Keys to Babel

FEBRUARY 9, 2009 5:28PM

Sorry Newsweek, We Are Not All Socialists

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we-are-all-socialists-largeNewsweek has spoken.

The New Deal, FDR and bloated government are all the rage, as liberals, err, progressives, Kumbaya with their socialist idols in Europe. Reagan’s model for economic growth has led to economic failure, and last November, Americans voted for big government, for change. Completely ignored, however, is the ironic position staked out by the Italian and French President who look to cure the crisis by spurring growth.

They understand it, because they’ve lived it. Tax hikes and expansive government will only solve one problem: how to shrink the GDP. Last week, in the face of a couple million screaming communists, err, socialists, President Sarkozy stood strong.

This from Bloomberg:

French President Nicholas Sarkozy defied calls for more aid to consumers, saying his 26 billion- euro ($33 billion) plan to spur investment will cushion a deepening economic slump and increase productivity.

Sarkozy, who last week faced the biggest protests against his policies since his 2007 election, told a nationwide television audience late yesterday that he would cut a business tax by 8 billion euros next year, while he stuck to proposals to trim civil-service jobs and curb spending on hospitals.

Sarkozy’s television appearance last night, where he took questions from four journalists, marked his response to Jan. 29 demonstrations. The police said 1.1 million people protested, while Confederation Generale du Travail, the second-biggest French labor union, put the total at 2.5 million.

“I must listen to protesters,” Sarkozy said. “I also have to listen to all those who didn’t demonstrate, those who are working and who are suffering as well.”

A survey before the protests showed 55 percent wanted Sarkozy to press ahead with reforms, according to TNS Sofres, a Paris-based pollster that asked the question on Jan. 27-28.

In Italy, Berlusconi’s government is focused on providing incentives to consumers who buy anything from cars to furniture.

I’m not familiar with global bond markets, credit default swaps and other crucial factors in the current crisis. What I am familiar with is socialism, and despite the proclamation in this week’s Newsweek, a socialist, I am not. Liberals like Obama remain fixated on the Europolitics of the past, the Veltronis of the old continent. President Obama's recent note to Veltroni, a 'reformed' communist opponent of Berlusconi, promised a continued friendship with the United States. One small problem. Veltroni isn't the Italian Prime Minister. Conservative Berlusconi is, and he's waiting to receive his first note...

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I don't think most Americans are socialists, even the ones who say they are. From what I am led to understand by most commentary that I've read, a socialist is anyone who believes in some kind of social safety net and opposes tax cuts for the rich. That isn't exactly my idea of a socialist. Bloomberg isn't an unbiased source on these matters either.

I would be curious to know about your familiarity with socialism as you understand it.
Great post on current event(s). rated
I must have missed it. When did Obama say he was going to take away the right of private citizens to own property? That is one clear definition of socialism. When did he say that the private ownership of the means of production and distribution was being eliminated? That is another textbook definition of socialism.
Thank you so much for your post!(rated)
This is a subject that burns my ass.

Why are so many Americans so freaked out by the thought of our country pouring much needed money into our healthcare and education system? Socialist? Bah! I am always amazed when my students here in Germany remind me that they pay nearly nothing for their university educations. The average education of the French and German kids is far surpasses ours. Want to know what my health care is like here?? I can't imagine moving back to the states and looking down the gunbarrel of old age in my own country. That is beyond sad. Socialist society? America???
I would laugh if were not so tragic.

What the hell do we actually get for the piss little taxes we pay in the U.S.? I am from the D.C. area and last time I was back I noticed how shitty all the roads were. We are talking the nation's capital! I can't imagine what the rest of the country looks like. Infrastructure health is vital to any economy.

Yes, I pay a shit-load of tax here but it is MUCH less that what I would pay for a quality education and quality health care in the U.S.

Before the big O (no, not Oprah. or Orgasm, jeez you people have such dirty minds!) came to town I never really thought our country would or could change it's narrow definition of "socialized medicin". I hope we can.
Emma, my familiarity with socialism began in 2002 when I moved to Europe, where I lived for four years. Unions, strikes, high taxes, socialized health care, restrictions on employers making it difficult to fire, thus difficult to hire, all come to mind when I think of what differentiates a socialist country from a capitalist one. And if you think about it, we in the US have safety nets. Medicaid, Social Security, disability and welfare are all safety nets.

And the 'tax cuts for the rich' opposition in socialist countries really doesn't work, because most wealthy, and even middle class Europeans, have Swiss accounts or pay in cash. Luxembourg and Switzerland are tax havens for Italians, Germans and French. In my book I tell a story about a friend of mine who used to make frequent trips to Switzerland with cash hidden everywhere from the baby's car seat to under his hat.

Socialist medicine looks good, and everyone always says they'd pay a little more taxes, but would they? A 20% VAT tax, an income tax far more painful, lower incomes, smaller houses, lower standard of living? Could they really do it?
So, because there are scofflaws in regards to banking, that means the entire project is worthless? Huh.
Even a Single Payer plan wouldn't be socialism, nor those supporting it socialists.
It's one of many political terms used for its emotional impact, not actual meaning. It sets up an either/or mindset that thinks it's that, or capitalism. Anyone who can be led around by a label can be walked into a wall.
I wrote something about this last post.