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DECEMBER 10, 2010 2:38AM

Most Common Lies Men And Women Tell

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Another ditzy internet article caught my attention like a lighter flicked in the corner of the eye of an ADD-Addled teen whose meds are starting to wear off.  (I know this.  Two of my three sons tormented the other with this process and he could not look away, like the elderly couple in love with the Kramer painting on a Seinfeld  episode likely rerunning right at this moment in 13 languages on 96 cable channels.)

This one listed Dr. Phil's discussion about the top four lies men tell and the top four lies women tell.  The top one for each happens to be the same.  In descending order these are:

Women # 4: I’ve Got a Headache

I mean, really. How droll is this?  Who falls for that these days?  It is probably better than a snide snort and “You’re joking, right?”,  but this seems like such a cliché.  I mean, Henny Youngman dropped the joke in the 50s, didn't he?

I mean, whether true or not, ladies, you KNOW men are going to pout about it.  Why not at least try some stand up?

Consider: “I’m packing a Ginsu Knife, and channeling my inner Lorena Bobbitt.” Or

“I don’t think you’d be really excited about this unless you are into necrophilia and want to head out to 7/11 for some ice, but I’m game.’

Or maybe just, “I’m not in the mood, but when I am, I promise you will be the first to know” with a quick kiss before turning on the neon “Closed” sign.

 

Men # 4: Hey, I’m On the Way. (When he has not left yet.)

Well can I rationalize this one.  Men like to drive faster than the speed limit.  I am sure many men’s big brains, after seeking sage advise from their right hand man, the little brain, to whom they do not wish to administer with their right hand, they rationalize quite convincingly to themselves that saying they are on their way can still fly because, well, they WILL fly once they get on the road.

Rather than 10 over the speed limit, they will go 15 over the speed limit.

Never got this one.  Probably comes from project management/client management experience.  You got one shot at setting the new expectation.  Can’t reset your delivery/arrival time more than once without consequences.  Would the little brain would get this.

 

Women # 3  Oh This Was Cheap!  I Got It On Sale

This is another trite one, it seems.  In business the joke is that while you may lose so much money per unit of product, you hope to “make it up on volume.”  In a relationship it is likely around the amount spent, given sex and money are so typically pain points and triggers. 

It is counterintuitive to suggest “saving” money when “spending” money.

Or maybe it is to deny the notion of vanity, when what the motivation might have been was simply, “Wow, my [attribute] looks great in this, I have to have it.”

Then lie you bought it to show off said attribute to him.  Why not just say,  "I bought it because it makes my attribute look good,"  and  I like that."  Or "I bought it because it makes my attribute look good, and I know you are such an attribute man.  That will really make his day to think it was about him or for him.  Both genders like that.

 

Men # 3  No, That Doesn’t Make You Look Fat

Is this really asked?  Wouldn’t it be easier, men, to growl/purr and hug the lady while complimenting what you like regardless of what clothing adorns the area? Go for the pre-emptive expression rather than forcing the need to ask for reassurance?   And really, no jokes about “more of you to love.”  Nobody’s buying that one.

 

Women #2  Oh This Isn’t New; I’ve Had This Old Thing Forever

Again perhaps to a need to show frugality over vanity?  Who cares.  It would seem a reasonable reply would be to suggest they hang onto those old clothes as they look great in them and their bodies have obviously not changed.   Perhaps a line about timeless classics would be in order.

 

Men #2  This is My Last Drink

Oh can this one can have different meanings.  Is it the simple innocent one as a party is winding down as one person wants to leave and the other doesn’t?  Is it the knowing interchange between the spouse and a heavy drinker?  Or the tragic ending, or beginning of the ending when a troubled drinker has figured out the significant other wants them to put the bottle down and they better tell them what they want to hear? 

Is it the beginning of the movie classic Days of Wine and Roses, or the tragic middle of it?

 

Men and Women #1 I’m Fine, There’s Nothing Wrong

Well no surprise there, is there?  We all have issues with being truthful about our feelings.  Sometimes in an effort to shield others from a burden, sometimes to protect ourselves from attack from being invalidated for being troubled by something.  Sometimes simply lying to ourselves because we can't look at it, either.  

The delicate balance of knowing what to share and when, but certainly a damaging response to open and honest communication.  Our universal reluctance to share what’s on our mind for all sorts of reasons, both good and bad.

Conclusion

So women lie about feelings, clothing, expenses and sexual interest, and Men lie about feelings, alcohol intake, their opinion of their significant other’s appearance and their whereabouts.

All those issues seemingly at the core of healthy relationships.  Open communication hindered by our fears masked with lies.

And Dr. Phil makes big bucks for these vague looks at the obvious.

Is this a great country or what?

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Hey GW, you keep it up, because you have common sense, and yet, that isn't enough to survive either, but, we all just do what we are all able to do, and people here love what you write, me included, confused person that I am by the confusing, annoying, loveable nature of the reality that God gives us, I think, for sin, in the end.
Rated for reality, as usual over here.
Veronica: Seems pretty straight forward to me. Were any of those really surprising? We likely have all experience various utterances.

Don: Common sense is easier said than done sometimes. :)
One time my husband got busted using the "I'm on the way" lie only to be outed when I heard one of his buddies laughing in the background.. And he uses the "this isn't new, Ive had it forever" with tools he buys and tries to hide..which is hilarious because he's a mechanic and I never mind when he spends money on tools as they are essential to his bread and butter
I hit rate as soon as I read the headache line and laughed. Now since the coffee splatters have been removed here, I am still laughing.
Funny but true.
I liked the one about turning on the neon closed sign too. I need to remember that one.
Ok Time for Tasteless:
Two Pali Women in a Bloomies dressing room.
One says to the other:
"Does this bomb make me look fat?"
........................ fun stuff GW r.
Damn. I thought I was a woman but all my excuses are manly.
What now Gwool?
Fun! How about "Yes, of course I love you?" And, "No, I'm not married." And "My wife doesn't understand me."
It's fascinating to me how you describe all of the female lies as droll, trite and/or ridiculous, while at the same time being able to "rationalize" the ones men tell.

Yup, them sneaky, conniving damn women are just a bunch of rotten no good liars but, even though men tell a little white fib every now and then, it's okay for them... ::eye roll::
Any lie is bad karma.
Phew. I can still get away with "Honey, corporate raiders grabbed me and are holding me hostage at an undisclosed location. I should be home by Thursday."
White and Black: Yeah, I can see that. Tools are important in that profession, probably.

Mission: I was trying to use an analogy a woman told me as she was wondering aloud in message board thread why she was having a problem finding a person for a relationship opining that she didn't know why her "Taxi light was not turned on" that was an image that had me laughing. It was late, so I dropped it.

Jonathon: I have heard that one before.

Rita: Seek a dating website and run through the tests. :)

Lea: All fair ones, to boot.

Safe_Bet: A fair observation about the language. I thought of it, too, as I was writing. The "I have a headache" thing has been joked about for years and just seems old. But the second paragraph was not the motivation of the feeling as writing it.

Zanelle: Exactly. Damages trust.
I can honestly say that I have used all four of those lies and have had all four of the women's lies told to me:)
I have never lied to a woman. Okay, that's a lie.
Man, even our lies are cliche, ugh. I don't think most of those things exit my mouth, and I know better than to ask anyone if something makes me look fat. It's a no win situation, because we know if something is flattering to our figure versus just a pretty outfit that doesn't look good but we want to buy it anyhow. Having a headache would be a great reason to have sex, it can make it go away and give you a good night's sleep. Assuming the sex is good.
Rated

Wild, I've heard so many of these before. love your take on them.
Stim: Never saw the value in those kind of things, to be honest. I have enough trouble keeping track of reality to try to keep track of alternate versions to boot. Too confusing for all those voices in my head.

Roger: Well that was kind of my point about some of the ones used so often in stand up comedy routines. "Not tonight, I have a headache" is one and "does this make my butt look too big" being another. They are pretty universal just as difficulties in communications around wants and needs is pretty universal.

Blu: Axiomatic, my friend.

Oryoki: Yes endorphins are a great pain reliever ... so the assumption would most assuredly seem to be a very big if.

Steph: If we haven't heard them directly, we've heard them as jokes about relationships, that is for sure.
"Sometimes simply lying to ourselves because we can't look at it, either. " - been there.
I heard him read this list on some news blurb and immediately recalled where I'd seen it. It was in a Ladies Home Journal from 1955.
How does Dr. Phil wrangle the big bucks for consistently re-stating the obvious? I want a raise.
Loved the way you presented these, G.!
Most interesting lie I ever heard from anyone: "Yes. These eggs are fresh!"
If Gwool and Lea Lane had a show, instead of Dr. Phil, I would start watching TV again.