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SEPTEMBER 22, 2009 7:37PM

Much Ado About Masturbation

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Masturbation.  There I said it. I'll say it again, masturbation.  Honestly, it's not a pretty word, it doesn't roll right off the tongue.  It is so clinical sounding.  It sounds more fun when you say things like "jerking off" or "wanking" or "diddling" or"two finger taco tango."  Doesn't it?  (Here's a list of more fun ways to say you're defiling yourself with your hands!)

 Anyway, all the recent hubbub (and Tinkertink's clear addiction) reminded me of a book I bought a number of years back at a garage sale.  It's a handy little book published in 1927 called Sex Training In The Home, Plain Tales On Sex Life Covering All Periods And Relationships From Childhood To Old Age, by Winfield Scott Hall, M.A., M.D., Ph.D. (Talk about credentials!)

I decided that you all could benefit from a refresher course on the subject and am taking it upon myself to reprint here for you an excerpt from the fine Dr. Hall's manual.  This excerpt is from the chapter on Home Instruction In Life Problems.

... to impress upon your mind the importance of testicles and the manly qualities which are developed under their influence. You can easily understand that a boy should never do anything to irritate or excite that part of his body. Some boys who do not know of these matters may accidentally acquire or may be led into the habit of handling these organs, irritating and exciting them. This seriously interferes with a boy's development of the highest qualities of manhood. The boy who is very anxious to develop these qualities and who knows these matters that I am explaining to you will never touch his sex organs, except to keep them clean as he takes a bath. At other times he not only leaves that part of his body alone but he does not even permit himself to think about it. He throws his whole energy into the games of boyhood and young manhood and into the work that he is supposed to do, and lets nature take care of that part of his body.
How To Avoid Dangerous Habits - Habits are very easily formed during this period of later childhood. In the story of manhood told above the father guards the boy against one dangerous habit prevalent in this period - that of self-abuse or masturbation. This habit is very easily acquired by boys during their preadolescent period. A boy may be led into the habit by a vulgar-mined older boy or by a low-minded servant; or he may acquire the habit through some incident of his personal, private life and not influenced by anyone else.
So many boys get into this habit that no boy may safely be left uninstructed, he should be told by his father or by some trusted man teacher or other leader of boys, of the harm that comes from handling the sex organs - exciting and irritating them so that their work is disturbed.
If a boy knows what harm the habit of self-abuse will do him, he is quite sure to quit the habit if he has already acquired it, or if he has not gotten into the habit he is effectively guarded against it.
Boys who have been circumcised are far less likely to get the habit of self-abuse than are boys who have not been circumcised.
As a rule all a small boy needs to help him break the habit of self-abuse is to have the matter clearly explained to him and to know that boys who are addicted to that habit do not develop into as fine, big, strong men as they would have been if free from the habit. Explain to the boy that self-abuse is an unclean, unmanly habit. Explain also that it is important to keep his mind clean and free from vulgar thoughts.

So are we clear gentlemen?  It's dirty, unclean, unmanly and if you do it often enough you won't grow up to be a fine, big, strong man - and you better get yourself circumcised just to be on the safe side.

Now, as for the ladies...

How To Avoid Dangerous Habits. - Among the wrong habits so likely to mar a girl's personality are habits of carelessness in personal appearance, habits of disorder in her room and habits of careless language, such as the use of slang and ungrammatical language, habits of departing from absolute truth in conversation. All these are habits to which girls of this age are especially liable; then, of course, there is the destructive habit of self-abuse referred to in the previous section. While little girls are far less likely to be led into the habit than is the case with boys, still the mother must take nothing for granted. She must be very sure that her daughter is properly instructed, as set forth in the previous section; furthermore that her associations should be very carefully guarded. One badly brought up girl in a neighborhood may do a great deal of damage to the innocent sweet girls before the mothers are aware of it, if they are lacking in vigilance.

 So, now ladies it seems we're less likely to develop this nasty hobby and those of us who do also appear to be sloppy,trash talking, lying tramps!

Now, should you need any other life lessons from Dr. Hall, please just send me an email and I will look up your question in my oracle, which I should mention,  a previous owner took it upon themselves to highlight passages and make insightful notes in the margins!  It's the best $3.50 I've ever spent.

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Be very wary of low minded servants. Don't say I didn't warn you! ;)
who knew that one female who had figured out what felt so good could contaminate an en-tire neighborhood? thanks for the heads-up, Dr. Hall. asshole.
Hey, hey, now - some of us ARE low-minded servants.
"a low-minded servant" yes, those damn low-minded servants done me wrong agin. And here I always blamed mom.

Ok, that does it Surly girl. I buying a ticket to LA, stopping at Costco for a couple of boxes of wine once I get out of the airport, and I'm coming to snoop through your closets. That's it. And I'm bringing BarkingLot with me.
Damn, we were and are still so repressed! Jeeeez! :)
masturbaginity :
The state of being pure, unsullied, or untouched by your own hands, esp. to orgasm; sexual self-gratification. ; )
I was never properly warned about the bad girls in the neighborhood, and for some reason when I'd walk by the other girls would snicker. Oh...wait....

This is great though, really! The different ideas, practices and mindsets during different periods of time makes me wonder what nonsense we're holding onto that others will laugh at in 50+ years. Yikes!
"One badly brought up girl in a neighborhood may do a great deal of damage to the innocent sweet girls before the mothers are aware of it, if they are lacking in vigilance. "

I think he might be talking about me... uh oh
"One badly brought up girl in a neighborhood may do a great deal of damage to the innocent sweet girls"

iamsurly: That WAS you, wasn't it! :1


Me too! W00t! Here's to the spread of moral decadence, girl friend! :D
femme - It's like poison oak, it spreads with touching ;)

Owl - which is why we need to keep an eye on you :)

JK - Just tell me when your plane lands. You'll be sleeping on the blow-up mattress with Jack the Dog, who is an excellent snuggler.

Lady Miko - somehow I don't have repressed in my list of adjectives for you.

Chuck - you read this book in grad school didn't you?

Comm - it is highly entertaining. What scares me is that the notes in the margins were made sometime in the last 20 years... so someone in my neighborhood had a fucked-up upbringing.
EhVah and Safe_Bet - I think we should get club jackets and call ourselves The Tramps ;)
i'm fer it. wait, what was "it" again?
I shall read this in place of my porn this evening. I so want to be a good girl.
I want you to know that I tried REALLY hard not to say this, but...

Dr. Winfield Scott Hall is SUCH a jerk...




off...
Does it say anything about foothole abuse?
Priceless! (But bad news for Sen. Tink)

Sincerely,
Your low minded servant
(my new email signature)
At least now I know why I'm so mentally underdeveloped. But I'm still glad I did it as often as I did growing up because I'm already almost 6'6''. Can you imagine what a freak I would be if I didn't......well, you know. Anyway, I decided to quit. Right after the next time.
Since Jesus needs me to save my seed for my bride - he says I get an Armenian woman - I wouldn't know about any of this, though I've heard (my preacher told me once while I was giving him a handjob) that some people practice self-abuse on a regular basis. I'm comforted somewhat however knowing that you're all going to hell.
Nasty hobby? Are you kidding?

The only thing "nasty" about a young babe doing this is that there are plenty of guys who would gladly satisfy her a lot more given the opportunity.

But some babes are into it and enjoy it. While spying on babes with binoculars over the years, I have had the good fortune of watching a few hotties taking care of themselves. Not only did they like it, but it certainly turned me on as well.

Sometimes even the most well intentioned partner doesn't do it as well. Other times it is always better with a partner.

Don't be so quick to judge.
Hitting them out of the ballpark,iamsurly! keep it coming.

I love the ying and yang of I.C. London's comments.
I.C. London, I think you left your leisure suit at home. Do you have any idea what a creepy little fellow you are?
That's why I never do it; I hire a professional.
As Woody Allen said: “What’s wrong with sex with the one you love”. In Love and Death when Diane Keaton complimented him on his skill as a lover he said: “I practise a lot when I’m alone.”

When I was young we were poor and had to make our own entertainment.
oh, the trouble into which i've been led by vulgar-minded older boys and low minded servants!
Why write about it, when you can do it? And out of curiosity, do you LIVE here? Because I'm looking for some vacation real estate and I'm wondering what kind of deal you got on the square footage....
Oh shit! I always thought I was a nice girl. Now I know where I get my propensity for "the lovely". I am the victim af an insidious addiction that my mother should have trained me about when I was young. It is obviously not my fault but the fault of a poor upbringing and a negligent mother. Thank you, Jesus!
Gawd!!!!!!!!!! You're all a bunch of pervs!

seafarin' man - Tag - you're it!

Beth- If you click your heels together three times you can go back and be a good girl... oh, no wait, that gets you to Kansas... hmmm... lemme think.

Safe_Bet - You should here what he has to say on, and I quote, "Race Betterment." But he's a doctor, so he should know. ;)

Cindy - you don't need him to tell you that it's immoral, Freaky will tell you that herself ;)

Harry - I'm so glad you know your place ;) Yeah, Tink's screwed big time.

Michael - Pains me to think of it!

nanatehay - you gettin' one online or you making the trip over to shop in person?

I.C. - you make me a little queasy sometimes.

aim - you're a little devil.

Drew-Silla - amen sistah.

Trudge - not all of us are as foreward thinking as you.

Padraig - you were truly a resourceful child I take it.

Bah - I bet!

O'Really - there's a nice spread to the East of the Country Club... would you like my realtor's number?

rainee - it's always best to blame one's mother.
I'm just looking out for you Trig!
"So many boys get into this habit that no boy may safely be left uninstructed, he should be told by his father or by some trusted man teacher or other leader of boys, of the harm that comes from handling the sex organs - exciting and irritating them so that their work is disturbed."

Nobody ever told me. Now I know.

Thanks. I think.
makes you wonder how often ol' Dr. Hall did it (though he was probably too busy throwing his entire self into all that book learnin')
spanking the monkey, or if you're a monkey, spanking the human...
Also socially accepted.
Rated
I don't know what to say.....:)
I think you've said it all!
grif - kinda funny how today any conversation about masturbation with a trusted teacher or leader of boys would wind you up in court!

Sandra - I'm betting he typed with one hand tied behind his back to make sure he didn't get idle urges.

KOB - I bet you wrote the list of slang terms in high school, didn't you?

patricia - ha! you're probably right :)
Iamsurly- Umm, I guess I am dirty. So be it. I'd rather be dirty than repressed. Apparently, dirty boys have more fun. I have made my choice and I stand by it :)
who needs a high minded servant?
I prefer the low minded ones! bathe them and send them to me!!

::clap clap::
"The servant waits, while the master . . . . baits."
(I seriously can't believe no one else saw that, uh, coming.)
The Wanderer - indeed!

nofrills - I'll send them out to be laundered and have them on their way.

Umbrella - that makes you a good girl.

Owl - you been workin' on that all night? :)
I was always looking for those bad girls in the neighborhood, hoping they were properly instructed, ant that they would damage me instead. Rated
Sad, no. That's from "History of the World, Part I," I think. Madelaine Kahn says it after "inspecting" the troops.
Funny... 'cause in my head your sound just like Madeline Kahn in Blazing Saddles...:)
Ralph - I hope you got all the damage you could handle ;)
"One badly brought up girl in a neighborhood may do a great deal of damage to the innocent sweet girls before the mothers are aware of it, if they are lacking in vigilance...."

uh oh....xox
I can only hope, surlesque, that you won't hurt this sweet innocent girl that is me...xox
I taught my children when the timing was right that if they had an itch, they should scratch it. And to let their fingers do the walking. They were appalled at the time, grateful later. Very fun post.
Robin - just who do you think you're fooling? :)

marytkelly - you're clearly the other kind of vigilant mother :)
Okay, I'm the badly raised girl! okay! are you happy!?
Can I play with your mosaic station?
Now you're just being craftily lascivious!
If Robin gets to play with the mosaic station, I get to sniff the glue.
;)
There is a mess getting ready to happen . . . mmm hmmmm. Good luck, ms. surly.
La Vern,

CUT AND PASTE??? Has someone taken over your cyber body? Or are you channeling?

The most interesting fact about masturbation is that it is so easy to do, even babies do it. All without a, well, manual.

I think you owe us a poem.

xxooo
I wonder if this kind of thinking is why the average American guy is circumcised. Many men want their sons to look like them and many women think circumcised is normal, so the tradition continues.

But ultimately did the epidemic of circumcision start with learned doctors like Hall, trying to ensure that America's boys grow into "fine, big, strong men" and not low-minded servants?

Think about that next time you consider the issue of circumcision.
I'm betting he typed one handed because with the other he'd mastered his patented unzip-reach in-stroke-and-squeeze move.
"So many boys get into this habit that no boy may safely be left uninstructed, he should be told by his father or by some trusted man teacher or other leader of boys, of the harm that comes from handling the sex organs - exciting and irritating them so that their work is disturbed."

So, we're not suppose to touch it in an ungodly manner ever? I read in the 'A guidebook to the human body' circa 1952, that if you don't, "Release the pressure at regular intervals" that the "manhood" may develop "fissures" and well, I don't know about you, but I don't want no fissures on my manhood, so I'm touching it, no matter what Winfield Scott Hall, PhD, WhmD, blah blah blah says!!

~wanders off~
Damn that low-minded servant and his pernicious influence on my manhood!
Well shit. Guess it's all over for me. See? I use bad words. I'm a bad girl. Dang.

*Pouts*
BarkingLot - sometimes you have to quote genius when you find it.

Here goes:
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Don't jerk off,
'cause it is bad for you.

Malusinka - I'm not touching that hot button topic, no sir!

Sandra - he did have all those degrees, so I'm betting he was smart enough to master a move like that.

Tink - you've got fissures - I'm just not sure they are in your manhood.

Donkey - Good help is hard to find.

AshKW - you can join The Tramps if you'd like.
I just want to make a mosaic that is an abstract representation of masturbation for your driveway, surlesque...that's all! xox
Robin, 3 dimensional right? Tell me it will be 3 dimensional. Oh, and maybe with a water feature. ;)
Sigh. I love that they are called "the dangerous habits." I've always wanted a dangerous habit and as it turns out ... heh heh. ahem.
You know, if you took this seriously, it could explain perfectly the horrible situation humanity finds itself in today...except for the fact that a lot of our woes can be blamed on overpopulation.
Masturbation is not "unmanly" when it's done with dignity and deportment.
The irony is he was probably a closeted pervert of some sort. Or else had some other major vice habit. And yet all too often it turns out that many of these self-righteous windbags have secret dirt under their fingernails.
if it weren't for my low minded servant I would never get laid...
Wow...the children are made out to be demonic in this!