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Salon.com
OCTOBER 20, 2009 12:11AM

Give San Diego Coach Norv Turner the Denver Game Ball

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I managed to catch the tail end of the Denver/San Diego Monday night game given my new found curiosity in the Denver Broncos.  I flicked it on with about 6 minutes to go in the fourth quarter with Denver ahead 27 to 23 and with San Diego driving.

On the Denver 36 and facing a 4th and 8 with 5:48 to go, Norv Turner opted to go for it rather than kick a useless 56 yard field or punt.

Why not punt, Norv?  Situational punting?  High in the air and pin them down hopefully inside their 20 and ideally inside their 10 where Denver will have to play safe, block and tackle football to not make a critical mistake.

Does your punter suck, Norv? 

Why give the Denver offense the room?  If you do not trust your defense to get a three-and-out with enough time for another drive, why do you trust them to hold them from their 36 if that is your fear?  Fourth and 8 is a real low percentage play.  There was time for the D to get you the ball back.

That was the strategic play.

But that is Norv.  Marty Schottenheimer lite.  Norv was deemed an exceptional offensive coordinator by virtue of being the guy who got to watch Troy Aikman throw to Michael Irvin and Emmitt Smith run in Dallas.  He parlayed this into a Washington Redskins' head coaching job where he went 49-59.

Walking corpse Al Davis turned to him in Oakland where he went 9-23, and then he managed to take over San Diego from Marty Schottenheimer, going 11-5 two years ago and 8-8 last year.  They now sit at 2-3.  It's a performance reminiscent of Pete Carroll's in New England when he took over a Super Bowl losing team from Bill Parcells going 10-6, 9-7 and 8-8 before the Doogie Howser lad was put out of his misery and dispatched to the college level where he has achieved success.

So Josh McDaniels is a great, young coach, and Norv Turner is now a three team retread with limited success.  It will likely be a trend in the NFL to take shots on younger guys rather than keep trying to get silk from a sow's ear.

 Josh managed to get the silk tonight, given Norv Turner did not trust his defense enough to get him the ball back, so Norv took a risk on 4th and 8 and wound up with what he feared most: the Denver offense with the ball back.

Way to go Norv.  I am sure your defense feels great about your vote of confidence.

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First. foootball spotes!
The game ball belongs to Josh McDaniels, not Turner. Easy to turn on the game with 6 minutes left to go, see one decision which I agree was a poor one and decide that the Broncos won because of one lousy decision. (It's also easy for a team to gain 56 points against a winless Southern team in a game played in the snow.) But your logic is poor. Like you, I thought SD should have punted. There was time. But if you had watched the game from beginning to end, you would have seen the adjustments McDaniels once again made to come back even stronger in the second half. Give the game ball to the Broncos defense, offense and damn good coaching. Before the game, the announcers were all titillated by the Chargers and made grand predictions of their upcoming victory. By the beginning of the fourth quarter, they were falling over themselves extolling the virtues of the "champion looking" Broncos. Nice try Geoff, but no cigar. (Rated late last night)
Now, now, Mary. The observation was not about YOUR Broncos. It was about San Diego. Like the Patriots victory, the other story happened to be how the Titans flat out quit. Whining about the Patriots getting 59 points and how they are an evil team that runs up scores belies the fact they pulled a lot of starters half way through the third quarter and didn't score at all in the fourth.

Norv is no Josh McDaniels, that is all.

Thanks for the feed bump, though. :)
ah, but the norv supporters will all tell you his teams start slow. i'm no norv supporter.
Oh man, Gwool, you're right on with this one. I think, or maybe I'm hoping, that Turner will be history by the end of the year. The biggest problem the Chargers have is no line on either side of the ball. Injuries. Sure, they've played a role but the Chargers just basically suck.
Remember, this is also the team that kept Rivers over Drew Brees! Another smooth move.
Norv will have to go because of that old philosophy in pro sports--you can't fire the team but you can fire the coach.
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Frankly, I'm still astonished Turner survived last year's meltdown. But I don't have anything against the bumbling incompetent; I was too busy relishing in the satisfaction of seeing Phillip Rivers ground into the turf over and over again.
I am starting to figure out what this post is about...it is about sports right?
It IS all about MY Broncos but your point is well taken. You could run football circles around me so I'm backing away. I have no problem with your Patriots running up the score. Since we beat them, it makes us look that much better! Here's another bump to the feed....
Squirrel: Well played my good man.

Walter: You nail it. Funny thing is the wikipedia spot where I found the basic record had a little disclaimer essentially saying that unsubstantiated criticism had to be removed. Seems fans (or anti fans) like to eviscerate the guy as fact. Facts need not be embellished when obvious.

Ashkw: Yeah keeping Rivers over Brees was the opposite result of Orton over Cutler, or Brady over Bledsoe. Oops. Brees destroyed the Giants, a team I thought was potentially the best in football right now.

Tai: Yes, it is about sports, grasshopper. :)

Mary: Do not be so intellectually rigid. Loosen up a little. :)
See what I mean about affirmative action for white guys?
Tom: In this case, yes.