What? (what did he say?)
Hey, can you tell those kids to stop screaming in there? I didn't hear what you said.
Whatsit, Karen -- KEVIN -- I know he's a "dude", don't talk to your father that way, I just made a mist- look: she walks away. I'm saying something to her and she just leaves. She learns how to drive and she thinks she doesn't have to resp...
What? OK, Kevin, are we all what? Old? (shifts in chair to ease the ass surgery place, where it pinches) (winces from the lower back thing) (grimaces from the meds). Wha? oh, what do you young people know, with your hip-hop and whiney-white-boy folk singers who only know two chords and how every girl singer thinks Mariah Carey is better than Joni Mitchell.
I saw her once, where was it, in St. Louis? hey, Deb what was that place? Freedom Palace?
Civic Auditorium? No! ...wait. Right. The Palace was in KC.
No, not Carey, Joni. Mariah Carey, geez, all that fancy trill shit, all that yodeling. You read Catcher in the Rye? remember the "Grand" guy? Who couldn't throw the magazine on the bed? it was...no, wait. It was the other phony guy, the piano player, in Manhattan, where he takes the girl, where he talks about all that show-off-y trill stuff he hates. Like that. Singers now think they just oodlie-oddlie-eeya-uhya-uhyuh-woo-hoo on the notes and it means they are good singers.
You should listen to Miles of Aisles. Or Ella Fitzgreald. Or Etta James.
There's a direct line from Kate Smith to that whatsit, Melanie, Candle in the Rain, "lay it all down" crap to Madonna to Kelly Clarkson: all crap. Populist, bloodless. non-artists.
I saw Zappa three times. And the Airplane, before Starship. And I saw Jimi in 1968. Whaddya mean Jimi who? are you a complete moron?
(adjusts ass surgery place again) What? No, I'm not old. Some of these writers here are old. You can tell from their little pictures up there, which ones are old.
Young people. Feh. A bunch of sissy-asses if you ask me.
Explain what? Just a minute. I. Can't Hear. In Here! I'm serious! (long pause, waits for a lull in other room.) I'M SERIOUS! It has to be quieter!
(scratches beard, rubs head)
Zappa has more in common with Rosemary Clooney than he does with the bullshit they call rock and roll nowadays.
Hand me that seltzer. I like a little seltzer with my cranberry juice. Sip this. No, c'mon, sip this. Eh? See? Oh, just wipe that off, where I was...sorry. But good, eh?
Hey, girls, don't bring that noise in here. OK. (puts head in hands, wipes face.) Just get what you want from the fridge and go. I. CAN'T. HEAR!
Girls, say hello to Carl - KEVIN! -- he's my waddya callit, meetup from OS. OS. Open Salon. Never mind. He thinks we're all just old people on ...look at that. They just walk away. They can't wait to get back to the marathon on that E channel, the back-to-back Bling LoveRocket HiltonZilla Gilded-Cribs reality sex humiliation show -- ah, you like that, eh?
He he.
I know more about this shit than they know I know. See old has nothing to do with -- (winces) (adjusts ass surgery place again, rubs small of back) -- oh man. No, I'm OK.
You talk now. Tell me why you write on OS.
I mean if you think it's all old farts -- sorry, but just let me interrupt here, I know I'm talking too much -- but this is just what's coming, you know, the whole deal, for you too, all you young people. Did you read about my kidney stones? I did some good stuff there. Anybody can write about the pain and all that but i made it real, I get you in there with me. Pissing blood. That's real stuff there.
That's the real "Saw" you know: old age. Me and Jeremiah -- I mean Jeremiah and I -- he lives here in town, you know? -- he and I are doin' a collaboration. It will be the most horrifying thing ever seen: two old guys, on stage, sitting in chairs, talking about their ass surgery and their cancer and their hospitals stays and the ER.
No props. Two chairs. Truth to powerlessness.
TURN. IT. DOWN! (long pause) Thank You.
That was my I-really-mean-it voice. You have to save that, use it sparingly, or else they ignore you complet--TURN IT DOWN!
Goddamnit.
You want some more of my seltzer juice? No? Sure?
Lights-out-in-the-reptile-house, that's all that is, that "Saw" and "Halloween" and "Chainsaw" and all that shit. Just tricks. You want horror? Piss your pants, cry for mama, want to die NOW horror? Getting old. The nuts and bolts of it.
If the young really knew? They'd lay down and die, right here, right now.
They send you home with the catheter now, to save money, the insurance companies, those goddamnsonuvabitchbastard gonif insurance companies. You know what it's like, to have a heavy bag of piss taped to your leg, to turn suddenly and feel that rubber tear at the waddyacallit, the pisshole at the end of your cock? Just knowing there's a bulb in your bladder, and if you yank the tube wrong you'll pull the whole fat ball of it thru that little, that little channel in your cock, or have it get stuck halfway out, while you sleep, and...
Oh man, you're cringing here, sorry. But this is what I mean. Being old takes guts. Once you have some "procedures" you start to think: fuck me. Uh-uh. I want to fall off Everest or die rescuing kids from a fire or something. I don't ever again want to hear some nurse say to me: " now I won't lie, this is going to hurt," and then spend the next two days trying to chew chrome off a pole from the pain of it.
What were we talking about? Oh yeah music. Just let me say this one thing: it's about GRIT. Practically nobody has grit. Some do, they have a little. Whatshername, April Laverne? She's good. She write's her own stuff -What? Avie -- Avril? yeah! Avril Lavigne! Right! -- she's good. What? What's so funny?
But you want to hear grit. "Wang Dang Doodle", Koko Taylor. Google it. Wait a minute it's on my iPhone, just a minute. She had grit. Etta James, I mentioned her. Just a second. listen to this.
(we listen)
You hear that? That saxophone? That's sex. Not that humpty-hump my lady bumps, smirky bullshit. She says, she says there: "..and when the fish scent fills the air, there'll be schluf-tooths everywhere",
Yeah. We're old. We're old, but we fucked in the grass -- what? too loud? yeah OK: (lower) we fucked in the grass. We filled the air with fish scent. Schluf tooth, you don't get that? (demonstrates) Ah! See? Sucking air thru your teeth because, not because she's got a nice ass, not JUST that, but because she moves it just so, and she turnnns, and looks you straight in the eye, and you feel it, you feel her in the root of your pelvis and in the tops of your thighs, just above the knees, and because everybody feels it, the whole rent party street dance feels it all at once and...
What? Yeah. Yeah, I guess so. OK, OK! So it's a common thing, the dance floor is the dance floor; you still have this thing. You know. All right. I guess.
No. Wait a minute. No, it's NOT the same. You got that whatsit, beat box. Fake drums. What the fuck is fake drums? why would anybody want a drum MACHINE? Arms, man. Arms with sticks.
You smile. You think a beat is a beat. I see how you young people dance now. hands behind your head, thrust thrust thrust.
Yeah. OK. You dance better. You got choreography. We just flowed and rocked and boogalooed. Looks silly now, that hippie sine-wave thing. You guys pump it up, do the moves, do it right. More corrector. Smooth.
(leans in)
But we had grit. We had soul. You guys, not so much. There was more dance in Otis Redding when he just leaned, man, just LEANED into a phrase, than Britney Spears ever wriggled in, or on, ever, or ever thought of wiggling...shit. I don't know. Britney Spears is bullshit. The Jonas Brothers is bullshit.
Joni wrote about razor blades, fever in the rust brown bowl. Bobby Dylan wrote "I hope that you die" about the men who made money sending me and my friends to war. He didn't want his bitches and hos to go down. He wanted to stand over Evil' s grave and make sure it was dead.
Where's your MC5? Where's your "kick out the jams, motherfuckers?" Where's your Ralph Stanley, your "Rank Strangers"?
Where's your "Hound Dog?" (coughs) You ever hear (coughs harder, adjust ass surgery place again) Big Mama Thornton sing that song?
It's about grit -- God, I really wish they would turn that down. You know they have a show now about teenage rich kid's cribs? I mean what the fuck? First, cribs: is that supposed to be gangster or ironic or what? Next, these kids did nothing, I mean nothing, to get these private disneyworld houses and playland acres. What are we supposed to do, we normal parents, when our kids sit and watch this and say "awesome" and "cool" to all these private dance floors and indoor basketball courts and plasma screens in their bedrooms? It's bullshit. It's all bullshit.
You read Sandra Stephens? She's on OS, with us. No? I don't think she's too old. She runs, anyway. She says "we admire the wrong things." This is the point. You want to forget about this "old" shit.
Ha! yeah, true, true: I'm the one going on and on about this. Ha. Yeah. I guess so.
But we had an idea, back then, in the 60s, and it was good and true and right. Dance like you mean it. Admire grit. Love soul. Trust all joy. Make this a better place, if you can.
Scent the air with the holy stink of real, of real us. Suck air though your teeth.
Simplify. Buying shit doesn't make you young. It saves you from nothing. You'll see. It hurts like crawling naked on glass to be old. Old people who smile and caress their grandkids anyway, as they rot away, who don't bore you with the agony of dying? Admire them.
We were wrong about shit in the 60s, too. A LOT of shit. We said don't trust anyone over 30. How sad that is. How stupid we were.
Ok, you talk now. Tell me, why do you do it, write on OS, where old know-it-all assholes post? Why would the young listen to us at all? Why should we listen to you?
What, you got grit?


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Yes. This ain't pretty business, this growing older old oldest. I'm dancin' while I can.
Robin: SO cool you are published! Yep, in this i get to make one of them sit down and listen. Ha! Pretend is so much fun. Writing is power! thanks
Rita: this whole thing might just be an excuse to put Koko out there. thanks
C.K: love your new piece haven't commented yet, but what a photo that is, so pretty she is.
Dance. yep.
Lea: After my last piece, and the amazing response to it, and the tear in my soul it was to write it? I was sure i was going to wait two weeks and then write a finely observed description of a stick. or a a rock. Some palette cleansing writerly thing.
Then I wrote a brief comment to kevin's (http://open.salon.com/blog/kevin0719/2010/01/21/is_everyone_on_open_salon_old) and then it was so very cool to play the ranting old geezer, as you say, that this just poured out. Sorry to say: I could do long pages of this. Amuse myself no end.
Just a minute: TURN THAT DOWN OUT THERE!
thank you Lea. Proud of it, too.
Amen.
Thanks for channeling Kurt Vonnegut. I've missed him.
:)
I would write more, but my fingers are starting to get stiff. Stiff Little Fingers--those punk fuckers could bring it, too.
Frank: hey. you embarrass me. Chest bump, etc. And I did see Frank 3 times, no shit. I heard about the dweezil homage-ish thing but haven't checked it out yet.
Plus the Ramones. "Rock n Roll High School" was pure.
For an hour.
There are things I try not to think about or look at. Like thongs. The other day our shi-tzu got a hold of one of their thongs, and I am the only one who knows the trick of getting things away from him he shouldn't chew on. So I got into a tug of war with my mutant lapdog, pulling it away from him, slowly, while my brain ricocheted thru memorable aspects of the third grade, the way the ice sticks to the tree out back, ontology vs empiricism, and anything other than the damp chewed on thong, er, thing, I was gripping.
I am a brave writer but some things are just too weird.
Robin: let's...change the subject. You're a published author! My theory is only talented writers should be published. And you are! You write in your latest:
"I am a Tiger and this is my year. The year for my fur to shine and to look through diamond eyes."
If that isn't the 60s I'll eat my Uncle Sam hat.
Spooky-beautiful photos of chinatown, too: (http://open.salon.com/blog/robin_sneed/2010/01/19/riding_the_golden_tiger/comment)
scanner: we were right about the arc of it - love -- the practice of it? mixed bag. We loved euphoria to death, some of us. And we forgave our own hate -- "pigs" -- because we thought ourselves on the side of the angels. The classic Error of human beings and why history is so sad.
But what's so funny about peace love and understanding? Better than cable channels devoted to being young, stupid, and ruining your life. All to entertain the vapid response team.
Better to fail at compassion and doing great things than to succeed at expecting the least from the worst.
R
Yeah.
Now you kids, GET OFF MY LAWN!!! **gets out his pellet gun** :)
R
That's the White Stripes...Seven Nation Army! Pretty damn gritty!
And there are enough of them listening to "our" stuff...and stuff derived from it too. Take a look my brotha MJwycha's latest post about Dylan...or the earlier one about Government Mule.
Some of the youngsters get it, mister. Some of 'em do!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxoe8c1rzys
If anything will save this current generation, it will be music. What else can sing across the divide?
We paint ourselves blue, wear loinclothes, and call it "Saw 23 3-D." And we need to practice vine-swinging.
I talked it over with my urologist and he concurred with me -- YOU should do the on-stage cathetherization. It'll save money. I'll do the cryonic kidney puncture & will eat -- onstage, of course -- a three-course hospital meal, including the Beef Breath Broth, the Okra Nuggets in Velveeta Sauce and the extra-bouncy cheery Jell-O cube.
Still work for you? Have your people call my people & we'll do breakfast.
OK:
Robin: the 60s live!
Buffy: someone once said the people in the 60s were different because hey might do...anything! thanks
C.K.: My kids HS daughters won't laugh even when I know they know its funny. They stand on principle. I respect that. thanks
ClarkK: Clark! Clark! you OK, man? Somebody get his oxygen!
1_I_mom: but you were thinking it, young lady. Don't give me that look! And i don't care WHO started it.
YIERSANSI : yours is the most subtle and ironic comment of all. the way you underscore my secondary themes of the shallow commercialism and exploitation that has replaced idealism and commitment, by imitating on of those phoney "brand names! cheap!" spammers. You are new to OS but I suspect you will be here a long time, and do very well indeed.
skel: woof! thanks/
bellweather: you are right of course. And Joan Osborne is pure grit. thanks
mary: those goddamn stones. thanks.
lunch: well i fart less now, because I belatedly want my daughters to be ladies. I really screwed that up; they are fearless athletic scholars and could care less about the niceties. oh well. thanks
Gail: I am hoping 60, when I reach it, will be the new black 30. I will then sprout an afro and intimidate young white hipsters. thanks
tinker: I use a potato gun.
true story: i bought a potato gun for my 15 year old and she almost immediately shot a potato pellet up my nostril from 4 paces. true story.
thanks
Stella: yep. Like moist. splatter. pancake. Hubble Bubble.
Dr S: ooh la la. lucky duck you. I saw Albert King in a tiny club in south St. Louis in 1968. he tore it up.
rita: "la-la-la-la" (fingers in ears)
junk1: love you back. once you get grit you will never see cable tv the same way again.
yek! grat, more on my OS reading list. I should just quit my day job.
But you are right of course. some do. I like qwen and ga-ga. A kind of grit, methinks.
bell: MUSIC will be the thing. It saved us from the stifling fifties; it will save them from corporations that don't vote but can buy elections (God i hope so)
Jeremiah: this is the funniest damn thing you are killing me stop! stop! I thought I was the funnier one. This changes everything.
hmm. props. they do great things with pyro squibs now. perhaps we can set off some charges when we do the flashback of them cauterizing my sphincter.
greatfull: I don't really hate Mariah. But there are so many wannabes. Cissy was better than Whitney cause she had soul. James Brown is better than, well, anybody, because he meant it. Chris Brown only means to get over on us.
There's no criteria anymore. So it seems sometimes. Or else the criteria is $ and numbers and points.
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And hey: where's the Koko love?
Thank you for Big Mama Thornton
But Big Mama meant some whole other thing. She could dance, too
donnastreet: Thank you.