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An odd young woman from South Carolina who joined the military after 9/11. I am an active duty service member stationed in Miami. Completed a double major in History and Political Science from Rutgers University. Trying to decide whether or not to pursue a Masters in Public Adminstration, Strategic Intelligence, or Bioscience; or even continue another undergrad program in Molecular Biology and Biochemistry. BACK from a year deployed to Afghanistan. Avid Progressive Independent (LIBERAL) and Obama supporter "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Benjamin Franklin (On the PATRIOT Act centuries before those idiots in Congress co-signed on it)

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DECEMBER 9, 2008 5:54AM

Do Progressives Think We Became Sweden on Nov 5th?

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Okay, I read alot of Andy Sullivan and other blogs (listed on the left) but now Megan McArdle makes the list.  She wrote EVERYTHING I have been thinking about all the "Chicken Little" type reactions to Obama and his appointees.

 I love it!  The best line is modifed as the title of this blog LOL.

Megan writes:

I don't understand why these articles keep getting written.  Moreover, I don't understand why they can keep getting written.  Did progressives really think they'd woken up in Sweden on November 5th? 

Liberals are growing increasingly nervous - and some just flat-out
angry - that President-elect Barack Obama seems to be stiffing them on
Cabinet jobs and policy choices.


Obama has reversed pledges to immediately repeal tax cuts for the
wealthy and take on Big Oil. He's hedged his call for a quick drawdown
in Iraq. And he's stocking his White House with anything but stalwarts
of the left.


Now some are shedding a reluctance to puncture the liberal euphoria at
being rid of President George W. Bush to say, in effect, that the new
boss looks like the old boss.


"He has confirmed what our suspicions were by surrounding himself with
a centrist to right cabinet. But we do hope that before it's all over
we can get at least one authentic progressive appointment," said Tim
Carpenter, national director of the Progressive Democrats of America.


OpenLeft blogger Chris Bowers went so far as to issue this plaintive
plea: "Isn't there ever a point when we can get an actual Democratic
administration?"

 


Not if you define an "actual Democratic administration" as one that is closer to OpenLeft than the median voter, no.  Take comfort that we're probably not going to get an "actual Republican administration" either, for the same reason. 

For a movement that grew out of the anti-corruption campaigns of the late nineteenth century, and was nurtured in the hothouse built by domestic Communism and Socialism, modern progressivism seems curiously unwilling to think about, much less cope with, institutionalist models of politics.  Enacting legislation is not a matter of getting a president and a fillibuster-proof majority, unless you happen to have a congress filled with career-suicide bombers.  It is a matter of getting a fillibuster-proof majority and a bill that either no one cares about, or is supported by close to a majority of voters.  (Actually, it's much more complicated than that.  But as a general rule, this simple model is much more effective than believing that shortly before electing Barack Obama, America collectively read Gunnar Myrdal and shifted about 20 points to the left.)

Occasionally, you can get politicians to buck the will of the voters when the matter is serious enough, as with the bailout.  But this is very rare.  And when you do buck the will of the voters in order to do something that most economists agree is vital to the health of the nation, apparently, many progressives get mad and say ridiculous things:

Liberals are growing increasingly nervous - and some just flat-out
angry - that President-elect Barack Obama seems to be stiffing them on
Cabinet jobs and policy choices.



Obama has reversed pledges to immediately repeal tax cuts for the
wealthy and take on Big Oil. He's hedged his call for a quick drawdown
in Iraq. And he's stocking his White House with anything but stalwarts
of the left.



Now it's Obama's Cabinet moves that are drawing the most fire. It's not
just that he's picked Clinton and Gates. It's that liberal Democrats
say they're hard-pressed to find one of their own on Obama's team so
far - particularly on the economic side, where people like Tim Geithner
and Lawrence Summers are hardly viewed as pro-labor.


"At his announcement of an economic team there was no secretary of
labor. If you don't think the labor secretary is on the same level as
treasury secretary, that gives me pause," said Jonathan Tasini, who
runs the website workinglife.org. "The president-elect wouldn't be
president-elect without labor."



He also wouldn't be president-elect without the drivers who piloted the campaign bus, but this is not a reason to make bus drivers the central concern of his new administration.  Frankly, the knowledge that there are such lunatics out there, but that Obama is ignoring them, has heartened me greatly.

Mostly, though, it's just dire warnings that he couldn't have been elected without progressives, so he'd better not bite the hand that feeds him.  This sort of ridiculous posturing pervades every post campaign let down.  Oh, yes, Barack Obama couldn't have been elected without progressives.  He also couldn't have been elected without lower-middle class Moms who like to drive to Wal-Mart in their SUVs to buy enormous flat-screen televisions for the family room.  Guess which group is larger? 

First rule of politics:  small groups get favors from the politicians they support only to the extent that it does not annoy large groups who voted for those politicians.  Check the progressive agenda.  See which bits do not annoy large groups who voted for Obama.  That is what the progressives are going to get.

The other group who is in denial, of course, is the conservatives.  While the progressives are shocked, shocked that Obama hasn't made Bill Ayers attorney general and Ingrid Newkirk Secretary of Agriculture, many of the conservatives who were mad about my supporting Obama continue to assure me that he is making card check and confiscatory taxation the centerpiece of his administration.    Maybe the hard conservatives and the progressives should be consoling each other.

Touche Megan...I'm with you.

Siobhan

322pm, December 9, Kabul, Afghanistan

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I'm a hard-core liberal (of the dreaded Massachusetts variety) and I think Obama's are, by and large, quite good. I'm so happy that he's appointing qualified *adults* to our government again.

If I'm one thing more than I am a liberal, I'm a pragmatist. I want people in government who can get shit done, not people that just agree with my ideology. In the same way Black people voted for Obama because he is a smart mama-jama and highly qualified to hold the office of president and not based simply on his race, I want smart and effective leaders in key positions, not just people who are identical to me intellectually.

I might quibble with a few minor appointments here and there, but I'd never moan that the liberal sky is falling because of Obama's picks. It's time to get practical.
His economic picks bother me. These guys rode shotgun on the deregulation that started this mess. Bob Rubin is a toad but O's cabinet is filled with Rubinites. And Volcker? Rode shotgun on Reaganomics. Granted, who better to fix something than the people who broke it. But I think our economic problems have moved far beyond our ability to repair them by simply balancing the budget.
COREY!!! You are man after my own heart. That is exactly how I would describe my view of this...I want people who will get shit done. Their job is to carry out the President's policies and if he's confident they are on board then let's go!

James...they broke it...and they know how they broke. They looked for the little loop holes to do it so who indeed would be better to fix it? I think a budget is something we are not going to be able to think about for the next couple of years. At least the debt would be to improve America vs. lining the pockets of someone who is already obscenely wealthy.
"At least the debt would be to improve America vs. lining the pockets of someone who is already obscenely wealthy. "

Indeed.
Add me to the list of pragmatists. I have my idealist side, but I am most interested in effectiveness. I don't much care what your ideology is if you can fix this economic mess and make some real headway on the other serious problems we face.

Obama is the first candidate in my voting lifetime (that's 32 years for those of you keeping score at home) that I have been able to wholeheartedly, enthusiastically support. I've been slightly puzzled by this, and I've finally figured it out. He is putting together a brain trust. And that is exactly what we need right now. Smart, thoughtful, well-educated people.

This is an absolutely great post, Hip. Not just because I agree with you, but because it is smart and well written. Thanks.
Once again, a great post, Hipployta.

I am getting tired of asking my liberal friends to cool it. The guy has not even taken office...and is being counted out as a traitor and a failure by the people who most should be offering their support right now.

Amazing that so many people who faulted Bush for not being more non-partisan in his choices are now faulting Obama for being party and ideology blind in his selections.

I want the best people...and I want people who will offer a counter opinion advising him. HE WILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. But unless he gets people around him that will offer arguments for the other side of all questions...he will be as blind as Bush...something I do NOT want to happen.

Great post; great observations.

Keep your head down! Lots of shit happening around you. Come back safe. We need people like you a whole bunch right now.
What do *you* know? You're not even in America. You're not fighting the *real* war, which is between Democrats and Democrats. God, the nerve of some people.
Oh I did not write this. As much as I would to take credit for it Megan McArdle over at The Atlantic posted this a couple of days ago. I was writing a rant similar to this and when I read hers...I just said this is perfect.

We are all practical and pragmatic because this not the time for "head in the cloud" delusions. This is a time of action and to get things done and Obama is putting together a team to do that.

All the people who complain about him not doing enough this or that way and calling it treason blah blah blah fail to see they are being as nutty as that "Impeach Obama" crowd...who are pretty out there.
Hipployta,
My wishes for you to stay safe and be back soon.
Like Frank, I have dipped my pen into this issue and am pretty disappointed that this issue is being treated in the same-old, same-old method of carping from a standpoint of their own personal politics. Perhaps they have been trained to think that their job is to criticize the President--(ie "keep him honest") so they abandon any nonpartisan thinking of practicality.
Other posters have said--"Get over it, the revolution didn't happen". I am not sure wtf they expected. It is revolution enough to have an intelligent, capable and honest man leading us again. The world is exploding and imploding; we need new thinking and that is what Obama is giving us.
As far as I am concerned, these ones are on the wrong side of history and I am going to let them talk to themselves from now on.
Rated and you stay safe now, hear?
O’Stephanie’s comment about “these people” being on the wrong side of history, reminds me of something I have written about American conservatism on several occasions.

They HAVE been on the wrong side of the major issues that have confronted us as a nation.

Back in revolutionary times, American conservatives (mostly in New York City, as it turns out) were called Tories. They were the ones saying, “King George III is our liege Lord to whom we owe fealty. Revolution is Treason!”

During the Civil War…American conservatives were the ones advocating the rights of states to individually determine whether slavery sould continue to exist.

Ya gotta wonder!


And whether you wrote it or found it and brought it to our attention...my comment holds: Great Post!
MTN...LOL, I am on the sidelines of the Democrat on Democrat War...I have been for the last two years because I'm not a democrat (registered at least LOL)...Indie type.

O'Steph...I do my best to stay safe which is all you can really do. They are on the wrong side of history...I guess their out of luck LOL

It continues to amaze me how quickly dissent is associated with treason...the Bush Jr. years showcase that idiocy clearly