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JUNE 14, 2009 2:54PM

Today's Fashion Makes Me Look Pregnant

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When we go to the outer banks of North Carolina, we love to visit Belks department store.  Maybe it's because it's at the beach, but they always have such interesting clothes there.  I usually find dresses, skirts, blouses in styles and colors that just aren't available in my usual haunts here outside the Washington DC area.

DC is a workaholic place to live.  Someone must have decided that neutral colors rule here.  This year is a little more colorful, but it's pretty boring color wise.  In NC, colors rule.  I always look forward to that shopping trip. 

So this year, I got my nieces and mom and we drove up to Belks.  I was so happy when I walked in the store.  The color palate was so bright and lively! Then I started picking clothes to try on.  There were lots of hippy looking skirts - broomstick pleats with increasing layers.  Too young for me, and very much too long.  There were a few knee length skirts with wide pleats, not very flattering.  There were many, many blouses, and every one I tried on made me look pregnant.  

I'm not a big girl, but I have a big chest. A shirt gathered at the neckline fans over my breasts and balloons over my waist to my hip.  Empire waistlines never allow enough space so the seam line often runs across my chest and the gathers below balloon in a most unflattering way.   In the dressing room I struck up a conversation with a woman who said she was done with childbirth and would never buy maternity clothes again - she wasn't buying anything. She was of a more average build than I.   I asked a sales clerk if she had heard complaints from customers.  She responded that many people were telling her they didn't like the way the clothes made them look pregnant.

I usually spend somewhere between $100-250 in that store.  (That's a lot for me, I'm a tightwad.) I walked out with an $11 tank top.  

This experience isn't limited to Belks, I found the same styles at stores near home, but I was so hoping Belks would do better for me.  Such a dissapointment!

So what gives?  Did retailers decide that the look of the moment is pregnant so all items they put on the racks have to be that way?

What I find interesting is that maternity clothes currently celebrate the bump.  I rather like this, there's something very wonderful about a stretch top that shows pregnancy with pride.  

So if I'm not pregnant, I should want to look pregnant?  No way. 

 As they say on the Fashion Show, I'm just not buying it.

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I just got 2 shirts from old navy (8$ on sale! (magic words))
http://oldnavy.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=48429&pid=653444&vid=1
and yeah, I completely look pregnant, but they are very comfortable.
I'm with you 100%. We need a revolution. I'm 42, hate to shop and have money to spend on clothes. I don't want to look like my 20 year niece and I certainly don't want to look pregnant. My biggest laments? Poofy cap sleeves that cut at the fattest part of ANY woman's arm but make mine especially snausagey, empire waists!! be damned!! I don't want anything touching my ribs. Not even when I was a reed thin 9 year old. Whatever happened to a bias cut body conscious but not hugging drape? And lycra in everything that isn't a mommy top can give a sheen and bounce light off of every flaw you've got. Some of my tshirts can even show a MOLE under them...and that's just a bad fabric choice.

I've even written letters to Target, Macy's and other retailers. I don't want to shop at the Big Girl stores...they have the same crap just giant. Who thought grown women wanted to look like little girls? I blame Hollywood. Emaciated morons and their teeny tees and little dogs. I mean the rest of us surely don't want to emulate that do we? I want my fashion icons back. Where's Audrey Hepburn when you need her!! Interesting post...rated.
Several years ago, the fad was jeans with pre-made holes in them. I vetoed them for my daughter, who thought they were cool (plus, her main fashion idea is that something I don't like has to be good). I didn't buy jeans that year. My husband went to Gap, where they have all sorts of jeans. He pulled out one pair, Holes. He put them back. He pulled out another style. Five styles in, a saleperson came over. He inquired the size and then pulled a pair of jeans from a bottom shelf back in a corner. Guess what? No holes. Obviously, the salesman had seen tons of customers do the same thing. I don't think they've had their whole range have holes since.

I hate clothes that make me look pregnant. I don't buy them, no matter how cheap or comfortable.
I thought I was the only one...
This situation is probably because so many more women are overweight these days compared with years ago. I used to hear women complain that clothes were made for those who are pencil thin. Now it's becoming the other way around.

Some women look pregnant when they really are not but wear tighter clothes. I'm sure what you saw is the clothing people responding to that.

Personally, as long as she is proportionate, I'm fine with her.

Hopefully these larger tops are open and loose and creeps like me can see in or down at a good angle.
If you think Belks will make you look pregnant, try Walmart.
Thanks Julie, I looked at the link you posted and that's exactly the style that looks so terrible on me.

Ms. M, I'm ready to revolt. You are so right about the fabrics being so unforgiving, especially those cheap looking paper thin knits.

Malusinka, I remember the holey jeans trend. It was also tiresome.

Mr. London, you're such a guy. Yes, because of the way they are cut, boobs are the emphasis and in my case, it's embarrassing. We are in general fatter than previous generations; but nobody wants to look fat. Or pregnant when you're not.

Another rant - many of the tops are cut so low that we've grown to expect that we need to wear a camisole under them in order to be presentable . What a joke!
It's the 'belly fat'. It's become epidemic. Even on me (ha!). No, I mean, I need to lose some poundage, I got a big ol' ass and when I need to lose weight - like now - it's in the usual places. But this 'belly fat' I'm starting to see Everywhere on Everyone, some greater than others.

I'm thinking it's not just couch potatoing. I think it's fried food, fast food, processed food, corn syrup, all come home to roost. Even now, I pop a teeny 'organic' brownie from downstairs cafeteris. Is the fine print on wherever it came from going to say corn syrup? I'll bet it does.

Excuse me, I got to go do my crunches now.
If you have a bit of money to spend, check out Eileen Fisher..if there is not a store in your area, she has an online store and her clothes are also at Garnet Hill catalogue. Her clothes are simple, stylish, for a variety of ages, in colours or neutrals. You can receive email updates from EF and get a few catalogues a year.http://www.eileenfisher.com/scripts/ecatalogisapi.dll/group?group=1126054775&Template=9990000001013050; http://www.garnethill.com/jump.jsp?itemID=9140&itemType=CATEGORY&path=1%2C2%2C4477%2C9140
I hope looking pregnant is not the new black. I'm a vertically challenged woman who carries extra pounds and is a DD. I really relate to how annoying the seam right across the middle of my boobs is and wonder who is making this clothing and why!
I like to dress comfortably and some things are too low cut for my taste and puffy short sleeves are not for me.
How about some nice, well made clothes that fit right and are comfortable?
If we stop buying these silly frocks maybe they will get the message and start finding out what we want!
I am so in your "amen corner." This is one of the many reasons I buy nearly all my clothes in thrift shops. I am a bit unfashionably voluptuous (size 10-12 depending on the garment style and brand) with a somewhat larger than average bust and a very small waist (the latter being the part of my body I'm most comfortable displaying.) I refuse to wear anything that hangs off my bust like a circus tent, while completely obscuring my waist. Fashion be damned. I'm not pregnant and I'm also not six years old. Fashion-consciousness is for brainless lemmings!
Lands End, Eddie Bauer, LL Bean? Limited, conservative but at least LE has popping colors this year, ordinary shirts, sweaters and t-shirts in decent fabrics, good range of sizes, really reasonable prices etc etc. The new thing the past two years or so is different fits - how snug/loose, rise of pants.

hth :)

I especially hate despise revile those baby-doll styles, the puffy, banded sleeves especially. And every damn thing seems to tie in a bow in the back. Really. Who wants that? I know I'm a woman and I don't need to flash boob or frouf myself up in little girl styles to prove it to every random person I pass on the street.
I have the same problem with boobs so big that the "waist" sits on top of my boobs instead of under them.

My pet peeve, though, is shirts that are too short and show skin unless you keep your arms at your side at all times.
I actually love the empire waist. I cannot deny it.

But high waisted pants, if they come back I will simply refuse. ugh.
No matter what one's size, the empire waistline looks awful on everyone. I can't for the life of me imagine why any self-respecting girl would want to look pregnant if she isn't. I love fashion and I also believe that we should wear what is most flattering for our individual body types, and to hell with the latest unflattering fad!
Oh goodness, so glad there are others who feel the same way! I'm on the small side, but I look pregnant in that stuff too . . . and why would I want to? Been there, done that. But look at the bright side: lack of temptation is good for the pocketbook!
I, for one, am happy that clothes are finally being made that aren't designed to look two sizes too small (think "Friends"-era shirts with button plackets gapping away...) or midriff-baring nonsense which plagued anyone over 35 for almost a decade.

Knowing how to do alterations (or being willing to pay minimal fees for them) is helpful...if you choose your clothing size based on something other than ego (as in "but I've always been a size 10!) it's possible to find clothes which will fit with a few alterations.

Best advice I've recieved in years is to buy clothing which fits your "trouble areas" well, and alter the rest so it fits like it was made for you. Most dry cleaners have someone who does alterations for very reasonable fees (think $10 to alter a skirt or blouse so it fits right) which puts well-fitting clothes within reach of just about anyone.

I've been losing a lot of weight in the past 6 months, and made a deal with myself that I wouldn't spend a lot on clothes until I reach my goal weight in another six months or so..... The compromise for me is to buy inexpensive clothes (think no more than $10-20 per item) and alter them to fit (meaning no more than $20-30 per item) That way, I can re-alter as I lose weight, and wear clothes I like that fit well.

Hope this brightens your day.....make the best of what can be very forgiving styles if worn in the size that actually fits you, rather than trying to squeeze into "your" size, whether that's size 2 or size 20.

We're all more than just numbers!
I'm one of the few fans of the empire-waisted styles, but only those done correctly. I only like the styles where the shirt is still slim-fit through the torso (and not billowing out as to simulate pregnancy).

You may be someone that can wear the trends that I can't - belts and layers. I admire all of the photos of the effortlessly chic ladies wearing a thin, unbuttoned cardigan over their tank, with everything cinched in the middle by a cute, skinny belt. Since I'm very high-waisted (and with very little "waist definition" to speak of), this look simply doesn't work for me. No need to draw attention to that area, so I'll stick with my empire waists and cap-sleeves!
Hey! What's with all this whining? Mama Cass was a wonderful vocalist and downright cool person. It's about time her fashion sense was celebrated. California Dreamin' indeed.

I myself (being of the guy gender) am studying Michael Moore for couture ideas.
So, what happened to the stretchy dresses and skirts that can be worn by anyone? Pregnant or not.

I admit to being a huge Jane Austen fan, but there is something wrong with having all of these empire waists foisted upon us. [In those Regency days, women were pregnant so often... perhaps they needed them.]
Yesterday I experienced the latest nightmare in life - shopping ! When I read this article this morning I wanted to jump up and down. I just attended my 40th high school reunion and thankfully, managed to purchase some great (but VERY expensive) new outfits. I was feeling so good about holding my own with my classmates, that I thought it might be time to expand my ancient closet of classics....BIG mistake. I too experienced the 'preggers syndrome" and crept out of two stores to find the nearest rock to crawl under. I hope someone from the fashion industry reads this article and added posts because this is reality. Money is tight and if the fashion is not friendly, it is going to stay in the stores.
Thank you - thank you- thank YOU!!!!!
Gawd yes. Empire "waists" (which are actually "underboobs" or, as you point out, "across-the-boobs") work only on the least endowed of my sistren.

The rest of us need and deserve other options.

Also, may I point out that the maxi-dresses are cute and all, but it'd be nice if somebody made one that allows for bra wear underneath? The O-ring Halter Neck construction is adorable if one can get away without breast scaffolding; what are the rest of us supposed to do?
Chico.. great styles.. colors and prices.. all put together ..they have a style called Travelers that roll into a tight little ball and then viola. unflod without a wrinkle.. you can take a weeks worth in a large handbag.. the jeans FIT.. they have SHORT.. no teenage "preggy look" maybe the look is because so many teen agers ARE pregnant..or want that "Bristol Palin" look. take heart.. this too shall pass.. meanwhile .. try Chicos... a HUGE bonus.. most of the customers are over 30!!! and they have an online site to order from.
All you whiners...what goes around comes around. As a very short-waisted person, the "empire" is a godsend. I absolutely LOVE it. I am medium busted and this style is extremely flattering to me. I just bought a lovely lavender sleeveless dress at J.Crew that is empire waist, but it has reverse pleats under the bust and makes my waist look so tiny. The key is to NOT have a huge "boof" or "bell" right under the boobs. If you look at the ORIGINAL "empire" gowns from the "regency" period" (Take a look at "Sense and Sensibility" with Kate Winslet and Emma Thompson) the skirts are no more than "A" line...really rather straight. That's the key.

When I at my absolute thinnest (not at the moment)...I have a pretty small chest...the "empire" is the revenge that we "small-chesters" and "short waisters"get for years and years and years of things that bag and sag and are WAY too long. I love the "empire"!
Not every empire waist is created equal. The trick is to find a top that only a TINY bit of extra fabric below the empire waist, not a lot. The bottom of the top should be A-line, no pleats or folds or gathers. I have managed to find a couple of them at Macy’s and though I carry every extra pound on my belly, these tops disguise it quite nicely. Any other empire waist, and people are asking me if it’s boy or a girl.

I’ve also discovered that cheap places like WalMart should be avoided at all costs. It’s better to have a few pieces that fit, than a lot of pieces that don’t.
...and, I'm sorry but both Chico's and Eileen Fisher are your granny's clothes. Eileen Fisher fabrics are lovely and natural but they are huge and drapey and not at all feminine if you aren't at least 5'8"! and Chicos has horribly LOUD prints and granny jeans...even if they do come in "short" sizes. OUCH!
The fashion in question is not in response to numbers of overweight women (the last acceptable prejudice appears to be for these persons). No, these fashions are retro mid-1970s and intended for young, skinny girls on whom it sometimes looks adorable. The empire waist is not intended for women of a certain age; in fact, fashion has never given a hoot about women of a certain age.

I was one of those skinny young things in the mid '70s and loved the pinafores and empire waist blouses - in addition to looking cute they were very comfortable. But they went out of style and I put them away, later wearing many of them when I WAS pregnant.

But I do agree with the majority here. My friend and I walked into Macy's a few weeks ago and were completely appalled at the ugliness of the colors. They were so loud that it didn't really matter what style the clothing was. So, I'm with most of you here: I'll be waiting until the style changes to buy any more clothing.
I echo the same sentiment about these modern "maternity tops." Because of the high rate of obesity in this country, the fashion industry is trying to compensate. Bigger bellies from our American diet and that ridiculous food pyramid mean we can't fit into our clothes anymore. The fashion experts still want to make money off us though so that's the best they've come up with thus far.
Rated. I used to be able to find clothing that flattered my curviness. Now, unless I'm shopping at a thrift store, I'm coming home empty handed. Don't even get me started on shoes - I'm like the princess and the pea when I have to shop for them.
Count me in as one of the high-waisted girls for whom empire-waist styles are a God-send. :-) Love them!
Vogue, McCall's and Butterick know the score...

and are actually helping to organize home-sewers on the internet.

In fact, I hope that some guilty department store buyer is reading these comments.

Here! Read this and weep!

That is exactly what you are driving your greatest shopping demographic in history to...
Eva T., I'm so sad that size 10-12 is unfashionably voluptuous. I'm a few sizes up from you and my ideal is a size 10. I love curves!
I was shopping at Macy's in San Francisco the other day and voiced my dislike of the styles and colors to a saleswoman. I had clearly hit a nerve -- she went into this rant at how the clothing companies send what they want to send, without regard to feedback from sales staff or, apparently, anyone else. Which, as this thread attests, results in lost sales for the store -- an especially irresponsible thing to do in this economy.

So how do we let clothing companies know what we think of their wares? Not buying their clothes doesn't seem to do it.

Rated!
Heck no, they don't make us look pregnant today! Today, if you're pregnant, you wear really tight clothes that make you look like a snake that swallowed an egg. If your pregnant "outie" belly button doesn't show through, your clothes aren't tight enough.

But yeah, I've had the same thought. Even though I always swore I would never wear "hatching jackets" again, I buy the stuff because my middle is a bit thicker than it used to be and these tops conceal it. (And yeah, I do get the irony!)
Barbara Anastasia: I'm going to check out your blog - hope you write about alteration techniques! If you don't, you should - I can make clothes from "scratch" but alterations - apart from the simplest ones - hems, skirts - stymie me. I am ... ummmm ... sizable and for years have worn and loved clothes that suddenly this year feel (and are) way too big. I have no idea what happened but something did, my perceptions have changed in a big way. I don't want to, can't afford to throw away wholesale, need to do some altering or change the way I wear things.

I wore empire waist dresses in high school (mid 60's) but my mother made them and they fit with the seam under the bust and not so gathered. Loved them. Wouldn't consider them now. If everyone looks pregnant does anyone? :)

And whoever said "heroine chic" - thanks for the chuckle. I know it was a slip and you meant "heroin", right? Love the resulting irony - or whatever it is.
you'd think with retail sales slumping that clothing manufacturers would get the hint....we don' t like what you are selling. Apparently not!...It doesn't help that most garments are manufaured in Asia...
Empire waists work for me, I am medium busted and size 6 BUT my upper legs are not ready for prime time... so why are the only choices a maxi dress (which drags like crazy on stairs) or a mini?? Where are the flowing summer dresses and skirts that come down beneath the knee? Other than the peasant look, they have disappeared...
I have a beautiful blouse from the clearance rack at Target that I wore to work whenever my pharmacy smock was at the cleaner's - until a Russian customer told me warmly, "Oh how happy, you're having baby."

But I decided later that it made me look no more pregnant than the smock did.
oh so rated!
I DO have a few of those empire waist shirts, but without the billows, that look normal on my 42D with a waist and a belly short and chubby body. They are XL, so the seam DOES land below the boobs.
You know what is hippie chic and works? Tunics. I know, I know - next thing I'm going to be suggesting muu-muu's ala "Maude". But no, really - a nice tunic with a lower cut neckline REALLY works.
Hides the belly, accents the waist, hides flabby upper arms, does justice to the boobage - and they come in every kind of fabric and color!
But the essential complaint resonates with me - why does shopping for clothing (especially when you are willing to spend some money)have to make us feel and see ALL of our supposed inadequacies?
I love the story of the sales clerk, (above), commisserating with the commenter about the clothing companies.
As for women who love the empire waist - yay! It looks good on some women, and it's fab for you! I'll be the one giving you the woman nod when I see you looking great, sporting your empire waist duds.
As for the commenter dissing Chico's and Eileen Fisher - to each their own. I seek out Eileen Fisher clothes at thrift shops (can't afford it new) because they fit, and they look good on my aging self. Chico's - same thing. I can't afford to shop there, but I have two dresses and two "yoga pants" style pants that really fit. Plus, they don't disintegrate in the wash, like most other brands.
As soon as I get home, of course, off goes the bra and most of the clothing - I revel in sagging in my own stretchy, worn out favorites. luckily, we never get surprise visitors!