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AUGUST 20, 2010 3:09PM

Skin Heads, "Whites Only," and Mosques

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The current dust up around the intent to erect a Mosque near 9/11 saddens me greatly.  It saddens me over the seeming insensitivity to it all to those deeply wounded by the events of 9/11.  It saddens me over the vituperative responses.  It saddens me over what I fear might be reprisals revealing an ugly underside to our culture.

I get the emotion of it all.  My parents were of the WWII generation.  My own mother had irrational contempt for the Japanese.  I heard it often.  She and I travelled past the spot where she and my father pulled over in 1941 as he was driving her back to Smith College to listen to the radio report of the attack.  I knew every time we neared the location that I would hear the rant.

This is my generation’s “Pearl.”  I watched the towers collapse on CNN with my son home from school sick.  I knew three people who perished.  I know of a mother who was watching on television while talking to her son on the phone until the line went dead and she watched the tower collapse with him in it.  I ache for her over this even though I have never met her, knowing only her husband from years ago.

So I did not like it, but I understood it.  I did not necessarily like Reverend Wright’s heated rhetoric around race relations, but can understand that as well.  Research indicating a generational divide around that in the African American community appearing in the Wall Street Journal around the same time Obama made his speech on race relations helped cement it.  I don’t recall separate lunch counters and likely few under 50 do.  Reverend Wright did.  I get it.  I do not like it, it hurts to hear and is hard not to personalize, but I get it.

And that is the problem with core principles and empathy.  Sometimes you have to simply tolerate what you do not like.

And this brings me to the comparison of the Mosque to the infamous American Civil Liberties Case from 1977 when it defended the right for a neo Nazi organization to march in Skokie, Illinois.  At the time, Skokie had a population of 70,000 and 40,000 were estimated to be Jewish.

Hurtful and insensitive, but the skin heads had the right to march.

And so private property owners around the 9/11 site have the right to erect what they want within normal building code guidelines.  A politically convenient act to bar construction of places of religious worship won’t fly.  It’s grandfathered.

So we as a nation have to let it come to pass.  It’s too strong a principle to violate to achieve a desired outcome.

It takes courage to live by principles when such principles insure an outcome we may find distasteful. 

Barry Goldwater was excoriated by the left and exalted by the right when he opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 on the grounds it usurped states rights.  Later in life he came out against federal bans on abortion and gay marriage for the exact same reasons.  He felt it usurped states rights.  Those who exalted him for this principled stance with respect to Civil Rights excoriated him as senile and soft when he applied the exact same principle in a way they did not like.

I would love to hear Rand Paul step forward and support construction of the Mosque.  He created a stir talking about private property rights that was conveniently spun into racist insinuations about segregated lunch counters.  Let him come out now and make the same stand on that principle when it will anger those who are his natural base. (I understand the principle to which he stridently hews, and wince at it.  I understand it.  But if it is that strident, then how can he oppose property rights now in this case?  All this proves is that Rand Paul is no Barry Goldwater.)

Freedom so integral to the core of our national being comes with a price.  We bristle at travel restrictions that are in reaction to terror infecting our shores.  We allow for free movement in this country.  We make it easy for a handful of folks to infiltrate, set up shop, and deploy tactics against us that violate the Geneva Conventions designed to protect lawful enemy combatants.

We encourage property ownership, individual liberty, and pursuit of happiness.  That happiness pursuit is up to the individual owning the property, not We the People in a collective fashion.

I want to believe the purity of intent for those seeking to construct the Mosque, but I have to admit to suspicion.  As difficult as it is, it has to be viewed dispassionately. 

It’s their property, it’s their call.  They can do with it as they see fit as much as what they wish to do saddens me terribly.  It is a true test of the loaded term tolerance to force yourself to apply it to something you find personally unsettling.

America needs to “walk the walk” now more than ever when it comes to the concept of tolerance that is the bedrock of the personal freedom we purport to hold so dear and which distinguishes us from so many other nations.

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"It takes courage to live by principles when such principles insure an outcome we may find distasteful."

Absolutely. And there are so many - family members of 9/11 victims, for example - who are exhibiting that courage now.

Rated and appreciated.
Well said . . . well said.
The relations you make here are right on.

You know what a bleeding-heart whiny liberal I am and I have to say, I still think this is a BAD idea. I don't think, even in the long run, it's going to heal jack crap. However, I do think they have the right to do it. That's the unsavory thing about freedom - if you give it to the people you agree with, you have to give it to the people you don't agree with as well.

Here's my worry though - so far all the shooting and bombing that has happened since 9/11 has been conveniently located in NotAmerica. I do not trust my fellow countryfolk to not do some of that over this Islamic center. Will this be the "powderkeg" that our grandchildren are taught about like the "Shot Heard 'Round the World?"

The truth (FACT) is that these people have the legal (and in my opinion ethical/moral) right to establish their place of worship on this private property without reprisal, harassment or fear.

I think it's sad that even someone like me sees violence coming so clearly on the horizon over this. Our only hope is that the extremist whackjobs who would try such a stunt are probably already convinced that the government was behind 9/11.

(thumbified for an excellent point of view)
Geoff: Subtly reasoned with a keen eye to history, which we forget at our peril. And these are perilous times. . .
Thank you for this!

-R-
Jeanette: thanks. It's easy for me to be non plussed by it. I imagine for those who lost loved ones it is jarring on many levels. My heart goes out to them. It sucks. What would it be like if near the Pearl Shrines in Hawaii something was sought to have been erected in 1951? A relative look back does nothing, but I imagine it would have caused a furor.

Don: Thanks. I know I am left of you and appreciate the sentiment here.

Nikki: Thanks. Knowing your involvement it means a lot.

Owl, Robin: Thanks.

Jodi: I do not know what is going to happen. They is going to be emotional, strident opposition to this and hurtful insinuations are going to get thrown both ways. It won't help, but, then again, it will be consistent with the current heated nature of what passes for political discourse in this country these days. As for violence? I sure as hell hope not. There could be some home grown militia types, to be sure, but I suspect the security is going to be pretty thick. One thing about an attractive nuisance is that it is easily recognizable and therefore easily worked around.

Jeremiah: The Goldwater take comes from a sympathetic biography written of him by a former staffer. But I remember well Dole standing in front of a fireplace at his home in 96 with Barry seated and looking somewhat out of it. Dole, in acerbic fashion that was his trademarked, was opining the rightward shift in the party. He had just lost the move to reinsert the abortion language that he, himself, had helped construct when involved in the RNC and on which Reagan ran in 1980 the first time around. Dole smirked that he had heard he was being called a Goldwater liberal by party detractors. As he said, if hewing to Goldwater principles made him a liberal, then he would wear the mantle proudly. We gain prejudices from our personal experiences. I know my mom's around Pearl. We can empathize with blacks of Rev. Wright's age based on widespread dissemination of what it was like in the 50s pre civil rights. We can empathize with folks scarred by 9/11. It's a big symbol what they want to do. They have the right, it's sad they see fit to exercise it is all.

Lady, Ode, Lulu: Thanks.
Well done, gwool: When viewing American history as what we value over what we actually do…It seems to me that America has always been real long on rhetoric but very short on substance. We do this by excluding those we don’t believe are American. (Examples, WW2 internment of Japanese Americans, Slavery, etc…Perhaps even now considering that the 2 percent of the richest Americans are of what decent??? Certainly not Mexicans, illegal immigration arguments anyone? maybe democrats?) R
Stellaa: Agreed. Principles are not a fickle, and those who view them ficklly are simply not principled. I have far more respect for a principled opponent than I do for a fickle supporter.

(Is fickly a word? If Sarah Palin can make'em up, then I can, too, I guess.)
And if you want to see a most eloquent defense of placement for 51 Park, go to the Daily Show website today to see Charlton Heston speak on behalf of the real estate development.
Grandpa: Thanks for reading.

Old New: That was a GREAT bit of video. I had forgotten the NRA thing around Columbine. Stewart can be pretty good with those things. Loved, too, the link odd linking he did to a fox command center.
I like that last graf, good finale. I do have reservations about the safety of those who would build there however. People can carry grudge. Common sense isn't always so common.
Well reasoned and well said, Gwool. Rated.
No one ever seems to talk about the hurt and damage caused to the muslim community of the US and the World by that handful of terrorists. I was living abroad when the Columbine murders occurred, found out on the way to language school. I was seated with grown men who had fled the wars of Boznia, Serbia, Yugoslavia, who had seen there villages burned, families killed who looked at me, American, with disgust, as if I had pulled the trigger myself.
Very thoughtful and well reasoned post Gwool. The cheap rhetoric, distortions, ludicrous analogies have been pretty dispiriting. Too many folks seem to have forgotten that they do have a better self. At least I hope it's only forgetting.
You nailed it, Gwool. I appreciate being reminded of the hatred toward the Japanese.

Maybe someday, the never ending hatred toward Black Americans will stop, but I doubt it.
You nailed it, Gwool. I appreciate being reminded of the hatred toward the Japanese.

Maybe someday, the never ending hatred toward Black Americans will stop, but I doubt it.
It's disturbing when we completely agree on something.
Excellent. Perfectly written. True.
This is really smart stuff. I find people too often stop thinking and start selling when they talk on politics. This is good writing because it reveals clearly something most people already know. Rated.
Gabby: The open issue happens to be whether they SEEK the violence against it as a way to enhance propaganda and anti-American sentiment within the Arab World, or if they truly mean what they say about wishing this to be a peaceful representation along the lines of "Muslims are people, too." That last might be a little glib, but you get the idea of what I mean, I imagine.

Oryoki: There is a reasonable rebuttal about the extent to which folks denounce "their own" in these situations. Some criticize the community for not being forceful enough in the denunciation. It's fair to assert. It is as incensing to me, frankly, as when anti abortionists remain silent when one of their own shoots up a clinic or when NOW stays silent on Clinton's indiscretions, for example.

Abrawang: In the age of rapid communication, sound bites prevail. This is a nuanced issue not easily lent to public policy articulation by jingoistic slogan. And BOTH SIDES do it as we increasingly digest our news in snippet fashion. The transcript of a nightly news broadcast is about 3/4s of a page of the New York Times, for example. How many read papers anymore? How many watch a news program anymore? How many news programs cover hard news, rather than soft "Entertainment tonight" infotainment, anymore? (Now get off my lawn.)

Xenon: I like to compare and contrast internment camps, which would appall us today compared to this relatively minor dust up in context. Not being allowed to build a Mosque is nothing compared to being rounded up and settled into tent communities. As to the issue with African Americans? I have a different take. Again, that referenced journal article speaks of a split within the african american community largely along generational lines. Younger are affluent and more educated and very much track like blended america in socio economic strata (not completely, but damn close) Older folks, not so much. Jesse and Al cater to that older demographic. The younger one bristles almost as much at inner city stagnation as the rest of the country. (But we have been down this road.)

Colony: Exactly. We have to stop selling and start thinking again when it comes to policy.

Jim: If we agree then each of us needs to rethink our position. :)
This was an eminently sensible post. And I should note that Ted Olson, whose wife died in one of the planes on 9/11, supports the right to build the mosque.
Your POV is dead on. Kinda taken about over the phrase 'lawful enemy combatants'. That sure sounds like an oxymoron.