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MAY 30, 2012 10:28PM

Writing Less to Make it More

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Toni Morrison, winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature for her novel “Beloved,” was awarded the Medal of Freedom today.  President Obama said of her, “Toni Morrison's prose brings us that kind of moral and emotional intensity that few writers ever attempt. From ‘Song of Solomon’ to ‘Beloved,’ Toni reaches us deeply, using a tone that is lyrical, precise, distinct, and inclusive. She believes that language arcs toward the place where meaning might lie.”

While preparing dinner yesterday I turned on PBS in the middle of an interview with her. As I seasoned the pork chops I heard her say: “I can write forever about anything of a character. But I wanted this to be -- it's harder to write less to make it more.  And that's what was engaging to me when I was writing this book.”  Write less to make it more.  Whoa! I ran over to the notepad and wrote that down while thinking, oh, crap, I missed most of this interview, momentarily forgetting that I could watch it on line.  Duh.  I logged on tonight and read the transcript of the interview, and it was great (in the part of the interview that caught my ear the previous night she was referring to her new novel "Home") .

At one point in the interview Ms. Morrison talked about how she didn’t want her books to be in separate African American sections of bookstores, although many African American writers did.  “I sort of wanted to be alphabetized.”  It’s a wonderful interview, and you can find it here:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/entertainment/jan-june12/tonimorrison_05-29.html

Okay, moving away from the interview, I’ve been thinking a lot about what she said about writing less to make it more.  One of my biggest struggles in my writing is to say more.  I’m a pretty straight-forward writer, and I’m not good with metaphors or similes or other descriptions of place and time.  I’m a decent story-teller who is pretty good at plot but not the other stuff.  I so admire writers who can turn a beautiful phrase and describe a feeling or a sunrise or a damn blade of grass in such a way to make me stop and think to myself, wow, that is some truly fine writing. Many of those writers are here on OS, and I just cannot believe sometimes that I am part of this amazing community.  And so maybe I can come to terms with that.  Do what I do but continue to appreciate and stand in awe of the writers who can write with such loveliness, who have that gift, and not beat myself up because I don’t.  I can at least try to make my writing “more” even if it’s less. 

AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster 

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You are more than worthy, when I started here I could not even make a good sentence or spell so we watch the masters and we learn. I think there are so many of us lucky to have found this place.
There are a few good writers here. But mostly it is about bullshitting and bitching and dismay. And beauty. And cries for help. But maybe that's what good writing is about. You pick through the pile and sometimes find a shiny spoon or a piece of broken bottle polished by the sea and sand.
Firechick,I really enjoyed your sharing here.Indeed,think of tears..of just one tear...what the tear hides inside,where the tear comes from,where is it going...what a tear can say without uttering a word..I think that I could call my self a writer when I can write something so true,meaningful,simρle and coming from the heart as the truth of one tear.I have communicated and understood and learned more from tears than from words!!Thank you for sharing..I really liked your work,cause it made me think on what is the core,the essence,the meaning I want to mean,with my writing...Thank you,Firechick...I do that too,always write on my greynotebook what writers and others say...to use their words as my advice...Rated!!!
FC, thought of you -- again -- while watching one of those storms of raging heat out of control, somewhere out west. To your piece, I really enjoyed seeing Toni Morrison being recognized. It is one thing to write well; but to her credit, she does so with that gem fire that lights up the room, gives true perspective to each carefully drawn character, breathing life into each exchange. She saw her opportunity and dove deep ...
I really feel that women, especially women of minority experience, will be the ones that tell us who we are.
Thank you for sharing. Do keep writing. You're appreciated.
A judicious use of words jam packed with meaning. If I ever do it, its by accident.

You are a good story teller and engage the reader, and if you can't engage, it doesn't matter what you write.
This is a wonderful piece of writing, and a wonderful reflection. Thanks for pointing us to the Morrison interview!
Thanks for posting this well-written piece; your writing is always refreshing and a pleasure to read for exactly the reason you mention - its straight-forwardness. It is clean and concise. Metaphors and that other stuff can bog down a good piece if they're not done well and make it look like the writer was trying too hard. I am guilty of that and it's a hard habit to break. It's like going to the grocery store on an empty stomach and grabbing anything that looks good, filling up the cart with all kinds of things you shouldn't buy (see? can't resist doing it.) I love her expression "writing less to make it more"; ironic but so true.
My English Professor has this to say on English, writing and composition:

Only by reading good writing can you learn what good writing is. If you cannot recognize good writing in others, how will you know it when you're doing it?

She also said, if you're not learning, you're probably dead.

--r--
I like the "I just want to be alphabetized". Quite an honor just to be in that particular alphabet.

Much deserved, for you both.
I like reading your stuff. I am a bit of a snob in that I like good diction and grammar, hate mispelled words, and leave when it's boring. So far, I've never left your posts.

If that counts for anything.
Thank you so for the link to this interview, Firechick. I was riveted by Toni Morrison from the first opening words of Sula. So happy for her Honor, much deserved, and I too love that she just wants to be in the shelves; no special cubbyhole. She most certainly belongs in no such place!
I love Toni Morrison and am very glad that she was honored.
Thank you for this piece and for making me think harder about what makes a great writer.
Firechick, you've taken the best lesson I can imagine from that interview. I, too, admire - and envy - writers who can fire the imagination with the merest suggestion or just the right word or combination or rhythm or...space. It's hard to learn. Hard to understand. I think it depends a lot on who we are trying hardest to reach - our Muse, a certain reader (maybe imaginary) we feel especially compatible with, some all-knowing, appreciative, loving spirit? This explains the awe many, including myself, have for good poetry. Someone once, in a writing class, cited the shortest, most powerful sentence in the bible: "Jesus wept." Now there was a writer!
in theater there is a saying "less is more". What you want to do as an actor is convey enough authentic feeling to bring your audience with you on the journey. Giving them too much makes them "audience". That's what I want to do with my writing too. Thank you for this. I love Toni Morrison and I would have missed this interview if you hadn't written about it.
LL2 -- Thanks so much for your kind words. I do learn so much here, you're right.

Jan -- That's just beautiful. Even your comments are lovely.

Stathi Stathi -- I think for so many of us, writing is a way to cope with our grief, whatever the cause. Thank you so much.

inthisdeepcalm -- Thanks for thinking of me. I will end up on one of those monster fires out West before the summer is up. I really like your term "gem fire." So cool. She is so deserving of all her accolades. What a great thought about women telling us all who we are. Thanks.

asia -- You do not give yourself enough credit -- no accident. Thanks for your compliment -- it means a lot.

sky -- thanks, friend.

Deborah -- Thank you so much. I'm glad you like the interview, I believe every writer should watch/read it.

Margaret -- Thanks, it truly means a lot to me coming from you. I often feel that it shows I'm trying to hard when I do that, sometimes hard to step back. I love your grocery store analogy, it is spot on.

dunniteowl -- Your are fortunate to have that English teacher. Good stuff. Thanks.

Kate -- I know, I love that, too. What a nice wish for all of us. Thanks so much.

phyllis -- are you kidding me? That is HUGE! Counts for a lot, my friend, thanks.

Songbird -- I so agree. Thanks for reading.

ladyfarmerjed -- So glad you liked the interview as I did. I think we all strive to be better writers, and it's great when something really reaches out and taps us on the shoulder.

Chicken Maaan -- It IS so hard to learn and understand, at least for me. And I think you're right about it being sometimes about who we are writing to or for. That passage in the bible ALWAYS gives me chills, and I'm not much of a Bible person. Great writing is great writing. Thanks.
clarifying...you want to turn your "audience" into participants with you on the emotional journey. Sorry. I should never try to write before coffee.
mimetalker -- that's really cool, I'd never heard it put that way. You're right, great advice for writing, too. I'm so glad you were able to catch the interview. Thanks.
Just the other day I said to my husband that I am the Charles Dickens of blogging. I desperately need to write less to make it more! (Although I think one of my strengths - and yours too - is writing as I think and speak. What you read is really who I am. I feel that with you as well.) Think I'll go and watch that interview.
I love your stories and your writing style. I just wish there were more of them! You are good and I don't really know what that means but I know I like to read your words and listen. You go deep. I like that. Thanks.
Nothing wrong with your writing, FC -- in fact, quite the opposite. It's why you're on my favourites list. As for the OS community as a whole, there are some incredibly talented people here, and it's been a blast reading their work.
So much of my own character and world view come from great writers and I constantly do battle with the "noise." I can skim most writing with a glance, but what is that worth? What do I gain from it? Reading is an investment of my time and if I don't come away from it with something of value it is a waste.

Less is not necessarily more, People Magazine comes to mind, and more doesn't necessarily add value, Atlas Shrugged is evidence of that excess. I'm looking for a balance in what I read and how I write that is confirmed in my level of enjoyment. For me the test of the best is when I read slowly and I'm left wanting more. That separates good writing from the "noise."
if you feel what you write...i think the rest will take care of itself....unless you're a key-poker like me...lol...
R.
Coincidentally I've Toni Morrison's eloquent solicitation for the SPLC here computer side. The mailer also offers a free book,
'A Lawyer's Journey: The Morris Dees Story.' Apparent thumbnail cover jacket reviews are included by Jimmy Carter, Rosa Parks, and this by Kurt Vonnegut:
"Morris Dees has put his life on the line again and again to win for strangers in courts of law constitutional rights...No soldier has ever been braver, more honorable, and more patriotic than
Morris Dees."

I mention this as an attempt to further compliment your fine rendering, Firechick. There's much cyber-protein in your work, a measure of fearlessness and rightful inquisitiveness apparently wondering if there is one aphorism or 'method' scribes might employ. "...it's harder to write less to make it more..." in my view, is another of those 'nice' sounding bromides of interest, many of which are neat sounding and often revelatory for a pause, but at the same time 'better sounding' than practical. Like any craft or profession, there's an incessant cascade of advice. The current continued over-emphasis on brevity and anti-alliteration often confuses itself with the MSM/Corporate thirst for abundant, often insouciant profits. While critical, adroit thinking and KNOWLEDGE become nothing other than an anachronistic, knotted sideshow wherein the cartoon cannon explodes and HUMANITY disappears--rumored to stay gone.

R
Nice post and good advice - write less and say more.

r
Wow, that is some truly fine writing.
Far more in your words here than you might yet see.
You touch on so many things...most importantly, keep going, keep writing. "Words, words, words..." Hamlet said. Indeed.
Less is better. I think prose must be intense. Whether a writer describes his character's emotions, actions must compel readers' interests in the storyline and every intangible attribute should convey an essence of wanting to know what happens next.
Firechick the thing I enjoy about your posts is the conversation - reading you (and many others here) is like sitting at your kitchen table listening to you talk, having a great afternoon visit between friends.

There are as many ways to write as there are reasons to read ;).

Rated for worth is in the eye of the beholder..
and many here behold yours :).
Writing is not all pretty poseys...You have a talent for what is now being called Creative Nonfiction. You might have a talent for technical writing. And guess what? The pay is better in those fields. So laugh all the way to the bank, sweetie. There's plenty of places your current kind of writing has power; here we appreciate your opinion and voice... But there is always practice if you want to write fiction or poetry. Practice is how we all learn. Now toss your heart after something and go get it.
Well, also, the inscrutable bob Dylan was given a medal too.
I think toni is onto something. What you need to do, the only damn thing, is to get a Voice. A unique one. We on os know you well, so we know what you mean when u write. Others out there, reading/ ? they may or may not…

Ah say less to say more, eh?

Obama said a mouthful!

I shall make it less, to show you how..

“ Toni Morrison's prose brings us that kind of moral and emotional intensity that few writers ever attempt. From ‘Song of Solomon’ to ‘Beloved,’ Toni reaches us deeply, using a tone that is lyrical, precise, distinct, and inclusive. She believes that language arcs toward the place where meaning might lie.”


Or..

“Toni’s tone reaches us deeply. Why? She uses her words creatively to find meaning. Meaning is moral and emotional intensity, and few attempt it.”
Artists have moments of divine inspiration, they write and sometimes that is not appreciated. Sometimes they belch across a page and that is the piece which strikes the interest and respect of others. Less is more, more or less, inspiration or what? Just be and in that being, you inspire. Good work.
Jan Sand has said it better than I could.
Yes. I echo his response.
Rated

And isn't it about time Toni Morrison was honored in this way? I mean really! Time and past time!
One of the best classes I ever took was a philosophy class in college where anything we wrote could not go past one typed page. It really forced me to think about what I wanted to say. Unfortunately, it probably also killed any ability I ever had to write flowery passages.

We all write in our own style. Yours is good.
Jeanette -- that's funny, but I love Dickens. You're in good company.

zanelle -- thank you so much for your really kind comments. I'm working on some new posts -- only in my head right now, but hopefully soon on my blog.

Bo -- you're awfully kind, thank you. It is a blast, isn't it?

jmac -- well, you're right, of course. It still has to be good, right? No matter how long or short, sparse or full. I like your "noise" analogy.

Steel -- you're absolutely right, even for a key-poker :)

JP -- thanks. I love your term "cyber protein." Thanks for the compliment. Like I commented to jmac, "more" or "less" the important thing is "good."

toritto -- thanks much.

Rosalind -- :) thanks

anna1liese -- appreciate your comment and your stopping by.

Rob -- Right on. And write on.

Belinda -- You're so right -- if we can set the hook that's most of it.

Seer -- That is a high compliment and you don't know how much I appreciate that. Gratitude.

KC -- I actually do a lot of technical writing in my job! Glad it shows. And you're so right about the practice. We all get rusty if we don't. Thanks.

James -- thanks. Aren't we all trying to find our Voice? Some have (you), some of us are still looking (me). Do you think Obama wrote that himself or did a speech writer do it all? I'd like to think he at least wrote part of it. But I LOVE how you pared it down. Though you always write about Dylan, I thought maybe you'd do something special for his medal. Yes?

Sheila -- Isn't that just the truth? Thanks for the kind words.

Poor Woman -- Thanks, I agree. And yes, what the hell took so long? Better late than never.
jl -- That actually sounds cool. I think it worked, your writing is tight. Thanks much.
E.B. White once wrote in a letter to a friend: "Sorry this was so long. I didn't have time to make it shorter."
I read this yesterday but didn't have time to comment, so today I came back to say that it just made me happy. The photo of Toni Morrison, the picture of you in your kitchen making pork chops to PBS, the sharing of your doubts and self-criticism (which, of course, all writers experience). So thank you for all of that!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Ed I. Tor loves this post so much he put it on the cover in three different places! :D

Congrats! Your famous (X3!)
Steven -- That's great! Thanks.

Jennifer -- Thanks so much for coming back to comment. :)

SBA -- Well, ain't that some shit!
I like what you and Ms. Morrison have to say about writing. Thanks so much for the link. I would have missed it if not for your post. ~R
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Great reporting. You wrote less here and made it more.
I enjoyed this post very much - Toni Morrison always has such interesting things to say when she's interviewed, and I so respect and understand her not wanting to be put into a particular section of a bookstore based on her race, but just to be with everyone else.

But I was very surprised by the conclusions you've drawn about your own writing. I have read posts from you that have made me think, reflect on life, feel immense emotion for the people you write about, see a huge blaze out of control. The gifts you say you lack, haven't struck me as being lacking.
Willett -- Thanks so much. Glad you like her interview (what's NOT to like?).

Hot Shoe -- Thanks! You light the fire, baby, I'll be there.

Mary -- High compliment, thank you so much.

Alysa -- Thank you, friend. I really appreciate that and all your encouragement. :)