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[eeeeeeww] What's that green stuff?

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Broccoli            

 

       

 

            I love vegetables because I’ve been eating them since I can remember putting food in my mouth. My daughter loves vegetables because I fed them to her as soon as she could chew. Her daughter loves…

 

            You get it, I know. But if you didn’t start when your kids were so young that they did almost anything you told them, it’s not too late. It will be harder, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try.

 

            Picture a kid in a highchair with a tray full of Cheerios, pudgy fingers chasing oat-y circles, some stuck to her drool-sogged t-shirt. Nothing wrong with Cheerios, for kids or adults (Mot eats them every..single..morning), but they aren’t vegetables.  Let’s say that kid is teething (or not, doesn’t matter). Toss a handful of frozen peas on her tray. Or frozen corn kernels. Not expensive, organic peas that you shelled and blanched yourself in your nonexistent spare time and then placed lovingly in individual (expensive) Ziploc freezer bags.  Frozen peas or corn from the giant economy package you bought at your neighborhood grocery store (or Walmart, though I personally think I will be electrocuted if I walk in that door, so I don’t). 

 

            And let me say that I know peas and corn are not technically vegetables, peas being legumes and corn a grain, but they’re also not French fries or Froot Loops. 

 

            Frozen vegetables are fine. Not canned but frozen. Frozen green beans are often better than what you can find fresh unless you live where they grow, and fresh green beans can be really expensive. Frozen are also available all year long, not just when the fresh stuff is in season. Not the frozen veg with the butter sauce or whatever other horrible crap is in there – don’t ever buy or eat those – just the unadorned single ingredient (no added onions, peppers, no ComboWithSomethingElse thing).  Beans, green: French cut, whole, Italian, whatever.

 

            Back to raw vegetables for a minute, because they are better but only if they’re available and affordable.  Here are a couple that are available all year, are not exotic, are usually affordable, you can buy once a week and cook once or, in the case of carrots, will last in your refrigerator that long.

 

            A carrot is universally beloved, right? Who doesn’t like a carrot? I don’t understand it, but some kids hate them cooked (when they’re sweeter?) but love them raw. So who says the vegetable on your kid’s dinner plate has to be hot? Peel (or scrub) raw carrots, hold out a handful for the Cooked Carrot Hater, cook the rest in salted water (more on that later) for the rest of the gang, et voila. If you adults want some herb butter on yours or a chiffonade of mint, knock yourself out, but taking your kids’ carrots out of the pan before you do that takes zero extra time and you really shouldn’t expect a three-year-old to eat a chiffonade of anything. Most kids, for the first several years of their lives, like single-taste, identifiable food, no mixing, no casseroles, no sauce.

 

            Broccoli. Notwithstanding George H.W. Bush’s childish whine, it is a very easy vegetable to like. If you prepare it correctly, it is a vegetable to love. I can’t get enough of the stuff; we probably eat it three times a week. Here’s the deal:

 

            Buy fresh broccoli with dark green tops, florets that look like they are fat with moisture, stems (trunks, we call ‘em) that are hard and stiff. No floppy trunks. (No smart-ass comments either.)  Rinse the whole thing, cut off any yucky spots. Cut the florets off near where they join the trunks, drop in a large skillet with a couple inches of water in the bottom.  With a paring knife trim the bottom off the trunk, trim the big branches off like you’re whittling a piece of wood (or, if they’re really big, cut them off the trunk and treat them like a trunk). Then hold the trunk in one hand, bottom up, and peel that tough, pale green skin by catching an edge of it with your knife and thumb and pulling it toward you and down. Julia Child said, “You must peel broccoli,” and she was, as usual, right. It takes an extra two minutes to peel, and once you do it, you’ll be a peeler for life, I promise.

 

            Or don’t peel it. I won’t know.

 

            Cut the trunks into coins about a half-inch thick, pitch those into the skillet with the florets, push the trunks to the bottom, letting the florets float on the top trunk side down, salt the water, put a lid on it and turn the burner to high. When the water is fully boiling and enough condensation has collected on the lid to get the exposed broccoli wet and hot and into the whole cooking thing, take the lid off and cook just until the thickest trunk section is easily pierced with a fork. If you use a big enough skillet and crank the burner up, the cooking part shouldn’t take more than five or six minutes total (especially if they’re peeled, but who’s pushing?). Let me reiterate: use a flat, wide pan, commonly known as a skillet.  If you pile a bunch of broccoli into a high-sided saucepan, you will do two things: increase the cooking time because all that water has to boil, and the chances of overcooking greatly increase. Also, don’t stir the broccoli in the skillet while it’s cooking: you want whole, perfect florets, not broccoli mush.

           

            Drain immediately. If you’re me, you’ll add tiny bits of butter to melt on the hot broccoli and a couple grinds of black pepper.  Fat tastes good, and kids think so too. A little bit doesn’t hurt, especially if it makes vegetables taste good enough that they’ll eat them.  I almost forgot. Salt makes food taste good too: ask any chef about unsalted food. Salting food in the early stages of cooking means no one needs to add salt later. The salt that is bad for you are those vast quantities of it in processed food, which you should avoid (for far more reasons than the salt) whenever possible. 

 

            I have two huge All-Clad skillets that I cook damn near everything in. I can cook three very large heads of broccoli in one skillet, so I buy that much and cook them for one dinner, storing what we don't eat in the fridge to microwave for one minute for lunch or another dinner’s veg. Three big heads of broccoli are ten ordinary servings of broccoli, six if you’re me and Mot. 

 

            If you overcook broccoli, it tastes truly awful. When it’s gone from bright green to olive green, it smells a little like sewage. It’s a chemical thing that most green vegetables do, which explains why too many people hate them. Don’t walk away from the stove or get on the phone. The protein and the starch, if any, can wait on the dinner plates for those perfect vegetables to be dropped off last.

 

            One more thing.  A normal serving of starch for a kid is no more than a half-cup of cooked whatever (rice/pasta/potatoes). The veg serving should be the same size. If the kid is hungry, has eaten all the starch and wants more, they don’t get any until the veg is gone. More veg is always fine, as much as the kid will eat.

 

            Next, Fruit. Or maybe how to get dinner on the table in half an hour (really). Or Those Other Vegetables. I’m on kind of a roll. Stay tuned.

 

 

 

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it doesn't have to be Food War II.

some people will sprinkle a tiny amount of grated cheddar on the veg, but that doesn't work if all the kid does is pick the cheese off and eat that.
Wouldn't it be easier to give them pizza? Pizza has all the food groups in it and is dropped off at your front door by a struggling artist; it's a win-win situation.
I got my kids to eating veggies at an early age because that was what I was raised eating a lot of, being raised on a farm, I had little choice most times. Broccoli has long been one of my favorites.
wait, nana. i may have to rethink this. does the pizza guy look like george clooney?

i know, david. though we were in a city, we didn't have much money when i was young, so there were always more vegetables on our plates than meat. thanks. it's always good to see you.
Whatever happened to no dessert if you don't eat your vegetables?
I am currently munching on crispy oven-cooked kale "chips" as we speak! 60 cal. for a big bowl and they satisfy my crunchy fried craving.
Broccoli is one of those vegs, like brussel sprouts, which can be divine or disgusting, depending on a couple of minutes of cooking time. I steam mine till emerald green and al dente and add good cheese right at the end of the cooking, so it melts. Love it! Can be a filling, whole meal, maybe with an egg on the side.
I'm with you on the sewage part and the "if you've eaten your veggies you can have more of..." I do enjoy my broccoli in a baked potato, though...so that kinda kills two birds with one stone! :-)
Can I play?! You know I'm totally in love with this. We could write a book you know, and not that Jessica Seinfeld bullshit about hiding the vegetables in other things so that kids don't know they are eating them and learn to like them. Broccoli and carrots also taste great grilled, and when you slice the stem you get those beautiful, abstract "flowers" that Sam used to hunt out of each serving.............
George Clooney? Maybe in California, but around here they usually look more like Carrot Top.
Funny, you should write about broccoli today. I've already had two conversations about it before reading this post. I almost live on veggies and like to eat the light green trunk (but not the very rough end) of the broccoli raw. Does that make me weird? Plus, I find I get a boost of energy from it. Agreed, nothing like a sweet well-cooked carrot. Yum.

What about risotto with almond slivers and roasted caulifower florets? Serve anything asparagus - or artichokes for that matter - with a lightly chilled Sauvignon Blanc. But really, I just wanted to use the word florets in a sentence. :)
My kids always loved vegetables, so I never got the "ewwwww" -- a lot of aversions are related to texture rather than taste, so you're right, don't overcook it!
You are absolutely right about starting them young. I've never been much of a vegetable eater and had the body to prove it. Since I've been trying to get fit, I've tried to expand my vegetable repertoire and have learned that I actually like (or have learned to like) a lot of things I though I didn't. I've also learned how to prepare things I thought I didn't like to be good.
mumbles, a bedrock rule!! i think it go lost in the sands of time, though. :(

l: kale chips are reeeeeeally good. my granddaughter also eats nori the way some kids eat potato chips, but she's kinda weird.

lea, that's a perfect dinner, just perfect. thanks for the idea for tomorrow night!

OM: yes yes yes. broccoli, baked potato, a little cheddar=dinner. and that smell ... now, there's an eeeww. urg.

ann, yes, you may. and thank you for labeling that JS stuff as bullshit because it is. hiding the veg - pffffft. grilled, baked with crisp edges, on and on. i *love* the flower in the stem story - that's gorgeous.

nana, i do have standards. my kid's health is at least two steps above a romp with carrot top.

scarlett: ooh the cauliflower, and roasted is the best way. and no, here at casa de swell we fight over the trunks of the broccoli. it becomes an interested bartering game at the dinner table. how did you know that SB is my favorite summer wine?? mmmmm.

bell, my daughter has what she calls a huge texture problem with squishy things (e.g., plumped raisins) so nothing was ever overcooked here!

mojo, good on you for learning, even if it's kinda late. you're right, some food dislikes are assumptions, not real taste issues. thanks for stopping by, dude.
[sigh] so many mistakes in that comment: go/got; interesting. where's my big fat red pen?
Fresh.
I love (snap) frozen veges too.
The main thing for me, on any plate, is colour : red, yellow/orange, green & white. I think kids like colour too, and there's nothing as green as perfectly cooked broccoli.
Yummy post, Candace.
This is really good. My fifteen year-old daughter is beyond hope but there's still hope for me. I made spaghetti sauce tonight with fresh tomatoes, peppers, onions, broccoli and whole grain pasta. Lip smackin'
This was wonderful. Magical. Inspiring. A little garlic on the broc tastes good too. And have you ever made "fried" (sauteed) cauliflower? YUM

Also, boys will be more prone to eat these veggies if told what halatious farts they'll be making afterwards.
I came straight from Ann's post to yours--a double dose of the good stuff. I too refuse to eat a piece of limp, olive green broccoli. Life is too short. I've fed my eight year old fruits and veggies since she was a wee lass. Even started her on diluted fruit juice from her first sip and now she actually prefers homemade Izzys (juice and perrier). However, even with all my diligence, the culture has somehow seeped in and made her go batshit over sugary treats. It's hard to fight the cult of sugar. In my circles, when you start talking "health nut", eyes start to roll.

I will try the broccoli thing. Thanks for sharing.
Over broccoli tempura last night, pre-sushi, my friend and I were discussing how she used to dip broccoli into a paste of butter and brown sugar when she was pregnant. She found a funny, yet admirable, way to get her calcium and her blood sugar up for her and baby! (Ok, I know, you will go crazy about the sugar, but she was PREGNANT!!!)
Oh, all right. But is fruit okay? Oh, I see that's next.

I frequently cook up a mess of onion, peppers (all colors & heat) and mushrooms as a base for whatever-else (or on its own with curry sauce). Broccoli I eat a little of grudgingly now & then...tho a local grocery carries a raw broccoli salad with cranberries and sunflower seeds in mayo-type dressing that makes it go down quite pleasantly.
just love the asides, but the main you have refined into an art. i'm remembering the details here. when i was in moscow i learned that during the years of rationing salt was highly valued - if it came down to one seasoning that's the one. fine post. yum.
You are definitely on a roll, my dear! Keep it up and the First Lady will be referencing your blog. And, you are so right--introduce early and it makes a big difference.
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Preaching to the choir!

Broccoli last night was from a local organic farm. The skin was so tender, sweet and delicious, no peeling necessary. It is as different from supermarket broccoli as could be.
Steamed broccoli with butter and lemon--my favorite vegetable.
chop tops, salt, drizzle w/ oil, roast at 425 degrees for 10 mins in oven, or on grill until free leaves are brown and crunchy.

The way to a child's heart.... crunchy veg
I enjoyed this, Candace, there are so many easy ways to get "healthy and easy-to-do" into family diets.
I get how overwhelming it can be without some practice into what works, what's quick, what's actually eaten, and that's not even getting into trying soymilk or tofu! So many choices! Maybe I ought to write about comparing those types of "new" foods, or what our kids' friends would eat when they came to our "granola heads" house, as we've been called...or maybe you can : )
Nice post !
This post and Ann's comment made me think about that new V8 juice, I think it is, that supposedly tastes sweet like fruit, but it contains a serving or two of vegetables. And it's being marketed to adults. It was then that I realized that we have turned into a nation of babies. We can't even bear to eat vegetables anymore? Good lord.
What great timing! I've resolved to get more veggies into my family and this (in addition to Ann's post) is great. I cook broccoli the way GabbyAbby does, except I add three cloves of crushed garlic (whole cloves smashed with the fat end of a knife.) And I bought kale from the farmer's market last week and made chips - but the kids were off of them after one. To tell you the truth, I was too. Any other ideas for kale? And how am I supposed to make brussel sprouts taste good, because I missed that lesson. Oh - and I don't like cooked carrots. When they're soft and warm, it grosses me out. Probably left over from my childhood, but that's the way it is. I need to stop transferring my own aversion to veggies onto my kids, while they're still impressionable....
I'm in. (Olive oil, too, of course.) My grandpa knew a way kids would love to eat peaches . . .
@Jaime, cut off hard stem bottom on brussel sprouts, then cut in half, add oil and salt, then roast at 450 degrees, the same as broccoli heads. My kids always liked them plain but I also served a side of ranch dressing to dip into. The sugar in the veg comes to the edges and browns, making them sweet and crunchy.
yea! someone talking about healthy food. Read my latest post. And you will see my morning smoothy carrots and broccoli included!
I loves me veggies Candace.
This is a wonderful post full of goodness.
And the comments are the best evah honeychild.
*applause* My kid was a challenge for years, but now she chooses broccoli over french fries!!!!!
All great advice! Now, how do you tell whiny adults who hate vegetables that they need to suck it up and quit crying?
wow, look at all of you! from your comments, it looks like i'm preaching to the choir - but i hope there are some people reading but *not* commenting who are getting the message that it can be easy to get vegetables into their kids (and themselves) and they can taste great, even if they were raised by people who treated serving veg as punishment. sad sad thing.

some great suggestions in the comments - i'm taking notes!

i just spent two days with my incredibly wonderful, brilliant niece and her new(ish) husband here at Rancho Relaxo (her name for our place), which is why i've been MIA. thanks to everyone for reading this and writing great comments. Onward, Lovers of Broccoli!! :)
Great information here! I love cooking broccoli at work but it is so hard to keep it fresh and with no time to batch cook well...but I may just try this way and see if I can keep smaller amounts going I can keep it green! Thanks..
I did all this with my kids. After a while, you note that all the it's-so-easy-to-get-kids-to-eat-veggies raves are written by people with toddlers.

When they hit 5, they start getting picky. Picky means an veggie they haven't eaten recently gets nixed, meaning fresh, in-season veggies that are just coming into peak are out. If they haven't eaten the frozen variety all winter -- or if the frozen or out-of-season variety is mediocre --- the vegetable goes on the list of inedibles.

I did all the right things when my kids were toddlers and guess what? They adore doughnuts (which they hardly ever get served) and hate broccoli, which is a not infrequent menu item.
Personally I love the Broccoli and find it rather sweet too. Thanks for sharing my fave veg here.
Nope, not that hard. My way was plunking down the plate, with a nicely balanced meal upon it and saying "OK, that's dinner/supper. Eat what you like of it, or not. I really don't care. But if 'not,' then the next meal is in four hours, or eight hours, and there will be no more food until that time."
I've never seen an anorexic three-year old. I think a lot of child-parent food battles are just excuse for the child to push parental buttons. I took all that off the table by not being drawn into endless indulging of "I don't like this!" and "I'm not gonna eat that!" "Fine, sweetie - next meal is in four hours, suit yourself."
The kidlet turned out to be amazingly adventurous about food, so in this case it worked.
this is such a no-nonsense, easily absorbed, valid lesson, that i had to be sure it was you who wrote it. from you, candace my dear, i expect more saucy seasonings. in any case, thank you for this.
I am thinking of having kids just so I can try these ideas on them. (I'm a veggie freak and have been stressing about how to make sure any child I have would appreciate them, too, because I just don't believe ketchup counts as a vegetable.) Eagerly awaiting the next installment!
oh, my, this was funny! and fun. You need to have a program -- you're much better than Rachel Ray. Viral video on YT featuring Femme Forte's Food Filosophy???
I've always (well, almost) loved vegetables (except any okra outside gumbo that isn't fried), but even if I hated them I'd have ended up eating them. I've got a home movie of myself in a highchair. My mother is moving a spoon of peas to my mouth, which I close into a tight straight line, my little fists clenched on the tray in front of me. Mom pulls the spoon back, says nothing, and gives me The Look. My jaw drops and the peas enter.

The rule in my mother's house was you ate what was on your plate, even if you had to hold your nose to do it.