Hells Bells

Hells Bells
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Book editor, parent, MFA in poetry from a land far, far, away--and a long, long time ago . . . I'm not a psychologist, but I play one on TV.

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MAY 8, 2010 5:01PM

What Kind of Mother Do You Have?

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IF YOU PLAY the video at the end of this post, you'll see Charles Collingwood interviewing the psychologist Harry Harlow for CBS. Harlow ran the primate lab at the University of Wisconsin in the 50s and 60s and conducted the famous wire monkey/terry-cloth mother monkey study we know from Psych 101.

 

With  Mother's Day coming up, I can't help thinking of those little baby rhesus monkeys. They took nourishment from the wire mother, but they clung to the terry-cloth mother for security. They needed contact comfort just to survive. 

 

They needed much more than terry-cloth to become proper monkeys, of course. As Harlow discovered, they needed real mothers who would feed them, cuddle them, teach them, and push them away when they became too big. They needed the society of other monkeys, too, but more than anything else, that early relationship with mother made them the monkeys they were meant to be. 

There's something else that comes to mind this close to Mother's Day:  the concept of the "good enough" mother. The developmental pediatrician Donald Winnicott observed that mothers who hovered didn't give their babies a chance to learn to regulate their own emotions independently. Mothers who were indifferent  had babies who were in a way like Harlow's unmothered monkeys--eventually they just gave up. Mothers who struck a balance of "imperfect" mothering had the most well-adjusted babies. 

So here's to all of us imperfect mothers and children of the same on Mother's Day: Let's remember to give each other a hug and, when we do, hold onto the thought that sometimes all things have to be is good enough. 

 

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And let's get some damn flowers, too!
"Mothers who struck a balance of "imperfect" mothering had the most well-adjusted babies"
Thank god!
But then there is the discussion of what is "well adjsuted"?Good to see you HB
I'm in a BAD Mother's Day mood. Thanks for giving me a platform to tee off of.
My mother was indifferent. Only noticed if I were right in front of her and that was because I was then a target for her passive-agressive projection.

In her dotage she still does the same sh** but now it is aimed at my 9 year old when my back is turned. Today is a prime example. She wanted to take my son to go Mother's Day shopping. On their way out my child claimed with joy, "I'm taking my Lego catalogue to read!" "No!" she said. "Why not?" I intervened. Emboldened, my son interjected with a child's sing-song voice, "I'm sitting shotgun!!" "Not with that catalogue," my mother demanded.

Happy Mother's Day to a mother who has no concept of what nurturing and loving is.
Interesting take, HB. Here's to being a "good enough" parent--and to allowing our kids to be "good enough" too.

And, yes, flowers, too!
Well, I must say in fairness, I've been an imperfect child.

A round of flowers, and this one's on me!
Oh no! Since I was, of course, the Perfect Mother does that mean our seemingly well-adjusted Perfect Grown Child is a secret serial killer?

Great post. As the daughter of a child shrink, I can So relate... I was raised on those monkeys. Just the right take for Mother's Day. And yes, FLOWERS ARE MANDATORY!
So all we need to be is perfect at being imperfect? Lots of wiggle room there. Definitely deserves flowers.
My mom seems to keep waiting for me to become the daughter she really wanted... but that's okay, my kids seem relatively normal and I guess the same could be said of me!

I'll take the terrycloth monkey and flowers, please.
My mom was simply the best. I will be forever grateful for her... :))
imperfect mom, pretty well adjusted here!
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I bought myself some flowers today just in case my kids forget.
I'm buying myself an orchid tomorrow, if no flowers come through. The hardy kind--the kind that need imperfect care. Thank you all for your comments and warm thoughts.
This is good news, indeed!
I got lilacs from my yard. These lilacs came from a shoot from a hedge in my mother's yard. They are imperfect, they are messy, they leave unattractive brown pods after bloom time is over. They are like my mother, and like me.
Imperfect rings a bell.
I relate to that - I perceived it as indifference at the time. Now I see just how busy the woman was. Never hovered, I'm so grateful.
She's 94 now, and close enough to perfect, for me.
Apologies are big at my house, too.
Ah that delicate balance of imperfection. Love, isn't it.
When I had my daughter I was the first in my social circle composed of most of the practicing psychotherapists in our small town. I remember trying, efforting, to be better than my mom, to try to correct all the mistakes. My friend Mandy said brusquely: You're not going to go and take away her right to unresolved issues to air in therapy when she grows up. She NEEDS your imperfections. Never forgotten that. Winnicott saved me I think, my children too.
Here's to all us fabulously flawed human beings who happen to be mothers!
I love my kids too much to ever feel like I was a "good enough" Mom. I'm always wishing I could be a better one.
Interesting, sad. How do fathers figure into this? For Rhesus monkeys I guess not at all. I never thought I was a hovering mother, but now that my kids have grown up, it's very weird. My mother was a good enough mother, I guess. This is something that got me thinking about something besides my own life, for which I am grateful.
I am of the age and time (old and rural America) when kids were not hovered over much. I still don't hover much but my daughters do. Any surprise the grandkids like to come to Patie's where all kinds of cool stuff happens that would never happen in their home Happy MOther's Day, Ya'll!
Well, no flowers yet. My 16-year-old gave me a hard time about having to go to work this morning. Haven't heard from Ms. 20.
Mothers are the greatest just by their very title.

My mother knows I love her. I'm proud of that.
the kind of mother i have ...
was the background noise of my childhood
the guilt giver of my teenage years
the silent approval-giver of my young motherhood
the silent disapprover of my failing marriage
the pleasant companion of my middle age
Hells Bells,
My childhood was particularly eventful, but I still think of my adoptive mother on this day. The distance from all that imperfect mothering helps the rest of it to fade away. All that I choose to revisit are mostly the happy memories and leave the rest behind.
V
Good enough is good enough. And yes, throw some flowers at it!
Beautiful stuff. My Mom was all terry cloth. Been gone for years, but I still wish I could hug her sometimes. Everything was okay when she hugged me, and she hugged me a lot.
Having taught psychology for 30 years including about that famous study many, many times, such research says so much to we higher primates. Yet, what do I see and hear all the time to the point I could just scream?! Parents who allow babies to cry and cry and cry. And no, babies don't "just cry". They have no other means of communicating their needs, their distress, etc., for God's sake!!!

I held and carried mine as much as they wanted, among other applications of psychology, and find now that the greatest gift to a mother is hearing from her children that they are happy in their own skins and wouldn't change anything about themselves, nor do they want to be anyone but who they are!

God, I'm proud of myself!
I tried to do my 'science project' based on the Harlow experiments (back in 1892). I ditched the entire thing, including the video and enlarged photographs my father had gone to great trouble to procure for me, into the guts of the sofa where they rested for 15 years, until my ever-frugal mother decided to re-upholster the thing. (there was a Bolo paddle and some reefer in there too - I had sibs - not one of us agreed with the corporal punishment meted out by the paddle and I still wonder whose MJ that was?!) The tragedy was Baby 106. I'm not an activist, but I could not watch this horror - much less present it at the science fair. The Baby gets the flowers in my book.
The Mothers Act was passed as part of the health care reform bill. That means that we women that ain't perfect, or no let's say, haven't a damn clue how to be good moms, will get help being adequate moms, and may even avoid being wretched moms, because even some wretched moms did the best they could, albeit selfishly at times, but through the haze of depression, what more could be expected?

As the child of a depressed mom and one who certainly had struggles being a mother herself, what differentiates me from my own mother is my choosing to face those struggles head on, even and most especially the rage. I love my mom dearly, and though in her ripe old eighties she hauled off and belted my sister about a year ago , I still love her. I hate her rage, hate how she feels entitled to it, but for whatever reason I was born to her I am grateful for being her daughter, welts on my butt and all. I've learned a lot.....Strange.

Hope you got those flowers you deserved. (I did.)
"Good enough" gets a bad rap. It takes a lot of work to be "good enough" at anything!
Accounts of this experiment have always made me profoundly sad. I had never seen the video.

I will be happily imperfect today, even if I might have erred a bit too much on the side of IM.