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FEBRUARY 2, 2012 3:36AM

"Where Is the Uprising from the Left?"

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There's no doubt that for the most part the media in America has been co-opted as an extension of both governmental and corporate interests. Truth is an undeclared enemy by both entities but an obliging public has no more interest in facing facts than any guilty child would. These are cold, hard facts.

The overseas press however has no fidelity to covering up our crimes nor do they see the "profit" we seem to assume from self-deception. It would be a fascinating Rorschach test to ask each American why we invaded Iraq and whether or not we should have ever invaded. Our actions have already revealed our true motivations simply by the sheer fact if we truly were misled we would have been outraged afterwards at the liars. But there was no outrage.

The evildoers in America have been given a free pass and they are having a field day as they find no one wants to know what they do. But the foreign press has no such reservations and oftentimes it's the best outlet for seeing a truer face of America. Der Spiegel (The Mirror) is a weekly German magazine with a long standing reputation for investigative journalism stretching back many decades. It's an outstanding source for inconvenient American facts and inconvenient American voices.


Here in the states it's people like the sick and twisted Alan Greenspan who continue to garner attention in what can only be described as an attempt to believe if we repeat our lies long enough they will become true. Francis Fukuyama of Stanford does not share America's eternal optimism (aka denial). Thus he doesn't sell well here in the land of the free (ride for the wealthy).

Below is a copy of his interview with Der Speigel, one that will enrage many on both the left and the right. For clarification purposes I think it's best to define the Tea Party and Occupy movements. Both movements agree that the redistribution of wealth is crippling our country. The difference lies in that the Tea Partiers claim there's too much transfer to the poor and the Occupy movement claims there's too much transfer to the rich. Apparently, only one group can handle simple math.

I'll give my take at the end.




Political scientist Francis Fukuyama was once the darling of American neo-conservatives. In a SPIEGEL interview, the author of "The End of History" explains why he now believes that the excesses of capitalism are a threat to democracy and asks why there is no "Tea Party on the left."

SPIEGEL: Professor Fukuyama, you are best known for your essay "The End of History," in which you declared that, after the demise of the Soviet Union, liberal democracy had emerged as the triumphant global model. Now, your latest research claims that the flaws of capitalism and globalization could endanger this democratic model. How do you explain this shift?

Fukuyama: Capitalism is the wrong word to use here, because there is not a viable alternative to capitalism. What we are really talking about is just economic growth and the development of modern economic societies. A combination of factors is beginning to challenge their progress in the United States. We have had a lot of technological change that substituted for low-skill labor and made many people in Western democracies lose their jobs.

SPIEGEL: Which is why countries such as the United States or Britain wanted to turn themselves into "service-oriented" economies.

Fukuyama: We have unthinkingly embraced a certain version of globalization that assumed we had to move very quickly into this post-industrial, post-manufacturing world. Doing so, we forgot that the whole reason real socialism never took off in the US was the fact that the modern economy seemed to produce middle-class societies in which the bulk of the population could enjoy a middle-class status. They worked in industries that were abolished in our countries and transferred to countries like China.

SPIEGEL: Even if members of the middle class held on to their jobs, they saw their income stagnate or even decline, while a few of globalization's winners at the top reaped outsize rewards. The level of income inequality in advanced nations is greater than ever before. What effect does that have on our societies?

Fukuyama: It is not good for democracy. If income is relatively evenly distributed and there are not very sharp differences between rich and poor, you have a greater sense of community. You have a greater sense of trust. You do not have parts of the community that have superior access to the political system that they can use to advance their own interests ...

SPIEGEL: … all of which undermines the democratic process.

Fukuyama: What you are going to see in a democracy with a weaker middle class is much more populism, more internal conflict, an inability to resolve distributional issues in an orderly way. In the United States right now, you do have this return of populism. It should be on the left, but actually most of it is on the right. If you talk to Tea Party members about their feelings regarding the government, they are very passionate. They hate the government. They think they have been betrayed by elites.

SPIEGEL: Americans, however, are beginning to discuss the problem of social inequality much more openly.

Fukuyama: They are slowly beginning to realize it. The recent public focus on inequality and the Occupy Wall Street movement are harbingers of change in that direction. The trouble is that in the United States it is extremely difficult to mobilize people around pure class issues. President Barack Obama was ostracized as a "European socialist" when he brought up the idea of higher taxes on the rich. These class debates are historically unpopular -- except for a very brief period in the 1930s during the Great Depression.

SPIEGEL: The latest financial crisis was often compared to the Great Depression: Why did we not see another case of the left wing rising up against the rich?

Fukuyama: I am at a loss, too. Where is this uprising from the left? This is a crisis that began on Wall Street. It really was rooted in the particular American model of liberalized finance. It hurt ordinary people tremendously, and it benefited the richest part of the country -- the finance sector -- which came through the crisis very well, thanks to government bailouts. You would have thought that this would pave the way for a rise of left-wing populism as seen in the 1930s. A Tea Party on the left, so to speak.

SPIEGEL: Could the Occupy Wall Street movement fill this void on the left?

Fukuyama: I really do not take this movement seriously, because its social base is extremely narrow. It consists mostly of the same kids that were protesting in 1999 in Seattle against the World Trade Organization -- anti-capitalists. The big problem sociologically for the left in the United States is that the white working class and lower middle class, that in Europe would be reliably social democratic in their political behavior, tends to vote Republican or is easily brought into the Republican camp. Until the Occupy Wall Street people can connect up with that demographic group, there is not going to be a big left-wing populist base of support in the US.

SPIEGEL: Has the crisis simply not been deep enough to achieve that?

Fukuyama: Ironically, because the Federal Reserve and the US Treasury acted to support the financial sector, the crisis did not develop into a deep depression with unemployment up to 20 percent like in the 1930s. Back then, President Franklin D. Roosevelt could restructure the big banks. I believe that the only solution to our current problems is to restructure all these big banks, Goldman Sachs and Citigroup and Bank of America, and turn them into smaller entities that could then be allowed to go bankrupt. They would no longer be "too big to fail." But this has not happened so far.

SPIEGEL: One could also make the case that President Obama was simply not as tough as Roosevelt.

Fukuyama: Obama had a big opportunity right at the middle of the crisis. That was around the time Newsweek carried the title: "We Are All Socialists Now." Obama's team could have nationalized the banks and then sold them off piecemeal. But their whole view of what is possible and desirable is still very much shaped by the needs of these big banks.

SPIEGEL: In other words, Obama and his influential advisors, like Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, are themselves part of the "1 percent" that the Occupy Wall Street movement rails against.

Fukuyama: They are obviously part of the 1 percent. They socialize with these Wall Street gurus. Goldman Sachs boss Lloyd Blankfein met with Geithner many times during the crisis. Such close contact clearly influences the world view of the White House.

SPIEGEL: But would you seriously argue that Republicans are any less close to Wall Street?

Fukuyama: Oh no. Republican politicians are completely bought by Wall Street. But the real question is: Why do their working class supporters continue to vote for them? My explanation is partly this deep distrust of any form of government that goes back very far in American politics, and is today reflected in political figures like Sarah Palin, which holds against Obama primarily the fact that he went to Harvard. There is a kind of populist resentment in US politics against being ruled by elites.

SPIEGEL: Even the Tea Party movement is largely financed by billionaires who represent everything regular Tea Party members are opposed to.

Part 2: 'Tea Party Activists Mobilize Against Their Own Economic Interests'

Fukuyama: The Tea Party is a genuine grassroots movement, so I do not buy into these conspiracy theories that rich billionaires initiated it. When you go to one of these rallies of Ron Paul supporters, they are very passionate. They all tend to be young, and they have just got this libertarian idea in their minds that the government is really the source of all of our problems. So I think the convictions of Tea Party activists are sincere, they are not manipulated by billionaires. But it is true that they mobilize against their own economic interests and for the interests of elites they should despise. I still do not fully understand why they do that.

SPIEGEL: Why can't Obama reach these frustrated people?

Fukuyama: The president never annunciated a vision of a different kind of economic order that did not just look like a return to a kind of classic big spending, liberal Democratic formula. The Democrats have never articulated an economic philosophy that is not just the return to the 1970s, big government and so forth, or the position of the labor unions which is very hostile to globalization.

SPIEGEL: What else should he do?

Fukuyama: I actually think that the German model should be a very interesting one from an American perspective, because Germany is still the second-largest exporter, but has done a much better job in protecting its manufacturing base and its working class compared to the United States. Somebody needs to articulate a strategy in the US that will say our goal is not to maximize aggregate income. It is to protect the middle class through an engagement with the world with globalization, but one that benefits the broad mass of people. No Democrat has really been able to do this.

SPIEGEL: Do you want the American left to draw lessons from former German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder's "Agenda 2010," a controversial package of labor and welfare reforms which overturned the classic social democratic model?

Fukuyama: What the Social Democrats in Germany have done is increase the degree of flexibility in labor markets and make the German welfare state more friendly to capitalist competition. The old traditional agenda that we are just going to have more and more social protection no longer rules in Germany, and that is a good thing. Part of the problem in Europe is that similar reforms have not happened in France and Italy.

SPIEGEL: Would that protection of the middle class include a new form of global protectionism?

Fukuyama: We should never have permitted the Chinese to deindustrialize a large part of the world. The Chinese have managed to play one Western country against another, stealing their technology basically. They succeeded because everybody in the West has got this short-term view saying: "I may be clobbered by the Chinese down the road, but if I do not make my money now, somebody else will get in. So I make business with them even if they rip me off." This view is very short-sighted. We should have been much tougher with China.

SPIEGEL: Could that trend still be reversed?

Fukuyama: It is too late, at least in the United States. We have lost all crucial manufacturing industries to China.

SPIEGEL: A feeling of helplessness also prevails in Europe. Every time EU politicians try to present new solutions to the euro crisis, they fail to convince the financial players around the world. Is political leadership still possible, given the outsize power of global financial markets?

Fukuyama: The political leadership problem stems not simply from the pressure by the markets. All modern democracies have a disease, which is that the democratic process tends to be captured by well-organized groups that are not representative of the general public. This is the whole problem with Greece. The pharmacists and the doctors and the civil servants and the architects, and every other social group in that country, has organized itself into a closed corporation that controls prices while largely avoiding taxation. They make a fortune, but the national bankruptcy is bound to happen.

SPIEGEL: Unelected technocrats and advisers from outside are now being brought in to reform the Greek system. What does that mean for democracy?

Fukuyama: If I had to bet my own money on this, Greece is going to leave the euro, because ultimately any outside intervention is going to be regarded by the Greek public as a non-democratic imposition of policies that they do not want. Greeks are just never going to behave like Germans, right?

SPIEGEL: Can Europe, in its desperate attempts to rescue the euro, still be democratic?

Fukuyama: The entire European project was very elite-driven from the beginning. The evidence of this was every time a country held a referendum where they voted against signing on to further EU regulation ...

SPIEGEL: ... that referendum was simply repeated.

Fukuyama: The EU elites said: "Oh, you just got it wrong this time. We will keep voting until you get it right." Virtually every European country now has got a right-wing populist party. They are anti-EU, anti-immigrant, and it has exactly the same cause, because there is a perception that the elites in Europe do not really address their issues.

SPIEGEL: Authoritarian systems, on the other hand, appear to be getting more and more popular. When German businesspeople travel to communist China, for example, they are enamored with the system there. They rave about how quickly important decisions can be made.

Fukuyama: I hear that from American businesspeople too. The Chinese system is particularly striking when you contrast it with Europe and the United States where you currently just cannot get a decision made.

SPIEGEL: So authoritarian China will emerge as the new global model -- which would totally contradict your thesis from "The End of History" that democracy has become the default option around the world.

Fukuyama: No. China is never going to be a global model. Our current Western system is really broken in some fundamental ways, but the Chinese system is not going to work either. It is a deeply unfair and immoral system where everything can be taken away from anyone in a split second, where people die in train accidents because of a rampant lack of public oversight and transparency, where corruption rules. We are already seeing huge protests in all parts of China ...

SPIEGEL: ... which Communist Party officials fear are reminiscent of the Arab Spring.

Fukuyama: When its leadership stops delivering the current level of economic growth, it has got this huge moral vulnerability. Liberal democracy still really is the only game in town worldwide, in spite of all of its shortcomings.

SPIEGEL: Professor Fukuyama, we thank you for this interview.

Interview conducted by Hans Hoyng and Gregor Peter Schmitz




Many refreshing points of view here. I do not agree with his assessment that capitalism is the only viable path. If he had said, "In my little pea brain, capitalism is the only way" I'd have no problem with that.

Also, like many prognosticators, he believes that contrary to all current and previous actions that people at large will at some point act in their own interests. However, that is only true as far as people are interested in taking responsibility. Hey, anyone up for apologizing to Iraq for unleashing death and destruction as we admit we only wanted to steal their resources?

As for the headline question I can only say that's the wrong perspective to take. It's not the job of the so-called left to stand for social equality, economic and criminal justice, and civil rights. That's the job of everyone. "Why isn't everyone uprising?" is a better question. Why didn't everyone join the Occupy movement? Do you really believe the answer is not known? If so, that's pretty damn funny!



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If things aren't working out for you, lie harder!
"It would be a fascinating Rorschach test to ask each American why we invaded Iraq and whether or not we should have ever invaded. "

We invaded for popcorn and lollipops! We heard Iraq haz them but wez couldn't find them!! I know, dumbasses, they should have looked in Saddam's box marked, POPCORN AND LOLLIPOPS right next to the WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION but hey, never said we were a bunch of smart fuckers!!

Should we invade someone else(s)?

Does a bear give handjobs to tourists in Las Vegas and possibly California?

YES HE DO!!!

I say we invade ourselves and get it over with!! :D
Tink, George Bush took my lollipop and Obama called him a patriot for that! I don't know why we invaded either.
The uprising will come if things get tougher. We still have our hamburgers and beer so there is no cause to revolt ....yet. Love the song with PP&M
jane, people who stand for policy and not for politicians very much are fringe players now. We found out who the true liberals were when the wars became Obama's wars and the rollback of civil rights was done by Obama and the kowtowing to the corporate interests at the expense of the middle class was also done by Obama. Suddenly, those kind of acts became OK as far as the left was concerned. And some people call that pragmatic!

zanelle, if we wait until the burgers and beer run out, it will be too late.
MY BEER HAS RAN OUT!!!

~marches on to Washington DC~

Sorry, what I meant to say, I STILL HAVE WINE, SO I'M OKAY!!!

~nods~

Seriously, I think the Uprising will be coming soon, wait, no, never mind, that was just gas.

We'll have to wait a few more years, for the Uprising to begin!!!

~wanders off into the thorn bushes~
Harry, thanks for printing that! I get Der Spiegel daily via e'mail. I read that article yesterday and passed it on to a few of my friends.
They also had a good one a few weeks ago about the "Republican Clown Wagon", and in it they also questioned how Americans could even consider such a group of losers!
IMHO, Americans have been so dumbed down by reality TV and Football, that they will believe anything they hear on TV. Which is why we are barraged daily here in Florida, by ads payed for by PAC's for Romney and Newt. I had hoped they would stop, after our primary but noooo! There was also a good article on Alter Net today, about the Tee Party. It spoke, of how it got started by a Wall Street insider in Chicago. How these fools were led to believe that they should support the very ones who caused the mess. I don't hold out much hope that there will be a great uprising from the left, but I keep my fingers crossed! rated
I probably would have missed this interview, so thanks for posting it here.
Interesting interview. I've never been that enamored of Fukuyama, but he makes some good points here, partiularly in describing the way we gave/sold our industrial base to China for short term profits. Our "best and brightest" are committed to policies that benefit a very few at the expense of the rest of us, and the rest of us are so ignorant and deluded we buy the lies fed to us without batting an eye. Where is the uprising from everyone? You might as well ask why cows don't have an uprising when the truck comes to take them to the slaughterhouse.
I just read somewhere you have a Tuxedo cat Harry. I always knew you were a 1% kind of guy. Tuxedos, Antarctic penguin fillet, platinum dildos. I bet you even buff those hospital floors with mops made from the flaxen hair of sex enslaved gurls from that Nordic reindeer herder tribe...um, ferget their name, dang, the rotted cardboard ceiling over my bunk bed in the Mission drips stagnant water, Chink torture style on my haid so...can't think straight! Oh, yes, I was going to say Harry, I got me a 220 pound gurl-friend at the flea market, so, eat yer heart out...wink
I see nana's here too. Nana's a barber, er, karpenter. Dat means he shaves the driftwood he carpents with first. If you want matchstick splints or stilts built fer you so you can tippy toe over those hospital floors while yer buffing them call nana at the 'Day Care' where he hangs out, carpentering...uh, that's what he calls it for his 'apprentices'...dubble swinkles
I applaud Fukyama for the courage to admit his once popular and widely acclaimed thesis was a crock. That takes intellectiual honesty and courage. Bully for him!

Anyone who wasn't on autopilot knew the "End of History" was an "Emperors New Clothes Scenario" scenario by 9:00 AM on September 11, 2001.

It's true! You are the Walrus. . . I'm Sparticus. . . I'm Sparticus
The main problem is that the occupy movement did not come with a good set of directions and leadership. You need to be able to take over and communicate in a broad way so that everyone who has an issue can participate. He is right about FDR and the depression, that was the universal motivator. There is something wrong with this movement. It remains too stagnant and the media too controlled. I am wondering lately myself about who to contact and start complaining and demanding action from. We are already so isolated from the figure that might be able to do something. The upside down politics around the issue is part of the disguise of potential and real leadership.
Sheila, you're thinking too small for Harry. It isn't about politics. It's about the HUMAN SOLE, er, soul. Harry knows that we are all to blame. With our petty selfishness, greed, callousnes toward each other. Harry of course is right. And Harry is also doomed if he really feels that kind of existential pain in the first place, on behalf of humanity and hizself. Harry needs to take HOLY ORDERS...and dat order don't include fries on the side...snicker
Tink, we have the power we just choose not to use it. Soon, that power will be gone.

Kenny, it's a great magazine, no doubt. But I'm sure it gets a lot of knee-jerk xenophobic reations here.

Jeanette, my pleasure.

Nana, I'd never heard of Fukuyama before. He seems a bit reactionary but I liked this interview.

steve, yes it does take honesty to keep an open mind. A liberal thing to do!

Sheila, the way I look at it is the Occupy movement did not fail, people failed the Occupy movement - much as the Obamanuts like to falsely claim. When you lead a horse to water and he fails to drink, I don't blame the person who took it there, I blame the idiot horse. No one can not make us idiot horses if that's what we choose.
I think we keep our heads down in he sand Harry, truly wanting to believe the 'false economy' will spring back up in full flower and all will be right and bright again.

I did not know how the US would benefit if the Eurozone collapsed. I made the mistake of not seeing it a rival to the US dollar.

But in the end we will all lose. Whether we admit what is going on is wrong, or continue to proclaim happiness is right around the next turn in the road...
How did you embed the entire SPIEGEL Interview rather than just the link to it?

I'm an observer reader, not qualified to comment on the piece, but thank you for it. ♥
Right there with you, Mission! It is written that in the end we will be doing what we've always been doing, as if nothing is wrong.

Fusan, I just copied and pasted it then tweaked the HTML a bit.
yes... "Lie Hard/er" coming to a cineplex near you,

starring... (?) just take your pick.
[r] as I was reading the interview I was blown away and the word "refreshing" came to my mind, too. yes, yes, yes. and as for the left rising, you are right. we all should be rising!!! but I gotta say the faux-left bullshit really has me down. the one percent of the world has exploited the 99% and the 99% are bogged down into learned helplessness to such an extent they refuse to acknowledge it, apparently, and in the US they go absolutely passive, letting the waves of craven media disinformation sweep over them, or their anger becomes manipulated by those who are the ones screwing them, like by the Republican brute monsters or the Democratic hipster-hypocrit ones.

Altruism and empathy is in such short supply at the top. Interesting that they were impressed by the efficiency of China's authoritarianism. In the past two years my low rung corporate job has become grizzly and grim in terms of the corporate militarization happening there. There is no room for community morale and extenuating circumstances that should be given compassion and empathy. Work life is cheap. One misstep and you are out. It is chilling. And it is a reflection of the big picture. Production is supposedly all (but the policy really works against that) and the ego-obsessed power-holding of management is reptilian and spiritually repellent.

Appreciate this, Harry. Thanks. libby
Thanks, Libby. It's nice to get away from all the mindless cheerleader talk and hear some honest thoughts, isn't it? If everyone were to start speaking honestly we could work our way through this mess but most people don't see a point to that and want to live in a fantasy world of a savior who bails them out.