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Lorraine Berry lives in the Fingerlakes region of New York, although it's her transplanted home. On weekends, she can be heard throughout the area, cheering on her beloved Manchester City F.C. When not writing at Does This Make Sense? or Talking Writing, she can be found hiking with her two dogs, hanging out with her two daughters, eating what her beloved Rob has cooked for her, or teaching creative writing at a small college in the area.

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JUNE 15, 2009 7:24AM

Why I Almost Left OS

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It was never about flouncing.

I don't have much to complain about. Oh sure; sometimes I write something that I think deserves more attention than it gets, but then again, don't we all? 

And it wasn't really about incivility. I dislike incivility, but I usually deal with that by staying away from the blog posts of folks who are likely to be uncivil, or who have come onto my blog and shit in my living room. I'm not talking about folks who disagree with me--I love open debate, friendly discussions, the "I like you but must disagree with you on this." 

But call me a name, refer to me as a body part, make some kind of ad feminem attack, and I'm likely to avoid you. 

So, what, then was the problem? 

Fear.

I had become fearful of being here. Perhaps more importantly, the people I love had become fearful of my being here. And people I love for whom I felt fear if I continued to blog.

Let me explain. 

We all know that some nasty accusations have been hurled back and forth. Sometimes, those accusations have degenerated to the level of people threatening to hurt one another, kill one another. 

Again, I could ignore that. And then, out of the blue, someone mentioned the town where I live. It was out of context, and perhaps I was being paranoid, but I saw it as a veiled threat. 

Suddenly, I regretted that I have been fairly open about who I am, where I live. It wouldn't take much to figure out how to find me. 

I spent a week measuring my desire to blog, my desire to both write about the beauty of the world and the outrages perpetrated by humans against one another--I spent a week measuring whether my desire to blog was placing me in danger. 

A friend of mine, an editor, has been getting explicit death threats. Hearing her read what people had told her they were going to do to her chilled me. 

I thought perhaps I should go underground. I contemplated quitting blogging altogether. I contemplated quitting blogging under my current name and reappearing in an anonymous guise. 

Then, Joan went on Bill O'Reilly last week. I read the comments on Salon. They curdled my blood. They were frightening in their anger, their desires to wipe Joan--and people who think like Joan--off the earth. 

I thought about domestic terrorism. I thought about how domestic terrorism is going to be something we are contending with for a while. They are not going to go away. The question became for me whether I was going to allow myself to be cowed into silence. 

The decision to continue blogging is not brave. It is selfish. It is because I believe myself to be a person who would continue to speak out against the evil she sees around her. But I worry that people I love may be affected by my decision. 

The decision to continue blogging, and to post this, is also selfish. I'm not an egomaniac--I don't believe myself to be more important than I am--so it's not as if something I'm going to write is going to change anything. I also do not believe that I will be singled out for persecution. 

I'm over my fear. I'm over myself. 

I can no more stop writing than I can stop breathing. 

I guess you're stuck with me. 

But as a sidenote, I do worry about internet safety. I would like to see Joan and Kerry address this. I don't want to see anyone's free speech quashed, but at what point does someone cross the line and start yelling "fire" in a crowded movie theatre? Does threatening to hunt down members of OS count? 

 

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I am glad you are staying. You have a unique and powerful voice Lorraine. (not to mention more energy than most) It's good you are staying and fighting.
Yay! Glad you stayed!
It is so hard not to live in fear- thank you for rising above it, I am not sure I could have done the same. I would have missed your wisdom. And I am interested to see if Joan or Kerry respond to your questions, I think they are important to address.
Rated with a big thumbs up for saying what so many of us are thinking. And for your audacious attitude. Good on you!
That was written with a heart.
Stay. Yes! My heart was pumping.
If I told my threat story? buy mints.
But a pack of spear ' mint Life Savers.
Thanks for this post. Care is courage.
No ever QUIT. Wear shirt? Shirt`off!
Yes! If you have a itch you can't reach?
Ask a dear Friend. Friends will scratch.
If you can't find a jelly bean? I'll share.
I'll lend a red, green, blue, assortment.
You can eats a balanced jelly bean diet.
Beyond the horizon? No jello for creep.
'um sleaze. 'um crawl on belly butt fours.
disgraced foes of Truth. scabs, lice, fouls.
For some odd reason, I feel like a beer bath.
champaign? a lawn water sprinkle with Ya'all.
Lorraine-I am SO glad you decided to stay. Whether you know it or not, you are like a mentor to me. Your voice is so important, so powerful, so gentle , so fierce, so caring, so vehement, so volatile, so kind, and so necessary! You have the balls, I have yet to grow. Thank you. Your safety is paramount, of course. Once any kind of threat is made, TPTB need to take action and remove the individual who argues with threats! Plain and simple.
Rated
I agree. We live in the domestic terrorism age FLW and we need more safety devices on here and it's not censorship when you're dealing with a maniac. It's called preventive measures. I too am glad you did not leave. I've contemplated a couple of times but fear will never drive me away.
We all must speak out against hatred and bring it into the light. Even if only one person thinks more about your impassioned and caring writing, your decision is a good one. Write on, and on.
h-j, what energy? I'm sitting her in my jammies, trying to figure out if I can get my ass up off the couch. :)
cymraeg: bloody well right.
mamoore: wisdom? wow. Thanks.
COS: audacious? Now that's a word I love.
Arthur: you are this site's conscience. Thank you.
junk1: I'm humbled.
KOB: I'm glad you stayed. We need you here.
Lea: I'll write on if you write on, okay?
Thank you all.
Oh Aaron. You just brought tears to my eyes.
I'm glad you've found the strength to stay, Lorraine. But I'd also ask as a friend that you keep your eyes and ears open. The world has definitely more than its share of nuts.
I read Joan's piece on Salon but I didn't read the comments. I figured there would be some damn upsetting ones in there and I'm not gonna give those asshats the courtesy of reading their virulent crap. If indeed there is justice in the world Bill O'Reilly will suddenly come down with a horrific case of laryngitis that will last for a very long time.
Ay, junk1. pardon me? we bumped. you burped @ 8:11.
I was very touched! Ay, what a wonderful exhilaration.
Ay, junk1? you are no Kilgore. I write your cell phone #?
I'll record your e- mail, cell number, and address? bath?
I'll use red crayons and write graffiti to the zoo giraffes.

Graafian follicles. You can do physiology research @ OS?
fire fire pants on fire! hose you down! hank pants in wire!
I jest saying:`If Ya pants catch fire, I find a telephone line!

Ay, I know a nice bathhouse. Folk bump. call dear junk1!
No? no clammy hands, bad breath, or the cranky creeps!
So, if Ya receive many love notes it's because Ya mensch!
If I may borrow a line from a bad 80's song, I'm "happy to be stuck with you". You may say your decision to stay is selfish, but I disagree. Your writing is an act of generosity from which we all benefit, and your decision not to let the haters silence you is courageous indeed.
Funny thing about hunting a blogger down, a person might find that it wasn't the right choice or maybe even the last choice they have ever, (or will ever) make. Some of us are a lot scarier in real life. If you ever get some nitwit trying to track you down tell them to come find me. I've got a surprise for them.

Glad you didn't go.
I'm glad you're staying too. I like a lot of your posts.
You are right it can be scary. I have more fear for my daughters, not that they are not careful and knowledgeable, it is more because of who I am and was. Parts of the Government are not really nice places to work. They have come to understand the need to be careful in all they do, as well as everyone should be in these times. I am glad you stayed because I enjoy reading your work and thoughts. I wish that the world didn't have to be this way, but it is. I have seen more violence and hatred than most could not even begin to believe, I also have seen so much good not understood nor noted. Be diligent and smart, again thank you for being who you are and always be careful. Older/Exasperated
I'm glad you are brave enough to stay and will continue to write. I'm also glad that you are aware enough to realize we live in very dangerous times and in spite of that sad fact, maintain the strength and courage to make your voice heard.
I'm not sure how much Joan and Kerry can do. The problem is of a scale they mostly cannot handle at the human level; that is, it's all they can do to write and edit. This needs to be a money-making operation or it won't be here. The one thing they can maybe do is approve the use of technical resources to add various kinds of programmatic features that might help, but one would have to enumerate what some of those are. (I made some notes and will post ideas separately.)

I think it's brave to stay, but don't feel committed by that decision. Change your mind if you feel the need. And an intermediate is simply to delete individual posts behind you. It's sad to delete things but sometimes necessary. Do what you need to do.

And, Aaron, it's naive to think that everyone who might do harm can be traced. It only takes reading an idea to get excited. One doesn't have to make an overt threat to carry through on a vendetta. Your statement “We would all know how to backtrack to a perp from OS if anything happened to you” is romantic but plainly just not true. If you want, I can explain that in precise terms elsewhere, no need here. But it's better not to have a romanticized notion about what's possible and what's not forensically when talking about web site views.
I have never had threats, but I have fear. We leave trails of ourselves all over the internet and when I really stop and think about it, it scares the shit out of me of how I expose myself.

But the blogs keep tumbling forth from me and thank Goddess from you too. I am glad you will continue writing. The strong voices , such as yours, must continue. It is our freedom, these voices.
I stepped away from the computer to pay some bills, and when I came back, found all these new messages.
Thank you all for your kind words. And thank you for the continued assurance that there are people here who would cover my back if so needed. It makes me feel good to know how we look out for one another here.
It's sweet that people like my voice, and my strength. It's funny, because that's not how I see myself. I don't see myself as some kind of brave warrior. I'm a mouse, really, but I squeak a lot.
So, thank you, thank you, thank you.
I'm moved beyond measure by your words of support.
Blue, I agree, and if somebody "tracks" me down", they better come loaded for bear, I'm just an old southern boy. You come in my yard, well, I'll just say.., "A COUNTRY BOY CAN SURVIVE" as ole' Hank might say.(oh, ditto=junk1)
Q
I don't comment much on your stuff. I know not the hissy fits to which you refer. I am clearly far further to the right than you politically albeit still not a right wing nut. But I do enjoy reading your stuff, so I am glad you are sticking around.

One of my pet peeves, happens to be the way the term censorship gets used. Censorship is a government action. OpenSalon taking something down would not be Censorship. That's a private enterprise deciding they do not want to be associated with someone or something. If you have a load drunk in your bar or restaurant yelling Nigger, Cunt or some other nasty gram at the top of their lungs, it is not censorship to grab them by the elbows and throw them out of the front doors onto the street.

It's called good taste.

Anyway ... I think I smell a blog post germinating on this one ....

Glad you are still here, in spite of rarely, if ever, agreeing with you. :)
Oh, and again, FLW, these are some good people on OS, and I just don't argue with these assholes anymore. Ain't gonna' do it. I've told one or two in P.M.., Man, theres million of sites, to argue on, and this isn't one of them. Please leave!!
Sister, sister - so glad you're staying, though I can see why you would have concerns. Who wouldn't? In my opinion, you're asking the right questions - the ones we must all ask ourselves as we move forward. Blessings, FLW.
I missed the post in which those making comments were threatening violence and #1 I am glad for that and #2 WTF? Freedom of speech etc. etc. . . . why would anyone get that mad over someone's opinion? I don't worry so much about safety but I'm applying for jobs now and know that others will find this and . . . it has made my recent posts more circumspect and general. I'm glad you are staying. Last week I was trying to recruit a friend to OS and recommended he read your posts and those of Gary Justis to learn the quality of writing and discourse available here. Hope he did not see whatever posts you refer to here about violent threats.
I suspect the risk is minimal from someone making an online threat in this forum, without any other evidence of personal connection or stalking. It would be pretty easy to find a lot of us, but the dynamic that causes someone to be anonymously hostile is different from what drives a person to take planful action to harm, IMO. I'm not a psychologist, but I play one on TV. I'm glad you're not going away.
Wow, fingerlakes, you sure hit the nail.

I think Arthur James best put it with:

"You can eats a balanced jelly bean diet."

You CAN eats a balanced jelly bean diet. It's tough to do on OS sometimes. It requires interacting then backing off and gathering yourself, your "homeland security" again. Retreating, removing.

I also hope we create enough of a tight circle with the good OS people that we serve as a form of protection.

There was a guy who wrote a story a few weeks ago about a church he was visiting where he saw a father being inappropriate with his daughter. He tells it in such detail that I kept feeling the need to return and flag him.

He - TO ME - wreaked of a perp trying to talk about incest in a sexualized way that seemed "acceptable." (Notice everyone, I said TO ME because I don't want to hear a bunch of rebuttals. I felt what I felt.)

My point is: we have to be the police at times, I suppose. I didn't flag him ultimately but enough people called him on his weird approach to the topic that there was some gratification.

It would be a real shame to lose you, that's for sure.

(SUNG) "Oh won't you stay...just a little bit longer. Please, please, please, say you will. SAY you will!"
Ahhh I'm so glad you are staying FLW...do be vigilant, however. I"d miss your voice v ery much were it not here.
I am so glad that you are staying - I echo those who write that they see your decision as not an act of selfishness, but of generosity. To me, you embody the very best of OS, Lorraine, in both intellect and soul. While I would have supported whatever choice you made, I thank you for staying. Our community would be much poorer without your voice, without your kindness, without your spirit.
Everything that Shivaun said...

And this bears repeating...

But as a sidenote, I do worry about internet safety. I would like to see Joan and Kerry address this. I don't want to see anyone's free speech quashed, but at what point does someone cross the line and start yelling "fire" in a crowded movie theatre? Does threatening to hunt down members of OS count?

Perhaps neither of them can do anything personally given their time constraints, but surely there is room for some kind of an ombudsman? One with a delete key and the ability to block an IP address when called for, i.e., when someone posts comments (or blog posts) that are way beyond the pale. They know when this may have happened, because of the "flag" option.

We could survive without your voice here, Lorraine, but only by having to "make-do." It would not be at all the same. A real spark of humanity would be missing.
ohhhh the drama!
When somebody writes "I rarely agree with you, but I'm glad you are here" that stikes me as a sign of hope.

It is strange how little and how much we all know of each other. It would never have occured to me that you'd be scared of anything!
Beyond being one of the most popular writers here---you're also really GOOD at it. That means I pay attention to what you write, tend not to comment when the voume of comments gets into the large numbers---but always rate. And am thrilled when you pay attention to something I do. In other words---you're a leader here. So I'm glad you didn't go.

I do have to agree with Kent that there ain't a lot Joan and Kerry can do beyond write, edit, respond and inspire as they run their business.

The real protection, the real battle against fear comes from all of us speaking out. And then listening hard. Learning. Exactly like you are doing here.

Like I said. You're a leader.
hmm. i don't know of the 'nasty accusations' hurled. maybe i'm too much out of the loop. people have said 'i'm brave' to blog under my own name. it seems ridiculous not to. i'm a newspaper editor, a blogger there, a sometimes reporter ... everyone knows where to find me. but perhaps since i'm not controversial, no one needs to come looking. keep writing under your name and refuse to be silenced. there really isn't another option, is there?
Chalk one up for the good guys, finger. Glad you're still here.
I'm so sorry that this happened to you, Lorraine. I don't know of the specific incident(s?) you mention because my time has been limited on OS lately, but I would never want to see you or anyone driven away by fear. Your light would certainly be missed around here. I'm glad to hear that you're staying. Just as we can't allow domestic terrorists take away our quality of life, we can't allow mean spirited trolls to take away our words.
I'm glad you're still here!

I'm sure you know that 99.9% of threats people make on the internet will never go further than words on a screen. but I agree that they don't belong here, and I really thought the TOS forbade that kind of thing, as well as a few levels below threat. If you see specific things on your own blog or others that you feel are a violation, I'd report them to Kerry or Thomas.
Thank you again. This is getting embarrassing. I didn't post so you could all tell me how brave I was. Honest. I blogged because I was concerned that people threaten others here, and I worry sometimes that something awful will happen as a result.

I just want everyone here to be safe.
Internetting requires very thick skin and the willingness to believe that 99.7% of assholes who spew crap online like "I'm gonna find you and rip your head off and fuck your dead neck" are, behind all the bluster, pathetic loserboyz who live in a nasty hovel, haven't showered in days, and get off on imitating Big Bad Men. In reality they're afraid of their own shadows, deeply insecure, haven't had sex with a real live woman in years, and wouldn't know what to do if they met a strong woman in person.
What VR said. I've seen this stuff going on since I got on the 'net in the mid-90's. It will always be with us online. The best thing is to ignore it and not feed it. But again, if there are any behavior standards in the TOS, then management should enforce them, but they need our help in finding the problem, as they can't read every post or every comment (and it often seems the worst stuff is in Comments).
VR--
I think what freaked me out was not the threat, it was the mention of where I live.
That's where the "drama" for me came from. (Thanks, Trig for putting it all in perspective. :)
I wonder what would happen if we all blogged under our own names. Being anonymous protects not only those who blog, but also those who threaten.
I would hate it if you left, too, but I completely understand your fear. There are indeed far too many crazy people in the world.
If having you around is to be described as being stuck, sign me up for much more "stuckness." ;)

Your concerns about safety and exposure are very timely reminders, FLW. It's good for us all to keep in mind how vulnerable we are making ourselves here, and elsewhere on the Internet.
I'm glad you're staying. I've been absent from OS off and on for awhile, so I haven't been privvy to waht's been going on. Thanks for writing this. If someone is getting death threats, Joan and Kerry should be doing something about it. No onw should live in fear.
I'm glad you stayed. xox
I wonder what would happen if we all blogged under our own names. Being anonymous protects not only those who blog, but also those who threaten.

The real problem is that there is no way in hell that one can be "forced" to access the internet under their own name. I mean, how do you really know my name is Bill? Because I told you (well, and I do have some people here who actually have met me, who will vouch for me if need be). Beyond that, my name could really be Laurie and I might be a thirteen-year-old.
The real solution would be in the enforced use of digital credentials, which comes with its own set of issues. Technology advances so quickly and like everything else, the potential for misuse is only addressed after the fact.
One thing I wanted to mention: I wrote to a few members of OS about this particular issue. I got great advice from them, and I'm grateful for that. They helped me put things in perspective, I think.
And you have all done your share to further lay this issue to rest for me, in terms of my personal safety. Just stay safe yourselves, okay?
I really do love this community.
Like others, I am glad you stayed. I do not know the detail of whats been happening with you, but what you have said here is enough for most of us to say this is a worrying trend.

No doubt completely unconnected, it is already known that I have had my own share of concerns about what has been written on OS in the PM box, which is the reason for the "Disclaimer" being placed amongst the links on my blog. For me, it would not be too difficult to locate where I am, I use my own name, refer to where I live, and am well known in the community. Having said that, it is a truth that we should be careful in what is revealed on the net, but that is no reason why "respectable" members of OS should abuse the trust that has been given.

In my own situation, the ones who were abusing my PM box are publicly well respected by others on OS. Therefore, it may be a good deterrent for those types to make it known that their names, along with their comments WILL be revealed. Is that something we all can do as part of the "policing" of OS?

In addition, I would hope that our "leaders" on OS could consider what may be done on an official bases.
Glad you stayed and hope all works out for you..
I didn't know that this was going on with you. We must have been experiencing parallel universes in our families in these last two weeks, because my husband was very concerned about comments I'd made to some people for their bigoted/hate comments. We've been talking about me blogging under an alias for some months now. I have concluded that anonymous contributors are more likely to spew their vitriol simply because of their anonymity. Just picture the KKK. So, I won't retreat under an alias and I will not be silenced.

I've also got your back. I think we all have to stick together. Fragmentation would mean that we'd have to leave, I think and I'm not willing to do that.

So, I'm thrilled you will stay.

denese
I'm so glad you're staying. You are a valuable member of this community and there would be a gaping hole here if you left. Sending safe, positive thoughts your way.
I think Verbal hit it spot on...but that doesn't make it any easier when you read it and your fear level goes up. Glad you stayed.
Alas, we're never really anonymous online, and there are a certain amount of twits out there who can't simply disagree, but instead have to take it to the next level.

Years ago, when TableTalk was free I posted on there quite a bit, but I did so anonymously and my email address was not public (although I foolishly used my company email when I set up my TableTalk account - i.e. myname@company.com).

Well, someone apparently took issue with political comments I made and contacted the company I work for and said a bunch of off-color, disparaging things about me. The guy here who read the email just alerted me to the fact that I must have hacked someone off online, so nothing came of it on this end.

Since my email wasn't available to other TableTalk posters it was clear that the person either worked for Salon or had access to my account information somehow, which was kind of chilling. I brought this up in an email with Salon, but they pretty much blew me off and it struck me as odd that they didn't seem to care that someone had accessed a user's private information in order to harass them.

But anyway, lesson learned - you're never anonymous and there are a few creeps out there.
I'm really pleased by the seriousness of the comments here. I think we're all thinking out loud about safety issues and blogging, and what to do with the war of words that seems to get worse every day. I guess it was naive to think it would stay off OS.

Thank you, again, to all who have posted and let me know you have my back. It means a lot to me.

I just went out for a long walk, and when I came back, I found a ton more comments. I'm sorry I'm not responding individually, but please know I'm reading each comment carefully, and you're all warming the cockles of my heart.
I guess I look at it like shopping at Lane Bryant, riding the Greyhound Bus, going to school or using Craigslist and on and on. People have gotten killed doing these things, but what can you do?
First, Lorraine you are an inspiration to me. Keep on fighting the power...I believe firmly that only by standing up to bullies can you defeat them. I've never understood the philosophy that letting them wreak unchallenged havoc somehow diminishes them. Crazies are a slightly different story, but in the end, you have more important things to offer the world than all the crazies and bullies put together.

Second, re trig's "ohhh the drama" comment: WTF? Unless I am missing some inside joke, it seems inappropriate.
Just one voice . . . rated.
I have to admit that I didn't worry all that much about safety issues for women until I had two daughters. When it hit me that MY DAUGHTERS would have to worry about internet safety, school safety, walking, relatives, boyfriends, and parties, I started thinking about the safety issues for all women in a more heartfelt way. I've also found out through my own blog about what a problem internet stalking can be. There's a guy who devotes a whole blog to ripping at me at every possible occasion and he's gotten some attention from the national outlets on which my posts have appeared. Anyway, it was very painful to see that you felt exposed because someone mentioned your home town and would have hated to lose your contribution here.
Emma--right back at you. You inspire me constantly.
And Ric, thanks for touching the third rail. I haven't mentioned gender in all of this, but yeah, it's a factor.
Your decision to stay is good in that your views on what you write of teach and enlighten the OS community. Your concerns are well founded; but to silence you would be a crime.
You're a nice person to be stuck with.
rated for bravery, and you are as addicted as the rest of us so you'd miss OS too much anyway. Going forward, just sort of like latching the screen door for the idea of safety, you could take down Line #2 off your lovely banner-just a bit more anonymous. (Oh, how I envy a real banner, but it wouldn't detract, just a thought.)
I'm glad you didn't leave.
Good decision Lorraine. OS wouldn't be the same without you and the internet concerns are not imagined.
Hello, I am glad you didn't feel bullied and leave. I am writing a blog whose EP freaked a lot of people out and I thought about quitting too. I don't expect people to agree with my POV but I thought my POV was unique in the usual "chick lit" books glorifying materialism and prostitution towards U.S. women in their 20's so I thought I'd get more questions than attacks. I read others blogs and saw that snarky comments seems to be how people comment on OS so I realized it wasn't personal and responded with equal snark. I also realized when my story gets a book deal that the attacks will be more in my face and so if I can't handle it on OS, then how am I going to handle it being a published author? If a writer puts her work out there to be judged then the risk is people aren't going to like what you say and maybe not even like you. No one should ever threaten you or physically hurt you for mere words but I think the verbal abuse just comes with the territory and you can't let it get to you. I wish you all the best with your writing.
Buy a gun, everyone else is.
I toy with closing up shop here frequently and for a myriad of reasons... none of which include fear of physical intimidation. It would be very difficult to actually leave though. It would also not be quite the same if you weren't here. I find that the idea of you feeling threatened is abhorrent.
Congratulations! They would have won if you had let fear overwhelm you and make you hide or leave.

OS has the power to kick people out when they make specific threats against another person. I can't believe that this place is that weakly managed. Otherwise, it's no better than alt.usenet.

Now get out there and scare the hell out of them.
Threatening someone online breaks bigger rules than the ones at OS; it's a Federal crime. If you ever think the threats are serious, contact the FBI. They do get back to you.

Glad you're staying.
Oh - and one more point to make - people worry about internet safety because the internet is new and unfamiliar. You are far, far more likely to be hurt by someone who lives with you than by someone who lives on your street, far more likely to be hurt by someone who lives on your street than someone who lives far away. Least likely of all to be hurt by a stranger on the internet.
On a strange note regarding anonymity...

My login name here is fins2theleft. My "real" name is Rob Anderson, but I don't have that listed even in my profile. In my profile I have "R" listed as the first name and Anderson as the last name.

But if I got to a search engine and type in fins2theleft, what comes up is my Open Salon blog, but the URL looks like this:

open.salon.com/blog/rob_anderson_1

WTF?

I could sort of understand if it included my first initial in the URL, but how did my first name get in there since I don't even have it in my profile?

My guess is that maybe when I first opened my account on Open Salon that I had my actual first name in my profile and that I had the little radio button clicked to display my real name and so Open Salon just created my blog using my real name in the folder structure. And then, when I checked the other radio button to have my login name displayed they continued using my real name in the folder structure.

If so, then that's probably an oversight on their part that needs to be remedied so that when you click on the button to use your login name, your URL also changes.

Additionally, if you change your name in your profile, then it seems that they shouldn't be keeping your old name as part of your blog URL.

I sent a question to the help desk so I'll see what they say.

But it shows that you're never quite as anonymous as you think!
Thanks for staying, Lorraine. We need your calm and thoughtful voice on OS.
I wish I had seen this sooner. I am glad you are staying. Bullies should never ever have their way.