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AUGUST 1, 2010 4:29PM

"You Have Such A Pretty Face"

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The other night I was having margaritas at a Mexican restaurant in Malibu with my girlfriends Stacy and Wendy.   While we were chatting over a basket of tortilla chips and a bowl of guacamole, I was relating the story of how my husband, Dave, called me a cuntasaurus the other night.  Wendy, who had brought her 4 year old Trevor with her, clucked at me rather loudly and tossed her head in Trevor's direction. Thusly chastised, Stacey and I continued our conversation using the euphemism "The C Word". Now I'm not one to be giving parenting advice, and I do my best to respect my friends' choices about to what their children should and shouldn't be exposed. However, when it comes to the subject of the art of learning the English language , I have some pretty strong opinions.

 When we are children we are told these words are rude and offensive.  That adults shouldn't say them in front of us and that if they do, by accident of course, we shouldn't repeat them. Thus these words become magical.  Verbal talismans and weapons that we can lob at each other when our parents aren't looking.  My sisters have this "game" they play with their kids to teach them that there is a penalty for using swear words.  When any of the adults in the house swear, they put a quarter in a "Swear Jar" as a punishment.  The first time the kids tried to charge me for swearing I called bullshit, and told them they should pay me a dollar a word to teach them how to speak English properly. 

I am a huge proponent of the word fuck.  I love this word.  It is versatile, powerful, comedic, and charming when used properly.  My girlfriend Carol, who is quick to call me a whore (another word I love) when I snark in her general direction,  can wield the term "mother fucker" like a samurai warrior or a burlesque fan dancer depending upon the situation.  I've striven over the years to  emulate the mellifluous way in which she utters this sacred phrase, but alas I'm an amateur.

My friend Anne randomly sends me text messages in which she calls me a variety of colourful names.  My favourite is "Thunder Cunt", which is what Dave was trying to think of when he laughingly called me a "cuntasaurus" the other night.  She also likes to call me a "skanky ho" and a "beyotch" amongst other things.  I like to tell her that her Southern drawl makes her sound like a sanctimonious cunt.  We call each other these names because we genuinely like each other. We both also happen to like exploring the flexibility of the English language.  Like any skill, you need to keep in shape.

When, a few weeks back, the President commented that he wanted to know  "whose ass to kick" over the BP clusterfuck (another awesome word by the by), the news and the country went ballistic.  Seriously? Ass? At least the FCC didn't start talkin' fines like it did when Jane Fonda said "fuck" on the Today show earlier in the year.  What was the most pathetic thing about that, was that every news outlet in the country wanted to talk about it, but since they couldn't repeat the phrase, they had to use the ridiculously childish term "F-bomb." Really? What grade is our country in?  Don't get me started on how immature we really are compared to our European cousins.  For the most part they say what they please on TV and aren't too afraid to show a little T 'n' A on the telly. 

It's actually my opinion, and a fairly learned one at that as I do have a Masters in Social Psychology, that when we wish to hurl insults or draw blood in another person using words alone, we don't generally use profanity to accomplish this.  The rudest and cruelest insult I've ever been dealt didn't carry a single "foul" word.  As any woman who has ever been 20 or more pounds overweight can tell you, the meanest thing you can say to her is "You have such a pretty face."  The first time someone took a swipe at me with that barbed phrase it was like being sucker punched in the gut.  If you were to call me a "fuckin' fat bitch", you'd only make me smile.

 Now that I am older, another one of my favourite barely veiled insults is when someone decides to pass around old photos of you online or at a party. Invariably one of the catty women whose ass you should have kicked in high school chimes into the conversation with "Oh! Look at you.  Look how young you look!" Really? You wanna go there with me bitch? You wanna cast the first hag comment? People who Botox shouldn't cast aspersions.  That's always my first thought. 

Like I said, I'm not one to be giving parenting advice.  However, I will, given a few unsupervised moments, teach your children every word they will need to know to survive life's playground. In case it wasn't clear from the onset folks, I come with a PG-13 rating, an extensive vocabulary, a bad attitude, and can, and will, cut you to the quick with a well placed quip.    And if you get in my face, trust me, I'll cut-a-bitch and never cuss once in the process.

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You love me, you really love me.
You have such a pretty vocabulary.
A well placed fuck gives just the right emphasis doesn't it? So many things are so much more offensive, agreed. Giving kids the right to censor adult behavior by making them pay for curse words just changes the dynamic in a home that should not be just child centered. I knew as a kid never to repeat certain words or worse tell an adult to watch their language. Another thing, if the conversation turns adult, send the kids out. There should be times the kids can't listen in. We were always sent out at the goddamn good parts.
I thought you were going with the "Are you Pregnant" line...and I loved:
wield the term "mother fucker" like a samurai warrior or a burlesque fan dancer depending upon the situation
...Teach your children well......
Trilogy - Gah! I had someone say that to me once... if I hadn't been at a funeral I would have kicked him in the nads.
12 being the age of reason, my kid can curse then, assuming he knows how and when to use curse words. Until then, he must learn restraint, which is harder.

I curse a lot among adults and never among children. That is my only quibble with this, it is their job, decision, and right to raise their kid by their standards. It may make them keep their kids away from you if you can't respect it.

That may be your goal!

I say that we should use all the words and that if words make you cry, you shouldn't speak.

But kids get kicked out of class for cussing these days and that makes parents have to go get them....so don't be a fucking asshole!
I've long warned the men in my life that it's when I'm not calling them fucker that they need to worry. It weeds out the ones who can't handle a little playful name-calling.

Oh, and fuck off, Surly. There's nothing worse than a self-righteous thundercunt.
1) They learn those words no matter what
2) You don't get bonus parenting points--good for free set of steak knives!--if your toddler up and uses the word "fuck" or "cunt" or "son of a bitch" in public. And while they easily pick up those words, when it comes to teaching them what is and is not appropriate, it requires a certain level of intellectual awareness that the vast majority of toddlers do not possess. So unless one doesn't mind being ostracized from "polite society," it is generally preferable to limit exposure to those words until a wee bit later in life. (My personal experience is that around 10 or 11 they "get it," but I'm sure that varies.)

Just another data point for you, your fucking psychobabble-spewing, bullshit rationalizing cunt.
As much as I enjoy the vulgar, well-placed, witty slur between good friends in private, I don't care for listening to a barrage of curses in public. One tries to navigate the public sphere as smoothly as possible - shopping, chatting with the neigbhors, doctor's appointments, the library. A little restraint in mixed company (which includes strangers and children) goes a long way, and helps make the daily grind a lot more palatable.
Hm. It's your party. I'm afraid I will not be able to invite you to my house for a few years yet.

Cuntasaurus is pretty bad. But in order to understand this, the kid has to understand irony. That is a developmental threshold.

Motherfucker? Have you stopped to think what makes that obscene? It is complex. Besides the fucking part (complex enough) we have to get into incest, power, humiliation, possibly rape, and you may as well toss in man-on-woman violence in general. There is a developmental threshold for understanding that word.

We tell our kids that these words are rude and offensive because, after all, they are rude and offensive. Before a certain point, they are not ready for the crushing power of their meaning. For now, it is good enough that the words are b-a-d.
I'm afraid I have to agree with Doug and Divorce Bard. I swear regularly, actually, but my ten year old knows those words are used for very specific reasons, and not in all contexts.

But then, you are surly, so it suits you. ;)
As long as you don't call me mellifluous. Huh?
How is Anne the Queen of Mean? The Thundercunt of middle America? Seems the fuckmuppets have ran her off of OS.
Na, she like you, has thick skin.. along with charm, grace, and personality to spare.

Your avatar has such a pretty face surly. Fat ass! Luv ya!!!
There is a time and place for the f-bomb. For example, some years ago my friend Dan and I went on a 70 mile bike ride to the Oregon coast. The weather forecast said there was a 20 percent chance of rain, and thus reassured we departed, wearing out best summer bicycle attire. In fact, the forecast was correct -- 20 percent of the region's rain fell on us 100 percent of the time.

And then at the very peak of the Oregon coast mountain range, Dan had a flat tire. We pulled off to the side. Dan stood beside his wounded bike, looked to the left, looked to the right, looked above, and with rain water running off of him pronounced "this is fucked."

You see, it was fucked, and no euphemism or clever phrase could have captured the moment.

But to use the f-bomb too often trivializes it, and drains it of its power. If everything is fucked, it doesn't mean anything, and the person who wears out the word just ends up sounding like Al Pacino in the movie Scarface.
Commented before reading comments, but now I feel a need for an addendum... and to agree with Stellaa.

Why shelter our children from descriptive language that is commonly used by all, or most? Do we suppose that they should not be exposed to FUCK or MOTHERFUCKER or THUNDERCUNT or CUNTASUARUS until they are old enough to vote or "kill for their cuntry?" To this I say BULLSHIT!

My son would be a match for Stellaa's daughter I dare say.
So what if I said your face was smokin'?

But really, you should have your own talk show! I would so tune in for that to listen to all the self-righteous mothers calling in wanting to "protect" their dear one's ears but you reply, "Thundercunt says what?"
Being a construction worker, I'm fairly fluent in Vulgarian; my only regret in life is that I didn't join the Marines so I could take my creative use of good Anglo-Saxon words to the next, ultimate level. Or, as Beth Mann might say, "Cunt off you freaking fuck face."
I like the foul banter between friends, in private. One that irritates me though, from the classic passivae aggresive is: "She/He has such a great personality!", "a big heart!", "a warm person"....
Heard all of of them leveled at me and friends.

My friend from Minn and I like to bust each other's balls with witting, sometimes foul inventions....his favorite was Jissgod.
I think you're right--that's the nastiest thing you can say about a woman. Can't, though, imagine anyone rotten enough to go and say it to a woman.

What's the nastiest thing you can say about a man? He hasn't a friend in the world.
You kiss Dave with that mouth? as my mother used to say
My husband's favorite endearment for me is 'psycho bitch,' a badge I wear with pride. Having spent childhood and beyond hearing You have such a pretty face when in fact I didn't until the nose job, I hate that one passionately, along with, as Gary points out, S/he has a great personality.

Stating the obvious: the words no child should ever learn at anyone's knee are the truly abhorrent hate labels many of those motherfucking sanctimonious dickwads who decry "the f-word" probably use without a second thought.
each of my daughters has a strong moral compass and an extensive and colorful vocabulary. i think i did pretty fuckin' good by them.
When I lived in Europe and would be out drinking with the various English speaking expats, I swore like a sailor and it was kind of cute but mostly horrifying to them. Swearing is still considered impolite, even when drunk and having a fucking good time. Maybe just for the ladies, the men still used all the words.
I'm a fan of the rarely used "cockbite." Also, I've gotten very weary of "bitch" being the only insult women say to each other on TV. "Thunder Cunt" would be refreshing.
Thundercunt and cuntasaurus have now been entered into my personal lexicon. Thank you.

When her son was little a friend of mine was living in South Florida, an area notorious for the terrible traffic and awful drivers. The only way to cope is turn the air blue and so she often did. Her mother was visiting and they were all on their way to Miami when a driver cut her off and forced her to brake suddenly, at which point her angelic three year old started waving his fists wildly yelling "you goddamned motherfucker!" Needless to say, Grandma was a bit shocked.
Love it & agree 100%.
Fuck is much more versatile. The real issue w C___ is that it is the single most dismissive, pregnant-with-potential-violence word we have abt women. Whereas Fuck has many uses and implications, and even comic ones, C___ is very specific and is only used w derision: it strips half the world of all humanity...it's only used to deprive humanity.
There's an enormous gulf betw the kinds of people who use Fuck in all its humor, splendor, and nastiness from those who will use the other. rated.
You are a superb beyotch, honey.
fuckin' rated.
Cuss words are the mighty warriors of our language. They're an elite team that can go places and do things that other words can't. I love them. I swear all the time and have finally given up on worrying about its impact on my kids. Lord knows I have other, bigger things to concern myself with when it comes to them.

Bravo.
Oh yeah. It would be nigh on impossible to live in So Fla and not have a bag of curse sitting in the car for any trip longer than the driveway.
I was once publicly chastised by a father when I used a highly veiled euphemism around his nine year old. Something to the effect of large motorcycles being "a man's replacement for something else." I have never returned to a social gathering at that house.
Once upon a time, riding with my four-year old.
"Oooh Mom. I heard what you said."
"What did I say?"
"You called that woman a fucking idiot."
"I did not. I called her an idiot."
"Moooo-em. EVERY time you call someone an idiot, you call them a fucking idiot."

Swearing in front of kids is no big deal. I'm with you Surly. Fuck people who think language in front of children should be pristine.
My mother gasps when I drop the f-bomb. Apparently she's long forgotten that as a hormone hyped (thanks to the 60s version pill) young mother she didn't just swear, she created an entirely new swearing vernacular in long drawn out text strings that lasted for what seemed like hours. And she still wonders where I learned this stuff and why I enjoy the pleasure of eff.
Such a great post!! I was dying laughing especially a the botox whore doing the passive aggressive crap. My nephew who is only 2 has caught on to saying "oh shit" (my mom likes to lie and say he is saying "ocean" but we all know he isn't)
Dammit, I wanna party with you, Surly! You sound like a riot! Wooo!

-R-
This discussion is so apropos to my life right now it's not funny...I mean you're funny as hell, but it...anyway, my daughter has recently uttered a few curses; very mild stuff like damn and hell mostly and GD once, but never in my presence. I've only heard about it from the relatives she stays with for part of the summer.

This after I've gone to such trouble to avoid cursing around her.
So where did she hear this? If she had said fuck or shit, I would think maybe she heard it through my bedroom door when I thought she was asleep (two of my favorites). But GD has not passed my lips maybe never. I just don't like that one.

Though I'm pretty liberal-minded and can agree with you to an extent, kids have to go to school and mix with the general public. If they curse at school, parents get called by irritated teachers. If they curse among friends, other parents won't appreciate the corrupting influence.

The reality is we all have to live with the judgement of others. I don't want people thinking I'm raising a little foul-mouthed urchin. It would reflect poorly on me and my parenting. I admit it. I still care what other people think.

iamsurly, you are always a good read...rated!
I drank and swore and do all sorts of adult things in front of my kids......and they were not allowed to. (They also couldn't drive the car, so yeah, they had to follow a few rules.)

The most hurtful insult I've ever recieved was when a dear friend of mine, a very fine person of the gay variety called me a "cow." (He called me a "breeder" once also, but "cow" was worse.)y

I posted something last year asking for insults, and boy-o-boy did you fine people hand me a bag of fun, and often very nasty, shit.

Thanks for sharing, dickwad.
And oh yeah, the one thing that these supposedly good parents----the ones that worry that their little prince will soiled by our words---- never say to their children?

"Be quiet."

I want to slap those precious assholes. (The parents, of course!)
I taught my daughter to swear. I sat her down and told her every "bad word" out there while sparing her the meanings unless she asked.

We said everyone together - they sound even funnier in a seven-year-old voice. Then I said, most adults do not want to hear you saying these words, they will think you are not polite, so please do not embarrass me, often.

Take away the untouchable taboo, they are just another beautiful word just waiting for timely placement.
Let's take a moment to honor the great Floyd Eliot:
http://open.salon.com/blog/floyd_elliot/2009/07/08/the_ineffable_power_of_fuck

By the way, pretty face, Trig Palin included a link to your post. (Click on "limpdicked.")
Fuckface I have a soft carrot and a zucchini, some cauliflower and an anchovie in my fridge. What am I going to do with them ?
I thought this was some kind of cooking site.
I've got people coming over.
Love your shoes.
Kim, if you've got some olive oil and garlic you can make bagna cauda!
Kim - Order a fuckin' pizza.
Heh. You are so cute.

I think swearing is like sex education, something I'd rather my kid learned at home than at school, because I want to be sure they get it right and don't fuck it up.

And if you want to water the front lawn naked and people don't like it, well you can educate them on both counts too.
Hahaha! I love everything about this. Unfortunately, I have nothing witty to offer in return. But thanks!
Courtesy Ablonde :

if you have olive oil, garlic and anchovies you can heat them up in a little pot then chop up the veggies and dip them in the warm garlic/anchovie infused oil, after the veggies are done traditionally pieces of bread are used to sop up any remaining goodies, it's delish

Also some fresh lemon-juice, maybe.

Thanks Ablonde.
Thanks Fuckface, and Dave ...
Courtesy Ablonde :

if you have olive oil, garlic and anchovies you can heat them up in a little pot then chop up the veggies and dip them in the warm garlic/anchovie infused oil, after the veggies are done traditionally pieces of bread are used to sop up any remaining goodies, it's delish

Also some fresh lemon-juice, maybe.

Thanks Ablonde.
Thanks Fuckface, and Dave ... ( love you Dave.)

This is going to go twice - it's one of those jammed up nights.
Do the right thing, surly.
cuntasaurus! sorry, that is so funny! great post. R
Fuck! This is great! And, I am in complete agreement. I swear, occasionally, in front of my son. We've talked about it. I explained that somebody, somewhere, that we don't even know DECIDED these were not good words, and that that alone did not make them bad. Of course, I did throw in the whole social acceptance caveat. I really hate being called into the principal's office...
You're my kinda girl, asshole!
One of the more fun aspects of being a parent is going to the school for some sort of "we-the-teachers-will-tell-you-what-the-flick--we--think--we're--doing--and--how--you--can--do--it--for--us. So I was at school this spring and apologized for my son's foul language and their jaws dropped. Apparently, one of us knows when to use blue language in public. . . .
As one of those expressing consensus, I'll just say I can think of many worse things to do around kids than use perfectly legitimate Anglo-Saxon swear words of impeccable lineage. Myself, I have a larger vocabulary than almost anyone I can think of, but sometimes there is no substitute for a good old-fashioned cuss word or three. Children can survive the horror of cussing, I've seen them do so many times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rX7-R54-Q8

It's the one magical word.
I don't agree with you, for several reasons. Relying on a bunch of polka dots and vivid colors does not stretch the fashion sense or the mind. Not only that, but one then goes through life being carelessly offensive to strangers who happen to be within viewing
range. Perhaps you don't realize how hostile that sort of clothing looks. Keep it to yourselves and your friends--it's not appropriate in public.

Some of us are NOT wealthy and MUST exercise a judicious self-restraint. As a teacher who models under my own name, I NEVER wear vulgar patterns or whorish colors. I want to keep my job, thank you! I think it's reasonable to teach my children that a similar forbearance will be a help to them, as well.

I'm amazed at the level of consensus you're receiving here. Geez, people, grow up and get a grey scale. Honestly, I think we middle-aged and older folks are just trying way too hard to look as "cool" [read "immature"] as our teenagers.

Nothing personal, surly--but I don't think you recognize there are good reasons for exercising some self-discipline in the way we choose to dress, and no reasons at all for denigrating those who do so.
Fuck the people that are offended.....I mean, really, fuck them I love you Cindy, but there are far greater offenses, REAL offenses that need to be addressed.

Step up and address those things, the things that really hurt, not the words that are freeing to those of us that use them. You can choose to ignore them, much like none of us can or should choose to ignore real pain. Poverty, homelessness, and hunger come to mind.

Real problems, verses the superficial "pain" of simple words. My kids grew up to be strong and healthy and happy and heard the word "fuck" often........and likely use them.

Just a thought......
Now what if they said, "You have such a fucking pretty face?"

Cuntasaurus, now that's a dinosaur with balls!
Was worth it just for the tag list.

Mind you, it makes me wonder just how many posts after this will have the tag "cuntasaurus". -R for the many versatile uses of the glorious word, fuck.
Thank you so much for giving me "Thunder cunt." I plan to use it frequently.

Rated.
You put Bon Qui Qui to shame!! I will cuuuuuuuut you!

Saquirity! Saquirity!!!
I'd have to agree, to a point. I love cuss words, especially "fuck" (check out George Carlin's old bit on that one). I'm not sure it's such a good idea to say "cunt" in front of a child too young to understand how to use it. Your mention of "cuntasaurus" reminded me of why my ex-husband was such a dickhead. He used "cunt" with the worst of intentions.

I agree 100% with the real insult. Having always been thin, I became very overweight in a relatively short time span, and I took it off with Weightwatchers. (It worked great, by the way). A few years later the weight began to creep on.

So I went to the gym and back to WW. Now there are good leaders and bad. Instead of losing the normal couple lbs in water the first week, gained 4 lbs (and no, you don't gain more than 4 lbs in muscle your first three days at the gym).

Frustrated, I went to the leader after the meeting. She, the utterly stupid bitch, said "Oh, but you have such a pretty face!"

So fucking demeaning. Like I'm some dumb fat clueless cow.

I've been called "cunt" and "fucking bitch" by strangers like other drivers (both the same day! and never again) and that didn't piss me off as much as "But you have such a pretty face".
Ahahaha, you seem like one of those rare breed of people who say fuck like they mean it. Learn some Urdu/Hindi swearwords if you can sometime, they are great fucking fun :)
Just to add, I swear as well as any in some situations but this world is jaded enough.

I watch my tongue around children and especially the eldery. Out of respect. What a concept.
This is great, Surly. It reminds me of when I had gained a shit-ton of weight from depression and a close female family member pulled me aside and said, "But you're such a pretty girl..." *shameful head nod*. At that point, the only two words in the entire English lexicon that would do:

"Fuck. Her."

I patched it up with that Cuntasaurus, and now we have an understanding.

Thanks.
By the way, Cindy, I am neither spoiled nor well off, but I still speak my mind the way I want to say it. It's one of of the few indulgences I can actually afford. Unbunch those panties, will ya? Geez.
Fashionably late as per fucking usual, I will now shoot my pearls of wisdom (read that Opinion) and run, as is the habit of many men, at least those who have rightly earned the sobriquet "motherfucker." It's complicated. For me, anyway. As a Southern Gentleman and a god damned "sensitive man" (read: Is he gay or what?) I was raised as a diplomat from Day One, and with good cause. Due to training, some of my family and people like them are prone to fatal cardiovasculare events upon being exposed to the full verbal monte. I'm not just kidding. Ever see someone suffer a stroke? But this as worked to my advantage, as has having been best friends (fiends?) with one of the most artful cursers on the planet. I do believe,bottom line, it's all bullshit, this overconcern with the words rather than how they're used, but I also know when it's better all around to just respect conventions -- up to a point. For instance, when expected to testify in a medical matter and use "excrement" where "shit" would do as both noun and/or verb, it will be shit and it may hit the fan, but there's gotta be a limit. Fuck is a grand word. An entire book has been devoted to it. Calling it "The F-word" is patently absurd, as is "the C-word" or, perhaps worst of all, "the N-word." We know precisely what the speaker/writer is NOT saying, and it only lends power to the word in its worst connotation while weakening the positive use of each (and yes, each can have a positve use): for instance, "cunt" can be used in the most loving and erotically-charged manner, as can "cock" and I could go on, but it would be gratuitious. Gratuitousness: there's the rub (hands off it!). We can get so colorful we really have nowhere left to go but punch someone, so "motherfucker" probably should be close to the last words someone hears before being knocked cold -- should he persist in his noxious behavior, unless, of course, it is used fraternally, in which case once is usually enough to confirm the bond.

Children? Yep, they already have heard this stuff, and either they understand what it means or they don't. If they don't, no harm, no foul. If they do, then they've already also picked up the context as well as some social aclimatization, and know which of their friends are from that strata prone to cerebral hemorhage upon hearing certain "magical" words. We could move on to blasphemey, but Jesus fucking Christ, hasn't the point been made? I fucking think so.

Loved this. Rated. Also saved as a reference source when I've run out of euphemisms over in East Bumfuck Maryland and just really need to tell someone: "Seems like I just fucked myself."

Oh, and of course, the absolutely most painful things are those not said, those passive, selective "compliments." Fuck those and the people who use them and the horses they rode in on.

Are we done?
Here's to letting the rage rip!
Ha, this would make my mother so angry. Me, on the other hand, I'm charmed. I said "shit" the other day while on stage with my community band because I had dropped my music all over the floor beneath my stand. I was given a look by the woman next to me, a woman who doesn't swear but who has a reputation for being a psychopath. I'll take being a public cusser over that reputation any day.
I'm all for your 2nd Amendment right to bear cunt -- but, like anything with the power to harm, foul language also comes with responsibility. For what it's worth, I think you wield it quite nicely but most people probably wouldn't if they felt there was no social cost to using it as liberally as they could. The dirtiness doesn't bother me, but the trend towards public coarseness and meanness does.

Still, I'm totally with you on the fascination the power of these words hold. Much of it comes from the tension between the id and the editor within us. We get a thrill getting the dirty words past our personal censors. Remove the editor and you remove the tension -- and alas, these words lose their juice. There goes the thrill. I mean, seriously -- can you imagine if you cooked everything with saffron?

As to what children should or shouldn't be taught -- I have no earthly idea -- but I'm reasonably assured that whatever we teach them, they will respond in unpredictable fashion. Rated "P" for positively provocative. Thanks for that.
OMG I love you! Thank you for putting into words how I've felt for forever. That seems to happen a lot on here ....
So well done!!! Sometimes, tossing out those great words like "fuck" just makes the point so much better than trying to be all proper and shit! Ya know?

Great post and great advice to parents.
Well said! I agree that telling children not to cuss only provokes more cussing behind your back, but sometimes the best thing to do is ignore the use of cuss words completely. A swearing sailor of a 6 year old could bring on some ugly confrontations.
Just last year, my ten-year-old started trying cuss words on for size. Judging on the words that come out of her friends mouths and the stories I hear from the playground, it isn't just her. The ladies who supervise recess must hear an ear full. After going round and round with her about why certain words are verboten, I gave in and told her I would teach her the definition of any and every cuss word she heard or could think of, and I did. She is now as fully informed as I am. But we also have had an ongoing conversation about how there is a time and a place to use casual language, such as cussing. I'm sure she is now a fount of information on the playground.
Cait says it's funny to spell it out to a rude person and see how long it takes her to catch on. Example: "Have a good day! See-you-Auntie!"
I have never had a "pretty" face. I had a great body. It got me somewhere with men. But, when one of them called me a "c**t, I let him go, completely. Children who can curse are just parrots of our society. People who say things like I have heard " too bad" about your eyes" or " your hips are a bit big" are in a category of their own.

But, regardless of my "not pretty face" or other comments, the word c**t was a marker. I don't like the word and I know it is just semantics. However, grace and graciousness is the game this "not very pretty" face/human wants to play

Curse words are fun. An examined life could offer more.
The two filthiest words in the English language are,
"politically correct".
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MY FUCKING FIRST AMENDMENT
I think I love you, Surly. Seriously.

I've never bought into the whole bad word thing. Someone, somewhere, who is long since dead, decided to pick certain words to be offended by. Now that's just dumb so don't ask me to buy into it. If you don't like the way I talk, fucking leave.

And that whole 'must have a small vocabulary' thing is really bullshit. Besides, it's not the size of your vocabulary... oh, never mind.
PS. I'm fat, have an ugly face and a shitty personality. Now what?
Just read through the comments and would like to thank Ms. Ross for the inspiration for my next post. I'm gonna write an essay mourning the way all our cuss words have fizzled into inanity due to ubiquitous overuse (just as soon as I find out what 'ubiquitous' means).

BTW, Cindy, you have the most appropriate avatar on OS.
Cap'n P,
What if u are not a biquitous?
What do u say to those who ask, "Are ubiquitous"?