally available in so many ways; they strip for their own reasons, and for me anyway, meeting a man was not on the list.

@Lonnie - Thank you. I appreciate the comment and compliement. :)
What a fascinating look into a life I've never led. Thank you for sharing, Christine.
I'm sure this is all true. Not having ever been in a strip club, I wouldn't know.

~cough~
When I was young and unmarried, I managed topless go go dancers so they did not need pimps, drugs, and corrupted club owners. I got them their costumes made, their hair styled, their tans, and their transportation as well as their money. All they owed me was 15 percent of each gig and to show up on time. They took drug tests, they saved their money in a fund we set up with a bank, they went to college and they never had to engage in any type of underground dealings. The clubs loved it, the girls loved it and I made money.
Rule #1...don't date the hired help.

Rule#2...keep it professional

Rule#3 Hire all lesbians.
Having been everyone of them except Japanese and the Girlfriend, you've hit the proverbial nail on the head. Great Post!!
@Ashkw - What is the most fascinating to me, is the life of normalcy. I remember thinking 'all I want is an ordinary life'...when I was in the middle of my own turmiol as a stripper. Thank you for the comment.

@Cap'n - I smell your sarcasm from here. :)

@MadamRuth - Thank you! The more I share, the more I realize my personal story is one of interest and I am happy to dig deeper and keep writing.

@T.S. - I have never heard of anyone like you! I am impressed! My only experience with club owners and managers were that of highly disorganized and greedy people; not to mention mean. If you gained any weight, you would hear about it! I applaud your rules, too. =)

@Will - Yup, that pretty much sums it up! The novelty can wear off after about 15 minutes, unless you were one of the 'regular' fixtures in the crowd.
@Scanner - Thank you!!! There are many more, but those particular types came to mind while writing. Thanks so much for taking the time to read and comment.
Christine,
Lily is on facebook--you might want to try friending her. She's very approachable.
Lorraine
I have to agree with Will. Strip clubs are great in theory but in reality not so much. Every year I go just to remind myself how much I hate them. You expect a wild and crazy, drunken party atmosphere but every strip club I've ever been to the patrons seemed sedated and the dancers robotic. The DJs do their whole "let's make some noise" shtick but all the dancers get is a few half-hearted bits of applause.
Nothing is more revealing than movement. - Martha Graham
I don't get it. Why would I pay overpriced cover charges and crazy drink prices to watch a woman who has no interest in me whatsoever, and in many cases actually despises me, take off her clothes? Seriously, can anybody explain this in a way that doesn't justify the skin trade aspect of this that might help me understand what a man gets out of this?
@zencaster - You make very valid points. Your comment is a common statement (and question) I hear often. Every person has a story, so it's impossible to generalize why men would attend a strip bar, just as it would be to explain why I (and all strippers) chose such a profession. This is a subject I will wrap my head around in an up-coming post, but, for now, I will simply say; Escape.
I hope you write a similar post describing the types of women who dance in strip clubs. It would make for an interesting contrast.
Already in the works.... :) Thank you!
why? Well, to remember their youth of course. So tip, but don't touch!
So, I'm curious how you'd have dealt with me. I am never the one who wants to go to a strip club, but if enough of my friends want to, I end up going. I always bitch about it, saying, look it's like being a kid in a candy store where they let you look at the candy, they wave the candy in front of your face, and they even toss the candy in your lap but they don't let you eat it.

So I'm the one sitting there with not a smirk, but a kind of seen it all look, watching the girls work and tipping them and chatting with them. And generally speaking, they will say something that amuses me and I'll end up in a private room with them.

For example, when I was in Vegas, I ended up in a private room with a dancer who was talented, and cute, but who did the funniest thing. She was trying to grab her tip with her breasts, and then she just blurted out "my boobs aren't big enough!" I laughed, and it was endearing in a strange way. So after her set was over, it was off to the private room.

I ended up taking her to dinner the next day. But I never thought she thought of me as more than a client whose company she enjoyed.
@Noah - Truer words have never been spoken. :)
@Tony - What a fantastic story, thank you for posting this!

Your Vegas Stripper Friend sounds a lot like me in that she was, to use your word, endeering. Honest people (men, women, stripper or librarian) have a way of weaving through certain filters. When spoken from a good heart, this characteristic can only be seen as charming and attractive.

I think what your friend did by amitting she was not built well enough to accept a tip in such a 'sexy way' unvelied her honesty and charm, in a totally organic way.

Perhaps what made you smile, tip and ultimately purchase a private show was not only her external beauty, but because you were ablt to see a little more (what a true beautiful person posseses - an honest heart). That's just my asumption based on what little I know! :)

What I woud have thought of you -- especially if I accepted your dinner invite -- was that you seemed to be a kind and honest person as well.

For me, it was not difficult to decipher the puppies from the pit bulls in the stripper audience. I would say you were a good guy, who was a lot of fun to be around (hence the date)!

Either that, or she was just hungry.
I love your blog and have been reading for a while. I'm honored you're a reader of mine! God bless you and all you've been through.
Nice post, Christine.

Having just passed the half-century mark, I think I would fall decidedly into the "creepy dude" category if I was to visit a stripper bar these days. But I have fond memories of the days when I was somewhere in the "Band member/part-time boyfriend" category.

Ahh, memories!
I have a friend of mine that is a DJ in the strip bar industry. I don't go over there much - maybe 2 or 3 times a year - but I do have a funny story to pass along to you about the last time I was there.

He is working at a new place (for him) here in the Detroit area. When I'm there, I do hang out with him in the DJ booth (this is NOT glamorous) - anyway as I'm sure you know the dancers come and go from this place all night.

I end up chatting with one young lady who was waiting to request certain songs for her upcoming stage set.

Not being too sure what is the appropriate thing to ask, I do end up saying "hey J____ is new here and he likes it a lot. Why did you pick this place?"

She says very matter of factly, "it's the first place I've danced where 80% of the dancers are NOT prostitutes...."
I liked the way you classified the types. I never really cared for strip joints. It was too frustrating to see a beautiful scantly-clad woman do a provocative dance in front of me knowing I was not going to have sex with her. I took my chances at bars and clubs.
You've provided a valuable slice of life for when I write my next novel. totally rated.
Absolutely brilliant breakdown of men's commercial sexuality. Coming a family of women who historically have had no problem shedding Threads for Benjamins, , I have met when working as a driver, and bodyguard for them on their gigs, in my youth, all the men you mentioned, and more. (I suspect you played your cards close to the vest here and that there may very well be a few other "types" you decided not to cover here, since people can be so stupid about this subject to begin with.

I thought your study of men who come to pay for dancers was loving, funny, generous, and right on target.
Kudos
Piero
@zyskandar - What a beautiful pieice. Thank you for sharing such emotion from on my page. Truly lovely.

@365days - Thank you! I feel the same way. Hugs to you xxoo

@Jamie - I bet you do! Those memories are what life is all about, isn't it?

@jbrandimore - That's so funny (and true)!. I have worked with many girls who 'tricked' on the side. I have many stories about their litttle 'tricks'... lol I know what you mean about the DJ booth, too...very smalll, loud and smoke filled!

@Trudge - This is a comment I hear often. I don't know if it's because a man would think he would score with a dancer, or that he just didn't want to be frustrated. I think a little of both. I'm happy to took your chances at the dance clubs. How'd it work out??? :)

@oldnewlefty - Ohhhhh, I am interested to know more about this novel! Stay tuned for more slices from me.

@Piero -- Thank you so much for your lovely comment and compliment. You are correct in that there are still a few items up my sleeve; waiting to be unveiled at the right time.
Christine -- you are right. It's when I get a little insight into the personality of the dancer and it catches my interest that I'm more inclined to spend money and time with her. Anyone can get fake boobs and twirl around a pole. Yes, it's hard work, but anyone can learn how to do it. When I get to see something else revealed, that's more interesting, and that's what gets me inclined to whip out the credit card.

In reading your post, what amazed me is the married men that you wrote about. What the hell is wrong with them? It's a business transaction. She's taking her clothes off for you, and you're paying to see it. Stop with the psychoanalyzing!

It's funny that I'm telling that to you at the same time I'm saying that in order for me to want to spend money on a dancer, she's got to reveal a little bit of her soul and her personality to me.

I guess I want to see someone reveal something to me that they don't reveal to everyone else. In a strange way, I guess the dancers who are successful in separating me from my money are stripping for me. But they're exposing not just their body, but something far more intimate...their inner self.
At the dance floor, it was 30:70. I scored 30% of the time, but went home empty-handed 70% of the time.
What fascinating tales about a world I know nothing about other than an acquaintance I know who makes a fortune owning two of them. The truth is almost always more interesting than the Hollywood version. Very well written.
@Tony - It's always about what is on the inside, isn't it? I agree with you 100%. I also believe that those inner qualities we find so attractive are natural - unforced; nother reason to be pulled in the direction of Live vs. Memorex.

Thank you for your insight and comments. It's great to share our thoughts on our experiences. From both sides of the stage.

Regarding those married men and psychoanalysis. My opinion is that they wanted to take me in, be the daddy I never had etc. I also think part of it was to appease their own pangs of guilt for being in a strip bar to begin with. Projection is a powerful thing. :)

@Trudge - Ah yes... the money... lot's to be paid when the dancer is connection to their customers. :)

@cartouche - Thank you for reading and taking the time to comment. The truth really does write itself here. I couldn't make this stuff up if I tried. xo
You hit the nail on the head . I miss those days . Lots more stories to tell ! Do keep telling I love reading them .
Cool descriptors. Keep them coming please. Rated.
Christine,

With your memoirs, you have given me and the rest of the world, a thrilling, voyeuristic peek into a profession most of us know little about. To hear the stories from other side of this seamy underworld is fascinating and poignant. There are real girls on those poles. Real girls who once had different dreams. Your posts paint a portrait so vivid and undeniable and I cannot get enough of the tales. I'll be first in line for that book!
Love it. You've taken me into a world I knew nothing about (a 29-year-old man who's never been to a strip club!). Love the comparison between you and the customers, and the contrast between the Japanese businessmen and their mistresses.
I've known a lot of ex-strippers, and people who have tried to help them when they decide they want to get out of the buisness. For the vast majority of girls, this turns out to be, at least to some degree, a life-ruining experience. The personality you develop to survive an 8-plus hour a day shift in a strip club for several years becomes part of you, whether you want it to , or realize it or not... and these traits do not fare you well in the real world when you leave stripping. The fact that virtually no one, including the girls understand that, makes the chances of "deprogramming of those "stripper personality" traits pretty dismal. One thing that would help is for people to stop writing "memoirs" that make the stripping industry seem mainstream. chic/edgy, victimless, using salacious titles and cover art to lure in readers hoping for "Penthouse Forum"-type stories that makes the stripping experience seem sexy. Club owners who profit fom this industry know better than anyone that for most girls, to some extent, this seriously harms their lives, and the fact that they can point out exceptional cases in their defense just shows that they know that the res have been harmed. Radical feminists see this as "empowering", but the club owners get rich and most of the girls leave broke, addicted and damaged, often with children, just leaving the club owner looking for more girls to "empower".
I spoke with a 70-year old man I know who has spent his entire adult life helping girls get out of stripping and/or prostitiution, and
he told me that the most difficult thing to restore was honesty.
Please dont write another "Candy Girl" or "Strip City" or a similar
whitewashed bullshit memoir which glosses over the pain that this experince puts these women through, often for the rest of their lives. because young women need to know that the "easy money" of stripping doesnt come for free. To do so would be....well, a "stripper" move.
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