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FEBRUARY 18, 2012 12:53PM

The intense pleasures of outsourcing

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So many times in the last few decades I’ve had to contact customer service people for my defective products.

It used to be that rude Americans answered. I pictured plump or fat dye jobbed blondes , and other assorted American types. Sometimes you’d get surprised by a sweetheart. Dealing with disgruntled members of the public  could not be an easy or fun job. The public has never been pretty. It wasn’t personal.

 Then it was that Indians(Not the American kind) that  responded to the toll free numbers. They were pretty unpleasant too. I figured they were responding to the pressures of the caste system.

By all indications, it is now the Philipinos, that man the many call centers sprinkled throughout the vast universe.  

 Say what you will about the corporatization of our culture, customer service personell have become so so so polite.

With this Philiphino customer service crop, I picture them in some sweatshop , in Manila, being supervised to death. I see an Imelda Marcos lookalike sternly counseling them to eliminate any controversy or nuance from ever vowel.

“ In variouz studiez, corporationz have discov- urdered that signs of emotion decrease customer satisfaction izz-ewes, as well as profitz. You are being watched. Slip up and you will return to the slums!”

 On two occasions, I slipped up and said, “ Are you  a machine?” and was relieved when a robot’s voice replied, “ No. I.  Am.  Not machine.”

I meant no offense. I have zero interest in further stressing out low wage earners, who appear to have been spiritually sterilized, as it is.

These are very recent “conversations’ between me and a customer service agent, and a telemarketer.

Me: Hi. The printer is showing some error message. Won’t work.

Them: I am sorry to hear that, Sir. I am here to assist you with this Mat-hurrr.

Me: Actually, ha ha . It’s a ma’am. I sound like a man on the phone. In life, it’s supposed to be normal....I don’t blame you. I wish I could get an operation for this.

The voice: I am sorry for that miz—Under--- stand--ING, sir. Can you pleaze assist me, sir, with finding the warranty number that is prezent on the print-hurrr.

Me: Okay, you can just call me sir. Number 877799….

 

Call two. just a day later:

 

Male caller with same exact style of speech:

 

Him:  It app-here’s from our records that your mother qualifies for a free lifeline bracelet.

Me:. Wow. Great. I was just thinking about how she needs helps when I'm not around, and she falls…and can’t get up.

Them: Sir, it app-here’s from our records that your father also qualifies for the lifeline bracelet.

Me: Great. No. Not great. He… passed away. But, I’d be interested in the free thing for my mother.

Him: Sir, we can do that now for the low monthly rate.

Me: You said it was free.

Him: It is only dollars a day, sir.

Me: Dollars a day is not free, ma’am.

Him. I am a sir, sir.

Me: I know, and I am a ma'm... ma’am.

End of call (which was taped for quality assurance purposes, I assure you.)

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I sure do feel that my quality is assured each time I call in... ... ...


:) r.
Fernsy ~ that's an interesting set of observations! In my own case I have to say that I've had good luck dealing with call centers from around the world. In one case I was on the phone for over an hour with a very complicated computer network problem but in the end it was solved. Everyone I have dealt with thus far has been really friendly, too.
Ha. You do the accent well. I had a nice conversation with a Philippino who was fixing my computer by remote connection. He was surprised that I lived so near to where Gen. MacArthur is buried. The newspaper I worked for here hired a Philippine company to handle our tech support. They also were polite but could never understand how to fix our problems, which invariably happened on deadline. So they would connect us with our own IT people a couple of rooms away from us. Management, in its infinite wisdom, finally decided it would be more cost effective to return tech service directly to our own guys.
Very funny piece here Ferns, smiling over my afternoon coffee.
Do you post a lot on Saturdays? That is the day I return home from working away for a few days, take a long bath and read OS, I seem to always read you at these times and it's a very enjoyable thing. Thanks for that sir.
JW: It is a nice feeling.
Designator: I've had good and bad but all in all too robotic. Scaring me. But, they are getting so so polite. Never thought I'd yearn for gruffness ...
Matt: No beef with Philipinos. Believe you me. Just lately at the rite aid and on the phone, and at the at and t store I feel inundated by this roboticness. Often, the robots sound and look like they are from the Philiphines. I blame the corporations, I guess. Thanks for sharing your fine story.
Dear sir;

My favorite part of these calls are the made-up names that are used to keep us from mispronouncing 12 syllable names. Someone needs to let them know that saying " I am Randy" is still funny.
If you are really nice you can often get someone to tell you their real name.Then I tell them them I am going to quit using my real name on the call and want to use their real name because they can say it better. It gets the high pitched giggles going and takes a lot of the frustration out of the call.
Trust me, dealing with garbled English and bad connections is a real improvement. Now, I just scream until I get something free or a coupon!

But they are nice, sweet people. Maybe if they allowed corporal punishment, we could do customer service here in America again!

Brilliant, EP worthy and rated.
Rita: No, thank you, sir! All week I'm too busy( or too guilty that I'm not busy enoug) so my head swims . I'm fighting city hall, after all.
On weekends, the court is closed and I get to try to be creative rather than just a tortured litigant. Plus, I decided that I can't attend to comments during the week so better not post. Probably TMI, but there you go, dear Rita. Thanks again for your sweet comment.
alsoknowas: I'll take your word for it. :) I am randy is a sure bet!
Zuma: LOL on the coupon thing. Slowly I'm learning that the greasy wheel gets the coupon. I never ever get an EP. It's my fate. But, thank you for that. Means a lot when it come from such a bright soul as you.
I know what you're talking about, fernsy. When I had my earthlink account, I would always get a pleasant-sounding, albeit robotic-sounding gentleman on the phone from somewhere in India who was clearly reading from a script. I knew this because he would not respond to my questions, instead he kept answering or asking things totally unrelated to what I was saying. All I can say is "rrrgggh"!
I have zero interest in further stressing out low wage earners ,who appear to have been spiritually sterilized, as it is.

spiritually sterilized is a phrase engraved in my head.
they say your head is kinda random, but
i cannot agree.

i have choice of shit i can recall.

polite is the
only onliest way to go.
only a fool think he/she has
anything to prove anymore. that is for sure.
I have had mixed results, some really nice people just a little hard to understand and some actually quite rude. I thought they were monitored but I guess not all are. It is fun when they send you an email about your recent contact with their customer service.
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This is the kind of thing that sets my blood boiling.
I used to call Ebay a lot when their call centre was in Vancouver. Then it went from Canadian twang to Indian Hindu.
I find it so funny they give their people american names and teach them slang.
Whatever saves a nickle these days.
HUGGGGGGGGGGGG
You are very perceptive and on the mark. I am familiar with the tele-Philipino accent. The callers are always extremely polite although none can pronounce my name right, but I forgive them all, since many here cannot spell it either. :o)
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Just marry someone who knows all about computers. It's worth it, no matter what the cost! I do think most call center employees do their best, but they have no knowledge beyond a script and no authority to help you if your problem goes beyond the script. If you google, usually you can find the email addy of a higher-authority at the company to launch an executive email carpet bomb (EECB). In general, though, I just avoid buying anything, or anything new. I don't want to the hassle!
This is very funny and well-observed, and most likely very true (tho I haven't dealt with anyone but an all-American Mac techie in a while). Great image: "I see an Imelda Marcos lookalike sternly counseling them to eliminate any controversy or nuance from every vowel." I remember when I bought my first Gateway back in '97 I was on the phone with a guy in India for over an hour, and he actually had me up to my wrists in the hard drive innards, fingers bleeding, wondering WTF was I getting myself into with this computer-stuff!
Ok...made me laugh, you goob! Well done!
[r] I had a job outsourced over 6 years ago to India. I was fortunate to find another one, though that ice is getting ever thinner. Then I heard the original outsourced job was redirected from India to the Philippines. I figured the outsourcing rat bastards got a cheaper deal in that country. I have no idea the differences in quality re customer service, but I'll back up the Philippines being involved in American outsourcing. Labor must be really cheap there.

Once on the phone I had a customer service rep spelling out my name and asking, "is that k as in koala?" I asked incredulously "where on earth ARE you?" "Canada" she shot back. Are there koala bears in Canada? I went with it.

Sometimes I would love to get a human voice on the phone when I have an issue or a problem instead of all those bouncing phone numbers ending up in a cul de sac of frustration. Sometimes when I do get a human I get a less than human one, sometimes I get someone absolutely adorable. So it goes. libby
ErikaK; rrggg is always good. It's not just the customer service people. The rite aid and other corporations are now forcing their workers to say " How are you today" in robotic ways.
James: I'm all about the politeness. I don't even comprehend what motivates anyone to be impolite.
RomanticP: Yeah, those e-mails do keep them on thier toes. I guess it's better all this supervision but sometimes I've convinced that robots are everwhere.

Sheila: These were the less blood boiling type. I thought it was funny how he tried to make me think how a few dollars a day was equivalent to free.
Linda: Glad it's universal or no so glad... it's universal. hug to you to dear.
Fusun: Tele- philiphino? Great! Thanks for your fine comment.
Bell: Ha. I do that too. I often just throw it out rather than face that stress.Thanks for the google email tip. Thanks too for the tip on marrying someone who knows computers. I will go on the prowl asap.
Dreidel! Your comment cracked me up. i saw you stuck in the innards... I wonder if you ever figured it out.
J.D: Glad. Thanks.
Libby: Great comment. K as in koala... or kill or... kismet. Ha. Yes, I had to figure out the Philiphines thing after a good 10 times cause my products are all defective nowadays ;( cul de sac of frustration is a very cool way to put it. Isn't so great when they are adorable?
Definitely know what you mean, fernsy; funny, but true! R
I couldn't figure out if I wanted to smile or join in your frustration. So I gave a frustrated smile. :)
Living in France means I deal with French-speaking customer service people, who are usually native French or from a French-speaking country, so no big accent issues, though I have heard that there are French-language companies that have customer service lines in non-native French-speaking countries as well. Whatever the case, it means that most of the time, the roles are reversed: I'M the one with the accent! Though most of the time it goes pretty well, the main problem being the expected surliness of the French person on the line. I didn't know about this new wave of English-language customer service people...intriguing.....
Toth: Thanks for coming by, fella.. It struck me as funny but sometimes I feel like people are getting more robotlike . I don't like it.
Fay: Either response is fine. Good to see you.
Alysa: This is one of those " Is this universal or what???? posts" Sometimes it is ,and sometimes ... it's not. Yes, as far as I can tell there really is an actual new wave of customer service people.
fernsy, I have come to believe the word "service" is used in the less common meaning: to attend to sexually. That's why we always feel we've been f***ed after the call is over!

Lezlie
Thanks for sharing and maybe one day all of this will end....Come on Obama....pass something to help us here.
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