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I divorced my full time career of teaching after 25 years, because meanwhile I fell in love with freelance writing. Ever since, I decided to legitimize my ten-year fling which started in the new millennium. Author of: "WILL OF MY OWN - A Memoir" Available at all major book outlets. For a preview please visit: http://www.dictionmatters.com/

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MARCH 2, 2011 1:49AM

Phœbus and Boreas

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                                                                                                       Jean de La Fontaine

I grew up on proverbs and fables. Thanks to Babacim, my sisters' and my world was filled with tales and names such as Nasreddin Hodja, La Fontaine and Aesop from a very young age. The morals we extricated from those sometimes amusing, sometimes cautionary tales comprised a strong part of our life lessons. Babacim taught us when we didn't even realize we were learning – and that kind of learning stays with the learner a lifetime.

One of the stories I remember distinctly and know that has shaped my outlook on how I deal with people is the one of the North Wind and the Sun. This is how it goes:

     the north wind wind

One day the Wind and the Sun were debating which one was stronger. Then they saw a traveler walking down the road. The Sun said: "I know how we can decide our dispute. Whichever of us can cause that traveler to take off his coat shall be regarded as the stronger. You begin."

So the Sun retired behind a cloud, and the Wind began to blow upon the traveler as hard as it could. He huffed and howled and filled his cheeks with air that he forced in gusts upon the unsuspecting man. Yet the harder he blew, the more tightly did the traveler wrap his coat round him, pulled up his collar around his face and shielded his face with an elbow. Exhausted and unsuccessful, the Wind had to give up in despair.

Then the Sun came out and shone in all his glory upon the traveler. The clouds took a break and birds began to sing. Soon the traveler found it too hot to walk with his coat and took it off.

                the sun    sun

After listening to him, Babacim would ask us what we got out of the story, what it meant to each of us – and we would discuss our thoughts. My sisters and I learned from this, that we could attain our purpose with kind persuasion than tantrums or bullying.

I followed this Socratic approach in my teaching career as well, while looked further into the origins of a fable I had first heard in Turkish as a child. While I was searching information on Aesop and LaFontaine, I learned a lot more in the process. Just like the far reaching implications of its moral, the simple story of the North Wind and the Sun has touched the imaginations of many through history.

The earliest version of the fable is traced to Avianus, a 5th century pagan and Latin writer of fable, who named it De Vento et SoleOf the Wind and the Sun. While these Victorian versions offer 'Persuasion is better than force' as the moral, Aphra Behn, in the Barlow edition of 1667, pursues the Stoic lesson advocating moderation in everything:

'In every passion moderation choose,

For all extremes do bad effects produce,'

The interpretation of this short fable did not stop there. 18th century, German philosopher, poet, theologian, and literary critic Johann Gottfried von Herder (1744-1803)  kept the same title when he penned the fable into a German poem in which he offers his theological conclusion:

'Superior force leaves us cold,

Warm Christian love dispels that'

                                                                                                 (Gedichte V.4).[4]

A late Nineteenth century psychological interpretation in the Walter Crane limerick edition of 1887 offered a psychological interpretation, 'True strength is not bluster'.

I found as a grown woman that although many of these examples draw a moral lesson, it was La Fontaine's hint at the political application that is also present also in Avianus' conclusion: 'They cannot win who start with threats'.

There is evidence that this reading has had an unequivocal influence on the diplomacy of modern history – namely the South Korea's Sunshine Policy. The Sunshine Policy was the foreign policy of South Korea towards North Korea until 2008, when Lee Myung-bak was elected to presidency. It resulted in greater political contact between the two nations since its articulation in 1998 by Kim Dae Jung, South Korean President, who was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2000 as a result of this policy.

I believe fables are pearls of wisdom we need to remember and follow more often in our daily lives.  Underneath their simple characters and brief story lines lie a wealth of nuance which would make much better nations and citizens of us. 

 

                  Phœbus and Boreas                      

 Jean de La Fontaine

Old Boreas and the sun, one day

Espied a traveller on his way,

Whose dress did happily provide

Against whatever might betide.

The time was autumn, when, indeed,

All prudent travellers take heed.

The rains that then the sunshine dash,

And Iris with her splendid sash,

Warn one who does not like to soak

To wear abroad a good thick cloak.

Our man was therefore well bedight

With double mantle, strong and tight.

"This fellow," said the wind, "has meant

To guard from every ill event;

But little does he wot that I

Can blow him such a blast

That, not a button fast,

His cloak shall cleave the sky.

Come, here's a pleasant game, Sir Sun!

Wilt play?"

 

Said Phœbus, "Done!

We'll bet between us here

Which first will take the gear

From off this cavalier.

Begin, and shut away

The brightness of my ray."

 

"Enough." Our blower, on the bet,

Swell'd out his pursy form

With all the stuff for storm --

The thunder, hail, and drenching wet,

And all the fury he could muster;

Then, with a very demon's bluster,

He whistled, whirl'd, and splash'd,

And down the torrents dash'd,

Full many a roof uptearing

He never did before,

Full many a vessel bearing

To wreck upon the shore, --

And all to doff a single cloak.

But vain the furious stroke;

The traveller was stout,

And kept the tempest out,

Defied the hurricane,

Defied the pelting rain ;

And as the fiercer roar'd the blast,

His cloak the tighter held he fast.

 

The sun broke out, to win the bet;

He caused the clouds to disappear,

Befresh'd and warm'd the cavalier,

And through his mantle made him sweat,

Till off it came, of course,

In less than half an hour;

And yet the sun saved half his power. --

So much doth mildness more than force.

~*~*~*~*~

Source: Jean de La Fontaine, The Fables of La Fontaine, translated from the French by Elizur Wright (London: George Bell and Sons, 1888), book 6, fable 3, pp. 123-24.

 

Füsun Atalay ~ Copyright © Will of my Own - 2011

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Let gentleness thine strong enforcement be.
Anyone who speaks in a calm, pleasant tone of voice will get farther with me, and is more likely to have their words heard by me than a person who tries to make their point by getting in my face and shouting. (I've never met anyone who appreciates that.)

And I perfer warm, calm people to windbags any day. =o)
Love learning about these things that have vague understanding with me.Thanks again.
Thank you for this wise and fascinating post, Fusun. I love that I always learn something from you - and today not only was it the origin and interpretations of a great fable - but also a reminder of this fable's lesson, which can all too easily be forgotten.
Lovely, Fusun... I see you've taken the challenge out of the kitchen this week... to give us a recipe for life.
Wise advice from a wise, kind-hearted gal. Thanks, Fusie.

Good research, BTW.
I believe that the fable, and the person telling it, stand at the center of all learning of our most important lessons. Thanks for this.
my grandmother used to say: You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. I confess, however, that my teaching strategy with High School kids is often a blend of sunshine and bluster applied forcefully when either is needed. Such a lovely post. I could listen to these all day long...especially today. so well done, Fusun! xo r
beautifully-written r.
In a blustery world where hot air abounds, its nice to feel a gentle breeze!! rated!
Ah the purr of this roars, thanks for a wonderful lesson. I wish the leaders of the world would revisit their earlier lessons once in a while.
I enjoyed this. The fable is one that I once knew but hadn't thought of in some time. Thank you- this is the first thing I read this morning- what a positive start to my day! *R*
Wonderful posts and parables. I am a seeker of the sun, it is always there to remind us of universal love.
rated with love and gentleness.
"All you need is love"
Great piece and I bow to you ma cher.
rated with hugs
I forgot to say that the picture reminded me of Parc la Fontaine a Montreal. I still remember the whale.
Preaching to the choir, my friend. The ability to respond to unkindness, anger, rudeness, etc. with firm warmth is a position of true strength. As is understanding and acceptance of our vulnerability. Men and women both, exquisitely vulnerable. A puffed up blustery shrill voice does not create strength.
Recently, I was reading the comments to a post here. The first person posted her disagreement calmly and without rancor. The second person posted his disagreement by beginning, "You're an idiot." Guess which comment I read all the way through and which one I ignored?

The moral of the fable is a wise one.
Fusun, of the many fables this is also one that I think of the most and it is a fable that continues to have much relevance today. Lots of wise advice in so many of those old fables and they are worth re-reading on occasion. Thanks for posting about this wonderful one!
Linda: The blue whale at La Fontaine Parc - My son and daughter used to inside it when they were little!

Greenheron: Unfortunately there are those who still believe we - especially women - need to be loud and shrill to be heard and recognized. But I doubt my message will reach or mean anything to them.
People should know that the quieter the voice, the more someone will listen. Lovely post written with wisdom. -R-
This is so important, and so artfully told. Metaphor, fables and parables teach us in a way that mere words insisting we do this or that cannot. It's a method that speaks to the humanity that resides in us, to a greater or lesser degree, and perhaps increases our social comity.

Thank you.
"You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar" is the version of this message i was taught as a child. Unfortunately,a bully's objective is not to get the target to listen; it is to frighten and/or coerce. However, I have noticed that refusing to rise to the bait, in many cases, disarms the Internet bully.

Lovely fable, Fusun. I'd never heard it before.

Lezlie
I once had a co-worker who would get upset, rant, rave, shout--and all anyone remembered was that she was out of control. Trouble was, she had a valid point to make. So next meeting, I helped "coach" her to make her point quietly..so quietly people were even leaning in to hear better. You could have heard a pin drop. Then when she was done, instead of storming out, she stood and met them eye to eye. She won the day. Thanks for reminding us that there is strength that does not have to be accessed by force.
I still like to hiss at people and run into the thorn bushes!! :D

Rated.
A lovely post. I remember a teacher in elementary school reading a version of this. ~r
I vote for the sun right now. Snowing again. R
We always learn from you; your cultural experiences fascinate and instruct. The lessons here are, nonetheless, universal.
I'm not sure I take the same moral. Why do we conclude that the sun was being nice or kind? The sun was being hot - that's what suns do. If anything, I might say that the moral is that if you want someone to do something, manipulation beats force.
"Artfully told" as bbd says. And timely in this world full of tantrums. R
Beautifully written post. This reminds me of Robert Fulghum's book "All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten." So much truth there.
Koshersalaami : You may say potato and I, potatoe - no difference - it's the same concept.
There is much wisdom in this--and it has been true in my own experience.
I remember reading this as a child. The wind vs. the sun and the sun won. I agree with the moral. It's a lot easier to catch a fly with honey than vinegar.
A wonderful story, Fusun, and timely...xox
Is there an OS lesson here?
tr ig : Are you asking a rhetorical question?
rhetorical? will look it up and be right back : )
Good lesson. I went to Victoria's blog and whatever was up there that she asked us to look at is now gone. Not sure what prompted all this then, as you mention it in your PM, but this kind of lesson is always good and helps people understand how they need to be in life. Thank you for your work here.
Sheila: I was working on this post before what happened. The case made me think how the moral of the fable is relevant to our day-to-day lives, thus I decided to include "bullying" in my author tags. I also sent a PM to Victoria last night to avoid such people and move on.
Well proffered.

Wind and Sun. Fury and Sound. War and Peace.

But gentle persuasion can fail. We must be willing to walk away when the answer to our request is "no" (turning another kind of cheek).

Always?

How much nay-saying towards justice do we bear? Would you use force to stop genocide? Stop criminals? Are there not prisons? Stop bullying? Are there not Columbine High Schools?

Nothing is more difficult than the seven virtues, sine qua non.

At least give peace a chance...


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I took the Sun minus the points because of the home field advantage.
Your tags say a lot.
I grew up hearing this fable from my dad. How nice to be reminded of it again, Fusun.
There is much truth to this story and it applies to many different circumstances. From my perspective, as bi-racial African American who grew up on the frontlines of the integration battles of the 1960s, I have seen and endured the casual disrespect of White people to this very day who subscribe to the moral of this story and consider themselves to be progressive. I also am aware of how often the moral is used to stigmatize the emotional response of people like myself when we are subjected to the prerogatives and entitlements of "white privilege" in our interpersonal interactions, including casual forms of disrespect that aren't even acknowledged as such because of implicit biases and conditioning that go along with that "privilege." I highly recommend checking out the great Tim Wise on this subject matter: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/archive/201008/20100812.html

I ask the following question of the OS community: How many really close African American male (or Black female) friends do you have in your life now? Ask them about what it feels like to be casually disrespected by White people, have their reactions to the disrespect stigmatized, and their feelings of being disrespected dismissed out of hand. They just might also have a more nuanced interpretation of the implications of this fable than might first meet the eye. Rated.
Abby : You've been reading between the lines again, haven't you?
Ron Robinson: Thank you for a very thoughtful comment. I'll check your link as I hope will others. I pose an evocative question from a perspective which may/has been overlooked. I appreciate this kind of input.
Bullies are cowards. They're afraid of people who stand up to them because it is then that their bullyisms can be defeated. It is then that their flufferies doesn't work. When one person exposes a bully, the bully will continue to victimize his counterpart by extrapolating his persona onto the victim.
This is excellent! I absolutely love it. Great writing and interesting history--plus the moral is one that we all would do well to remember.
Thanks for the invitation. Very interesting.
This has long been my philosophy. When forced there is always resistance and resentment. When explained and cushioned, an idea may gain traction. On the other hand, the North wind must be pretty dumb, I've never taken off my coat because the wind was blowing too hard.
My motto is - the first person to lose their temper, loses. If one person is rational and calm and the other is screaming and shouting and carrying on - my guess is the calmer one might have the more compelling argument. Additionally, fables do teach a lot, if you've got the mind to learn. Beautiful post -
r
human interaction on any level need not devolve. who's right? who's wrong? I like rivers, they have two sides and continue flowing except in drought.
Kate and Bobbot : Maybe that's why the wind "dies down", but the sun "rises".
Nice rad Fusun. / R
This was not only a fun romp but a total justification of my world view. Thank you for posting this and in the name of all centrist moderates everywhere, bless you!

BTW you WILL reveal the secret of that cute little heart to me at once! Errrr.....if you would be so kind as to share the love, we would all be better for it. ;)
Outstanding, Fusun! My mother used to say to me, "You catch more bees with honey than vinegar." Love that and remember it often. She instilled the gentler side of things into my psyche and it is a comfortable place to be. Loved this post!
Fusun, I remember reading this fable to my daughter and she drew a great picture of it. The sun was wearing sunglasses and the weary, hot traveller was basking in its rays.
FusunA you are such an inspiration to me. This is a beautiful children's story that I shall share with my children tonight.
You are a voice of reason for so many things, thank you.
Sometimes the greatest wisdom can be found in fables and children's tales. It was fascinating to see this one's influence through through the ages.
Alas, many (too many) political leaders base their policies on fables of trolls that eat little children.
This was a charmingly full post. Sweetness has always worked for me everywhere.
Speak softly but carry a big stick?

As a general proposition of the virtues of non-violence over violence it is a worthwhile parable.

However there may be problems when the fable is looked at in its full extension, as alluded to by some of your commenters. Inasmuch as the premeditated use of non-violent means for the cunning purpose of "manipulation", towards a certain desired end (as expressed in the saying "the ends justify the means"), perhaps unearned or unmerited, would indeed call into question the ethical nature of this fable.
Interrobang: You bring up a good point. I've questioned the implication of " the premeditated use of non-violent means for the cunning purpose of "manipulation", towards a certain desired end ..." and how unethical that would be, even though the motive may show soon. Just like the wolf dressesed as grandmother in Little Red Riding Hood. That is why one should view fables as a lesson.

Thank you for your valuable comments.
I knew a few governors who need to re-learn the fable of the North Wind and the Sun!
Thanks for returning La Fontaine to my attention. It's been yeas since I read him in college French.
We are pawns in the games of gods and nature.
Thanks for the chance to revisit a story from my early years!
Impressive! (We need many more teachers like you.)
It goes to show that if you speak in a pleasent manor with compassion, you will go far. If you are critical and cruel you will end up feeling empty and alone. One should treat others as they would want to be treated
Tremendous post! I am glad it was so well received too.
Hi everyone a msg from an Indian Hindu living in India that Victoria recently maligned and ferociously attacked :
She took down her posts bec 1) there were heaps of ERRORS regarding my religion and my country and a very very famous leader sha had posted on (e.g. a video featured a trashy Bollywood number in the bkground with Hindu Symbols - wherein she wrote there are 3 Vedas, - actually there are FOUR; that the third eye is a point on one's forehead, actually it is the perspective of BODHA, that transcends reason and intellect; that Bindi or Tika we Hindus use are a symbol of CLASS, actually it simple represents the THIRD EYE ; then that only married women wear bindis , False again, everyone can wear Bindi or the Dot on the forehead, even Hindu men wear it bec it symbolises the Third eye for us ; then there were things about Shiva, and in another post the Title screamed something like "India is Racist" Help Her and in another All Indian husbands sell of their wives etc etc etc ) Everytime I tried to post corrections politely she wd take down the post.

So I posted Indian Legacy for her when I heard that she was planning to 'publish' and that she is a 'research scholar'. Invited her to look at it. I used 10 pointers thinking as researcher she wd connect the dots - but she merely Google SOME of the facts but still didnt get it that India is a very veryu special country that successfully resisted the US and USSR during COld War and had with Indonesia formed a THIRD Coalition!!!

Well - I have posted again yesterday - along with phone numbers of Vedanta Societies in the US, and links and I began with writing abtone of the most influential thinkers and reformers of pre Independence India that had for the first time Presented Hinduism to your country in the Sep 11 1893 Chicago World Convention of Religions. I have been around here sometime now and have a set of friends who know me, my blogs are there too for you to see who I am, then I was gone for a year only to come back once in a while to check on a very dear bipolar friend of mine - in fact it is at his behest I went to her blog in the first place

Bec these people are India enthusiasts that had wanted me to see what she was writing .... I noticed BASIC FACTUAL errors and I commented thats it

So at first she asks me not to visit her blog, later mails me a strange mail asking me a favour - and what was this great big favour ? To post her info about CRIMINAL RECORDS of VICTORIAN PROSTITUTES!!! First of all during Victoria India was under British rule , she was being raoed and burned - wd the British themselves keep police records of their own prostitutes?

secondly, why me?? In what am I connected with Victorian Prostitution? I was talking about MY RELIGION and the fact that she was calling Vedas = Scriptures (they are not - VEDAS are repository of Indian laws, learning , theories, theology, findings, scientific principles etc )

So I ask her : what exactly is her interest? India and Sex? In which case she shd look up Oshoites or some such sect that practice these things - O and that too bec she made an error of referring to ananda margis as Hindu Symbol in that Video, Anando Margis are a banned sect with allegations of murder and kidnap pending on them here in India!!!!

Anyways, I posted her mail on her blog and asked people to help her bec I said sorry I dont know : she got angry and took down her own post and started distributing hate mails against me to all MY friends some of whom got back to me and I guess ALSO TRIED TO DEFEND ME.

Then she went and fought with them. And took down that post too - so now theres no PROOF excpt the copies I had made so I cd do a post later and I wd

I hate writing but since a lot of people were fed with misinfo about my country and my religion I feel it is my duty to write.


English is only my third language but I am smart enough to know snides when I see them. And even though I know more about the American people, its hidtory culture lit, music, politics , burning issues than she did abt my country, I have never preseumed to write abt America EVER, I come her mainly to read you guys and listen and watch and make friends bec I love people. We have enough problems in our own country and women are repressed as it is - dont come here to make war on hapless poor ladies that happen to be interested in my country.

I think she had meant to write about CASTE system but got mixed up and had written RACIST. If you know your History, you wd see ecven tho India existed hundreds of years bef Christ was even born or America came into existence, it has never ever tried to discriminate on grounds of skin color. Or ethnicity.

Thank you very much. I really really feel extremely bad about the way she behaved. When you write about a foreign country - at least get your facts straight!!!! For God's sake and all of you went and commented on those posts and nobody noticed the errors simply bec you didn't know!!! You ah-d and rated and came away pleased and I don't blame you.

As for gentleness no other community in the world is gentler than Indians I think - even tho we are a third world country, if you go to your own CIA website etc you wd see that the crime rate in India and esply my city is lower than US, Canada and France, Germany, England - you didnt know that now? Did you? Thats what I meant. Thx.

Rolling
what prompted that torrential comment? this:


Good lesson. I went to Victoria's blog and whatever was up there that she asked us to look at is now gone. Not sure what prompted all this then, as you mention it in your PM, but this kind of lesson is always good and helps people understand how they need to be in life. Thank you for your work here.

SheilaTGTG55

Sheila: I was working on this post before what happened. The case made me think how the moral of the fable is relevant to our day-to-day lives, thus I decided to include "bullying" in my author tags. I also sent a PM to Victoria last night to avoid such people and move on.

FusunA


PS: I dont see how posting your own letter on your blog is "bullying" you unless you didnot want other people to see that letter and there was something in it that you were ashamed of? And how is that "attcking your children" too? ?? I never write mails that am ashamed of or posts that I have to take down.
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