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MARCH 3, 2010 11:20AM

Better To Be A Teen Mom? Author Hilary Mantel Says Maybe

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Award-winning British novelist Hilary Mantel has raised the hackles of her country's teen pregnancy prevention campaigners after an interview with the Sunday Telegraph, saying that the modern approach to childbearing has formed around the male life cycle, and that women may well be better off to have their babies much earlier in life....evenhilary-mantel in early adolescence.
 
"You know, I was perfectly capable of setting up a home when I was 14, and if, say, it had been ordered differently, I might have thought, 'Now is the time to have a couple of children, and when I am 30 I will go back and I'll get my PhD.'" she says in part. "But society isn't ordered with that kind of flexibility, and it incredibly hypocritical about teenage sex, teenage mothers and so on."

There were predictable howls of outrage, and Mantel was quick to say that she was in no way implying that girls should be having babies at 14 or 15. But there is substantial truth to her argument that "it is men's lives have set the timetable...[and] there is a breed of women for whom society's timetable is completely wrong."

Throughout the long centuries before the introduction of effective contraception (and even today in areas of the world where contraception is not readily available), women started having babies in their teens and early 20s. From a biological standpoint, it couldn't be another other way: we become fertile in our earliest years, and as recent studies have shown, we may lose that easy fertility when we're in our early 30s.

Now that the majority of Western women are fully engaged in edu cations and careers, we spend most of our 20s and 30s pursuing degrees and starting careers, and often end up putting off motherhood until our late 30s or 40s -- exactly at the biological moment when it is hardest. Complicating the issue, many professional women are penalized for taking time off to have children, and those who time out to raise their children during their most formative years frequently find themselves shut out of the job market when they try to return.

This is not to say that women shouldn't pursue higher education or careers, or that it's wrong to use birth control or delay motherhood until later in life. But, says Mantel, "[i]mitating men can't be the way forward for women. That way they are bound to fail."

Men and women both suffer by clinging to "the assumptions of a former era about how men and women should behave," she says. "We haven't thought them through, even though we have gone through huge social changes. "We have to think out our own way. I'd like to imagine we are doing it, bit by bit."

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I really thought this was a provocative idea, and not one that bothered me particularly. Great post, Heather. I'll be back to check out the discussion.
Children are much better off living with both parents. Teens are generally not ready to marry or commit to a long-term relationship.

Most women who are fertile have way excess fertility. For the average woman, fertility might be on the wane in her 30s, but she can get pregnant pretty easily. The story changes in a woman's 40s, and for some, late 30s.

Nevertheless, the vast majority of women can put off child-bearing until after her 30th birthday without any negative consequences.
I'll throw this question out to all you ladies who might stop by:

At what age did start feeling like you wanted to be a mother?

For me, it was around 20 or 21.
As a high school teacher, I can tell you that the vast majority of teenage girls are not and would not be capable of raising a child. Many of them find it difficult to remember to bring a pen from their locker to class. Most of them cannot commit to participating in a school activity for an entire year without changing their minds. And they would not have any financial security.

I think it is valid to say that society is forcing women to wait too long to have children, but it is hyperbole to suggest that teenagers should be having them. It would certainly be better if our society made it easier to have babies in at least the mid to late twenties.
Hm. Not sure what to make out of this lady. I think she is naive at best. I was a teen mother - granted not 14 but 18 when I had my daughter 21 years ago this year. I would rather have flipped this scenario she suggests. If I could have the exact same beautiful, hilarious, smart kid I have now, but just have postponed her birth until say, last year, that would have been my preference. Thx for the post as always! xx a
This is a very provocative question. Certainly, physically, girls/women are most fertile in their teens. But the idea that teen moms are mentally/cognitively/financially able to go beyond physically reproducing and bearing children and actually raising them as early as 14 is a hard one to believe, at least for most people. Even to isolate the question to a financial perspective, how is someone who is not even finished with school supposed to raise a child? To answer your other question, I started to think about having kids around 30, but it may have been earlier had I not been so exhausted doing my medical training. If I had to do it again? I actually would have started earlier, but I would not have had much time to spend with my kids, because of my education/career. I certainly would not have been capable as a teen.
I am not a woman, I am a man so my opinion already means less but in the times and places that she mentions life expectancy was and is around 45 years. That made teenage pregnancy a must not an option. Now with greater life expectancy and more options available to young woman to say the idea of waiting to have children has formed around the male life cycle I think is wrong
A couple hundred years ago, wasn't it common for women to have kids at 13/14 and isn't it still happening fairly frequently here in the US and in other countries?

Not saying teenagers should have kids, just pointing out that it used to be the norm and is not uncommon even now.

I wish more women would chose not to have kids. They're bad for the environment, especially first world children.
I think Mantel has made a very astute observation. Physically, a pregnancy is a lot easier to carry when you're in your late teens, rather than in your mid-thirties. However, having a child during teenage years is acutely challenging financially and socially, thus women postpone childbearing for later in their lives, when they are socially and financially secure, but when pregnancies are a bit more difficult to attain and carry. They are setting their childbearing behavior along male reproductive behavior, which may not be in a woman's best interest from a physical stand point. I can't help but compare my 36 year old acquaintance pregnancy with her 19 year old niece's pregnancy. Guess who whizzed through the nine and a half months without amniotic fluid leaking, water retention, fear of gestational diabetes, and legs the size of small elephant trunks? Modern medicine helped my friend quite a bit, but her body took a drubbing.
It is a provocative idea. My mom and most of my aunts had children young in their 20s, then went back to school and work when their kids were in school, when the challenges of balancing work and family are easier. In addition to more fertility, one advantage of having children young is that their young grandparents can help take care of them. My grandmother was only 47 when I was born and lived 40 more years. If young mother had you at 40 and you have your first child at 40, that child is not likely to have active, involved grandparents.
I so desperately wanted to start having babies in my teens, but waited til mid-twenties. My mom was a teen mother. She was sweet, full of life, she played. She was done child raising at 40. In retrospect I wish I hadn't put so much effort into college training I would drop in favor of mothering when the time finally came.
Scooterdude brought up the fact I was going to mention - if you're going to die young, you need to reproduce young. I didn't even want to have kids until I was 30, and I had my daughter when I was 33. No problems whatsoever.

I'd also like to respond to RSG when she says the younger you have kids, the more likely there are grandparents around the help care for them. That's assuming you live anywhere near the grandparents! My daughter is 14, her grandparents are 86 and 87 but don't travel and we live half a country away.

Finally, if having children is important, perhaps society should do a much better job of working around WOMEN'S clocks and not men's. Novel idea.
I see her point, but I think she has ignored some huge realities. Was she ready at 14 not only to make a home but to parent a child *and* make a living? Do we know of a lot of high-school dropouts who have a wonderful quality of life? Having children at 14 or 18 "works" for a woman if she has a trust fund, a partner or a parent willing and able to support the family. If that support does not exist, or if it is withdrawn (and we all know what the success rate of early marriages is), this idea almost guarantees her and her child to many years of poverty and extreme stress, which surely negates all of the "health benefits" of bearing a child at what some people believe is the peak of a woman's reproductive fitness.
I don't think Hilary Mantel is advocating teenagers drop out of school and become unwed mothers on welfare; she's talking about the biological reality that women not only find it less physically challenging to conceive earlier, but they also have more energy to raise their kids. Also when they're younger, their own parents have more energy to help out and there might be siblings on hand as well. Later on, those resources are less available because the parents of a mother in her 30s/40s are themselves aged and have their own needs, while siblings will be married with their own children.

Considering how many people take until their late 20s to hit on their career goals, it makes some sense to have kids earlier, and then hit the career path, rather than hit the career stride and face enormous penalties and difficulties when you decide to step away and raise children. It is something worth considering, especially as so many mothers today are facing the nightmare scenario of dealing with teenagers while also looking after failing parents.

The difficulty in all of this is how much less mature men are at this age, and also how unwilling to have children.
As to whether the teen years are a great time to start a family or not, is not the point. The writer's message is simple: don't take past norms as gospel. It is ironic we can purport ourselves as free thinkers, masters of our own mental domain, when in truth slavery to outdated or emotionally harmful assumptions have surreptitiously clipped our wings.
Her assumptions are bizarre. Does she have teenage children? They are not less work when older but many times more work. Also when one has these children sometimes they want to go to college. That costs money. Where would this money come from? No one should be having children when they are barely if at all beyond childhood themselves. I thought that women and men do not fully mature in their brains until about 20. Why do they need to have children when their own brains have yet matured? Pregnancy is hard on the body robbing it of calcium etc. and if one is still developing as in growing taller that is not helpful. She is off her rocker.
This is provocative in the best sense. It goes against the grain of our society but raises important questions about our values. Rated. Thanks for posting.

I have a few friends who delayed having children and then faced great physical obstacles once they were ready to turn their attention to family. As one friend said: "We spend our 20s trying not to get pregnant and our 30s-40s trying to."
I understand what she's saying from a purely biological point of view. But women are more than our wombs. That's what we've been trying to say for a long time.

I know daughters of two different mothers who gave birth to them when they were teenagers. Both mothers poured guilt into their daughters for ruining their lives.

Fantastic reporting, as always, Heather.

To answer your question in the comments section. I've wanted to be a mother, and acted like one towards my brothers and my friends, for my whole life. I'm still not sure that I'm ready to biologically have my own baby. The whole pregnancy thing has always freaked me out.
It's much too simple an approach to a very complicated life choice. Once you have a child you are a parent forever. You can't just turn that off to place your mental power towards an education. But once you have that education, the mental power can be diverted to start a family (in many cases) and then employment lined up according to the family's needs.

Children are life-long decisions, and we are now in a position to make those decisions rather than leave it to fertility. Teenagers are not of a state of mind to make these choices, they can't even make decent decisions about tattoos and drinking! Very few are capable of making a living, some can't even drive yet (depending on actual age and location). Yeah, 50, 100, 1000 years ago it was different, but then isn't now.

At 30 I know what I didn't at 20, I fully understand what I would be getting into with a child and I require a means of caring for said child before making that decision. No teenager grasps that, they simply don't have the experience with their own health care, transportation, education, and financial decisions to make them for another human being. It's not that a teenager can't be a good parent, it's that it isn't practical in today's world for them to think they could be the parent they would be if they waited 10 years. Biologically we may peak early, but mentally it takes another decade or so. Nevermind the fact that a person isn't even able to make their own legal choices until they're 18 or 21 (and can't rent a car until they're 25), how can they be responsible for another human being? Society has shifted from teenage responsibility, biology just hasn't caught up.

Mantel is suggesting we should be slaves to biology, and that women should be slaves to their fertility, considering the effect their education and career choices have on their ability to have children. There is so much more to women than the ability to reproduce. For women to move forward, we need to move past fertility as the standard of determining a woman's importance.
What she said makes sense. But people are not longer dying at age 40 (in developed nations) Still though, the peak fertile years (15-25) are called that for a reason.

Sure, we shouldn't be slave to our "clocks" but jeez we can only mess with biology so much before things become dangerous. (ie 60 yr mothers)

Interesting topic.
I remember well the comment I made to my husband of only a few months, that I didn't want to become a mother until I was at least 24 or 25. He was trying to talk me into going off birth control and having a baby when I was only sixteen (yes, and married). What was I thinking? He had just come back from basic training in Fort Ord, Ca. While he was gone I knew for sure I'd made a terrible mistake and told him I didn't want to be married anymore. He cried like a baby (he was 21), I felt guilty and 3 months later I was pregnant. This whole thing was obviously done for the wrong reason however we made the best of it and I turned out to be a damn good mother. I went back to school at night during the pregnancy, he worked two jobs. We seemed like responsible kids at the time. But, if I had it to do over again the only thing I'd change is to continue my education (I stopped after 2 years of college). This was back during the 60's. I'd been the oldest of five kids and basically held down the fort while Mom worked and went out on the town. She was only 36. She did the best she could (as we all say). And I guess my kids have said that about me at some point in time. But the teens of today are immature for the most part and spoiled. I think it a very bad idea for teens to be mothers today.
I was 17 when my oldest nephew was born. I remember loving him s much. One time, when I was changing his diaper (something I frequently volunteered to do) I heard myself say, "he inspires my maternal instincts." (Yes, I was precocious.) One of my aunts responded, "He'd better not inspire them too much. You're nowhere near old enough." She was right in the sense that I wasn't ready to support a child financially, but, if I'd had someone else to pay the bills, I would have been a great mother at 17. Now I'm 47 and have never been "ready" in terms of financial security. I work with kids and I'm at peace. But, in some ways, I wish I could have been a teen Mom. I might have grandchildren by now...
So many people don't understand basic statistics. Life expectancy is an average. When many children didn't make it to their fifth birthday, that drags the average way down.

For example, my great-grandmother gave birth to 14 children. 7 survived past age 5. Most of those lived into their 80s. 80x7=560; 7x2=14; 560+14=574; 574/14=41. The average life expectancy for my grandmother's generation was thus 41. Note that everyone who made it past age five lived to at least 70.

This is one of the reasons genealogy is interesting. You find out what a sample of people in history really did.

For women, after childhood, the next challenge was surviving childbirth, which might be harder in the teens or 40s, but giving birth at 18 or 28 doesn't substantially change your risk of a difficult birth.

People had no need to start reproducing early because of a low life expectancy. However, in the days before wide-spread and effective birth control, there was strong societal pressure on women to not have sex outside of marriage and failure could lead to a woman's life prospects being ruined. This created a strong incentive for marriage at a younger age and without birth control, marriage lead to children.
You are forgetting the other part of the equation. In societies where girls are encouraged to marry and have children very young, they are not marrying men of the same age. Yes, that helps with the financial stability, but do we want our 14 and 15 year olds to be hooking up with 30 year old men? Remember Jane Austen's Emma? She was 20, her perfect match was about 38. In our society, most women prefer being with men close to their own age. We have some unflattering names for women who date so far outside their age range for financial security, and for men who date so far outside their age range to hook a young babe. We also marry later in life to limit family size, even with the availability of birth control. girls who marry young tend to have much larger families.
I've also come to learn that our fear of infertility in the late-30s has really gone out of whack with reality. Did you know that for women under 35 the chances of conceiving within 1 year of trying are about 85%, while for women 35-40 its 75%? That's not a huge drop. 1 in 5 mothers in the US are now having their first kid after 35, so, very very not impossible. Infertility is talked about like its only a problem for those of advanced maternal age, but the reality is at least 15% of couples of any age will have trouble conceiving.
Pregnancy complications can also come at any age, but teen moms have a much higher incidence of low birth weight babies, contributing to higher infant mortality rates.
So, should you have kids at 14? Yes, if you want to marry a man significantly older than you so he has financial security already, or if you want to have as many kids as the Duggars. Otherwise, its okay to wait.
I admit I am playing devil's advocate here. One advantage of having children younger (20s, not 14) is that you have far more years to help make the world a better place because of all you have learned as a mother. My mother and my aunts became teachers, social workers, health advocates after raising their large families.Thirty years after she retired, I still meet people who remember what a wonderful teacher my mom was.

I do think motherhood teaches more important lessons than college, business school, law school or the typical corporate career.
Provocative, indeed. I see Sendintheclowns has already commented on what the other side of this equation would be: Old males-teen females. Not a scenario I hope our society turns toward. (Older sperm is also associated with increases in mental health problems for their children, btw.)
I am a mother, but never wished to become one as a teen. Did become a mother at 23, sooner than originally planned.
I think condemning teen moms actually creates a lot of the problems they have. I was 18 when I had my oldest and wouldn't change a thing. Humans are the only animal that waits until they've been fertile for 20 or more years before reproducing. Raising kids takes energy, resourcefulness and flexibility, all of which teens have aplenty. if they weren't stuck in boring classrooms being force-fed government and corporate propaganda then they wouldn't be so helpless. Life ROCKS and there's no reason being a teen mom should be a problem for anyone. There's always ways to make money, always ways to save money and the only thing that REALLY hurts these families is our culture's prejudice and age-ism. My husband and I were high school sweethearts and now we have 6 daughters. (None of whom has currently indicated the desire to reproduce, for the record) The story of my teen pregnancy was published in Rethinking Everything Magazine, in case you wondered :)
I would think that having kids at a young age is not going to rank well in this era. No doubt adolescents are well capable of having kids and people do have kids earlier in the olden days, it just isn't much the same in current times. Young people nowadays should be mentally prepared and learn to be a builder of a family first before even thinking of raising children.
It is a fine line to tread to be saying that having a baby as a young teenager is a good idea. Of course there are thousands of mothers who would argue until they're black and blue that this isn't a good message but be putting out there... But hey, everyone's entitled to their opinions and it's interesting to read it from her perspective!
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