Kind of Blue

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Taoist, Yogi, Father, Husband, Jazz Trumpeter in Progress

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FEBRUARY 23, 2011 2:31PM

The Evolution of a Lasting Marriage

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Appropriate to this photo, life was a blur for us at 21 and 23 respectively.

It's been quite a while since I posted any actual written content on Open Salon (waiting for applause to abade..., Okay) and I'm not quite sure what the impetus for this piece, but here goes.  As many on here know, I've been with my wife for 25 of my 46 years on Earth.  We also have many people ask us what our secret is, and I will share our secret with you, willing to read.

I named this "The Evolution of a Lasting Marriage", but not in the Darwinian sense. I mean within the period of a long marriage by today's standards. I understand that today's standards may be very low, but let's say 50 years for reference' sake.  My maternal grandparents were married 63 years, so it's within the realm of reality.

I once asked my grandfather when I was a very young man how he and my grandmother had stayed together so long? He answered with one word, "patience".  He really didn't even elaborate after that as he was often as brief as he was wise.  He let that word stew in my young brain for a while as he also often did.

My grandparents were polar opposites.  My grandfather a kind, gentle, hard working and completely honest behemoth of a man.  My grandmother a tall and thin, moody, secretive and rather loud woman whom I loved very much in spite of it all.  My grandmother gave my grandfather a tough time most of the time.  But they loved each other and just as often showed that side too.

With myself and my wife I can sum up the key to our longevity in one word, patience.  No, I'm not trying to be a meme to my grandfather or unoriginal, it just turns out that my grandfather was right.  I though will elaborate a bit more.  Marriage is like a fine wine, you must let it age and become more complex to fully appreciate it.  The only advice that I give to someone who is contemplating marriage for the first time and asks my opinion is can you walk away when angry and can you muster the courage to say I'm sorry?

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When a couple first meets they live off of pure infatuation, lust and adoration.  This varies from person to person in how long it can keep the fire lit.  Now I will admit that this was a long time for my wife and I.  I will however say that the infatuation, lust and adoration doesn't necessarily disappear, it just dissipates a bit and changes form.

I was infatuated with my wife's outer beauty, poise, intellect and humility.  I lusted for her petite and beautiful body.  I adored her passion and compassion for other people and for animals.  Twenty-five years later that infatuation for all of the above has changed and added my amazement of her as a parent, professional and tolerant, patient wife.  The lust remains but isn't 24/7 as back then.  Anyone who expects that is pushing the boundaries of reality to the extreme.  My adoration of her has actually grown in all ways and has added many other facets.

Now what you do add new to the equation are the somewhat negatives that you don't encounter in the early stages of a relationship and even marriage.  My wife is quirky (as am I) and she is the single most stubborn person I've ever met.  This conflicts with my consummate forgiving nature.  My wife is the type who rarely admits she's wrong.  I admit I'm wrong every day about something.  My wife on occasion wants to go toe to navel with me in an argument.  I always prefer a quiet, peaceful resolution. 

I have so many quirks, faults, shortcomings, annoyances, aggravations, etc... that I'm going to spare the details.  Let's just say I'm working on them all.  I also have my positives but I would humbly digress and let my wife elaborate on those.  Where Susan and I have suceeded is that we have both learned from one another about each shortcoming and patiently (notice that word) never given up on the other.  If we split up every time we had an argument, disagreement or felt that the other was just too much to handle, we'd have parted ways many years ago.

The bottom line for me is that our evolution has transformed one type of love to another more complex and long lasting love.  We respect each other so much more after all the mighty hell we've endured and we relish the memories of all the great times we've had together.  I have been faithful to my wife all these years and she to me. I've never even thought about raising my hand to her in anger, nor her to me.  I've never lashed out and called her a  profane name and I've never talked negatively about her behind her back.  These are the things I'm most proud of after all this time, outside of our beautiful son.

People have asked us if we can both envision another 25 years together and without pause we always answer "yes" simultaneously.  I can't imagine the grass being greener and I don't want to imagine it.  When temptation has stared me in the face in these 25 years, I always mentally and very deeply told myself that gratuitous pleasure is fleeting and that I am a horrible liar and could never live with that kind of secret.

A colleague on a business trip once said to me (ironically enough in Las Vegas) "your wife would never know!"  I looked at him squarely and said, "I would."  If you can evolve to that point and truly mean it, you're home free.

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May you all find the happiness in life that I have.
Namaste'
Nice to hear from you Blue my man! My first wife and I got married for all the wrong reasons and fought like cats and dogs. It was doomed as soon as I said I Do. But now, after twenty years with Terri, we're like an old pair of shoes, comfortable together and we match, a little beat up but with a lot more wear. Great Post my friend!
WOW You are a very lucky couple, I wish I could say all those things about my marriage.
Geez, look at the long arms on that kid!
Greg, great to see a new post here by you and the topic of your wonderful marriage! There are some definite ways to have a marriage last a long time successfully and you told your story in such a compelling way. I hope many will stop by to read this and gain in knowledge!
I really admire you, guy!
I too am blessed with a saintly husband. Our love grows more intense as our history grows.
You are a very lucky couple. Good to hear from you.
That last sentence says it all, or at least says a lot. It has to do with trust and respect and appreciation. It has to do with discipline. It has to do with moral fortitude and honesty.

Of course, there can be less noble stuff, too. I, for one, am just too lazy to ever manage an affair! And like you, I'm not a very good liar, nor do I want to be.
It's good to see you back, Greg ! You have been missed. It makes me very happy to read happy stories like yours - it's like you and your wife are the fitting pieces of a jigsaw puzzle and complete each other. I wish you continued happiness and all the best.
♥R
Great to see you back here and a very inspirational post, as usual. I have said it before, Blue...You are such a lucky dog!
So nice to read your writing again. Lovely piece and it is exactly what I dream for myself.
You are right smack dab CORRECT - which you already know. Thanks for a great read!
Beautiful. Inspiring. True. rated.
All the best to both of you.
That's a PERFECT phrase Scan-Man, fits like an (not so) old pair of shoes. :-) Not every married couple is and I thought about that after I posted. Some are doomed to fail no matter what, like my mom and dad who have 8-years age difference (dad is older) and my mom 19 to his 27 when they got married. After 17 years of marriage, they grew apart. He's an introvert and she's an extrovert.
The maturity just doesn't match.

I think there's someone (more than ONE) for all of us Spirit. Just keep the faith (in self and karma).

Haha Bill! Yeah, imagine the 5'10 PG's that I guarded trying to get past me! Long arms and quick feet.

Thank you D, it's great to see all my old friends, it REALLY is. It does take hard damn work I'll tell you. Marriage is not for the lazy of mind, body and spirit. Like any job or any sport, hobby, endeavor, you get out what you put in. If all you do is give or all you do is take, it's not going to last.

You see Kathy, I will humbly say that is what my wife would say about me on a blog. We keep everything between the two of us. She is not a gossiper and especially about our marriage. WE work things out. I refuse to fall into the blame game. It almost always works out to 50/50 anyway. Resolve and move on. That's our motto.

GREAT to see you sweetfeet. I am very lucky, that is for sure. I celebrate that aspect of my life as very lucky. As Scan said, we've been through the shit together, but it sure is a higher chance of making it through with someone you trust.

Exactly Steve!!!! "It has to do with trust and respect and appreciation. It has to do with discipline. It has to do with moral fortitude and honesty." That could be the entire post... I don't think that it's we're lazy, I think it's that we just can't bear that kind of burden. Right?

FuSun (xoxoxoxoxoxo) big hug. That's another great analogy. We were just two puzzle pieces who met by chance at a time when we were both down on dating and we clicked. If ever there was fate, it was with us. We were engaged two weeks after our first date. Lived together two-years engaged and married. Number 25 coming up in June...

Kate, my wife learned to say "I'm sorry" once our son was born. It took her a long time. She is an Army brat and grew up moving all over the world. It's just not a big word in their household as they are all such perfectionists. I too am a perfectionist, but was taught very young to say "I'm sorry" because most often it will bring an end to misunderstandings.

I know Cathy. As is your and Mary's significant others. I miss many of you guys so much. I just can't get pulled back into every day posting and reading. I love to visit, but just can't live here anymore.
:-)

Moana, what we can dream we can achieve. Just remember, make sure the one who is lucky enough to land you has the same characteristics I described. Willing to work hard at marriage and knowing it doesn't always come easy is the best advice. Patience. "In good times and in bad" is the most oft cast aside vow. I dare say more so than infidelity. What doesn't kill a couple makes them doubly strong.

Thank you Kit. It's not an opinion or a fact, just the truth for us. I don't presume to be Dr. Ruth or Dr. Phil or Dr. J! (Probably closer to him), but I do know my marriage and what has worked. If one person can read that and it helps or makes them stop and realize how good they have it, it's worth the write.

Thank you so much Deborah. Deborah is my sister's name. :-)

Thank you Padraig my good man. I wish you all the best as well and many blessings.

Thank you very much Rita, and to you and yours.
That's a PERFECT phrase Scan-Man, fits like an (not so) old pair of shoes. :-) Not every married couple is and I thought about that after I posted. Some are doomed to fail no matter what, like my mom and dad who have 8-years age difference (dad is older) and my mom 19 to his 27 when they got married. After 17 years of marriage, they grew apart. He's an introvert and she's an extrovert.
The maturity just doesn't match.

I think there's someone (more than ONE) for all of us Spirit. Just keep the faith (in self and karma).

Haha Bill! Yeah, imagine the 5'10 PG's that I guarded trying to get past me! Long arms and quick feet.

Thank you D, it's great to see all my old friends, it REALLY is. It does take hard damn work I'll tell you. Marriage is not for the lazy of mind, body and spirit. Like any job or any sport, hobby, endeavor, you get out what you put in. If all you do is give or all you do is take, it's not going to last.

You see Kathy, I will humbly say that is what my wife would say about me on a blog. We keep everything between the two of us. She is not a gossiper and especially about our marriage. WE work things out. I refuse to fall into the blame game. It almost always works out to 50/50 anyway. Resolve and move on. That's our motto.

GREAT to see you sweetfeet. I am very lucky, that is for sure. I celebrate that aspect of my life as very lucky. As Scan said, we've been through the shit together, but it sure is a higher chance of making it through with someone you trust.

Exactly Steve!!!! "It has to do with trust and respect and appreciation. It has to do with discipline. It has to do with moral fortitude and honesty." That could be the entire post... I don't think that it's we're lazy, I think it's that we just can't bear that kind of burden. Right?

FuSun (xoxoxoxoxoxo) big hug. That's another great analogy. We were just two puzzle pieces who met by chance at a time when we were both down on dating and we clicked. If ever there was fate, it was with us. We were engaged two weeks after our first date. Lived together two-years engaged and married. Number 25 coming up in June...

Kate, my wife learned to say "I'm sorry" once our son was born. It took her a long time. She is an Army brat and grew up moving all over the world. It's just not a big word in their household as they are all such perfectionists. I too am a perfectionist, but was taught very young to say "I'm sorry" because most often it will bring an end to misunderstandings.

I know Cathy. As is your and Mary's significant others. I miss many of you guys so much. I just can't get pulled back into every day posting and reading. I love to visit, but just can't live here anymore.
:-)

Moana, what we can dream we can achieve. Just remember, make sure the one who is lucky enough to land you has the same characteristics I described. Willing to work hard at marriage and knowing it doesn't always come easy is the best advice. Patience. "In good times and in bad" is the most oft cast aside vow. I dare say more so than infidelity. What doesn't kill a couple makes them doubly strong.

Thank you Kit. It's not an opinion or a fact, just the truth for us. I don't presume to be Dr. Ruth or Dr. Phil or Dr. J! (Probably closer to him), but I do know my marriage and what has worked. If one person can read that and it helps or makes them stop and realize how good they have it, it's worth the write.

Thank you so much Deborah. Deborah is my sister's name. :-)

Thank you Padraig my good man. I wish you all the best as well and many blessings.

Thank you very much Rita, and to you and yours.
this is beautiful. My husband and I have the same kind of long lasting commitment and yes, patience with each other and our selves. (Commitment has been our word passed down by parents and grandparents on both sides that stayed married). It's 35 years for us and you are absolutely right. Neither of us could live with a lie. Wonderful thoughts wonderfully written.
This is lovely. I remember the day my marriage ended, I saw an elderly couple walking together, and I thought, that will never be me. (Of course, for all I know they'd only just met!) I'm OK with that now, but I do admit it would be lovely to have someone to rub along with. Thanks for reminding me that it's possible.
I've heard it said that to be in a long-lasting marriage, you have to fall in love with your spouse over and over again. I get upset when people (mostly men) repeatedly condemn marriage. Thank you for a wonderful blog by a sensitive and insightful man still in love with his wife after 25 years. She's lucky to have such a loving husband. BTW I have you beat by 4 years ;-D
applause :) good to read you again, Blue... rtd for all the hard work that went into this thing :) and for hugs to you both
Just dropping in. Thanks to everyone who so kindly commented and saw this for what it is, a tribute to our marriage and not an indictment on any others or as a "guideline" for marriage. We just got lucky and put in a lot of work.

Looking at the first blurry photo (and I can't find it now that I've got a scanner again) I must clarify that the tan I had back then was nearly year around as I worked outside doing landscaping during college. That, and my tendency to tan easily (something I no longer do) got me quite dark skinned in the summer. My wife is the same way but thank God she stayed out of the sun most of her life. Tanning is just not worth the price later in life.