Isaiah L. Carter

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OCTOBER 17, 2012 1:48PM

How to Lose a Debate

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In selecting the person who will be the President of the United States, and therefore the executive branch of the federal government, the interview process must be stringent, challenging, and precise. The American people, having been placed as the deciders of who our leaders must be, are faced with this choice every four years, and it is a duty that must never be ignored by any of us blessed to be a part of this great nation.

America was not just given a stark contrast in leadership styles last night from Hofstra University; we were given yet another clinic in how to debate pathologically dishonest people, who figure that their aggression, obfuscation, and insistence on feeding people a diet of word salad is the best path to victory. As Vice President Joe Biden last week, President Obama was at his very best last night, some even declaring that this was possibly his greatest debate performance ever as a politician. Whatever the case may be, Mitt Romney showed this country beyond any shadow of reasonable doubt that not only is he unfit to be the President of this country, but that he is simply the most disrespectful person to ever approach this President yet.

Chris Hayes of MSNBC’s Up with Chris Hayes masterfully put Romney’s behavior this way last night:

I thought the moment of the oil drilling, that debate to me was a key moment. The reason was this. Mitt Romney asked the president a direct question numerous times, kept interrupting him, “Isn’t it true? Isn’t it true? Didn’t it go down?” Now the rules for the debate, that we all got leaked, number five, subsection E: “The candidates may not ask each other direct questions during any of the four debates.”

Now, at a certain level, who cares, right? Who cares? Here’s why I care. The theme of the last ten years of this country is the people at the top have felt the rules don’t apply to them. And you send your people to sit down and negotiate a set of rules, and 20 minutes into it you throw it out the window. And everything we’ve seen, from the financial crisis to everything else that’s happened in this country, has been about the oligarchs and the ruling class and the people at the top feeling that they are not a party to the social contract. So some stupid little contract that was negotiated by your people, you don’t worry about.

It was expected that Romney would try to roll right over Candy Crowley as he had Jim Lehrer two weeks ago. After all, this is the style the Right has adopted in this era of post-truth conservative politics; kicking in the door with their own set of “facts”, bullying the moderator to keep them from calling them on their lies, and count on the stereotype of a milquetoast, hyper-polite liberal esoterically staying “above the fray” to continue the vicious cycle. And in a manner befitting this President, Obama once again showed this country how to overcome the hubris and overconfidence of a Right-wing out for blood.

In this regard, his “cerebral, professorial manner” served the President very well.

The overarching thing that Romney will be remembered for last night, beyond the “binders of women” meme he created, or the many other blatant lies he told, was his disgusting, reprehensible, vicious disregard of the man who holds the office he asks a nation to entrust with.

It is no longer news that the Right is highly despising of the Black Man in the White House, or that they are so inured by their hatred of this man that they planned from Day One of the Obama presidency to use anything he said or did against him as he executed his duties as such. However, Romney’s invasion of Obama’s space, his dismissal of the President by telling him that “you’ll get your chance in a moment” while he bloviated about the wonders of a myth like “clean coal”, or the declaration that the President needed to check his pension more often, were at best disastrously disrespectful; at worst, bigoted beyond belief.

Even some Republicans have called out Romney’s offensive behavior. Joe Scarborough started off Morning Joe today by calling him out as a “bulldozer.” Said Scarborough:

Secondly, you don't run over the president of the United States. Whether that president's a Republican or whether that president is a Democrat. There are independent voters who believe that a president should be treated with deference because he is the commander in chief.

Being a “bulldozer” will cost Mitt Romney this election, and much more than he may have bargained for. His rude, condescending, almost mean-spirited behavior will mark him far more than any conservatives’ expected bloviating about Obama being the ever-dangerous Angry Black Man. As Rick Lazio lost his Senate race against Hillary Clinton years ago after his disrespect, so has Romney sullied his cause in the eyes of this nation. To be so disrespectful to the man who holds the office you run for proves that you have absolutely no reverence for or understanding of just how serious the position of President of the United States truly is.

Bring on November 6th.

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Could you imagine the bulldozer that is Mitt Romney negotiating with Putin, Amahdinejad and my favorite nutjob of the moment, Netanyahu? It doesn't bear thinking about.

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the debate was nothing but frosting. if a guy is bound to the morally retrograd fundies who believe we are all going to hell for not believing what they do, and the billionaires who pay to convince the ignorant with ads, what else do you need to know? let's get real. we ain't running a network. we can say what we think here. it doesn't matter who the candidate is given who he represents. but beware: they vote, "liberals" don't, and if we wake up the day after the election with romney as president, I won't be surprised. will you?
Great piece. Sure as hell hope it gets thru to the boneheads.
Romney's total disrespect and disregard for the office of President, and for a particular black president is genuine racism at its rawest. He doesn't even consider Obama as his equal because in Romney's egocentric mind there are no equals to the "Great Mitt." Romney is a narcissistic bully fueled by white male privilege of which he has not a clue. Not a clue. When entitlement and narcissism are pricked in the slightest the result is a fusillade of anger and domination. Romney teeters on that edge a lot.

Good post.
Thank you for the links, and your cool appraisal.

I sincerely hope you are right, about which way this went.
What do you mean ALMOST mean-spirited?

Also what V.Corso said.
I confess I do not watch debates. I don't find them entertaining and what does any skill demonstrated have to do with being President? But in reading the reviews by those that did, or are paid to, I was struck by the photographs- Obama enjoying himself as he had at the Republican breakfast, Romney descending from smiling dollar aristocrat to snarling, slump shouldered, eyes shifting as he looked for his bully pack. at least he didn't bite one of the President's prominent ears when he tasted fear. even Tag felt he had to rise to the rescue- bye the bye Tag, I am sure you can find Obama surrogates in any inner city fight gym for you to take your frustrations out on- they'd like nothing better.
Excellent post, Isaiah, to which I would add one thing: Romney was as disrespectful to women as he was to the President.

When asked about how he would address the issue of pay equality for women, he didn't answer the question. He didn't even state his position on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. Instead he responded with that totally bogus story about how he sought out qualified women to appoint after he was elected Governor of Massachusetts. In reality, what happened was exactly the opposite (surprise, surprise).

BEFORE the election of 2002, a bipartisan group of women who were genuinely concerned about the lack of women in government prepared those binders and announced they would be presenting them to the victorious candidate. After the election they did just that. Romney didn't seek out those binders; he was CONFRONTED with them.

Needless to say, in response to that confrontation he grudgingly appointed a few women, but none in any position of authority with regard to economics or business. That's what REALLY happened.

Of course this lack of respect for the President is nothing new. We saw the same thing in the 2008 debates when John McCain referred to then-Senator Obama as "that one." There's very little that's new in the Republican playbook except that, as you say, they now have to deal with an actual African-American in the White House. It's obviously burning them up. Too bad. The President WILL be re-elected. We the People will re-elect him.
Your article is so incredibly biased and devoid of objectivity it's ridiculous! I watched the debate! How many times did Obama roll over Candy Crowley who gave him a pass on his incredible lies over Benghazi attack and the feds discouragement of oil and gas production. You need to get your head in the game Pal because you're not going to like what Obama has planned and if you work for a living and pay taxes then you're going to hate those changes even more. Obama is the liar, the charlatan, and the Manchurian candidate all you have to do is open your eyes and ears and quit playing dumb! Romney has contributed more to society then Onama could ever do in a lifetime. Obama never held a job, managed a business, or earned a real living. He's a community organizer, an agitator who creates unrest, a propagandist funded by George Soros and educated by a domestic terrorist Ayers! Read something else besides the Huffington Post you might learn something!
Your article is so incredibly biased and devoid of objectivity it's ridiculous! I watched the debate! How many times did Obama roll over Candy Crowley who gave him a pass on his incredible lies over Benghazi attack and the feds discouragement of oil and gas production. You need to get your head in the game Pal because you're not going to like what Obama has planned and if you work for a living and pay taxes then you're going to hate those changes even more. Obama is the liar, the charlatan, and the Manchurian candidate all you have to do is open your eyes and ears and quit playing dumb! Romney has contributed more to society then Onama could ever do in a lifetime. Obama never held a job, managed a business, or earned a real living. He's a community organizer, an agitator who creates unrest, a propagandist funded by George Soros and educated by a domestic terrorist Ayers! Read something else besides the Huffington Post you might learn something!
Grif Romney's disregard for the office of the Prez and racist? Are you out of your senile mind? Where in the hell did you come up with that trash? This is the problem in America, we have too many people out of touch with reality relying upon leftist narratives created by the classic Saul; Alinsky paradigm of deception.
Your own piece shows that you don't care about the truth, just your side of things.

While you go on about Romney and his disrespect for the president and him bullying the president and the moderator. So after you berate Romney you write “you’ll get your chance in a moment” which was said after the President tried to break into time that belonged to Romney.

You complain about Romney not answering questions but you didn't say anything about the man who asked the President who it was that denied the request for extra security in Libya. In fact the President sought out the man after the debate and still didn't answer the question even in a private conversation.

Finally, I don't know where the left comes up with this crap about how the Right doesn't like Obama because he is black. His race, which is more white than black, has nothing to do with his policies that are killing Americans. Yes, killing them. Starving them to death. Here and overseas.
Of course, I expected a blowback from the right wingers - either the paid ones, like that Waffle Hut waitress Luun E. Toonz, or the True Believers who swallow Limbaugh whole and don't know better.

The intense hatred of Obama isn't completely racism. Only about half of it is racism. The other half is the worship of the rich and powerful, and the belief that because they are rich, they are blessed by God and are always right. Which is what I sense from Doc Vega and catnlion above.

Romney showed his true colors in the second debate. They were hinted at in his awkward, laughable attempts to reach out to the common people by talking about the height of trees. But his need to be rude, his need to bulldoze, was shown pretty clearly. What he did would work pretty well with his fellow One Percenters, but not before the general public.

So, therefore, the only thing Romney has that might win him the election is the natural racism of a large part of the American public. The Republican way to win the election: Romney is white. That's all you need to know.
Yeah, I don’t know why he thought he could be so disrespectful during the debate. I kept thinking to myself as I was watching it, “Umm, excuse me Romney, don’t you know you’re addressing the commander-in-chief?” Guess not. Looks like it cost him that debate anyways. Looks like it’s 1-1 now, according to popular opinion, so this next one is going to be good!
Obama's debate performance was great, but it maybe too late. He had the election in the bag, the dynamics of the race has changed dramatically.
Concise, well-written synopsis of what Mittens did wrong. I'll be sharing this.
This one tolls for us, the ones who care. Great piece. It's heartening that we have a president who is cool -- emotionally, and as he is the cultural sense, he understands the grove in which we read things. I was proud of him, his sense of fairness coupled with the lacerating wit to fire back. This is exactly what we need. No, he was not perfect. But Mr. Perfect would be right there with his adroit smirk, the overconfidence of a mafia don trying to seize the moment and control. And it was LEFT, RIGHT ... UPPER CUT and done .... Romney could not counter punch to save his life. And Obama could have risked making him look even more sophomoric,
lacking in the true knowledge of a statesman. Thanks for sharing.
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