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APRIL 18, 2009 1:56PM

On non-monogamy

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The first time a friend of mine told me that she and her husband had an open relationship, I was outwardly interested and supportive.  Inside, however, I was shocked and repulsed.  How could they do that?  How could anyone say they loved someone and then go sleep with someone else?  Wasn't it just cheating? 

Years later, I would sort of cheat on my husband; we had discussed my feelings for another man, and certain things (such as kissing him) were absolutely fine.  Good idea in theory, no?  What wasn't okay was me abandoning my husband for the other guy (who had a long-distance girlfriend - what a mess!)  Which is exactly what happened.  It was a terrible time, but I believe that my marriage is all the stronger for it.  We went to a couples' therapist, but her scant knowledge of and attitude toward non-mongamy began to grate:

"So you're swingers?"

"No," I tried to explain patiently, yet again.  "We're not swingers; swingers are people who go to parties and social occasions for the express purpose of having sex with other people, but don't usually get emotionally involved.  We are here talking to you because we tried to have a non-mongamous relationship and it caused problems within our marriage because I didn't hold up my end of the agreement."

Sound a bit pedantic?  I suppose it was, but I'd been reading a lot, and don't think that all non-mongamy can or should be lumped together.  She just wasn't very bright, and never quite seemed to get it.

So we go on from here; so we try to figure out what's going to work for us as a couple, and what isn't.  But sometimes it's difficult, disappointing, frustrating.  Consensual non-monogamy has happened since time out if mind, but it's not exactly socially acceptable.  I can't tell my parents that I love more than one person; they actually seem to believe that gay marriage being legalized will cause the downfall of the (Christian Right idea of) the institution of marriage, and that it will lead to Mormon splinter sects being able to marry twelve-year-olds off to men old enough to be their grandfathers.  On the other end of that spectrum, one of my best friends and his partner of many years were very vocally shocked and a bit horrified when I told them about my ideas on the subject.  I fully support their right to marry and will be delighted when they can do so; I'd just like to be extended the same courtesy.   

I've also been a bit annoyed to have been propositioned quite a few times recently, by a few different people, who want me to be complicit in them cheating on their significant others.  This bothers me because I work hard at having an honest relationship with my husband; if all parties involved are not going to know what's going on, I don't want to do it. 

(That is partly the truth.  I want to, of course I do.  I'm human.  But I don't feel that I should.) 

This isn't an easy thing to talk about.  I just worked up the courage to tell my sister a little while ago; luckily, she is understanding and supportive.  Some of our closest friends are aware of the nature of our relationship, but not necessaily the details.   I was talking to one about dating, specifically dating sites, last night.  He said he didn't like the idea of them. "It just seems so artificial - I've always just dated people I hung out with, became friends with." 

Which is exactly how I feel, and I would much prefer it happened that way for me too...but as I told him, my situation is very different.  "I'm married, first and foremost.  Non-monogamous, yes, and with my husband's consent and support, but so many people are extremely uncomfortable with that.  And I feel like...people have to know that up front, before anything else happens.  I can't get to know someone and fall for them and then tell them, hey, I want to date you...can I?  I don't think so."

It certainly didn't help that I have done exactly that with him.  He knows me, knows about our marriage, we're close, and he's sweet and caring and affectionate.  We say "I love you," and mean it.  I wish that I could express that to him as I would anyone I were in love with, but I cannot take any steps to change things in any way.  I'm paralyzed by what he would think of me, what society probably thinks of me, how our dear friendship might change for the worse.  It's disheartening, but I suppose it's better to keep things the way they are. 

I read something earlier today (and this isn't the first time I've heard this) stating that people in non-monogamous relationships are stupid, deluded, foolish.  All I can say to that is that there are good and bad relationships of every type.  I believe that some people are well-suited to monogamous relationships and can make them work. I believe the same thing of non-monogamous relationships. I try to respect peoples' choices, either way, as long as they are honest and forthcoming with themselves and others.

 I don't care if you don't agree with the way I live my life, and I don't want to hear that I'm an idiot or fooling myself either.  

  

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Just banged this out. Hardly edited. Probably all over the place.
Actually, I am thrilled to see this spoken of in such a calm and frank way. It happens more than people know, for a wide variety of reasons.

Very brave, and loving.
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You are not an idiot and you are not fooling yourself. You are you. And you are very cool.
Madame Sand,

If I've learned anything in the first half of my life, it's that the human heart is a tangle with far more room in it than we have allowed for as a society. The men I have loved all still have a room there, and I would be a fool to pretend there are no vacancies still there. The messes this can cause are as old as time, intractable and more or less inevitable, if only in one's interior life.

Brave post. Rated.
You live (and write) with a brutal honesty that many other people only think about. Rated for bravery and honesty.
as usual VR beat me to it, but I concur...brave post
Monogamy is a way of relating that has a long and beautiful history, and which is integral to maintaining the kind of society we have constructed. It is a form of human relationship that is to be respected and cherished.
That being said, I also believe that monogamy is not the only game in town. There are other forms of loving and relating and finding sexual adventure that have very little to do with monogamy. These other forms have a long human history, but may not be as valued by society because they play a smaller role in the creation and maintenance of society, per se. They are more relevant to the individual - individual exploration, dreams, excitement and adventure. Problems develop when we give lip service to or wish to effect a façade of monogamy, when we are actually more inclined to explore other forms of human relating.
We are complicated creatures. Verbal Remedy and M. Chariot have spoken so well that I have little to add but to second their thoughts.
My friend Bob, calls himself polyamorous and he lives with John and Ramone. They live together and if they could be married they would be married - they have a commitment. I'm glad you have a supportive sister - I know how much that counts when you have rigid parents. As long as this does not affect the health of your marriage, and you aren't hurting yourself or your husband or anyone else you get involved with, then this is no one's business but yours and the people involved with you. I do admit that if I was married I would want a reciprocally monogamous marriage but I have never been married and do not have marriage experience or wisdom to impart or base my desire on - and I am not you and certainly have no right to pass judgment on you for your life choices - anyone who does is mean spirited and needs to be more mindful of themselves and how human we all are.
"Happiness is the china shop. Love is the bull." --H.L. Mencken

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I would say that a fool is someone who kids not only others, but themselves. A fool is someone who is not willing to be honest, accountable and congruent. As someone who works with couples, I will say that it is the rare couple who can be as open and honest as you have dared to be. I've often felt that if I was a more evolved human being, I would be able to be more like you. I love my husband and I'm also a bit possessive which is in and of itself not loving at all. I can't stand the thought of him being with someone else. But I don't think that represents something good about me. It stems out of a place of insecurity. Most people it seems are like me. Statistically, non-monogamous relationships aren't as "successful" as monogamous relationships (unless many of them are closeted and not available for statistical analysis). The reason for this may be that it is simply very challenging for most people to allow their spouse to be in other relationships. My biggest question to those in non-monogamous relationships, especially if there are children involved, is where do you find the time and energy? It's challenging enough to be in relationship with just one person, it's hard to imagine juggling more than that. I also believe that there is great reward in being with just one person and discovering the treasures of intimacy that come forth. "To each his own" applies here and having the wisdom to discern who can respect that and who can't in order to protect oneself from criticism or social outcasting is critical. Of course if one loves to be a rebel, then the development of a thick skin is most helpful. Excellent brave honest post. Thank you.
consider yourself very lucky. if all you suffer is social taboos and some stigma, thats not so much. not much more than is suffered by gays. actually, I think theres some insight there. gayness is much more accepted socially, but nonmonogamy is not. in fact it seems many gays are quite prejudiced against nonmonogamy.

reminds me of a bi gf I had many years ago. rather in a snit about her own identity. probably a bit BIpolar!! she said something like, "the gays dont think Im gay enough and the straights dont think Im straight enough".

am thinking of writing on the same subject. a good subject to write anonymously or pseudonymously. to match the lifestyle. must remain under the radar.

if you spouse is willing to consider "allowing" you polyamory, consider yourself very lucky. I told my wife of 6 years when we 1st met my feelings along these lines on our 1st date. she was not exactly prejudiced against the ideas of polyamory, but was strongly & forcefully disinclined. in 6 years I have not been able to change her opinion on it and we sometimes get into fights on the subject. its a flashpoint, a 3rd rail. so I had to make a choice what sometimes seems like an eternity ago. ouch. it hurts sometimes.
I have been in both non and monogamous relationships. My level of commitment and honesty was the same in both. I was no more or less in love relative to one or the other choices and neither form seemed to enhance the intimacy or commitment in any noticeable way. Neither seemed more considerate or loving. Not having a preference I have always let the other person decide so I guess I would be considered open but neutral. Rules in relationships are about making your situation work so if you are happy go ahead and do it.
Buffy - thank you. Not sure I'd have been able to be calm about it a while ago, but I've been turning this over in my mind for some time now...

wakingupslowly...thank you!

Verbal - I love you description of the human heart. Many thanks.
Cartouche - I don't tend to think of myself as brave, so thank you.

Brian B. - thanks to you too!

Monsieur Chariot - I believe that both monogamy and nonmonogamy have long, rich histories - just like most human behaviors. Some societies have tilted toward monogamy, some haven't...it's a fascinating subject, to me. Thanks for reading!
Ablonde - many thanks.

WalkAwayHappy - our marriage has never been stronger, and we've never been more honest with each other. We're not actively pursuing anything at the moment, more taking time to figure out what we want and how to go about getting it. The open communication and transparency is a wonderful thing.
incandescent: so many thanks. I can't begin to explain how delighted it makes me that you've found happiness in an unconventional situation. Gives me hope...

Leonde: thank you for your open-mindedness.

Helen: too true, sometimes. Thanks for reading!
marytkelly - thank you so much. As for your question...right now we're taking some time to figure out what we want, ground rules, etc. No children, so I'm not sure about that, but I do know at least one couple in that situation who seems to do just fine.

Tijo - what a sensible way to look at at. Thank you.
I've been single quite a while, yet I agree with you. I think most humans are essentially non-monogamous. I think monogamy is a social structure which is economically and politically based--if truth were told, a tribe or village of people, grandparents included, would be best for raising children, but monogamy has been touted as the best solution for child rearing. I totally disagree. I also disagree that people can make a successful love relationship last without a desire, a need and a want to engage with other consenting adults. I am glad you exposed this--however, I have a feeling our culture will be a long time in accepting that the biological drives of many adults follow this trend, even though I think they do.
Poet - I agree. This definitely won't be widely accepted in our society anytime soon, if ever.

What really rubs me the wrong way: people being "okay" with cheating, but not with consensual non-monogamy.
I echo what others have said about your unwavering honesty. Truly remarkable! ... Years ago, a friend of mine was telling me about a particularly nasty lover's triangle in which he was involved. His anguish was palpable, and I wanted to say something helpful to my dear friend. All I could dig out was, "You can't help what you feel." He has never forgotten it. Neither have I.
incandescent - meant to thank you earlier for your well-thought-out comment!

Jess - thank you. I so often feel that I'm...well...dishonest by omission? (Damn Catholic school anyway!) I feel like I have to hide an essential part of myself from most people; it's good to be able to write about it here.