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Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA
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September 17
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One of my favorite places to go is about 12 miles out in the Atlantic Ocean...in my little 20 ft. skiff. The clear water is a deep emerald color and the sunlight bounces around and shimmers randomly. I meet survivor sea turtles, bow-riding dolphin, silent sharks, giant rays rocketing out of the sea and backflipping, schools of porgies, sea robins, slashing blues and mackeral, the occasional whale, stray birds...I am a way too veteran educator, a political junkie, a cowboy in a previous life, a lover of synchronicity in daily life...meditation and prayer, and a believer that the best days are still ahead. ************************************ I love following politics and current events, but they all take second place to watching a hockey game. I write occasional Op-Ed pieces - usually on educational issues. ************************************ "Be gentle with this life, and use the light of life to live fully in your time." ************************************ "Saint Benedict and Saint Scholastica, you were people of peace, you walked the paths of peace your whole life and led all who came to you into the ways of peace. Help us to seek peace and pursue it, to be the first to hold out our hands in friendship and forgiveness. Help us to achieve peace in our hearts, in our homes, in our neighborhoods, and in our troubled world. Let peace fill our lives so that we may live in God's grace and love. "

APRIL 30, 2009 9:38PM

Two Truths and a Lie: GRIF REVEALS ALL (most?)

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THE TRUTH (HONEST!!!!) 

 

 

 

OK. I’m pretty insulted by how many people have said that they totally think I have been arrested AT LEAST THREE EFFIN’ TIMES OR MORE, and once for indecent exposure for God’s sake.   

Well, #1 is TRUE.

In the spring of 1970 four of us “fun loving and crazy” college guys were driving from Durham, NC to Louisville, Ky. for the Derby.  It was late Friday night and we had pulled into a highway rest stop in Kentucky, only an hour or so from our destination. Given that the Derby is this weekend, this event actually occurred 39 years ago tonight. Weird. 

Anyway, there were “No Facilities” according to the sign, so we pulled up near the woods in the dark at the end of the lot, got out of the car, placed our open beers on the roof, and began peeing in the grass (and it was pretty dark).  From out of fucking nowhere came a pair of headlights courtesy of the Kentucky Highway Patrol. Next stop was the London, Ky. jail for an overnight stay in the drunk tank (that’s another story all by itself).  

In court on Saturday morning we learned that the charge was indecent exposure.  At our “trial” the judge learned we were Duke students, then told us about his niece that went to Duke, and how he hoped she didn’t know us or hang around with us, and then announced that one of us could plead guilty to the charge and we would all go free, and -  this is true- the fine was however much cash we had in our pockets ($71.34).  My nervous roommate volunteered to take the rap and we let him!  We made it in time for the 5th race, and the Derby.   

#2 is also TRUE. 

Sonny Bono had a close cousin (Liz) in Michigan who was a high school buddy of mine.  Sonny and Cher frequently visited Liz and stayed at her house.  We always got to go over and party, and they partied pretty hard.  And she was HAWT, if you know what I mean.  They came even after their blockbuster album (“I Got You Babe”) in 1965.  Some trivia: Their first duo gig was as “Caesar and Cleo.”  Go figure.

 

 

 

  #3 is a LIE. 

Melinda French Gates and I went to the same college but at different times, and we’ve never met. I do think she would be fun to know - she is very smart and she and Bill are quite philanthropic. But if we had dated, Bill would be very, very jealous (jeez, I’m kidding, I’m kidding…Yikes…just a joke….chill). 

 

This was fun and I sincerely appreciate all of you for coming over and taking time to play. I love my OS buds.  xoxoxoxoxxoxoxoxo

 

 

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ORIGINAL POST

 

1) I have been jailed on three separate 

     occasions; once charged with indecent

     exposure.

 

 

 

 

 

 

selling tea kettle 

 

cupid 

  

 

 

 

2) I partied with Sonny and Cher in the late

     60’s.

 

 

sonny and cher     

 

 

 

3)  Melinda French and I were an item at  

      Duke  University before she married Bill

      Gates and I married nobody-you-

      know.

 

 

 

Third Serious Love
 

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There is something incongruent about the time line between numbers 2 and 3 which, I think you presented intentionally to throw us off the trail. Therefore, I believe they are in fact true and that number 1 is the lie. You have probably been arrested more than three times. ;)
I think it's number 1 too. I've seen that tea kettle photo before...
ok, if you dated melinda, can you tell me if she is truly the decent person i imagine her to be? and sincere, and did NOT marry him for his money at all? bc i need to believe in her integrity and desire to make the world a better place. wow. grif dated melinda gates.
ps - i say now as i said before, that cupid picture is hot hot hot, even if you don't care for the outfit.
3 is the lie. I think she is too young. I totally believe the indecent exposure...I think it happened while partying with sonny and cher.

Ok, reading that made me think that there is no way you partied with sonny and cher in the sixties because you ain't that old. so I will change my pick to 2.

And that is precisely the kind of confusion you are trying to cause, so I think that maybe it is really 1.

There, that's my choices. 1,2 or 3.
Oooh, if you dated Melinda, you're too young for Sonny & Cher. So (no offense) I a have to say it's #3
I would guess number 3.
i'm with smithie on number one. and on melinda gates being awesome. i have a mad girl crush on michelle obama too. and i also echo smith on the cupid outfit being hot!!!! maybe you could make that one your avatar???/ love love love
I love the guesses. I am 59, Cher is 63 and Sonny would have been 74 but...and Mel is 45. And look closely at the tea kettle.

These additional comments of mine, by the way, are all true statements.
I want all 3 of these to be true!
Okay, so I just looked at the tea kettle. I'm sending the authorities over there *right now*.
You are too, too funny. But here's how I figure it:

You may be older than Melinda Gates but you live in North Carolina. Duke's in North Carolina. To Melinda, you would have been that erudite older fellow who swept her off her impressionable feet with your experience and" juune say kwa" manner. It could happen!

As for #2, I think you have way to much self-respect to have hung out with Sonny and Cher. It's just so WRONG! But hey, humans are capable of doing extraordinarily odd things. So, this could be true.

So, I'm having to go with Cartouche and say that #1 is the most likely lie because you are a sly, sly fellow with mischief on his mind and I think you've been Mirandized a heap more times than just 3.
I hope #2 is true. Look how gorgeous they both are! I never thought of Sonny as cute before, but he is there.

I agree with Cartouche on #1.

I don't have a big opinion on Melinda Gates, so I can go either way on that one.
Arrested more than three times. #1 is the lie.
Which ever numbers turn out to be true, I want the whole story! I am going for #2 as the lie.
3. is the lie, although she would have been lucky to have you.
OMG!!! I just looked at the tea kettle. Ok 1 is true obviously
Grif...please, please, please, tell me that's not you in the kettle. I realize it is distorted, but I'm not sure I can process the image.
Damn JK! It's not me!!! It's a Snopes myth photo and story about a guy who posted this pic on ebay to sell his teakettle. I'll pm you a pic of me if you get the lie figured out correctly.
I'm going with 2 ... on a hunch.
I am officially begging you to take the teapot pic down. C'mon, Grif... we're all nice people here. Why inflict this upon us?
I'm going with #1; not sure how many times you've been arrested, but my guess is not for indecent exposure.
I'm loving how many of you are cool with me being arrested - even more than 3 times. What's with that? And the tea kettle stays!!!

I'm going to bed. Answers on Friday afternoon cause the damn day job (oops, YES, I am grateful to even have a job) is keeping me away from my desk most of the day (and that's actually a good thing).
One is probably true because you used to drink. Two is probably true because you used to drink. Three isn't true because you used to drink.

;)
number 2: only cause soooooo many folks partied with those two. I think you are more special than that.
I'll go with number 3. Cause, well, it just seems right!! :)
Wow, just read to take a closer look at that kettle... it would have totally escaped me otherwise. Well, I know I've read your stories about being arrested, so #1 is true. And I remember reading the story where you had that gorgeous pict of you performing as Cupid.

My guess is #2 is false. I don't know... #3 just reads as more plausible than #2.
I'm too distracted by the teakettle to guess.

Okay, I'll pick 3 as the lie. I can imagine you partying with Sonny and Cher.
Final answer...3
Am I too late to play? I think #3 is the lie. I have followed your posts so I heartily believe #1. The chronology of your life make it possible or you to have met and hung with S&C. And finally - I just don't think Melinda is your type. So #3.
First, I am so deeply disturbed by the photo in the tea kettle, that I feel nauseous, but I still think you could have been arrested 3 times. Second, Notes from Jobless said, "To M, you would have been that erudite older fellow who swept her off her impressionable feet with your experience and" juune say kwa" manner. It could happen!" I can TOTALLY see that happening!!! I think #2 is the lie. Now, go put some clothes on!
I'll go with Melinda.
No. 3 all the way. But I've been right on these only once, insofar as I know.
Grif I believe you have been arrested for a variety of reasons.
I believe you have known Melinda
Gates, in the Biblical sense.So, that means I do not believe you partied with
sonny and Cher!
I'm going to go with 3 as false. I can see the first two. I would have knocked Sonny out and had some fun with Cher!!! :-D
Ahem, I mean just ask her to sing "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" for me. Hahahahahaha
I am late to this party. But, I have to say that I am astonished at #1. Nearly speechless. And can't look anymore so I'm logging off.

But, before I go I'll say that #3 is the lie. She seems to staid for you.

denese
I should have gone with my first instinct. I let myself you were tripping me up. Come and see my confession when you have a moment! Indecent exposure, my ass!
this was a tough one because none of them seemed true (I figured you were arrested but not for indecent exposure). you got me! Chilling with sonny & cher? niiiice!
Cher IS hot! Cool...thanks for the REAL truth grif
Hi Grif;

Thanks for alerting me to your answers. I was pretty sure that #1 was true in some measure. I want you to know that although I'm not a true Dukie, I did a postdoc at Duke in 2004 in their sociology department (formerly their Center for Demographic Studies in Aging). Best two years I've spent in a long while.

denese
Well, I was wrong. I laughed when I read what the judge said about hoping his niece didn't know you - I wonder if he warned her.
Let me just add, Grif, that you look far too buff in your avatar picture to be the guy in the teakettle, even accounting for curved-surface image distortion!

(Thank heavens I don't know how to zoom!)
Well, damn, I missed the party. But I love your stories, esp about exposing yourself to Cher... oh wait, I got that mixed up. You went to Duke and live in Chapel Hill? Well, how curious. You're a man of mystery.
ha...I was right!!!! YES!!!
and I'm really glad you aren't the guy in the kettle
yay! i was right about one of these!
thanks for this. i have no idea about the number of arrests but i trust cartouche's wisdom. love love love
i love that you partied with sonny and cher. well, if it hadnt made partying even more glamorous and irresistable for you, anyway.

i got you to hold my hand, i got you to understand. i got you to walk with me i got you to talk with me. i got you to kiss good night i got you to hold me tight. i got you and i wont let go i got you to love me sooo. babe.

its actually a very sweet song, in case you didnt know.
WOW I got it right..AYAYAY!!
Okay but what about the image in the tea pot everyone (JK) asked about. I didn't catch it at first until I came back by and seen her comment. Are you going to answer that one also? LOL
somebody skilled in photo manipulation zoom that teapot photo!
inquiring minds REALLY want to know -
oh grif, duke? that's too bad man. the heels WOMPED on you guys this year. that's gotta be tough. oh well, there's always some time down the road...tobacco road that is....
So glad for number 2.
Oh Grif! Back in the seventies I SO wanted to BE Cher! No fair...I would've partied with the three of you if I had been given the chance!
My vote is number 3, unless you knew her as a Duke trustee. Hmm.
Well, I figured the indecent exposure arrest was probably what it turned out to be - that story is not too atypical of college men :-)
How cool that you partied Sonny and Cher!
for those who wonder if Melinda Gates married Bill just for his money -well, you can't really separate a guy like Bill from his accomplishments (a big part of which is money)..but Melinda was just an ordinary project director in charge of the biggest floppiest failure of an initiative that MS has ever launched ("Bob"). I think she loved him for being OK with the failure. They're a good match.
Thanks to all for reading, commenting and sharing a laugh. The comments are way better than the original. And both Sonny and Cher were very down-to-earth people back in the day. I mean, back in the day. My son at about the age of 13-14 once asked me very seriously if they had television when I was a kid? That hurt, and then I thought about it and realized it was all B&W and we only had three channels, and a fuzzy picture on Educational Television.

But it seemed good then, and it was. I get 200 channels now, but still only watch three – msnbc, Fox Sports Carolinas for hockey, and ESPN or whatever channel is broadcasting ACC basketball. That’s really about it. Man, I really wandered a little here. Oh well, it is my post.
Sonny and Cher, huh? You know, I always thought Cher was one of the most beautiful women ever prior to all that crazy ass plastic surgery. She was so cocky and sure of herself but sweet. Hopefully she was like that in person too.

Indecent exposure....ha....
That is SO cool that you partied with S&C! Did she have a full complement of ribs in those days?? (I've always thought she was stunning - until the last few years when she succumbed to Hollywood pressure to look like a wax mannequin. Shame.)
I missed all this but I love your sense of humor.