Co-Authored
by
Füsun Atalay & Kit Duncan
Plagiarism has been defined in so many different and subtle ways that it is only natural, especially for a novice writer, to understand exactly what it is, or whether s/he is consciously plagiarizing. Committing plagiarism is a serious act and, despite all the variations of its definitions, it can be avoided by adopting and following a few basic guidelines.
In a handout distributed by the University of North Carolina's Writing Center, plagiarism is defined as "the deliberate or reckless representation of another's words, thoughts, or ideas as one's own without attribution in connection with submission of academic work, whether graded or otherwise."
Most of us who contribute to Open Salon know this. Many also know that, as in every professional field, some ideas are considered to be "common knowledge." But what if you are writing about a topic which you do not know much and are learning as you go along? If you did not know the information before you wrote it then that information was not common knowledge to you. In that case, you must acknowledge the source(s) where you found it.
Sometimes we inadvertently tend to make notes as we go along and then paraphrase someone else's ideas into our own words. Remember that paraphrasing by merely changing a couple of words here and there, or rearranging the sentence structure in your own way, does not save you from plagiarism.
The best way to be sure that you have not infringed on any intellectual property or copyright nor be accused of stealing something that is not your own work is to accredit it at the beginning of your work by stating the source(s) from which it comes, or you were inspired.
Now, a simple Plagiarism 101 such as this hopefully will not be taken as an affrontery to the esteemed writers of Open Salon, who already know and practice the rules. It is not meant for them anyway. This is a general post for anyone who wishes to read and keep for future reference. It is written in the spirit of preventing any future singling out of individuals, or finger pointing to ridicule decent contributors whose contributions are read and enjoyed by many; or create divisions on Open Salon where people come with the hope of finding a heaven for writing and getting constructive feedback, rather than being singled out, kicked around, demanded apologies, and ostracised for them because they are not long enough in word count.
A writer is someone who writes. Period.
A blogger is someone who is writing, using the blog as a forum for posting what he or she has written. Period.
Everyone who blogs on OS is writing. All bloggers on OS are writers. Period.
There are as many different styles of writing as there are individuals who write. Most of us, from time to time, post blogs with typos, grammatical errors, misspellings. Sometimes we post opinions with which others disagree. Sometimes we inadvertently (or perhaps even deliberately) post misinformation. Sometimes we fail to communicate ourselves with the clarity we had hoped.
And sometimes we do not give appropriate credit where credit is due.
Some folks call this plagiarism. Perhaps it is. But there is a world of difference between someone who deliberately passes off someone else’s work as his/her own, and someone who simply doesn’t take the time to include the sources.
When we stumble, either in our writing or in other areas of our life, most of us would prefer to learn rather than mire about in ignorance. Most of us do not learn well when we are getting slapped upside the head, kicked in the gut, called names, or in any way treated in an inhumane manner. Most of us do not learn well when we are publicly reviled or ridiculed.
If we feel we must respond to someone’s postings, let us be humane about it. If they refuse to follow our recommendations, let us be gracious.
When you post blogs or comments, do so with several questions in mind. What would Mom think of me if she read what I wrote? What would my children and grandchildren think of me if they read what I wrote? And finally, what do I think of myself when I read what I wrote?
In conclusion, let us all remember what M Chariot wrote in his stellar post about WRATH:
"Wrath automatically focuses on the most negative interpretation of events; it trades in contempt, sneers at hope. Confronted with innocence, the wrathful respond with sarcasm. Dialogue? Wrath shouts louder so as to drown it out. The wrathful embrace the uncompromising attitude that you "Go Fuck Yourself". Wrath incites mobs and underlines the motivation to pointless - and endless – war."
Peace to all.


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Because this is an excellent piece, well written, and exactly what I would expect from you.
THANK YOU!!
FusunA - thanks for allowing me to be a part of your excellent post. ~r!
Thank you both for shedding light, not heat, and for trying to make something very trying into a teaching moment.
No one wins online fights. State your piece, twice if you have to, then let it lie. Be fierce with your thinking, not with each other.
All of those points stolen from Greg Correll and various pieces of his work. :) See, I learn! Look at me, giving credit.
It's one thing to forget to add" sourced from Wikipedia", or "the Wikipedia site says...," it's another thing entirely to copy whole paragraphs of an article as scanner did, and pass it off as his words.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2173/in-ricky-nelsons-garden-party-who-is-mr-hughes
That was not an "oversight." And he has done it before, on other posts. It's stealing and it is just not right.
Both of you are excellent in my mind here. The voice of reason indeed.
Try http://www.ricknelson.com/bio.htm.
For people that are hung up on the "FACTS" of the matter. And where did the stuff on http://www.ricknelson.com/bio.htm come from? I dunno.
Where are the self appointed fact checker's fact checkers? Missing in action?
scanner fucked up big time with his headline post. as fox said, it DID cross a line.
but so have others.
i don't know how any of the principles in this can stand it any longer. it is all dripping and drowning in sanctimony, there are posts here, posts there, here a post, there a post, everywhere a post post...
i have a stomach ache and i am just an observer. for christ's sake. there are people dying, starving, killing in this world. sometimes you just have to cut bait and move on.
none of you are ever going to have a beer with obama at the whitehouse so live with it, nurse your wounded egos and move the fuck on.
R
Mission
Pilgrim
Kit
She Blogs
Jeanette
Thank you for your open mindedness and understanding the point.
How an innocent, unpaid essay about Ricky Nelson resulted in a shit-flinging dogfight is entirely beyond the understanding of this commentor. I should hope that our most passionate responses might be directed at serious expressions of human malevolence.
Thank you for bringing a little light to the situation.
it was intended for those making post after post after post. it was in support of your premise. they are nursing their egos. i have no dog in this fight, so my ego is not a question here.
delete my comment if you so choose to.
as for my problems, they have nothing to do with this situation.
BTW, did you get written permission to use that stuff from North Carolina? Huh? Huh? ;-|
Other than those two little questions, I thought this was an excellent, enlightening post! (r)
MissingK8
LL2
M. Chariot
trilogy
ClarkK
Thank you for your open mindedness and seeing the point.
I am just here to write and make comments on the good ones. It gets old, these personal attacks.
I try to avoid the bad ones at all cost. This is a great place. I have been here since the get go.
This is one of the most reasonable, well-written, elegant, cohesive posts I've read on my sojourn on OS.
There has, it seems, been some kind of hullabaloo in OS that I thankfully missed because real life got in the way of my reading.
I'm extremely glad what I got to read was your post instead.
And one cannot stress the importance of Monsieur Chariot's post. Thank you also for that.
Both of you, well done.
I have ideas to spare (not all of them good), but if they can't come up with something on their own, then they have a lifetime of dishonesty and plagerism ahead of them! And that's just sad.
A good reminder to those who need to cite!
Therefore, before one accuses others of being bad writers or plagiarists, one should take a deep breath and ask oneself this. Am I qualified to judge other writers? Have I ever wrote an original idea?
Since this is a blog, why doesn't one respect the readers' judgment? And why doesn't one aspire to acquire the kindness and class of bloggers like Fusun...and well, my man, scanner.
Rated for class.
v. seijo
Kind of Blue
K. Manky
nonresidentitalien
xenonlit
Thank you for your open mindedness and understanding the point of this post.
Thank you for this lovely post.
@ incandescent
Good to see you again, my friend.
But, I just want to voice my respect for women of character like Fusun. Your integrity is impressive, Fusun.
Mart's Husband
happygolucky432
Kim Hartman
Emogirl
Amanda
Shiral
incandescent
scanner
fernsy
Thank you for your open mindedness and appreciating the point.
QUOTEMost of us do not learn well when we are getting slapped upside the head, kicked in the gut, called names, or in any way treated in an inhumane manner. Most of us do not learn well when we are publicly reviled or ridiculed.QUOTE
This is a fundamentally dishonest post that pretends NOT to be what it is, an attack on anyone who disagrees with some of the questionable "advice" given here. The quotes above are in no way conciliatory. They are a negative, judgmental perception of what happened. Anyone who disagrees is told that their comments aren't appropriate. I suppose I should be grateful that at least this time, comments were left open.
People, whether they are professional writers or not, do just simply "forget" to cite sources. I have many years of writing, editing and teaching experience that bears that out. In all those years, I can think of exactly ONE case where that was true. If something I write sounds "familiar," I check to make sure that it hasn't unconsciously been taken from something I've read. It's called doing your research/homework. It take a minute or two and it speaks volumes about a person's credibidlity. Anyone who can go to several links for information on what they're writing, can certainly spend time going to ONE link to make sure it's original, or attribute it.
Reliance on Wikipedia for accurate information is highly suspect. I routinely see wrong information on Wikipedia. I follow the old rule, and I teach it to my students as well, that if I see something on Wikipedia, it must be corroborated twice on reputable sites before it can be used. Wikipedia is only as accurate as the people who post there, and there are countless inaccuracies and biased information posted every day.
Essentially, this post is saying plagiarism is wrong unless someone we like does it. If we like them, then it's OK and as the quotes above indicate, it is fair to blame those who point it out rather than the person/people who's doing it. I've caught a lot of people plagiarizing at OS and usually I just ignore it. You would be very surprised at some people here who do it regularly, and do it KNOWINGLY. Trust me, PMing them about it hasn't stopped them from doing it, and I don't even bother pointing it out any more. As someone who writes/edit/teaches for a living, it is very easy for me to tell when a writer doesn't sound like themselves in a post -- and nearly every time that happens, they've plagiarized and not linked to it.
But I guess that's fine and dandy for the people who are supporting this post and others slamming those who don't think it is OK. I might have taken this post seriously if those attacks weren't made here, but they were. I refuse to be blamed, or to stand by and watch others be blamed, for calling out cheating when they see it. Because that is what it is no matter how you try to spin it. And I will never condone cheating. It lowers the bar for everyone, and it's one reason I don't take OS seriously as a writers' site any more.
I saw this before when you didn't like someone's behavior and I don't remember anyone making you the arbiter of conduct around here. Now, with that said, I've done the same thing.
I believe there are times when we are simply human - get mad - get passionate - get sad - get joyful - it's all part of being human. If we can't take that on a blogging site, how do we handle ourselves in the real world? Whose to say those things are 'bad'? And, when? That's a moving target if I've ever heard it.
All this judging of eachother's character, rather than a person's singular action or actions, is beginning to get a little unnerving for me. Someone can do something I think unwise, but I would never consider them a 'bad person' from one or two or five actions. If I did, I would be judging myself in the process as I am sure there was a time in history which I likely did the same thing or a time in the future where I may stumble the same way.
I am tired of seeing 'sides' around OS and see this post as another way to entrench that as much as you say otherwise. Writers are leaving over this and that makes me sad. I wish every single one of these posts came down - it would give me a little more hope for humanity.
I came here to see my friends today, see what they had written as a bit of relief from my personal circumstances, and this all flat out sucks. That's all I have to say on the subject. Best to everyone and thank you in advance for allowing me the space to extend my comments beyond the scope of your post.
Check it out. http://www.dustball.com/cs/plagiarism.checker/
I have no problem - I am merely stating my opinion as to how I read this as I know she also was calling people out on another post here (Julie Tarp) by saying their is a 'goon squad' and lecturing as to how 'we' should behave in defense of a friend of hers (who is also my friend). They are all my friends - including Fusun. I don't always agree with my friends, and that's okay.
As soon as I see someone making 'rules' for OS, I will find someone willing to break them. That's how we get the little dictators and 'sides' stuff going on. I hope for the best, be prepared for the worst, and understand when people are human. There are no clean hands here, including my own.
In terms of plagiarism, I find no excuse for it. However, today I have seen so many definitions and 'exceptions' for it, I don't know what to think any more. Okay, I'm done. Really. :)
But I'm also distressed at the vehemence of some of the comments on OS. Criticism does not have to include disrespect.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2173/in-ricky-nelsons-garden-party-who-is-mr-hughes
it is a shame we can't all be kinder.
Gwool
ranting boomer
Pavanne
sefarer
Cranky Cuss
bstrangely
Eric Lightborn
Bobbot
High Lonesome
Thank you for dropping by and understanding the essential message of this post.
@ Emma Peel- I am not about to reiterate a point that has already been made and understood by many here: This post does not condone plagiarism, nor does it stand up for anyone who has committed it. It was written to shed a light on what it is, but more so to emphasize how we should remember that we are human beings with feelings- and when we see one among us to have committed a "cardinal" sin of writing, we should approach him/her with kindness to teach and inform, rather than create the unfortunate spectacle and mockery that took place yesterday.
** This post has no bias, and is not dishonest, because we say so and we stand by our word and our reputation.**
Apparently, pointing out with facts that someone has plagiarized at OS, more than once, is bad. But someone who falsely accuses another poster of plagiarizing an entire screenplay is good? Sorry, I will never condone plagiarism no matter who is doing it, friend, foe, or complete stranger. THAT is what this particular battle is about, which seems to have been forgotten in the rush to kill the messengers. Some things are worth fighting for, and against, and if certain people don't like it, or choose to be hypocrites, that is their right. I will always stand up for what I believe, especially when it demeans the profession of writing I have been proud to call my own most of my life.
FA and KD
i am completely disappointed. where is this respect you claim you value so highly?