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Greg Correll

Greg Correll
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JULY 2, 2009 12:14PM

wise achers (OS honesty. at last.)

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From time to time I see pieces on OS that "just happen" to hark back to previous posts (with links), even some that are thinly disguised attempts to get people to go back and read some brilliant thing that got a measly 6 ratings, and only 5 comments, from our dear ones.

You know, our Best Pieces.

This is one of those. Um, not Best, but thinly disguised. I rip the mask off here.

I wonder, we all do, just what our rep is. I notice my pieces often fall into two categories: wisdom work, as I call it, and aching hard-to-read memory pieces. I worry this has become my cul-de-sac, my ghetto, to some, that many think: "oh that's another one of THOSE from Greg; those are good, but I don't feel like poetic brilliance (sic) about mortality today; I wonder what con or sheldon or tequila posted?"

Or perhaps this: "oh my, great title, sounds like another searing, devastating memory piece from him, I should read that -- oh look Sandra has posted, I LOVE her writing! (click)"

Fair enough, there's no reason...no. wait. This here, on OS, this, altogether, is my magnum corpus dialecti cum loudly, goddamnit! (besides my plays, that is). It cannot, must not be overlooked! I am really thinking of you, dear but inconstant reader: when the day surely comes and grad students are carving out whole careers about the arc of my development, they will condescend to you guys, wondering why so many of you failed to see the Carver/Joyce/Naipaul a-borning here. Um...yeah.

Sigh. Ok. taking a breath. I call bullshit on that last paragraph and -- NO. NOT. Damn, read some of these. I know I have decades of work to do, still, so much to learn, but jeez louise...ok. Stop, Greg.

Begin again.

It seems like many of our best works (good! inclusive, we ALL share this problem) are under-seen here on OS. I sometimes tout works, especially those that shock me with their relative low rating, and the same has been done for me (sandra, verbal, mary, Rob, and especially Jeremiah, Jimmy, and dear, dear gracielou). (good, load up the ones you love, this MIGHT get a few to click on my links, too).

Shit.

In spite of how this NEVER works, trying to be blithe and droll and urgent about the birdcage lining that is the post I made yesterday (I mean come on, whenever someone says in a comment "I will watch you from now on" I think "NO! go back and read my old ones! Doesn't anyone see how they must do this? that someone as good as, um, me, must be read from start to finish, like a collection of o henry or patricia highsmith? do we really think that older stuff was done by the stupider childish version of [me][you], the Yesterday Me, who perforce was still figuring it out? C'mon!), well, you get it, in spite of this, I still want to be read, and so I still...scheme on this. Jesus Christ in a holy bucket.

Ok, begin again. Here it is: a parsing of my work, so that everyone gets it, can sample the incredible variety and scope that is ***Greg***, something for everyone, and... crap.

Parsing diminishes everything. We want our favorite writers to be unaware at some deeply charming level, especially the ones with, ahem, real literary talent. We need them to be a magical blend of shrewd technical savvy and channeled Muse-amento, oblivious to the carnal self-satisfaction that is mature, objective self analysis, intra-editing.

Besides, parsing it is reductive, right? NO one will click on these either way, the brain goes into scan mode, and everyone shifts to the right or left, to see what Chris or Saturn has to say today.

It's like when you comment. You write some painstaking near-flame, tempered just so, or you break down for everyone what the poster might have missed (dotted with syrup so that it cuts clean and forgivably), or you dryly change the subject to YOU while seemingly making it all about THEM, and hit "comment" only to see some typo or Wrong Thing, and then add a second comment, then look at both and feel like a complete horse's ass, like the first comment is now revealing what a pompous patoot you really are (for example I commented here on Dorinda's lovely post on children and the afterlife, going contra on all the pro-afterlife stuff others put there, only to see that i wrote "Part Pooper" at the end, so I posted a "fix", to make it Party, which made the whole thing look stupid.) Right? (besides Part Pooper was kind of weirdly cool. Why do I sweat this stuff?)

The moment we organize our own work, we cheapen; what we all want to be, in ourselves and others, flow-driven rivers of intuitive brilliance, becomes...data? We diminish ourselves. We raise the specter of Calculation. We all know why we do this, flog our blogs, and so we resist the pure selfish selfishness of it. Usually. Even while wishing we could pull it off ourselves, as it were. The moment we become our own grad student archivist we lose luster. Yes?

Nonetheless I do so now. On the off-chance that one of the dozens of Favorites I have here on OS might see something they missed, and comment. And maybe, just maybe, someone will want, no, NEED to go back to the beginning, and read everything, and comment, and maybe that person will be an editor or publisher, who will need to sign me, to get my first book (fictional memoir, uses much of what I post here in the Acher category, over half-done) and who will then be astonished and downright greedy about the screenplay I work on that is the Greatest SciFiAction Movie Ever Conceived (outlined, scenes written, some story-boarding, but a complete finished concept), and (s)he and I will get rich and famous, he(r) for canny judgement, me for towering in both literary and Hollywood milieus, and I can finally put in a pool and write for the rest of life.

SO: here it is, with clever CSS boxes and Categorizations and Thumbnail Descriptions, Prioritized:

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Rats. Can't do it. (See the sequential list on the left. Which needs updating, so use the View Blog link instead). I want to. but I just can't. Sigh.

But I really want to.

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Greg - I found myself laughing at myself as I find myself reflected in this post . . . 'cuz clearly it's all about me :~). Seriously - I want more TIME and energy to read the way I like to read. But damn - I love your work. Might even browse your library for a bit . . .
That's a really interesting encapsulation of the frustrations of the writer (not just on Open). How do I promote my work? Should I really promote my work? Why won't the people just embrace my best stuff? Wish I had answers on those -- but I know this succeeded in making me go back and try to figure out which piece you might be talking about!
i feel yer pain, brother. i just posted one of my best pieces ever and no one read it. wish i knew some more child molesters to write about. that always gets em.
You mean the Carver peanut post?
The New Post ref:`Grouchy Marx?
Or,
A funny 1- star inn to sleep for free?
Or,
A one read about Grandpa brain sale?
Owl: cool!

Kerry: double cool! um, it's , uh, can't remember...better read them all, just in case.

Cap'n: PLEASE! post the link to that under-appreciated one right here and I will read and comment. If not here, then where?

Arthur: The one about Agnes Moorehead and Steve Reeves.
I think people need to be patient. Everthing's so hyped-up right now. Have faith in what you're writing, and stay for the long term. The audience (that matters) will eventually drift back to earlier work.
I agree with Patrick. Sometimes you just have to write and know that everyone won't make it over to read it. I like that you have your previous blogs so readers can easily access them. How do you do that?
So much truth in this, especially that part about the comments which I sweat over even now. I like the way you have your posts on the side, & wanted to try it myself, but couldn't figure out how. (I am tech-ignorant & not sure I'll ever get all the glitches down & still don't know how to link or print out posts even though I have been told several times.)

You really do deserve a swimming pool & a publisher.
Will keep reading you. Good luck.
I should go under cover as 'Library Lady' since I'm as busy sneaking around in everyone's library as I am reading current posts. I don't comment, thinking who will see it anyway - most people don't go back and keep a running account of # of comments or bumps 5 mos after a post. Or do they? Sorry, can't help with the blog flogging or magical mystical editor touring, but really love the Libraries.
Babette's Feast. Yep. Liked it. Burp! I mean 'bump' - not doing a re-post correction this time, but have been guilty, guilty and your comments are reverberating back enough so I'll likely take my licks and leave bad enough alone in the future. Errors will just have to bug the bejaysus out of those who get panties wadded or shorts bunched over that stuff. I think I enjoy the thought alredy. Yep, that's what I said. Alredy.
Now I have to add this assignment to my weekend?? Gak, it never ends here.
Patrick: yeah, i know. 99% of days i adhere to this. Today i rebel. In fact tho practically no one ever looks back. This piece so far inspired one to do so. cool.

C Berg: Go to Manage posts (top right), then on left is manage links then one can (painstakingly) add any link you like.
-- I write constantly. I have no idea what block is. I write for me and mine, that is, for the Constant Reader in my heart. I write what I want to read but can never find. No problem, except that I must work for a living and I am more than good enough to write for a living and I need a break, a big break, so that my children stay fed. There. I said it.

Bob: thanks
I do not mean any of this to be nasty…just to be frank.

I’ve been a member of a half dozen different Internet forums (for a) over the last decade and a half…and OS is the only one where all this crying about recognition and acknowledgement is so prominent.

I don’t think a day goes by that doesn’t see a dozen posts or remarks about “the terrible injustice of it all!”

What is that all about???

Some of the stuff written here is good…some even a bit better than good. None of it, in my opinion, is anywhere near the Pulitzer material some of you people seem to think it is.

Get over it!

You write…some people read…some don’t…some enjoy….some don’t.

If you want recognition…get yourself published. But don't be surprised that your stuff is simply not good enough to be considered for publication. Writing is a very frustrating endeavor.

If you think OS…or the people who write along side you in OS owe you something in the way of recognition or validation…you probably ought be doing something else for entertainment.
Gabby: damn funny. thanks

dickens: yep. but there will be no test. Only the immense satisfaction that comes from reading what I write (sheesh, this is getting so fucking weird).
Frank: Um, ok. Glad you had the chance to express this. I'm not sure that's EXACTLY what i am saying here, and I guess my self-deprecation didn't suffice or surface for you, either. To each his own. Oh, and I promise, I'll clean out the garage, soon. Really.
Greg, funny that you're writing this. I'm taking a short break from work and remembered you and wanted to read your post from yesterday (I'm going there next). Then I found this. As Kerry said, your encapsulation of the frustrations of the writer will resonate with many...and yes, I'd love to know which ones specifically you were talking about!
Greg...I hope you realize that all of the "you's" in my original post were of the universal variety.
OK: Kerry, Mry, anyone else:

these are the ones that i wish had more readers:


Baby Gone -- losing my infant daughter to divorce; (5 comments)
Xeno at the HotelLongest piece i ever posted, about the closest I ever came to suicide. In this piece I do it.
one of one -- me, imaging being a particular woman (6 comments)
My Nana passed, for 60 years. -- about my beloved grandmother, who passd for white (4 comments)
trying on White -- I imagine how my grandmother did it, how she passed for white(10 comments)
What a bullet knows. (6 comments)
if her cancer wins -- a poem to my wife (14 comments)
Is this heaven? (2 comments)
the girl in the Haight, 1970 -- a memory, x-rated (0 comments)
I blame "Twiggy". -- an absurd rant about twiggy and anna magnani (8 comments)
Angels in Dark Masks -- a precursor to my piece "no one wins online fights" (7 comments)
Civilization starts with a meal. -- dinner with my teenage daughters, plus Greek history(8 comments)
Anger makes you stupid. So marry well. -- more on my daughters; my wish for them (6 comments)
what really happened -- true piece, about meeting with my daughter's caseworker, and about me ex-wife's madness (tough material) (19 comments)
Noah counts -- what Noah says about god (5 comments)
If I Am -- what is so hard about great writing, examined (14 comments)
do I get this? -- agonistes on not having time to write (5 comments)
oops. -- a poem about loving everyone; a how-to (18 comments)
tympani heart -- about my mother's decline (14 comments)
part man -- a difficult piece about the first of my terrible surgeries (15 comments)
lucky boy -- what might be the opening of my novel (10 comments)
Hesiod Duck -- self-indulgent word play, limited audience (2 comments)
the list above is in order of importance, so if anyone wants to read just a few, start at the top.
clever and so true
I was ok with part pooper ;0)
Greg, your cleverness knows no bounds. :-) Very nice.

Dear publisher somewhere: Please read Greg's stuff and pay him for it, 'kay?
"so I posted a "fix", to make it Party, which made the whole thing look stupid.) Right? (besides Part Pooper was kind of weirdly cool. Why do I sweat this stuff?)"

This made me laugh out loud because that is SO me. In fact, I get so wound up with trying to make smart and/or witty comments that I just wear myself the hell out and give up. And just read and rate- which I've been doing most of today.

Ah the dream of the editor/publisher/agent finding our brilliance online and signing us on to riches and fame. May it ever live!
I added a link called "My Best" in the left hand column to separate my best stuff from the peanut butter and jelly sandwich recipes. I assumed this might be the answer to the problem you describe. Still, I find more new readers are likely to scroll down to the next most recent piece, rather than connecting to the links. Oh well, the customer is always right. The answer as always is to write more good stuff.

Loved the line about grad students carving out careers about the arc of your development. Double Ha! The same hundred writers get studied to death. Why doesn't someone, for the sake of originality if nothing else, follow the efforts of someone here. It would be a hoot. "The control issues that woyld plague Verbal's personal life surfaced in her work when she chastized her own readers for not following her recipes with the advised precision." Or "Correll's hostility toward his audience spilled over in a memorable (to those few who read it) piece demanding that no one could read his current post without completing the 87-post compendium listed in the left hand side of his column. He would spend the next decade devising a blocker to his work which could be passed through only upon completeing a 100-question quiz based upon his previous work. He would go on to post 700 more articles in his long life, none of which was ever read by anyone for the quiz was too hard for even his most devoted fans. Mr. Correll was nothing if not determined."
As I understand it, Van Gogh never sold a painting in his life. You can imagine his wife at the end of the day.

VVG: Hi, Hon!
W: Is that you dear? God, your ear's a bloody mess. You're not picking at it again, are you?
VVG: No, it's from whacking myself on the head again.
W: Oh, dear. Another day without a sale?
VVG: (beat) Yep.
W: Maybe you could catch on with a house-painting crew for the summer.
Roy: thanks

Dorinda: he he. and whew. that's a relief.

Verbal: what you said!

Just: yep, i wear myself out sometimes, too. what is it about us monkeys, anyway?

and why not dream?

jimmy: "write more good stuff" yep.

So far this post resulted in several new views/commetnts of baby gone. A good thing.

And DAMN, Jimmy, who knew you were so funny? wicked good on verbal and especially me. yes indeedy: determined

Jimmy, write some sly, razored comedy. Please.
con: actually he was a day trader with a tulip exchange, little known fact. His failures there are the actual source of the expression "dim bulb".
Great piece, Greg. I'm feeling a bit irresponsible: When you arrived, I found your writing to be some of the best I've seen on OS. (I still think you're one of the best writers here.) And yet you only rarely see me commenting. WTH? Over the last several months I've had to cut way back on my OS time, which means that I'll sometimes (often?) come across a post that even on first glance looks to be very good, written by you or Gary Justis or Tom Cordle or cartouche or Rick Lucke or Sandra Stephens or Kent Pitman or... (you get the idea), and I'll think, "Okay, I'll bookmark this and give it the time and attention it deserves when I get a break." I never get that break. Bleah. So here's a rating, for what it's worth...
Are you suggesting, sir, that my recent posts on sentient butter and constipation are not poetically brilliant??? You offend me, sir! I demand satisfaction. I shall meet you at dawn in front of the oak tree with pistols.

Great post, by the way.
Rob! Yeah, I do that to.

You are, here and in your posts, an honest fellow. I miss your comments , because you are dang smart, and pay attention, but I also fail to do for the ones I admire, and fail often. When i look at my inbox i cringe. so no harm, no foul.

You were one of the first to encourage me here. Glad you came by.
Sheldon: how about antique cheese logs at 10 paces?
Just want you to know that I am one of those readers who does read the older posts and leaves comments often wondering if the author ever reads my comments on the old pieces. And I still wonder all the time about Shorty and why/how he died. (Curiously I don't see that piece in your list - wasn't it "Shorty Died, I Didn't"? - that one literally took my breath away. I think that your writing is brilliant, bold and humbling.
Teresa

Thanks you for such kind praise. Shorty wasn't on the list because it was seen a lot, relative to the others. I must confess I read every comment, like a hungry man who finds fat grain by the road
Ha! I love how you captured the flow of your writer's mind. I only WISH I had the endless energy that radiates from your mind...

I admit to not reading much on OS lately. I have missed so many of your posts that, frankly, I am embarrassed to call myself friend. I am, however, wonderfully flattered to be called a dear (not just once, but twice) by you. Awww...

There is something about summer that just drags me outside...the garden, the trails, the treasure hunting. And from the garden comes the cooking, the small get togethers, the chilled Pinot Grigio...

It is increasingly harder for me to sit in front of the computer even tho I KNOW I'm missing great posts on this site. Sunshine calls...

THAT'S how I know I am just a blogger...not a hardcore writer. You sir, deserve praise and recognition for your talent and devotion to your craft. Write on...

It's true what they say...talent and ambition are both cursing and blessing at once, no?

Hugs for (((you))). And a promise to catch up on your posts when it clouds over and rains here. :)
gracie: hugs galorum, back to you. none of us can keep up. it is part and parcel for all sentient beings. thanks you for this and all kindnesses.
I really like this, Greg, because it's true. Not that every OS writer feels this way now, but I can't imagine almost every single one of us not having felt this way at some point (Frank's comment notwithstanding). I just haven't figured the thing out yet and probably never will. It's clear to me what I could do to get more widely read, and I haven't done it. I don't really know why except it feels like giving something up or maybe like risking something. I do know that I should be trying harder to do writing elsewhere if I want to sell it in some capacity. But I don't because posting and commenting here is easier. And if there's one thing I've learned about myself, I tend to move toward easy.
Well, here I am, doing as I'm told before I got the instructions. I'm sitting in a hotel room in Hong Kong and spending the afternoon catching up on Greg Correll while trying not to feel like too much of a groupie. Alas my capacity to comment becomes weaker as I feel overcome with your brilliance and underwhelmed with my lack there of. What silly things us humans, and me the silliest. There I made a comment about you that was really about me. But I am reading you this afternoon and loving it.