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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. - Mohandas K. Gandhi (Thanks, Y.O. for the suggestion) --------------------------------------------------------- It is organized violence on top which creates individual violence at the bottom. It is the accumulated indignation against organized wrong, organized crime, organized injustice which drives the political offender to his act. To condemn him means to be blind to the causes which make him. I can no more do it, nor have I the right to, than the physician who were to condemn the patient for his disease. You and I and all of us who remain indifferent to the crimes of poverty, of war, of human degradation, are equally responsible for the act committed by the political offender. May I therefore be permitted to say, in the words of a great teacher: “He who is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone.” Does that mean advocating violence? You might as well accuse Jesus of advocating prostitution, because He took the part of the prostitute, Mary Magdalene." Emma Goldman, Address to the Jury, July 9, 1917. (she was convicted and spent two years in jail before being deported. Her crime? Speaking out against conscription during WWI.)

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JUNE 25, 2009 3:08PM

Ann Coulter and Clarence Thomas: WTF???

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 Disclaimer: I'm writing this with a headache, so I apologize if it's a bit "off" in its analysis.

 

A few months ago, I wrote about the case of the 13-year old who had been strip-searched by school officials looking for two ibuprofen.

Today, SCOTUS ruled that the school district had been wrong, and that the young woman's rights had been violated. They voted 8-1 on that decision. The dissenting vote? Clarence Thomas. Apparently, Justice Thomas has no problem with someone rifling through a 13-year old girl's panties. 

According to Justice Thomasthe strip search of Savana Redding did not violate the Fourth Amendment. He asserted that the majority’s finding second-guesses the measures that educators take to maintain discipline “and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge.”

If you remember the details of the case (which are in the link above), Savana was strip-searched because a classmate, who had a beef with her, reported to school officials that Savana was carrying ibuprofen on her. Savana denied it. She was strip-searched. Over ibuprofen. Which many, many young women use for the relief of menstrual cramps. 

The decision, available at the NYTimes web site, is in PDF format, and thus cannot be copied here. But, Thomas is essentially arguing that school officials have the right to prevent the distribution of drugs on campus; what is ridiculous is the slippery slope argument Thomas resorts to. Somehow, in his view, ibuprofen (which he insists was a "prescription-strength" dosage) is, in effect, a gateway drug. Allow students to bring ibuprofen for menstrual cramps, and the next thing you know, they're bringing other stuff. He actually refers to "medically induced highs." On ibuprofen? Are you kidding me?

I am happy that SCOTUS has agreed that strip-searching 13-year olds at school, without calling their parents, without allowing the child access to counsel, through what was, in effect, a case of institutional bullying, was unacceptable. But Thomas, once appointed head of the EEOC, refuses to see the common sense approach of the other justices. For him, ibuprofen today, Viagra tomorrow.

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Ann Coulter has proven once again that she has no business speaking on television. She incites violence. She celebrates death and destruction. In this case, she is dancing on Dr. George Tiller's grave.

I wrote about the terrorist assassination of George Tiller when it happened. On June 22, when appearing on Bill O'Reilly's show, this is what that poor excuse for a human being had to say. "I don’t really like to think of it as a murder. It was terminating Tiller in the 203rd trimester." 

 

 

 If you're like me, her words are so sickening, I immediately went to NARAL and made a donation which you can do here. In exchange for your donation, you'll receive wrist bands that say simply, "TRUST WOMEN."

Trust women. What a simple concept.

Trust a 13-year old who tells you that she didn't bring any ibuprofen to school with her.

Trust a woman who needs to terminate her pregnancy.

But don't trust Ann Coulter. At this point, I believe she will say anything to attract attention. I believe in the First Amendment, but I also believe that inciting terrorism is akin to shouting fire in a crowded theatre, and is not protected speech.

I do not know why she has not been arrested.

I don't know why she wasn't arrested when she advocating killing Justice Stevens. 

Apparently, if you're a white female, you can say whatever the fuck you want on television and no one will call you on your bullshit. Why hasn't the FCC fined her? Jesus. We accidentally see a black woman's breast and the FCC goes ballistic, but a white woman advocates terror, and nothing happens.

So, today, I'm thinking, once again, about the bullshit that passes for discourse in our culture.

But I'm happy that Savana has been vindicated.

 

 

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Let's all hope Thomas retires soon.
too funny (in a sad way) "For him, ibuprofen today, Viagra tomorrow. "...except don't you think Thomas might have had a different take if it was a teen age boy trying out Viagra...I think he might have voted the other way. just a hunch.

i love your analysis as usual but I think there's a word missing in this sentence? "I don't know why she wasn't arrested when she to kill a Supreme Court Justice.."

also which justice are you referring to? I must have missed that. and I positively agree with you that the Janet Jackson hubub had a lot to do with her race. I haven't seen similar obsenity charges lobbed at Britney or Madonna who have definitely revealed nipples in public forums over the years...oy.
Thomas is an idiot. he was also the dissenting vote in upholding voting rights yesterday. He is bending over so far backward I am afraid he might fall down soon. Wish he would. Down and out of SCOTUS. Oy.
flw, this was cogent and concise. And I agree with you 100%.

P.S. The only mistake I see is that you must have left out a word o this sentence: "I don't know why she wasn't arrested when she to kill a Supreme Court Justice."
Thomas won't retire any time soon if at all. Neither will Ann Coulter. We are so much the poorer for that.
Anita Hill was right!!!

Ann Coulter is not a woman.... she is actually a Neanderthal Lady Boy from Thailand.... pay no attention to her.
thank you for pointing out the sentence that didn't make sense. I've fixed it. So much making me angry this afternoon about the fact that we don't trust women--whether they be 13-year olds who swear they don't have ibuprofen on them, or women who, along with their doctors, have come to the brutal decision that they must terminate a late pregnancy.
These two are among the most frightening people who command public attention. Sometimes these people get the limelight, and even great influence for many years, but like in this post, we must constantly call them out. That is our only antidote to their terrible ways.
Standing, applauding, hooting. I really really really hate to say this, but I really really really Hate Ann Coulter. I tell my girls all the time - "Hate is a strong word. Use 'intensely dislike' or something." I practically forbid them saying they hate each other (saying they hate me, however, is something I must accept!). But AC - I Really hate her, I think more than I intensely dislike O'Reilly or actively loathe Limbaugh.

Really.
Clarence Thomas is scary bad. Anita Hill wasn't lying.

Just the mention of the name (I can barely type it) Ann Coulter is enough to induce my gag reflex. It says a lot about America that this unspeakable #$#! is even given a public audience, it says a lot, and none of it is good.
Ann Coulter, Clarence Thomas, and the advertisement below the comment section. Name my least three favorite things?
No chance that Thomas will retire anytime soon. The decision was a mixed bag. They sent the ability to sue for civil damages back down to the lower courts.

I was surprised at the 8-1 actually given the comments during the hearing, especially from Breyer, Thomas, and the other wind bag.

It is a good win for this, but a mixed blessing I think.

Coulter is just a moron. Don't let her get to you. She belongs to the Palin/Hasselbeck girl club. They meet every 4 minutes on twitter and plan this crap. Kidding. But seriously, the world is full of media these days, and many are just not that bright: Coulter being right there at the top.
Thank God for wisdom like Clarence Thomas's on the court. If we let these little dope fiends carry around ibuprofen how long before they move on to the hard stuff, like acetominophen or even that product from the people who invented heroin, Bayer aspirin?
See? This is the funny thing about the ads. The ad in the corner here is an ad that allows you to buy a copy of Annie's new book. So here I am complaining about her, but because the thingie sees her name, it thinks it's a good thing. Weird. But I've become used to this kind of thing.
Let's see if we can raise some money for NARAL today. Ann Coulter may become NARAL's best advertising shill today: if you're horrified by what she said, you're simply not paying attention.
Followed your lead and went to NARAL. Gods, I hate that bitch...
okay, that's it. no longer will i fantasize about ann coulter.

sorry for the totally inappropriate comment but it seemed more interesting than "you're right", which, of course, you are.
I made a donation to NARAL right before I logged on to see your post. Brava, Lorainne. And I am with Connie_Mack on this one, and I also rarely use the word "hate" but I despise the woman. I would give this a triple rating if I could. I am definitely clicking on all of your ads.
Should we all start giving out Thomas' home address and phone number to lefty loonies -- if we can find any lefty loonies that is?
Well deserved EP...If Ann Coulter had been Clarence Thomas' accuser we would be rid of both of them now.............


Rated
to think that George Herbert Walker Bush said that Thomas was the best and the brightest in the country--the "best qualified [nominee] at this time." I wonder what that says about the Bush family pea-brainedness if he actually believed that...or his mendacity if he did not?
wanderer

You have to give Clarence Thomas kudos for being consistent, he didn't think it was wrong to harass Anita hill, either.

Sean Hannity's older brother, Ann Coulter, on the other hand is simply a probe placed in the ass of humanity by visiting aliens.
I still remember Anita Hill and the Clarence Thomas affair...never liked him since. And Ann Coulter, an extremely venal and mean-spirited poor excuse for a human being. Thanks for reminding us.
It must have escaped my attention that ibuprofen was a substance that was banned from transport across school borders.....
yes, let's sic the lefty loonies on them! and there are lefty loonies... they just aren't the shooting type. they're more the join hands and try to levitate the pentagon loony.

ooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmm...

and for those of us who aren't morally opposed to capital or credit, donating to naral is a beautiful response.
Glad you got to this today. I was delighted to hear about the 8-1 decision this morning. Unbelievable story from the beginning. Makes my blood curl to think about that girl alone in the room - without being able to contact her parents.
Coulter: "Only five abortion doctors have been killed over the last 35 years!" Not enough for you, huh Ann?

What I find particularly ironic is Ann and Bill's chit chat about how "afraid" the righties are of the pro-choicers; this is their explanation, voiced regretfully but with understanding, of why conservatives aren't out there giving graphic details of what Tiller did for a living. This, after a pro-lifer gunned down a pro-choicer?

For the record, the whole abortion debate makes me queasy. I'm not as dogmatic as some about choosing to abort up until birth. I'm not remotely in favor of criminalization, so that makes me pro-choice all the way, but I am neither blithe nor certain about the issue. Of one thing I am certain: I don't want to stand with Ann Coulter on anything.
PS to FLW: This post wasn't a bit off. It's Thomas who's off--on every issue :)
Great post, and I hope you are feeling better.

Thomas has said triumphantly that he plans to live to 100 and stay on the SC til he breathes his last just to get back at all his haters. I don't hear anything about anyone proposing to abort him in his 203rd trimester, though. See, we liberals play by different rules--the "Christian" ones, actually.
Coulter's a creep. But the thing that bugs me about that ruling is that the Supremes also ruled that the family cannot recover damages from the individual administrators. Many may disagree with me, but I think their individual liability should not be protected. But the decision was right, otherwise, on the merits.
I love the irony in the ad at the bottom I just saw...an ad for Ann Coulter, where you can sign up for free updates from her. sheesh. I got a screen capture of it in case you want to see it Lorraine, and it disappears before you see it.
As soon as I'm done with this comment, I'm also going to NARAL. I may be flat broke but I will sell everything I own before I allow these bigots to control the reproductive freedom of millions of women.

Thank you for this. It needs to be said.
Gawd, lady! ...LOVE it when you talk dirty!

Well, everything is context-relative, huh? And here I mean simply, FingerLakes, that there is a place and a manner for displays of righteous indignation, and you choose both, it seems to me, with exquisite propriety. Truth to power... speak it, ma'am!

[Now, as to you talking dirty in any other context? I haven't seen, I haven't heard, and will not fantasize, albeit righteously tempting.]
There's freedom of speech and there's irresponsible speech. One is contingent upon the other. You have to possess two very simple things in order to be able to discern when freedom of speech topples over into irresponsible speech: common sense and tact. I'm sure Coulter possesses the first, but I'm not so sure about the second. She also possesses a massive ego and has a book she's promoting at the moment. The remark was made in order to garner attention her way once again.

As well, being a lawyer, she's very savvy in the way she expresses her statements. Someone would argue that this isn't actually direct incitement, merely subtle interpretation - she's far too clever to incite directly, as are the likes of O'Reilly and Hannity, all three of whom are tools of the media.

She'll come a cropper one day, however. Regrettably, in a society founded upon the First Amendment, we have to take the wheat with the chaff. Rather than prohibit her or arrest her, the first step might just be for everyone to ignore this piece of detritus. By not paying attention to her rantings, she's not being given the bully pulpit - but if she has to have it, I'd like to see whoever's interviewing her do this: Instead of arguing with her, LAUGH at her. Laugh at the inanity of what she's saying or suggesting, and encourage others to do likewise. If she wants to command centre stage, then make her performance worthy of theatre of the absurd. She'll soon go away.
I love what Enlightened Belle says--Laugh. I've always thought that was the way to conquer bullies of the school variety. As a teacher, I've tried to convey to kids that the best way to prevent bullying is to actually, sincerely not care what the jerk is saying. It might have to start with pretending you don't care, but the goal is to really not care and maybe even move into the "I feel sorry for you" or "You're so absurd it's hysterical" territories. It's the best way to squelch the power that bullies have.
Well done! You covered some territory here. Thomas is probably going to be there in his 90's. Only the good die young.

I'll ask again: Why does Ann Coulter have an adams apple?

One more question: How are kids supposed to get their prescription medications when they're in school? It's been a while...all the little ones are too grown for this stupidity.
I'm with ablonde; I can't bear to even type her name either, but check this out: #1 American Taliban:

http://adultthought.ucsd.edu/Culture_War/The_American_Taliban.html