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Lorraine Berry lives in the Fingerlakes region of New York, although it's her transplanted home. On weekends, she can be heard throughout the area, cheering on her beloved Manchester City F.C. When not writing at Does This Make Sense? or Talking Writing, she can be found hiking with her two dogs, hanging out with her two daughters, eating what her beloved Rob has cooked for her, or teaching creative writing at a small college in the area.

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OCTOBER 19, 2011 12:03AM

Pat Buchanan Says I am Killing White Culture

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Can Western civilization survive the passing of the European peoples whose ancestors created it and their replacement by Third World immigrants? Probably not, for the new arrivals seem uninterested in preserving the old culture they have found.

Those who hold the white race responsible for the mortal sins of mankind -- slavery, racism, imperialism, genocide -- may welcome its departure from history. Those who believe that the civilization that came out of Jerusalem, Athens, Rome and London to be the crowning achievement of mankind will mourn its passing.

Pat Buchanan mourns the loss of the white majority. According to him, by 2041, white people will be a minority in both Europe and the USA, and, according to Pat, it's the end of the world as we know it. And he does not feel fine. 

If you're looking for reasoned analysis, read no further.

I'm too fucking tired. I think I'm just going to take to my fainting couch and have a case of the vapors. I'm going to gather my lovely children around me, and instruct them in the gentle, moral arts, so that both my daughters grow up to be fine mothers, who recognize that despite their intellects, their ambitions, and their dreams, when push comes to shove, (and a lady never shoves,) their jobs are about putting their children above all.

The fate of Western, elite, white society depends upon it.

I produced two white children, and they need to breed huge numbers of children in order to compete against those others who can't stop having children. 

Pat is terrified of what's going to happen when the Hispanic population grows: 

In every presidential election since Bush I in 1992, Hispanics have given 60-70 percent of their votes to the Democratic ticket.

For Hispanics, largely poor and working class, are beneficiaries of a cornucopia of government goods -- from free education to food stamps to free health care. Few pay federal income taxes.

Why would they not vote for the Party of Government?

 You think I'm kidding, don't you? Pat Buchanan, who still has a regular gig on "Morning Joe" and "Hardball," somehow considered to be representative of the intellectual right, is speaking like a crazy person. 

It was Molly Ivins who said, after his 1984 speech to the Republican National Convention, that she understood the speech sounded better in its original German. 

But it's not just Hispanics who have got Pat's knickers in a twist. It's African-Americans, too. And it's not because they're going to vote for Democrats. It's that black people are dumb. 

Third, the decline in academic test scores here at home and in international competition is likely to continue, as more and more of the children taking those tests will be African-American and Hispanic. For though we have spent trillions over four decades, we have failed to close the racial gap in education. White and Asian children continue to outscore black and Hispanic children.

Can the test-score gap be closed? With the Hispanic illegitimacy rate at 51 percent and the black rate having risen to 71 percent, how can their children conceivably arrive at school ready to compete?

Yes, you read that right. The failure of white people (that is, WOMEN) to breed is leading to the decline of our civilization.

And, finally, Pat knows that we're going to become a nation of unskilled, uneducated, mongrels.

Second, the economic crisis of California, brought on by an outflow of taxpayers and a huge influx of tax consumers -- i.e., millions of immigrants, legal and illegal -- will be mirrored nationally.

For though the majority of immigrants and illegals comes to work, and work hard, most now come from Third World countries and do not bring the academic or professional skills of European-Americans.

 

Those who insist that the fight over abortion is about "life," are naive. It's about the idea that precious white babies are being aborted and you-know-who are keeping their babies.  You can call me paranoid, but I don't think that it's accidental that at the same time that we have a virtual war going on against women in the United States (and that war is spreading throughout the West) --just one example among many over the right to privacy--at the same time, another assault has been re-launched. It's all part and parcel of the same meme: women are selfish creatures. We cannot be trusted. (Is it assumed that white men always want to breed and it's white women who are the selfish ones?)

Pat doesn't go off on one of his anti-woman rants, but it's implicit in his argument. Selfish white women are causing the decline of our culture. If we insisted on staying home and having our men keep us knocked up, well, we'd be a lot better off now, wouldn't we? 

It's not enough that we're opting out of giving birth. Those of us who are giving birth are still selfish, because we go back to work and return to our careers and our children are suffering. And it's all our fault. Ours. Not this culture's. Not men's. And not the fault of our social inferiors--you know, those women of colour or lesser financial standing. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink. No. It's women's fault, although when you look closely at the articles, it mostly seems to be the fault of elite white women who are letting down the race.

It doesn't seem to matter that many of these critics have cockeyed views of a past that didn't exist. You could say their views of history are mythological, romanticized, a sort of fascist aesthetic in which women were kind, and gentle, and gave willingly every last ounce of their souls to those around them. Never asking for anything for themselves. Always serving themselves last. Always putting others first. Volunteering. If they had to work, they went into the "helping" professions.

Never mind the thousands and thousands of pages of historical research that has argued that our notion of a "private sphere" is a modern phenomenon. Domesticity is a part of ideology; but somehow, sacred domesticity gets a free pass.

I'm apoplectic with rage over the bullshit droolings of an old, bitter, intellectually challenged old man. 

 

 

I was an historian in my previous life. I knew that I had read Buchanan's ragings somewhere else. 

And so it follows in Hitler's thinking, if there is a supreme form of human, then there must be others less than supreme, the Untermenschen, or racially inferior. Hitler assigns this position to Jews and the Slavic peoples, notably the Czechs, Poles, and Russians.

In Mein Kampf, Hitler states: "...it [Nazi philosophy] by no means believes in an equality of races, but along with their difference it recognizes their higher or lesser value and feels itself obligated to promote the victory of the better and stronger, and demand the subordination of the inferior and weaker in accordance with the eternal will that dominates this universe."

Hitler then states the Aryan is also culturally superior.

"All the human culture, all the results of art, science, and technology that we see before us today, are almost exclusively the creative product of the Aryan..."

"Hence it is no accident that the first cultures arose in places where the Aryan, in his encounters with lower peoples, subjugated them and bent them to his will. They then became the first technical instrument in the service of a developing culture."

Hitler goes on to say that subjugated peoples actually benefit by being conquered because they come in contact with and learn from the superior Aryans. However, he adds they benefit only as long as the Aryan remains the absolute master and doesn't mingle or inter-marry with inferior conquered peoples.

But it is the Jews, Hitler says, who are engaged in a conspiracy to keep this master race from assuming its rightful position as rulers of the world, by tainting its racial and cultural purity and even inventing forms of government in which the Aryan comes to believe in equality and fails to recognize his racial superiority

Buchanan isn't even apologetic for parrotting the writings of one of the largest mass murderers in world history. Why should he apologize? If you can bring yourself to read the comments, many people agree with him. 

 

What do I take from this? I think I need to stop working so hard, for one thing.

It's also time for me to start grooming my girls for their real duties. Never mind that one wants to go to medical school and the other wants to become a wildlife biologist. That's just plain wrong. Even though they've had an example of a mother who has managed to have a career and do a pretty kick-ass job of raising them, I've been doing it wrong. I'm a fuckup and a failure according to the forces of darkness out there.

So, off I go to the couch. Be a dear and fetch me a bon-bon, won't you?

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R and F! Thanks for taking the time to write about this from your heart and share your important insights into this phenomenon. Also for calling out that white supremacist Buchanan by name. He and the rest his ilk now feel even MORE empowered to say these types of things because they can now say boldly, "Look at me. See. I'm not a racist. I think Herman Cain's great" or "I support Herman Cain." In other words, Cain's one of them because he says the kinds of racist things they used to wish they could say in public and now can.

When you get a chance, come on over and check out my new article on this ploy: "Herman 'Bigsby' Cain: 'Black White Supremacist'"
http://open.salon.com/blog/ronrobinson/2011/10/17/herman_bigsby_cain_black_white_supremacist
Thanks, Ron. I'm on my way.
Earlier this year, there were billboards that stated, "the most dangerous place for African Americans is inside the womb."

Never mind that these essentially stated that black women could not be trusted with their own bodies or the welfare of their families. Also ignore the fact that these billboards said nothing about how giving access to healthcare and education would help most African Americans and improve their lives and the safety of their neighborhoods. Nope, the same people who fret over the growing number of non-whites in the U.S. want to make it impossible for minority women to have any say over their own bodies or the well being of their families - so long as they have no responsibility to help these non-whites.
Oh, and when you have that chat with your girls about there proper role in life, don't forget to remind them to be good little republican voting Christians, as well.

Pat will be SO proud of you if you do. (and isn't that what it's all about anyways?)
Some of my grammar and syntax was making me nuts, so I just fixed it.
FLW, I love you. At the same time, I hate, and have for decades hated, Pat Buchannan, blithering neighborhood bully and human penis walking upright. That hasn't changed much, except that as he becomes more and more transparent in his Naziism he becomes more and more like an old, empty wineskin, about to fold up, a victim of godless gravity. Before that happens, though, one of my fondest ambitions is to kick him in the nuts, then watch him fold up. Probably won't get to do that.

I fathered three nominally white kids (of somewhat mongrel pedigree), but they've always known what they really are and what they need to be. The girls, in particular, have been sucessful in adding to the horror that lives inside Buchannan's burning skull. One of them even married a brown man, and Indian, one of those ahem Aryan types that so confounded uncle Adolph back in the day. The other daughter married a cowboy and lives in a tiny town in Georgia, where she is a missionary for the cause of bald and florid reason. The son is a musician. Enough said.

When all the sarcasm is brushed aside it becomes clear who has won and who has lost. Buchannan will die, sooner than later, a bitter, ignorant old man poisoned by hate. Your daughters will flourish in this brave new world for which you have not only prepared them but have helped to create. Mine will too. And we both will rejoice in all of that.

Life is good. It's going to get better, inexorably, as the colors run together forming children of the future. I'm proud that with any luck I'll get to see what those look like. I'm proud also to count you as a beloved friend.

Pat Buchannan? I'm not proud of him, but I also didn't make him. And I will, given even a split second of chance, kick him solidly in the nuts. He won't even feel it. r
"and, according to Pat, it's the end of the world as we know it. And he does not feel fine." lmao

This guy is nuts-- regardless of his current following --ahem-sheep-- he will go down in history as a racist whack job
How dare you and other white women fail to keep up with the untermenschen? ;-)

Someday Pat Buchanan and the kind of people who value his opinions will all be dead of old age, and the world will be a better place for it.
The problem with conservatives from my perspective is, that no matter how correct they are on a number of issues,( Pat Buchanan on foreign policy or Ron Paul on social libertarian issues), they have these other ideas that ultimately boil down to a defense of specific races and classes. And that is the beef in your blog.
How long does it take to set the slavery/segregation clock back to zero? For 400 years, a society makes the education of a race illegal and tends to kill those who demonstrate the most intelligence (e.g. organizing escape attempts, mouthing off, and so forth). Then, once that race is freed, there's another 100 years of deliberately inferior educational opportunities. With all that in mind, the relative success of the black middle class at present is encouraging. I do regret that despite 500 years of oppression, we are bringing down test scores for Mr. Buchanan, but you know.

Ron Robinson: The reaction to Cain is similar to the reaction to Clarence Thomas in 1991. Every 20 years, there's a new pet black conservative apparently. What I find interesting is that these guys actually benefit from a conservative affirmative action -- while knocking the larger affirmative action. Conservatives so want to claim they are not racist -- look at the black guy they like -- that they latch onto someone who is objectively speaking, not that impressive. Who cares if the guy shares your beliefs, Thomas was a lightweight compared to the man he replaced (Marshall) and Cain has never even held elected office. (Why is this still considered a positive? My biggest criticism of Obama is that he does not know how to play the political game and maneuver Washington. Cain as chief executive of the country cannot function as he would as chief executive of a company.)
Who says that Pat Buchanan is white? Pat Buchanan's grandma and grandpa might have lied about who got who back in the 1600's when Pat Buchanan was born. ha ha!

This creep is why I suspect White liberals of my generation. Here's why: Rachel Maddow was calling him "Uncle Pat" until shortly before his on-air racist diatribe. She sat there and let him spew, then blew him off. He has never been on her show again, but I got a clear message that she knew he was a racist long before he lost his mind on the air.

Too many dads and uncles and aunties and moms of progressives and liberals of all races and ethnicity are and have been hardcore racists. Some of that lives in all of us.

Humanity's only hope are the children who are seven generations removed from the sins of the fathers.

The problem is that fathers and mothers keep committing the sins, so the generations never complete the process!

Thanks for writing this. Thanks for calling out a very troubled man who does not deserve the air time or attention that he receives.
You're damn right white women are responsible for the entire downfall of such a powerful nation. We are at fault because we stopped spreading our legs for chauvinistic bastards like the white men you wrote about. Keep them closed girls!! We're almost there!!

It's just ridiculous to blame anyone but the government, which means we must blame the people who elected them. The policies they are making allow illegal immigrants to receive free money and services which is draining the economy and making families less able to afford to have and raise children.

However, failure to breed is not the only reason that the demographics of our society in the US are changing. Take a poll and you'll see that an astounding number of Americans are leaving the country for better jobs and prospects and also better lives in other countries. While other countries think the US is the land of dreams, Americans are realizing it's not and getting the hell out so they can have enjoyable lives somewhere else. Funny how that works out isn't it?
Pat and Newt are like the undead who just keep coming back. Why???
Pat Buchanan's predictions are also way off the wall, alarmist and and he sounds like a lunatic. Right wingers have been saying this about the "white race" for 100 years now. Regarding America, many of the hispanics coming here consider themselves "white," so he's pretty racist if he doesn't consider them so. Further, in Europe, the stats he cites are totally insane. At the most, Islamic immigrants only comprise 15% or so of the population and don't make a dent in Europe's cultural identity. Islamic and African immigration to Europe are actually decreasing, not because of racism and ethnocentrism, but because of the danger in getting there: lots of organized crime, prostitution, pirate, criminal groups involved. Lots of terrorism and political instability between the two major cultural regions and people feel safer staying home.

Regarding the US, white numbers are declining because of a demographic transition. I don't know if he defines this, but its a well known concept. Basically, death rates for whites lowered in the 1600s, due to medical revolution. However, we were still agricultural, so birth rates were still high. This caused population explosion, such that whites became like 25% of world's population by 1890 (no joke).

However, with globalization and the spread of medical tech, infant mortality and death rates from disease, globally have also fallen, thus causing global population rates to climb and boom, just as European population rates climbed during the days when colonialism boomed. The thing is, there was a levelling out of population when the second part of the demographic transition hit Europe. The same will happen in the Third World, and the same will and does happen to all immigrant groups in America. It always has.

Once groups advance beyond a basic agricultural basis of economic existence and move into the first stages of industrial economic transactions/growth, the large birth rates attendant upon agriculture, tend to level out, as people need fewer kids, and women leave the home to work. This is natural and has happened to all countries that have left third world status and entered first and second world status. It also applies to most immigrant groups that have come to the US.

I remember reading a newpaper article from the 1890s, predicting that the US would become 70% Italian in 20 years if then-current immigration and birthrates among Italian Americans remained current. The thing is, they didn't. Not even close. Even today, Italians are only ranked third or fourth among European American ethnic group populations, by numbers, in the United States.

Pat is wrong b/c he assumes a current rate will remain constant forever, into the foreseeable future.

The one problem with Europe, though, is that birth-rates among radical religious Muslims may not have a causal relationship with economic forces, but because of religion. If low incomes can prevail among these groups, and their livelihoods sustained by way of generous social welfare policies, then there may be a problem, in that the state is subsidizing the growth of a strong religious right-wing within their own country.

The antidote to this would be to give them social welfare, perhaps, but to mandate mandatory public schooling with secular, rather than religious, values, such that democratic secular values can be instilled in the new immigrants in public school.
My family would give old Pat a heart attack. ~r
I wrote this last night when I was exhausted; before I went to sleep, however, I wrote to the Morning Joe show and asked them how they could continue to keep someone on the show who believes this way. I don't have a problem with Pat's right to free speech. But the man was a speechwriter for Nixon, and he has more presence on television than he should. Let him continue to write his shit-smeared rants, but does he need a t.v. platform to read them from? Then again, perhaps he's like a cockroach. If we keep shining a light on him, maybe he'll just go away.
As Molly Ivins said, Pat Buchannan sounds much better in the original German.

r.
Pat, easy come, easy go. As a poster child for Caucasian embarrassments, maybe he will come to look on the bright side. He's clearly a fan of food. When the Kentucky Fried Chickens disappear and are replaced by buckets o' spicy Latin bean based food, perhaps he'll reconsider his position.
Your righteous anger inspires me time and time again. And here you're beyond correct. The beauty of mortality, whether in humans or ideas, is that the bad ones, the stupid ones, the foolish ones will eventually go away. I look around my extraordinarily multi-cultural neighborhood (590 homes and so much diversity we're holding a party featuring dishes from around the world) at the young families and realize that they are color-blind. The kids in particular would equate Buchanan with insanity, if they even knew who he was. That is how it's going, notwithstanding the rantings of an irrelevant old man. Yea, America!
@AJ, how I love this~"Life is good. It's going to get better, inexorably, as the colors run together forming children of the future."
Woman....excellent as always
"It was Molly Ivins who said, after his 1984 speech to the Republican National Convention, that she understood the speech sounded better in its original German."

Yes. Yes and yes.. You did a great job venting the frustration of many of us and letting us hear it all somewhere else than in our own heads. We need to take the microphone away from the crazies and give it back to the balance and sanity. We are tortuously being manipulated by the constant corporately charged media, made docile by not achieving full communion with customer service, only automated morons and then we struggle to divorce ourselves from the overwhelming ignorance of the major players. Who made them, it seems in a way the same people who are making us passive resistors. We just get disgusted and move along and then the dimmest of us seem to like the hand waving, shouting and pageantry of the crazy right and seem to go along, even support them. It will not be long before we have some kind of greeting that will be recognizable, like Seig Heil. When you don't do it and refuse to go along, you will be suppressed and find yourself in a little camp on the outskirts of town.

The solution, keep talking, keep writing and get your stuff out there so it becomes widely read. I can think of no other solution that verbalizing what many of us are feeling and finding our voices in the majority, that includes fighting back against the corporate stranglehold on us all and the greed that is killing us. Let me tell you how that can be done, with everything you got.
What keeps him going?
Cain is getting Koch Brothers money. Buchanan's rantings are so terrible he may well get a bag o' cash too.
I'm sorry Pat, I wasn't able to reproduce at all! But the funny thing is, even if I had been able to, my offspring would have been Italian and Polish, two of the more reviled ethnic groups early in this country's history. Yes, Pat continues the fine tradition of nativists and bigots, bless his pointy little head.

Where is it written in stone that this country, or any country, will stay the same forever? Things change and people adapt. The smart ones, anyway.
My grandmother always told me: never hate anything but evil. I hate that guy.
So... how does Buchanan deal with the fact that East Asian kids, one average, outscore white kids? According to his logic, all you white women need to start marrying (or at least procreating with) Chinese and Korean men.

Oh, but then it wouldn't be that pristine WHITE culture anymore. Never mind.
Hello. You have reached The Presidential Election Year Wedge Issue Hotline. If YOU are a Democrat or left leaning independent, please PRESS 1. If YOU are a Republican or left leaning independent, please PRESS 2.

For ABORTION, press 1. For RACE, press 2. For HITLER comparisons of your designated enemy (right or left), press 3. For a mix of all three mashed into completely unproductive hyperbolic mess of nonsense, just wait for the narrator to begin your speech/essay.
Hey Malcolm,
You're welcome to read the Buchanan article at its source. Then you tell me again that I'm being hyperbolic. I NEVER use Hitler references lightly or in jest. I know what Hitler did, and I have grandparents who lived through it.
And I suppose if you are white, male and can't ever get pregnant, then anyone ever being concerned that someone may try to control their reproductive rights is really of no concern to you, right?
So, have a nice day, and thanks for playing .
This is you apoplectic? Jesus, when I get apoplectic, my reasoning and writing skills suffer somewhat….
I am sorry about your girls having to give up their dreams & shoes
to become pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen.
Teach em that the way to a man’s heart is thru
the tummy. Yummy food,
discipline at the dinner table
(the mother ALWAYS gets served last!)
and proper discussion, like how to afford a better house in a nicer (preferably gated) community away from the mudpeople.

I have ironic news for Pat. The only way to preserve the race is thru stem cells.
Every white woman gets at least 5 cloned wombs , and a big Womb-Room in her attic or basement.
After dinner, she will give hubby “dessert”, collect the, ah, leftovers, if u follow me, and feed them right into the wetworks.

This is me apoplectic.
When Buchanan talks, and he often does, about Nixon's "Southern Strategy" he always smiles, truly happy thinking about the good ol' days and how he played directly to the Klan, Birchers and other haters like the Devil himself on a fiddle from Hell to get a soon to be convicted criminal elected. Funny though, he never goes back a bit further to when people with his last name were not considered "white"- fascinating what hate engenders.
First of all, that was my phone machine, not me. Secondly, what you wrote about was part of the opening salvo of hate speech that is going to be coming from the GOP think tanks. There will also be a series of way over the top response materials from the DNP idea makers.

In the end, falling for any of it is the mistake.

List out the top 20 things that you REALLY care about and want your government to do. Now, have a staunch conservative do the same.

Then, compare the lists and see if any of this shit matters. What you did is help to begin to build the wedge that is going to keep us on the path we are on, which means DNP, GOP...don't matter, because there are a few SOBs with all the capital and power and all they want is to make sure of is that we all stay divided so that they can keep their platinum coated 747s.

Do you think any serious percentage of the right hold these things that Pat said in the front of their brain and thinks about them all the time (and, unfortunately, Pat is da man...nothing he said was necessarily wrong...it was disgusting when put together the way it was, but there wasn't a single false statement in there that I could find except for white people being a minority. Whites will still have a plurality of the population in 2041 and for some time after that)?

I'm not saying it's just you...look at the fervor in your comments. I'm sure the same info in a more right leaning space would cause a similar reaction, though obviously with opposite sentiment.

In the end. none of it matters...if things progress the way they are economically, it's gonna get worse. Lose Social Security and the hate rhetoric will get even crazier. Pretty soon, the citizens of this country will be calling for an Arab/Persian genocide, or worse, forced extinction...and, I guarantee you people who now call themselves liberal today will be lining up to take the "terrorists" to their death as much as anyone.

Block the noise and figure out what the underlying issue is that is causing the problem about which they're able to make the noise noise. Then, ask your candidates how they plan to fix it...vote for the one you think is both honest about the issue and has a feasible plan to fix it.




If you want to beat the bastards, that's how.
A note about all those Mexicans taking over - they're mostly Indian, and reclaiming a continent we immigrants of all flavors stole from them. KARMA!