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Lorraine Berry lives in the Fingerlakes region of New York, although it's her transplanted home. On weekends, she can be heard throughout the area, cheering on her beloved Manchester City F.C. When not writing at Does This Make Sense? or Talking Writing, she can be found hiking with her two dogs, hanging out with her two daughters, eating what her beloved Rob has cooked for her, or teaching creative writing at a small college in the area.

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NOVEMBER 18, 2011 11:58AM

Do NOT SAY "drink the Kool-Aid"

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We are the 300. Today is the 33rd anniversary of our deaths.

You do not think of us often, if at all.

How do we know this?

Because you are glib; you describe your rivals as people who have "drunk the Kool-Aid."

If you knew what we knew, you would never utter such a phrase again.

You would know that we were children, babes in arms.

We had no choice.

Many of our parents had no choice.

They tried to escape.

They were hunted down, hypodermic needles filled with cyanide stabbed into their backs.

And so, years later, the only thing you remember from that day was that people "willingly lined up to drink the Kool Aid."

It wasn't even Kool Aid. It was Flavor Aid.

We think you should get your facts straight.

We think you should pay attention to our screams and howls on the tapes of that day.

We think you should stop with your dismissals of those who disagree with you as dupes by using us as your example.

It is disrespectful.

Cruel.

We were human beings.

Now we are unwilling ghosts.

 My friend, Julia Scheeres, who wrote the book A Thousand Lives, sent me this link to the final day.

 There is a memorial to the lost children of Jonestown.

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sure - some -great back story here-lke how we got the xstian right. post vietnam rightward shift- modeled on JJ? !
Thank you, Bless you, for this, Lorraine. r.
Ever since I've heard the full story of Jonestown, ever since I've heard that tape of the last day--the horror and terror of what was happening, I have NEVER, EVER used that expression again.
And Julia Scheeres' book is a must-read.
Oh My God, Lorraine. This shocks me as much as it did when the news reports came out in 1978. Seems so long ago. I heard the recordings a few years after the events, I threw up. I still cannot believe the power this creature held over these people. Evil always seems to be covered by a smiling face. Its a sad, mad world. I am sorry I cannot bear to listen to the audio. I will light a candle to night for those lost souls and pray they are at rest.
r
Can it really have been 33 years already? It seems like last week to me. It seems that's how quickly people managed to turn a horror story into a sarcastic political cliche. This can happen again. It already has, in various forms. This is a holocaust that must never be forgotten, the insanity bred by cults of personality, religion and the human demonic. Thank you for this unnerving reminder. r
Thank you to all. Do you all remember that Congressman Leo Ryan was murdered by Jim Jones because Ryan had gone down there to investigate and was trying to take people out of Jonestown who were trying to escape?
Do people know that Jones had positioned sentries around the camp who rounded up anyone who tried to escape, who were then subjected to horrible punishments?
Do people know that Jones kept the folks at Jonestown half-starved and fed them almost nothing while requiring work camp-like hours of work?
Read A THOUSAND LIVES. It will change the way you think about what you have thought you knew.
flw, I appreciate this post.
I was 15 when this happened, and I definitely remember the deaths of these poor people, the news coverage, including some horrific audio - possibly the same you link to. While I was at an age of questioning all authority, I can credit this event for truly cementing my need to question what others ask of me.
The connection I had not made until reading this happened just a few years ago. I was in the middle of a series of intense personal development workshops. Trying to describe the experiences I was having, and their effects on me, my father jokingly asked me if they also required us to "drink the kool-aid". Feeling very personally insulted by this remark surprised me, and I truly didn't make the connection to the event, or how it shaped me, until now.
Thank you for making sure these "unwilling ghosts" are not forgotten! R
Thank you for writing this.
This is a good reminder. When this phrase is bandied about, we think of people obediently lining up like sheep, glugging back the poison willingly, and meekly lying down to die. The reality was chaos, and despair, and murder. The question is why do people look for some man (or woman) to tell them what to do? They're only human and imperfect like the rest of us.
Jones was an interesting figure. Prior to his descent into madness, he was active in the civil rights movement, integrating each of the churches where he was the pastor. He spread a message of racial equality. Somewhere, he went off the rails and took a lot of folks with him. It's one of the great American tragedies.
Thanks for this, Lorraine. How soon we forget.
One of the most horrific things I can remember. ~r
Wow . . . powerful stuff. It's easy to forget the reality of Jonestown . . . I don't know if I can listen to the tape, but just reading the transcript brought it home . . .
I think many who might use this phrase have little to no knowledge of the ghastly truth. Information moves so much differently now that were it to happen today again, many more would know it and retain it.You'd hope.
This is a stinging reminder to think before we speak.
When I was freshman architect, the tradition at my school was for the sophomores to host an all-school party in honor of the freshmen. I have this vivid memory of sitting on the porch steps of the party house watching a group of grinning sophomores tote in gallon jugs of kool-aid. I might have been a Vermont rube, but I knew exactly what was in that kool-aid. I'd taken acid two years before and didn't want to do it again, so I avoided the punch bowl than night and stuck to beer. Some of my classmates were more clueless, and several had very bad trips that night (at least one to a hospital). I saw a couple of them raving hours later, and it was not pleasant. This was eight years before Jonestown. I appreciate your point, and I rarely use the phrase, even though it has an extra layer of meaning to me. But it's a powerful metaphor, and I don't think it's going to go away any time soon. Never did like the sophomores much after that.
M. I agree it's a powerful metaphor. Unfortunately, it's inaccurate and, in some ways, slanderous. I could draw parallels to equally tasteless ways of blaming the victim, but I don't want to.
Still, I appreciate your point and I thank you for the horrific story about spiking the punch bowl in a devious, potentially dangerous, way.
I was a kid when this happened, so was really focused on what had happened to the kids at Jonestown. But then I grew up and forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me and for remembering those innocent victims. Great big "R"!
Points well taken. History is too often reduced to whatever convenient device people choose to make of it, all real lessons lost.

Shared.
I wonder if there are any other common phrases/idioms, like this one, that have their origins in tragedy?
Head bowed in agreement.

--r--
I read her book Jesusland and found it a compelling, moving book. I will seek out A Thousand Lives. Given her upbringing, I imagine she has some relevant insight into Jonestown.

I will always remember Jonestown because I was around ten, and I saw a magazine article with a lot of horrific pictures -- Newsweek? or Time? When you see those kinds of photos at the right age, the apex of innocence and understanding, they stick with you. It's easy to forget where the phrase "drink the Kool-aid" comes from, but I won't ever forget.
I HATE that phrase. Jonestown hit when I was a teenager, I was very affected by it. Thank you for this.
Every time I hear that expression I cringe inside. I was plagued for months by the images of little children lying dead beside the bloated bodies of their mothers. When did we get so crass?

Lezlie
Good work! I always like to leave comments whenever I see something unusual or impressive. I think we must appreciate those who do something especial. Keep it up, thanks
Helen Olsson
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Well, crap! I said that phrase ALL the time, but never thought about the kids. I'll no use it again. Thanks.
I also used to use the phrase. But I stopped, before I knew about the children, but because it seemed unseemly somehow. Don't know how I came to that conclusion. Thanks to everyone who has written such poignant responses.
thank you for posting this. a reminder to be wary, to not abdicate our good sense to anyone else no matter how charismatic. I'm listening to the tape. Evil comes in all forms. So sorry for the children.