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JANUARY 6, 2009 8:59PM

Ideal Time For Sex Is How Long????

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 Sometimes you just can't make this shit up.  As always, a banner on Compuserve put me into "RCA Dog Mode".  I simply had to click on the headline, as likely you did to.

 And you get the benefit of my rapier wit to go along with the prurient drivel up on Compuserve.

"Surprise! Ideal Amount of Time for Sex a lot shorter than you would think. In a ''they got paid to do this?" kind of study, researchers have figured out that the optimum amount of time for sexual intercourse is three to 13 minutes--not counting foreplay. "

 Three to 13 minutes is kind of a large window, is it not.  Does it not kind of have something to do with the, uh, satisfaction level of the partners?  There have been times where there have been games to see who could "race to the finish line" which likely makes the men feel like the Harlem Globetrotters and the women like the Washington Generals, but typically there's a desire to try to make sure both passengers arrive in the train station.

 So to speak.

Foreplay would seem to have something to do with the ability of the conductor to punch the ticket.

 "That's the word from a survey of 34 sex therapists, all of whom are members of the Society for Sex Therapy and Research in the United States and Canada. While some fudged the answer by saying the optimal time depends on the couple, most agreed it was sometime between three to 13 minutes. Sexual intercourse that lasts just one to two minutes was deemed "too short" by the sex therapists. The Associated Press reports that this strikes at the very notion that endurance is the key to a great sex life."

Guys everywhere puff out their chests like Tim the Tool Man Taylor thinking they last way longer than three minutes, while women pine for more.

 Of course drunken frat boys still subscribe to the notion they haven't done the damsel justice unless they have raised blisters on the unwitting victim's labia.

"Lead study author Eric Corty, an associate professor of psychology at Penn State Erie, The Behrend College, told AP that the purpose of the research was to ease the minds of those who believe "more of something good is better, and if you really want to satisfy your partner, you should last forever." Previous research published in the Journal of Sexual Medicine concluded that the median time for sexual intercourse was 7.3 minutes. This was based on a four-week study of 1,500 couples in 2005 in which the women in the study were armed with stopwatches. "

 Just what every guy wants during intercourse, a partner with a stop watch.  Are you kidding me?  How many withered at the starting gate?  To hell with the stop watch, why didn't they just get the women to go, "One one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand ..." and really fuck with their heads.

"Marianne Brandon, a clinical psychologist and director of Wellminds Wellbodies in Annapolis, Maryland, told AP that it's difficult for older men and young men to make sexual intercourse last much longer than 13 minutes."

 Well that was like scraping a needle across a phonograph record, with said reference likely indicating what part of the sentence startled me.  We know young guys have hair triggers.  We have no sympathy, given their recharge rate is likely less than 13 minutes, also, the bastards.  But what is up with geezers?  Could we have a little more insight into that, please?  I am turning 50 in less than two months.

 "There are so many myths in our culture of what other people are doing sexually," she told AP. "Most people's sex lives are not as exciting as other people think they are." The study findings were published in the Journal of Sexual Medicine."

Wait?  Porn videos are not accurate depictions?  People do not suspend from ceilings and screw for hours with IV saline drips?  You mean they do it with their eyes closed and the lights off in less time than a Buick Commercial on Jay Leno?

 Looks like we traded lack of inhibition for opposable thumbs with our primate ancestors.

Tough call in this context as to which one of us got the better of the deal.

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The blisters on the labia comment.....whooo doggy, yes...

Dood....after an hour...I'm sore AND insulted.

heh.
I sense your pain. Liquor Dick is not for everyone.
OK, Geoff - At the risk of sounding silly at best, I'm thinking that even 3 minutes, not including foreplay (that may be a lost art to some)......would be mighty amazing and pretty OK by me! The porn I have viewed had zero foreplay and was repititious to the point of stone cold turn off. Think I'll quietly tip toe away from this comment now. (yikes)
Oh, Lord. Blisters. Yes. Enough. Get off already (no pun intended).

I think porn's evil insistence that "real men last for weeks" was invented by the artificial lube industry.
The ideal time for sex? After you've brushed your teeth....

Oh, wait.

Repeat after me, folks.....quality, not quantity. And love should conquer all (my own situation notwithstanding).

Silly "researchers".
3 to 13 minutes...sure. Sounds good.

But, seriously, the thought that 13 minutes is too short- this is excluding foreplay. And all civilized folks know that, at least 1/3 of the time, foreplay should last three times longer than the act. So that's an hour-long commitment.

And as to three minutes, hell, I'd say, at least 1/6th of the time, I'd appreciate fitting the whole damned thing into halftime, foreplay included. So there's that. I definitely don't disagree with the study.

Especially because I'm so damned busy. If I had to set aside 90 minutes for sex, I don't know that I'd have time for hobbies. Important hobbies, like "Eating" and "homework" and "commuting".
It should only take you as long or as short as necessary for both involved...That is the CORRECT answer! :-D
Sore labial member always in mind!
So fellas, don't drink and screw unless you're REALLY ready!

rated because I laughed
Just Cathy: Whatever floats your boat, as they say. As long as everyone is of age and has signed a consent form, then go to town….

Verbal: The lube industry has a new demand generator. The combination of Viagra and Vaginal Dryness.

Darkside: Quantity Versus Quality? How about practice makes perfect which means on weekends you need to switch to two-a-days.

Hobo: Consider combining a few activities. Foreplay while commuting and incorporate food into the sexual congress associated thereto. Like my wife’s OBGYN said about sex in the last trimester of pregnancy … “If there’s a will; there’s a way.”

Now, if you will all excuse me, I need to go out and howl at the moon. Won’t be more than 13 minutes, tops.
Practice makes perfect...or it chafes. Just saying.
If it chafes, then you are out of practice.
ha! I'm surprised the stopwatch sex lasted THAT long.
"Ideal Time For Sex Is How Long?"

How long you got?
Hmm, this is impossible to answer without revealing more of my self/life than I wish to. Fun topic, though.
If it lasts all night, you are doing it wrong.
As long as I come (to the party), I'm okay. It might take me a while to get ready but I'm good once I'm warmed up.
Amen P.F., that's what I'M talking about! You must warm up the engine before you put it into drive. And try to avoid "overdrive" fellas, unless requested! I keep thinking of Ben Stiller's wife in the film "The Heartbreak Kid" on their honeymoon. She keeps screaming "c**k me, c**k me!" He says, "I am, I am! I think?!"

Give'em what they want, and when!
Huh? There is no "optimum" time. Some people are happy with ten minutes, others go much longer. One is not better than the other. (Quickies ARE fun!) And since when is "sex" just "intercourse" Uh . . . . I thought ANYTHING that included one (or two people) person and resulted in an orgasm was sex. These people that did this study must have been employed by former pres. Clinton.

WTF are these science whores thinking? Seriously. As IF they really know what is happening in American bedrooms (ahem . . . homes) I call Bullshit!

So I guess all those lazy four hour romps were a waste, huh? Feh!

Hey, Gwool . . .I say all these science freaks need to get out of the labs and actually have some sex so they KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT!

And now I'm out of Sake . . . . . hell!


Rated!
You tell 'em Greg-Sama!

:D
Over 15 minutes I'm going "Ok, is this happening for you or not??" Less than 3 minutes and he's wanting to do it again 5 minutes later. So I'm not really surprised at the 3-13 window. Sounds ideal.
U make me recall the scene in THE MAN WHO FELL TO EARTH where the character came through his pores--or was that a wet dream I had last week for 2.3 seconds?
Does the 3- 13 minutes INCLUDE dinner? Just wondering.....
i know 3 is the magic number and all, but i think a 5 - 15 minute window seems pretty comfy. you have to ask yourself though, the optimal time for a satisfactory sexual encounter is way different in a "nooner" situation than in say, an "on vacation in Aruba" situation, right?
Cartouche: I assume the dinner issue depends upon how many cars are in the drive thru line.

They don't call'em happy meals for nothing.
I am so not normal..... my answer is hours and hours...

(I so hope I don't regret posting that. I've typed it and deleted it three times in the last hour.)
BLISTERS!?!? ow ow ow owowowow
Porn is ridiculous (sorry, wakingupslowly!) Nobody does it for hours! 15 minutes is great... assuming everyone's having fun of course (and the foreplay lasted more than 5 minutes). of course we can all remember times when those 15 minutes were the longest 15 minutes of our lives...
I have to say this is the kind of study that makes it tempting to go back into research!
Nobody??? Dammit. I knew I wasn't normal.

Back to the treadmill then. (See Bee's post for that link!)
In my experience -- ahem -- 3-7 minutes is only if she's expecting her husband home any minute or you got a late date waiting at a bar someplace.

" This was based on a four-week study of 1,500 couples in 2005 in which the women in the study were armed with stopwatches. "

Oh, for chrissake, talk about performance anxiety, I don't think I could even get it up with a woman holding a stopwatch. But then I'm a geezer.
Forget the stopwatch, this one stopped me in my tracks.

I know a couple who's been happily married over 30 years. They still have a vigorous and varied sex life, but like most longtime marrieds, some encounters are better than others. Net, net, it works out. You just have to be creative.

She once did something so Not creative, it beggars the imagination. Her husband, after suitable foreplay, was dutifully, lovingly and vigorously entre act when he heard her whispering to herself, "34, 35, 36..." etc.... She was counting his strokes!

Oh well, better than counting the cracks in the ceiling.

Great post, I am now inspired to add my .02 on the subject of Dumb Sex Studies.
"Hmm, this is impossible to answer without revealing more of my self/life than I wish to. Fun topic, though. "
sandra no longer miller
January 06, 2009 09:41 PM


I'm with sandra on this one. I will say: however, there's lots of ways to be a statistical outlier here (I mean 13 minutes when it could be...). enough said.
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3-13 minutes? Hmmmm...I think I'm still in my honeymoon period. Then again, I am married to a carpenter and he's got quite a tool box. Not bragging or anything, just saying...I've got a lover with a slow touch.
Damn, I remember reading about this a while back and quickly put it away. It was not something I could write about in my local column.
Then along came OS.

My recommendation for ideal sex(minus warmup/pre/foreplay) would be the time it takes you to run a mile. Since sex usually includes two people, take the average of both. If you haven't run a mile in a while, use your best time ever. Even if you go back to high school, your best(for most of us) wont be under five minutes. I was a 1/4 miler anyway.

A secret from my own personal study for the guys. When I NEED to go longer, I just imagine a monkey sitting in a tree eating ice cream. Dont ask me why, but that has never failed me.
It should last through the complete commercial break to include random station identifications and teesers for the 11 o'clock news. If either of you want a sandwich or something to drink, preparations and commute times between the kitchen and your "love nest" need to be considered.
This is problematic if you're working with a partner with a sever perversion because those tend to require significant prep or clean up time. If one finds oneself in such a conundrum feel free to copulate in whatever deranged manner suits you for whatever duration you can manage but it's probably best to complete all activities and reset the room to it's more normal condition prior to going to sleep. Nothing is more embarrassing then getting caught by your six year old stumbling to the bathroom at four in the morning in your chainmail chaps after your semi-annual "Knights of Columbus" night.
Take my advice, I know from whence I speak.
I feel strangely sad that anyone needs instructions or guidelines in 2009...
I think I disagree with everyone here. Liked the post, though! Ruh-ruh-rated.
Wow. Figures the silly one I do about sex engenders the most commentary. I’m not real good with the itemized replies, so apologies in advance if I missed anyone.

Greg: You nail it. Making sure both partners reach the train station is way more important than the precise time at which the train gets to that station. Sometimes the express route works, other times a lazy milk run through the countryside is just what the doctor ordered.

(Jesus, who knew train travel could be so useful for obtuse discussions of the greatest act known to man – and to woman if the man is mindful enough…)

Sandra: I understand the reticence. Hence the replies in metaphorical form, so to speak.

ePriddy: If it lasts all night you are doing it wrong? Something tells me Sting might beg to differ, but perhaps his wife would agree with you.

Pretend_Farmer: Indeed, think of it as singing. Some folks need a long time to warm up, while Zero Mostel was known to simply stand at the side of stage and croak “Me, Mi, Mo” before heading out to sing, and the audiences still loved him.

Greg: Give’em what they want? Yeah, provided we all know how to share, that is. Taking one for the team can get old if once in a while you aren’t the team…

LadyMiko: I am in violent agreement! Instead of normal people screwing in labs with stop watches, I say we make geeks screw behind two way mirrors behind the bar while we knock a few down and comment on their form. (There’s supposedly a bar in Alaska that has monkeys behind the bar that patrons can watch, so why not a few PhD pin heads?)

HolleyComesAlive: You like the sweet spot of 3 to 13 eh? Makes it come alive for you, does it? (Sorry, the subject matter, the name … it was low hanging fruit suitable for a Poconos warm up act.)

BenSen: Know not the reference.

Lonnie: Exactly! Sometimes you want to take the express train with a foot against the door to keep children or party guests coming in, and other times you want to explore every inch of the terrain.

WakingUpSlowly: Hours and hours? And WakingUpSlowly? Shirley you see the humor in that connection.

Tom: Feel your pain about the damn stop watch.

Sally: I had an encounter relayed to me in terms of the time it lasted once. Takes a while to recover from that.
Mary: Carpent tool box? Lover with a slow touch? I will leave that one alone. I don’t want my response analyzed!

Rijaxn: A monkey in a tree eating ice cream? That is so wrong on so many levels that I just might have to try it. At least the monkey was eating ice cream rather than playing with himself or flinging poo at you.

Dijetlo: That is one of the funniest things I have read in a long, long time.

Robin: Oh, hell, we all wonder how well we’re doing there at some point in our lives, and curiosity gets the better of us in our pursuit of the mind blowing sexual encounter. Most keep wanting to improve upon it, no?

ManTalk: Thanks for the rating. And why doesn’t the disagreement surprise me.?

Well t-t-t-t-t-t-hats all folks! I’ll be here through Satrurday, and don’t forget to tip your waitress !
This is the problem with mathematical averages of things that do not aggregate in that fashion. There's probably an average height for a partner, which might be incorrectly referred to as an “optimum” or “ideal” height, that tells you nothing about what height you should choose. There's an average speed to be driving on a highway, too, but don't try to drive it in a speed zone that doesn't prescribe it or even in a speed zone that does but between two vehicles not going that speed!

Optimality is not always about averages, but sometimes about mutually consistent choices—about “compatibility.” Societies exist where driving down the right side of the road is the convention, and others where driving down the left side is the convention. Taking an average is not what avoids crashes in any given location.
Kent: In a message board forum where I was once a moderator, there was a rather active, uh, alternative sexuality group. They had a mantra of YMMV, or Your Mileage May Vary. It was shorthand for "if it feels good do it." I came to hate the phrase, but appreciate and wholeheartedly endorse the concept.

I prefer the way I recall Orson Bean articulate the same idea on the Johnny Carson show close to 40 years ago when he said, "If two guys and a chicken want to get together and have at it, and the chicken signs a consent form, then who cares?"

Seems I was a libertarian at birth!
"Most people's sex lives are not as exciting as other people think they are."

Mine is!
Nothing like being a legend in your own mind, John! :)
The legend lives, Brother!
I also have delusions of grandeur. ... Point?
Well, John, there's an adage that says we can all go a day without sex, but we cannot go a day without rationalizing.
Geoff - I can't resist -- which came first, the chicken or the two guys?
Better yet, let's put the chicken and PHD behind the mirror at the bar and then we can ask, which came first, the chicken or the egghead?
I see your comment, MTN, and I want to be a smartass and retort something about Monkeys and Typewriters.

But I agree. It is clever.
I think I may have been dissed or even double-dissed, but I'm too dumb to know for sure.
Typewriting Monkey
Quite the contrary, my good man. I pulled up on the stick vis-a-vis the diss given the creativity of the retort.

I was just trying to think of ways to incorporate our simian brothers into the word play.
Tom, no! I didn't dis you. Sure it was a dumb-clever joke. Last time I checked, men really, really liked dumb-clever jokes. And videos of other men getting hit in the delicate bits by various objects. I'm not sure why that makes us laugh, but it does.
Well, obviously, I'm one of those New-Age hyper-sensitive types. Guess I need to start channeling my Inner Caveman.

Speaking of sex with animals, I believe ManTalk visited my post Pilgrims, Playboy and Porn, and you might want to visit, too, Geoff, for some interesting tips on bestiality. After all, monkeys aren't always available. Check out the strange case of Thomas Granger:

http://open.salon.com/content.php?cid=45727
3 minutes in a box
13 minutes with a fox
and this little piggie had none