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Lorraine Berry lives in the Fingerlakes region of New York, although it's her transplanted home. On weekends, she can be heard throughout the area, cheering on her beloved Manchester City F.C. When not writing at Does This Make Sense? or Talking Writing, she can be found hiking with her two dogs, hanging out with her two daughters, eating what her beloved Rob has cooked for her, or teaching creative writing at a small college in the area.

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DECEMBER 15, 2011 1:51PM

Tina Brown: A High School Debater's Worst Nightmare

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Is there anything that Tina Brown has helmed that hasn't immediately turned to dross? Forgetting everything she has done in the past, let's just talk about what has happened to venerable Newsweek.

I'm old enough to remember when news analysis on a weekly basis meant three choices: Time, U.S. News & World Report, and Newsweek. The three of these news magazines was essential to me: I was a high school debater, and I competed in "expository" speaking. That particular category, and its hellacious companion, "improvisation," were based on the idea that, if given a category, a student could (in expos) use the 30 minutes of prep time to speak for five minutes. (And if you did improv, too, as I did, you got 30 seconds to give a two-minute speech.)

You could always tell those of us who did expository: we were the ones with the fifty-pound flour sacks full of news magazines. After we were given our topics, you'd find us on the floor, magazines petaled around us, as we looked for recent information about trade wars with China or the latest analysis of the Begin administration in Israel. 

This was a time before Google--hell, it was a time before computers--and I just wasn't organized enough to have notecards with careful annotations telling me where to find, in which magazine, the articles I needed. My mnemonic device was the cover of the magazine, which I could vaguely remember contained the information about the newest Boeing deal. 

It doesn't matter now that computers have made all of this obsolete. Newsweek is obsolete as a news magazine. After you plough through news about each of Tina's celebrity friends, you might find out what happened in the European Parliament--but only if it's going to have a direct impact on all that cocktail conversation Tina has while hobnobbing with people who are most definitely not the hoi polloi. 

I occasionally watch Morning Joe. I do it because just once, I want to see Mika actually stand up for herself, tell Joe to STFU, and represent a point of view that doesn't smack of fratboy privileged hijinx. 

The days that Tina comes on, I mute the sound. Her toff voice, her name dropping, and the very fact that she has given Niall Ferguson an American audience are enough to nominate her as a hack. 

But what she has done to expository speaking--well, that's just plain unforgiveable. 

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I used to do the expository thing too. They let us go into the library to research.

My favorite high school speech and debate anecdote: Our team smartaleck used to carry his evidence and research around in a steamer trunk to intimidate his opponents. And just as he was about to enter the room with it he'd yell out the classroom door "All set with the affirmative evidence--you can leave the negative downstairs."
I just guffawed, Con. Those were the days, weren't they? All dressed up in our suits or dresses, nervously rehearsing what we were going to say, but only after we'd been scrambling on our knees scrounging through magazines trying to find that one article we knew was in there that would make our argument a killer.
Dear fellow members of the National Forensics League: Totally get this. Not a fan of Tina Brown, but Newsweek was pretty well in the toilet by the time she got there. (I saved our family's TIME magazines all through high school and went to college with my own library. Not exactly a scholar, I sometimes searched for paper topics based on what I could find in them..... Guess my NFL research didn't sink in.....)
if i really wanna get a stomach/head-ache, i peruse
the big 3: cnn, msnbc, fox, for a minute or two.
it gets me angry enough to realize the world is spinning
sideways.

for print, THE ECONOMIST is a cool little read.

wars and rumors of wars.
economic slapdashery.
feudalism on the ascendant.
africa suffering, our Mother Africa, whence we came.
europe pulling itself into oneness not without complaint.
europe could end up ascendant again, a true empire,
and be the next superpower.
thugs in russia.
china being weird , not good weird.
south america givin us our drugs.
santa comin from the north soon.
She gave a party when my son's book came out (he worked for her as editor-at-large at The Daily Beast before becoming editor of Forbes a couple of months ago).

She came late for her own party and left early. Her husband, Sir Harold Evans, was the charmer, and quite kind and friendly. She is extremely savvy and comfy in her skin.
She's a lightning rod, that's for sure. She seems to attract a lot of criticism. I sure noticed the difference when she took over The New Yorker.
Rated for bringing back hilarious memories of my days on my high school forensics team in the mid-'60s! I specialized in "extemporaneous speaking," as we called it then (I seem to recall we had an hour to prepare a 5-minute speech) and, oh lord! do I remember hauling around those boxes of 3" X 5" index cards, news magazine clippings, etc. Nowadays, they probably do it all on their iPads & laptops, which is SO not the same thing, and probably much less fun.

And the comment about the suits and dresses? Priceless! Just don't forget about the nylons and (modest, not stiletto) heels.

One of the things I remember most is this: I grew up in Montana, and every city big enough to host a speech meet was hundreds of miles away from my home town, and usually held at a local college/university. Being exposed to the college environment -- the cafeteria! the buildings! the dorms! the seemingly ever-so-grown-up college students (especially the men . . . sigh!) -- gave a small-town girl like me a vision of what life could be like if I, too, could work hard enough to get there eventually.

I went on to do debate in college, but it just wasn't as much fun as it was in high school, for some reason. Maybe because, by then, the team was populated primarily by budding lawyer-types who were DEADLY serious about the whole thing.
It's all the fault of people like me who used to read Time & NW religiously and who now gaze into the computer instead, occasionally passing a newsstand and thinking: there are still magazines?
ahhh the hack call!! got it now
I did not have your high school experience, obviously. I might have liked having to talk my way out of something, though.
Dear Lorraine,

While I am sad to hear that you have decided Newsweek is no longer to your particular taste, I can remain reassured that since Tina Brown's first redesigned issue of Newsweek hit newsstands in March 2011, single copy sales have risen 20%, ad pages have increased 10% YOY, digital revenue has doubled, Web traffic has increased 78% YOY and subscription renewals - in a constant state of decline since 2006 - have risen by almost 3% for the first time in 5 years.

To your point about turning everything to "dross", I would imagine that the readers of Tatler, Vanity Fair, the New Yorker, and those who enjoyed her critically acclaimed New York Times bestseller "The Diana Chronicles" would likely disagree with you, as would the 10.7 million monthly unique visitors who we see at The Daily Beast Web site each month. So, Lorraine, while we are sad to lose you as a Newsweek reader, hopefully the 14 million Americans we reach each week will continue to enjoy the magazine as Tina and the team continue to improve its metrics on all fronts.

Regards,
Andrew Kirk
Newsweek & The Daily Beast
If "The Diana Chronicles" is being held up as an example of Ms. Brown's bona fides, I have nothing to add.
I too remember enjoying Debate class and participated at three of the high schools I attended. It made me less shy and insecure, something I did get over in college.

I can't stand Tina Brown, Joe Scarborough, Mark "the smug & wrong" Helperin and I'm beginning to think Mika Brezenski's middle name is 'Doormat.' The only place I ever see Newsweek is in the waiting room at the medical practice where my family doctor practices. I never look at any of those magazines given that they are pawed over by sick and sneezing, but otherwise nice people. I think the iPad was invented just so I could comfortably avoid germy rags like Newsweek.
Amazing to think someone as powerful as Tina Brown is so threatened by a personal opinion. But one thing I remember from my time as an entertainment reporter/film critic is that there are none so insecure as those at the top who secretly suspect they are not that good. Imagine having a flack post your mini-resume in a comment section!
And Lorraine, he apparently did not take your point about the complete "celebrification" of everything Tina touches. That would have required some analysis/critical thinking, which are clearly no longer on the agenda of the publications he touts so proudly. The idea that dumbing down is the only path to gaining readers is pathetic and shameful.
I liked your post flw but that NewsBeast comment is really a hoot. Right out of Talking Points Central. How to tell someone you think they're full of shit is the nicest way possible, while tooting your own horn. Getting a flunky to do it is even better. Hats off to you for drawing this kind of attention.
I'll take this blog over Tina Brown any day if the week. You say things like "magazines petaled around us" and " hoi polloi" while TB says things like, "blech blech blech. I know Tom Cruise." Rail on, sister. And for the record, I no longer read Newsweek either.
As someone who had to deal with debating Ben Stein in high school for practice (once upon a time not an easy assignment, unlike now), I've never had patience for Tina Brown or people like her (and yes, there are people like her - too many, actually). Now comes Andrew Kirk, who makes Stein look like the genius he once was, and I find my patience running in the negative numbers. I think something fine and wonderful happened here, to be honest. Rave on, FLW. I wonder if Newsweek will feel as bad about losing me. Somehow I doubt it. But I know where they live. Oh, yes I do. r.
Why do people give her work? I remember the shock when she took over at the New Yorker. I just don't get it. But, hey, congratulations on getting a Daily Beast flack to come and post a whiny rebuttal on your page. That was bizarre.
Dear Andrew,
While I appreciate that Newsweek's numbers have gone up, I believe the word count in each issue has gone down. Lots of photographs, lots of celebrity profiles, an occasional commentary by one of Ms. Brown's friends, but not a lot of hard news.
Perhaps that's what the American public wants. I have plenty of other places to get my news from. And, as the American electorate's understanding of the issues continues to slide, I'm sure you all will find plenty of places to offer readers shiny, rather than substantive, things.
Good luck with your publications. And thanks for stopping by.
Yes! I watch Morning Joe for the same reason. And I use the mute button for the same reason too. ~r
Oh great! Tina Brown is reaching 14 million people? The Newsweek numbers didn't go up because it began delivering incisive pertinent news media under Brown's management. They went up proportionally to whatever celebrity factor Ms. Brown could inject. Methinks they doth protest too much with the torrent of "metrics" in the comment here. Metrics...
FLW, good response to Mr. Kirk, whose feeble attempt to discredit your voice speaks more loudly even than your original remarks.

And I agree with you about Mika, who seems like MSNBC's version of Alan Colmes—present on Morning Joe more for the illusion of balanced-and-fair than for the reality of it. Maybe having Joe on the air makes MSNBC feel more politically balanced, but it's not his politics I object to, it's his willingness (and, sadly, sometimes Mika's as well) to blather without apparent attention to fact. It's always so much easier to make strong political points if a factual basis to your arguments is not required. I hear them talking about this or that random internet rumor and propaganda and wonder if they're doing any verification at all or if they have any concept of the damage it does to not do so. They become not only part of the meme but an amplifying factor, since anything they say becomes instantly more credible just because of who said it and where. Just one more form of dumbing down news standards... not that they're news, but their show runs on a news channel, so it's easy to see why people might be confused.
As a former hs debator, too, I wholly agree w this. r.
I had a tyrannical editor named Tina Brown, so I'm too biased to comment on this one without breaking into a tirade of profanity. I have to wonder, tho, if Con's smartaleck debate team member went into law or comedy. I almost said "too," but that would have been too smartalecky.
"...magazines petaled around us..." Excellent!
Aside from the Andrew Kirk kerfuffle, I'm amused that so many OS'ers were high school debaters!
This is fabulous, from the opening lines to the closing to the very subject herself. "...her toff voice" -- oh god, I can't stop giggling over that one.
My response to the increase in Newsweek's sales can only be that volume does not mean quality. People in this country spend a lot of money on meaningless crap....reality shows, mindless movies etc.
Lorraine, this is a great addition to the hack list. And I think Tina's lapdog Andrew has aspirations to one day join that auspicious rogue's gallery.

Andrew said "...I can remain reassured that since Tina Brown's first redesigned issue of Newsweek hit newsstands in March 2011, single copy sales have risen 20%, ad pages have increased 10% YOY...

I understand what the words mean, and I get a sense of what he's trying to say, but why on earth would anyone associated with a news magazine, however ersatz, would attempt that particular syntax?

"I can remain assured..."? What the hell? Why would his assured stasis matter in the least? And to reconfigure LSD's comment just above, there are billions more cockroaches than people in the world but that doesn't make them a higher life form.

(I was never on a debate team—I'm a slow thinker. Not retarded per se, just tend to mosey—though occasionally I rise to deliver a bon mot in a timely manner.)
I was a high school debater, too, so I enjoyed this post thoroughly.
It's a tabloid world.
thank you for lamenting Ferguson's platform. That an idjut!! and I agree. Newsweek now ranks one rung below "People" - and I keep it in the loo too, b/c we all know how helpful that can be :)
I'm sorry to say this, because, really, I love the English, but people like Tina Brown "make it" here because generations of Americans have fawned and tripped over themselves when it comes to the Brits. Ask yourself why NBC and other mainstream news outlets spent millions of dollars covering "the royal wedding." Didn't we fight a Revolutionary War to get away from monarchies? Who gives a rat's ass about the British royal family? There are more than 21 million Americans who carry Spanish blood in their veins, and I don't see NBC et al covering the Spanish royal family's every move, wedding, vacation and tour of other countries. Thank you!
I taught forensics for eight years, and no, it has nothing to do with CSI damn it! It is a shame.
Oh Deborah. I'm a Brit, and don't even get me started on the royal family, that inbred load of medieval, thick, parasites. I've been calling for the abolition of the aristocracy in England for years, but so many of my American friends LOVE the royals, think it's cute and all. ugh.

Thanks to all of you who have reminded me that forensics was fun!
I had an English boyfriend once, a Brummie, who just tore my heart into pieces. I loved him so much. I used to dream of living in England with him. Can you imagine? Me, a short, dark Latina from Colorado, warming the pot and making bangers and mash for him in Birmingham? We met in South America and it was such a whirlwind romance. I also had a wonderful English roommate, a fellow journalist, in Caracas, Venezuela, whom I loved dearly. She taught me how to make a proper shepherd's pie, shortbread, and other goodies. Damn it. I'm just as much of an Anglophile as everyone else. Sigh.
Deborah,
I've just been baking my version of Dundee Cake. It's an Xmas tradition in our house.
Yum! Recipe and blog, please!
I think the daily beast is better visually/conceptually organized than the huffpost which is one of the biggest mishmashes ever put down in cyberspatial ink.
as for newsweek maybe you didnt notice but it was in a long, long slide before tina ever touched it. she agreed to buy it for $1 & attempt to rescue/resuscitate it.
I did that speech class thing too, for us it was called "extemporaneous speaking".... one of the more awkward classes of my life, ugh, some traumatic experiences in that
one strange thing about newsweek-- for years it seemed to have the highest density of cigarrette ads of almost any magazine out there.
some more comments/reactions. Im finding the official Tina Brown lackey response highly amusing as well. it attests to the rising influence of this social media we're working in--isnt it freakin amazing that they noticed this small corner of cyberspace? Ive seen several open salon writers write on huffpost etc. ... facebook is announcing a social media-constructed news page. revolutionary, possibly.

we have to look at the background/backdrop here. ink media is in massive, possible terminal decline over about 2 decades. its a shrinking watering hole and all the remaining beasts are getting anxious, stressed, and in some cases biting and even eating each other. the new generation just doesnt read ink media much any more. the biggest threat is newspapers, but magazines are close behind. it would be interesting to plot subscriber counts for some major magazines-- youd be aghast in some cases. this phenomenon is poorly publicized of course by the MSM that has no incentive to inform you of this reality. there was an amazing profile of the LATimes reorg over the last few years-- a stunning read [maybe I will dig that up]. NYTimes is just scraping by as well compared to its heyday. very uncertain times. still all in transition. its not clear what the new formulas are. the new cyberspatial reality will fundamentally not support massive corporations or large news bureaus. "trading offline dollars for online pennies" as far as advertising revenue. murdoch esp is in a lowlevel/near panic. his killing news of the world in a heartbeat is a indication of how much it was really now worth to him & his empire.....
another interesting exercise is to juxtapose tina brown with anna wintour. [and arianna huffington.] wow! two movies out on anna wintour within last few yrs, one a documentary, the other Devil Wears Prada. another interesting small-degree-of-separation factoid is that in the book, the devil wears prada girl/protagonist/backstabber said she wants to work at the New Yorker as her dream and the wintour character replies, "too nuts and bolts". as I recall wintour never even went to college.. maybe? lets go dig up their resumes & biographies and write something really substantive eh? instead of this highschool level gossipy sniping and namecalling? these are the movers and shakers of the past, & the moment & maybe a significant slice of the future.
Tina Brown sent a Daily (Nasty) Beast reporter to Bozeman Montana to get some real dirt for the Beast, and he wasn't there even a few hours before the back window of his rental vehicle has been broken out (and all the glass cleaned up) at his motel. The cop that arrived asked him, "Do you know anyone in this town that might not like you?"

Apparently he said, "all of them. I guess they don't like reporters." The cop then asks what story he came to cover, and when he said Greg Mortenson, the cop closed his book, and told him, well, call your insurance man, and you can get duck tape at the convenience store over there.

Gee, I wonder why the Beast has been so negative? The desk clerk probably did it!
Yeah, but for a while, the NY Times was full of stories about Judith Miller's friends.
I've heard of duct tape, but what is "duck" tape? Confused.
Too many, and i daresay only, brits on your media waves, how about some continental accents instead of posh ones? you might like them.......
In 1959, I subscribed to Newsweek on the advice of my high school civics teacher - and known liberal and, based on information about him I gave to my parents about what a great teacher he was, a "commie."

My subscription continued, nearly uninterrupted (except by Vietnam ) until last year when Ms Brown took over the magazine. I gave her a shot at it for 6 months or so and I found Newsweek to have degenerated to not much more than a version of People Magazine.

Thus, a 50 year attachment to Newsweek came to a sad end. Whatever my passion for current events may be, Newsweek was part and parcel in its creation.

If their metrics are all so positive, as Mr. Kirk claims, the question then becomes: Who are their readers?