
On Mysogyny? plumbing is only part of it.
OK, so I see the gyny part of it and I notice Greek roots, so the correlation with plumbing is pretty much there.
But I raised my daughter alone from age 1 thru 6. I changed diapers in men's rooms in the 70's, before there were changing tables or neutral kid-care territories. Yeah, yeah. But no, really.
I have never stopped raising daughters for over 33 years, which is not entirely my fault. Don't look at me that way! I mean just that I don't, like, make a whole oh-poor-man no-boys-all-girls but-actually-women-love-this-kind-of-story deal about it. OK. sort of.
But I earn the right to sit and dish with the girls. I carried a little one on my hip for a lot of years on my own. Starting at 20. Yeah, Generation XYZ, angst that.
I hung with moms, I cooked pre-school extra breakfasts for moms (I was also the pre-school baker -- Tassajara ooh la la). I joined and started babysitting co-ops, I trudged thru Montana and France with backpacks and duffles and train tickets and a 3-year old. I availed myself, homeless, of shelter food and day labor-powered motel, to feed and roof my daughter and me.
I'm saying I know this:
Every one of the days for single moms and dads are essentially the same: get up, get them up, change diapers for a couple of years, have ready and dress with clean clothes, provide something worth eating, have happy words, take them safely where and when, make money, see them, play with them, maybe more diapers, good food again, "Quality Time" and that's a must, buckaroo, no matter what kind of pile-up is going on. Then a book and a kiss and also I love you regularly and be polite, knock first, say excuse me and sorry so they will too, be fair, don't worry about them while they sleep. Get some sleep. Repeat.
And what, if anything, does that have to do with Mom or Dad's plumbing? Same work, either way.
So girls, ladies, women, revered elder goddesses, I saw it and will forever see it from your perspective. The look men give you on the bus when you have a squirming kid and bags of paper/toys, and, um, what's that...kid smell?
The glazed boredom in their eyes when you recount a schedule or doctor's report or grade card or her need to just have you move so we can get to our seats and you were ignoring her cause she's just a kid? What's wong with you?
The way guys get, like, pissed, when kids are around, (and incidentally, I'll just do this one example, but how hard is it to be hail-fellow-well-met guy's guy with the regular joe guys, after setting her down to play with their wives' kids, and then -- after they talk scores and weather and trucks -- somehow also bring up MY latest news, which is a new tooth or a picture of a cow or how she has a hard time with this girl Jennifer on the playground). That sentence does not need a question mark to us girls.
The question is "what hovers in your hearts?", for lots of guys. Why isn't it your kids?
"Oh man, do I have to pretend I like being around kids? my kids? your kids? Can we just shut-up about this kid stuff?" (I sort of had to say that. Just put some Brooklyn into this for me. You understand.)

OK: Not every guy. Some are cool.
I have heard stuff you haven't heard, though. Women, Moms, this might get you an extra 10 degrees on what the &%^$@# is up with guys, anyway?
I sit, at a bar, or at a wedding, or in some guy environ, and I mention I have this kid, a daughter, or how I spent most of my twenties raising her alone, and then I barely say anything and the guy -- now, don't just blame his cups -- starts telling me this heart-rending, gut-knotting, slow-motion tale of the kid in New Mexico he never sees, or how he didn't spend time with his at all and that's why she left him. Or he's not sure why his grown daughter won't ever speak to him. She just won't.
And if it's just him and me he talks. WE talk. Like we really talk, at pick-up time from school, when we chat, us moms. I mean guys sometimes have opened up to me. Some want forgiveness? but most just need their stark failure to contrast, to have it just hang out there, with this guy they won't ever see again. It's a kind of existential therapy, a Szaszian natural catharsis, wherein I play the mirror.
I can't hate these guys. Only afterwards does it occur to me they are bums, or worse. But it isn't for me to say. Just one week before my ex brought mine to me, my baby, not quite a year old , and then went mad? I was preparing to leave the state, my separated-wife, AND newborn, and make some lunatic walk through the Klondike to the Bering Sea. This is 100% true: I had the meal cache locations plotted on USGS topo maps and half the equipment.
I did sew my own mummy and coat tho. North Face kits. I was always Mom-ish. I get more credit for this, right? what a guy, right? For ALL of this. Probably right now, dear reader, eh?
Well, quit it.
Cause if you feel a special place for how I was one guy who did not give up or walk away from what was mine in the first place, if you attach glory to me in any bronze, offhand, special good or extra credit way? well, fine, cool, I'll take that.
Now muster that for every parent or single parent you ever met or meet.
Every one of us that ALWAYS breaks the 40 hr work load and hugs 'em and gives up on the degree and lets 'em grow up on hope and full of books. This might mean your wives, guys. Um, "we" work, worked, really, really, REALLY hard for other human beings. Somethimes they are YOUR human beings.
Glory hail to you, ya mom, or anyone who does the mom work. Sacrifice makes good and just and fun new people, to do cool new stuff and fall in love with and hit home runs and design nice outfits and even grow up and raise you, too.
Guys: notice this. Love it everywhere you go. And, uh, join in!
"we admire the wrong things"
-- Sandra Stephens


Molly, and Rocky (above), my youngest, Eliana (below)



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Sandra: i love that you read this. I went back and found some pictures Molly has on her facebook page. See? Shana punim, eh?
And wow, pragmatic empathy! Yep. In a nutshell. We all walk around on two legs. Do your wok, trust all joy.
Thank you.
Nanatahey: I'll need a sponsor, and a full-time nurse. (thanks)
voicegal: thank you
Buffy: you honor me with this candid and positive comment. Thank you.
And hey, thanks for understanding. It, ahem, adds a note of realism to the "girl talk" aspect to dish the guys. No offense, to you or any other guy. Including me. Um. Uh. OK.
tai: thanks
Jeremiah: and what a breakfast it was! we did what? two hours? Main street Bistro indulges us.
When I got home it was either clean the garage or write this. My wife is so good. She understands me. Tho Monday night I still have to clean the garage.
A boy and a girl; and we all raised each other. They weren't even teenagers yet. I didn't leave that house until they fledged, first my son and then my daughter; and that set me free on my latest vagabondage, which has taken me back and forth across the continent, to other continents; and finally to a place that still allows me access. I can't post any pics because they're all in storage, back East, in a big wooden box I haven't opened in eight years.
My children were my life, my center, and it's been damned hard to find one of my own now that they have theirs and are living well, one in Santa Cruz and the other in Tahoe. Love at a distance is empty most of the time.
These issues are complicated, yes...?
My own mother died in the 1950's when I was young and I was raised by my father. I never thought of cooking, cleaning, housework as having a gender or being oppressive - it was just chores, life, stuff you had to do.
If a kid lived in a situation where a parent always did these things for them it struck me as weird. I liked being lazy but at the same time I though why would a kid want to act perpetually helpless?
Not that resolution is just so simple. Yeah. It's complicated. But 'hey" is simple.
You honor me greatly with this intimate and honest comment. Thank you, dynomyte. Love comes through what you say.
Roy: True. And all the other devaluations bug me no end; I am fierce on the topic of my three daughters' opportunities being un-infringed.
This is my one weird, personal, cluttered, corner of it, or where I intersect oddly with it. But: profound for me, for all the flip casual prose I affect.
Old Woman Walking: I respect your perspective and will not try to finesse it. I accept some of what you say as valid through and through, and some of it valid for you and others.
But what I offer here is my personal perspective being enlarged by my having done, alone, without family around and without much in the way of resources, what was then and still is, too often, called "women's work". I couldn't help but notice, for the last 33 years but especially when I was alone at it, that 90% of the women I knew gave me some respect, and 90% of guys ignored it, were confused by it, or, at times, sneered at it.
And so I ended the piece by speaking out, in my half-assed, soapboxy way, for guys to value and elevate this brilliant, all-important human work.
Our society does not value raising good children in so many ways, still quite profoundly financially (convenient store clerks make more than pre-school teachers). I am the zillionth person to note that there is an historical connection between ALL "women's work" roles and low pay, low respect, poor support.
I risked wrath for "tilting" mysogyny today. I apologize, and without reservation. But my life, my own work as a "mom", means something, too. I am, my life is, evidence of some oddity and complexity and transparency (or not) about our gender roles and expectations and capabilities, and I sort it out here, some. Thank you for the personal and heartfelt comment.
WalkAwayHappy: I love being that guy. If I had a swimming pool and could afford to write all the time life would be PERFECT. thanks
Jeff: thank you.
Just Cathy: She posts here, too (Molly Lilly)! It's so cool. And exactly right. I am human, and it was so hard, being a single parent. But it was obvious every single day to me, back then, that we are all obligated to do our all when we have a child. And how the little"extra" attention I got sometimes (and, a bit, today), as a single father, still added up to a pretty sucky amount of respect for all single parents. And still it's true.
I'll accept it, personally: good on me and especially: lucky me. thank you.
I did not resist. It strongly relates, but your point is true: I don't know the daily reality of being a woman.
I do have three daughters, and would hope that legislators, employers, admissions boards, awards committees, and benefactors of all kinds take the same fierce stand for justice you do, when it comes to evaluating who they are and what they do.
I enshrine this: "Being a present and invested human being, whatever gender, is the best thing we can do."
Bonnie: I hope they do better. Honest, hardworking, funny, respectful, of course, but money wouldn't hurt.
Stellaa: yep. it was a test. I almost failed it. I'll post about the first two weeks of being her only parent, if I can stand to be that honest. And the walk I had planned would have been impossible. Some part of me knew.
Thanks.
Rated.
This post and you just completely shine. It was a pleasure to read from beginning to end. You are the definition of anti-misogyny.
::love::
And yeah: values. that's the ticket.
Joy Mars: you are asking probably the one guy on OS who has absolutely no idea. Been here a long time, even asked that question of others, still don't know. I just noticed that On Mysogyny was part of dozens of posts, thought I had something to say about it, added 'Open Call" to my keywords, and hit publish.
OS is the grooviest place in all of time and space, "all the way to infinity and back again"*
*actual quote by Tony Orlando (of "and Dawn" fame), on an awards show in the 70s, about the love he had for Bob Hope
Um, hey, about that pipe...
Most fathers don't see the war within the daughter, her struggles with conflicting images of the idealized and flawed father, her temptation both to retreat to Daddy's lap and protection and to push out of his embrace to that of beau and the world beyond home. -- Victoria Secunda
Redstocking: some things have improved.
Natalie: but what an eloquent quote. I find biding my time, and generally doing right, meanwhile, to be the best overall strategy with daughters. Learning to be tough has to do with planting your feet; being independent means from me, too. Lovely.
Of course I agree that some kinds have improved, but the sexualization of little girls poses problems I never had to deal with.
You set a high standard for me, for the men I meet in my life. It's a good thing, a great thing, a very hard thing.
My mom would have been proud of you, you know she would, deep down in her heart, she was thankful.
I love you. Thank you.
sweetfeet: thank you
marytkelly: hey mary! Molly has overcome adversity and is now the assistant manager for food and beverage at Mohonk, an enormous historic hotel near us. She has an apartment on their multi-thousand acre preserve and is, in a word, spectacular.
And she posts on OS!
http://open.salon.com/blog/molly_lilly
I'd like to relate just one thing that happened to me last night at a New Years party I attended with several families. As is their wont, all the kids, of whom the oldest was 11, formed a club house in the bedroom of the two girls who lived in the house where the party was held. Nearly all the parents were content to convene in the kitchen, chatting among each other, catching up and musing on what the year ahead might bring.
A couple of the moms occasionally went to check on the kids and were rebuffed by the children with their sign posted on the door saying Club Meeting in Session No One Over 9yrs Old Allowed (they purposely exclude the 11 year old, who can be a little bossy and controlling and who [said] she didn't mind and [seemed to] prefer hanging out with the adults anyway).
I went by the room myself at one point and just walked in, ignoring the sign, not because I wanted to check on the kids, but because I wanted to hang out with them for a bit.
Immediate hue and cry: "CAN'T YOU READ?" YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED!!" "NO ONE OVER NINE!" Before I could mount a defense or convince them I really wanted to hang out with them, my son came to my rescue: "Wait, wait... he has the HEART of a nine year old!" After a moment of stunned silence, I was invited under the 'tent' and the club secretary duly recorded my name on the roster and marked me present. It was a proud moment to feel welcomed by my peeps.
Lonnie: what a great, great story!! I would be so thrilled to have that happen to me. I hope they also shared twizzlers and comics with you, too!
It was endless. It was hard. I did the best I could but it was definitely on the job training. I never expected to be a single mother; thought my ex would be a mom like you and I'd be a great father. Nothing worked out, for either of us, as planned.
But you are so right, the result over here is a sane and savvy woman who has her own problems but who is my heart. We put in the time and the attentions as did you. I am just guessing that a single dad to a girl or girls may have a slight advantage. A single mom to an only daughter is a little more difficult. Your post is gorgeous and in another mood I might think: Wow, he did what I tried to do but could not. She just went to bed and I was so happy with our hours long talk that I felt, not an everyday feeling, that for all the tedium, and sacrifice, it was well worth it. You know that. Not every single parent who is totally devoted gets back what you did, and what I see that I did too if with more down times along the way.
I think the single thing is what most spoke to me is that it's a hard and long trekk. I miss the baby and I admire and adore the adult woman. Girls and their dads; boys and their moms.
I wonder if you would have had a harder time with a son/sons? I can only say that it was heaven and hell and I give you many kudos for being a great dad. Sometimes I was great and sometimes I was overwhelmed. But what we have in common is that we never never never gave up. And that, for them, makes all the difference. Thank you for a peek into your single parent life. It sounds very fine. I applaud you and wish I, who did not ever look away but dedicated myself fully yet was at times: less appreciated. The results over here are not entirely clear. But I felt tonight that it was all worth it. You, on the other hand, never seemed to doubt that. Kudos. Brava. wonderufful post. When it's good over here, it's heaven. When it is fraghtt with bad vibes I get so sad. But tonight was heaven and for us that is not always the case. . Thank you and Bless you, WO
Lisa: thanks
Wendy: You honor me with this close read and deeply felt comment.
For brevity's sake, to make my point, and for the art of it I eclipse my old pain, doubt, terror, and hard times, with the sun of success and joy.
But many if not most of my posts are about very hard times. I share so much with you, your finely written struggle. It was damn hard, mind-breaking, back-breaking, soul crumbling hard.
I lost my heart sometimes but never my will to it; but in the dark of 3 am sometimes it didn't feel like much difference. And no consolation.
My oldest went through very tough times herself. Her natural mother was as often psychotic and on drugs, everything she could ingest. Was a cutter, and extreme at everything she did. But even she had a determination that never quite failed, to make what little time she could manage with Molly be positive. She waited to end herself until Molly was an adult, an act of will in itself that was greater than any of mine.
I still struggle. But what i have learned is in this piece and in my comments and not different than your eloquent words: keep at it. Keep your chin up, your head down, do good work. Endure the crap. Don't try to "win", let compassion win.
My beloved wife Deborah is naturally forgiving, biologically generous, in ways It took me 50 years to learn. But I have learned them. And the reward is: I earn my children's respect. At least today. Tomorrow I will struggle again.
There is no heaven or just reward, magically ordained. The best of parents can produce kids who live rotten. My father was a monster; of his four children I am most sane and I require a lot of help. It wasn't fair; fair is what comes from living in a civilized country, and human efforts, and fate always trumps fair.
But I am so happy that you and your daughter talked, and connected, and you did something wonderful making a human being who walks on sturdy legs and thinks for herself and has perspectives of her own. You let her alone enough so she be who she would become, you gave her enough so that she survived to do it. bless you. Thank you.
And the writing . . . if your goal was to totally rock the reader with a gentle explosion of wow, then you succeeded.
I love the parents who are tender with their children, who think of their feelings and want to raise them right. Such parents are a boon to society at large. I don't care about the plumbing of said parents.
The picture of the little girl in fighting pose is truly priceless.
Kathryn: thanks
Ralph: I think I would need a handcart and oxygen!. thanks
Owl: this is such a lovely comment. I like that part about my heart expanding. I have ungrinched myself. thank you.
Lainey: Gender stuff is tricky, yes. There were times -- sitting listening to the "girls" dish guys, with the token "but not you, Greg" ha ha -- got under my skin. Still does sometimes. For every 3 women who liked that I did the right thing, raised her, there was one who was irritated about it, snide, or something. I think sometimes it was this: we have not got our fair share of the pie(s) in this country, and you get extra attention for this, one of the things we do and do and do, and often do so well?
It made sense. It's so complicated. But ultimately, ANYONE can be a good parent. Master the every day just do it part, and voila!
thanks
cartouche: happy new year! and thanks and yeah i see the difference every day. So cool.
Con: That's Molly. She was a pistol!
For some reason this brought tears.
On day in India after a terrible quake,
pause
the Deccan plateau shifted from test.
underground weapons testing shook.
dead amounted to 28,000+ crushed.
rocks
walls
home
barns
Walls shook.
Baby cradles were smashed.
A Earth rocked back and forth.
The Quake was at around 4AM.
People had to be there and care.
People gathered to bury victims.
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This relates to wounds you know.
Wounds that will never go away.
You know you will carry forever.
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You don't want no bronze shoes.
You don't need no editor picks.
You used your glorified hands.
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I almost did`no comment. sigh.
ref. beautiful people that you love and share @ OS.
I was gonna say:`
I remember fields of`
Gold flower marigolds,
Brilliant Sunflowers,
fields of Mustard bloom
I can't explain. no words
I don't always get what you write. I came at poetry in the most bass-ackwards way.
But lately you have started to make sense to me. I see your comments elsewhere and sometimes a weird thrill goes up my neck -- a snack on a bench, a supple movement in languorous southern water, a rocking motion at a window when a loved one leaves.
Whatever it is you intend with this, I get this: you are moved, and you connect my words to the large tragedies and glancing blows, and how we pick up the debris, every day, and set the table aright, while we wait for the waters to retreat.
And I get this: I know I am On To Something. I don't get many ratings -- If I get 30 it's a rare thing, and silly posts (some i really like!) regularly get 60 or 80.
But the comments that come in -- like yours, thank you -- honor me, and I amazed when people bare souls and connect with me, and guide me to be a better writer.
I love OS. OS is marigolds, yes, and sharp crags and brilliant sunflowers yes o yes and i kiss and stroke the winedark sea that takes me here, and sometimes I live in Penelope's tears and sometimes I cower in the rot, in the cave of the cyclops, but OS is always Ithaca, always the home shore, where even the old blind shepherd has a warm rock to rest upon, and and where my bed is an ancient tree, and flowers over me while I sleep.
Patie: Yep. It gets real simple when our daughters arrive.
And there are good ones on both sides of the gender wall. (Also bad ones).
Hugs.
I agree with Redstocking Grandma that if both men and women partake of child rearing, we have some chance of reaching more empathy and less misogyny/misandry (what is the difference anyway?...) in this world. I wished more people had as clear a vision of this as you do. I can only hope that my daughter will turn out to be as good a human being as your daughters have -- she shows all signs of it, but she's still only 7...
Thank you for writing this!