JAMES M. EMMERLING

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JUNE 14, 2012 2:45PM

MY MEETING WITH A GREAT POET (TRUE STORY)

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 The Cat in the Kitchen

(For Donald Hall)

Have you heard about the boy who walked by
The black water? I won't say much more.
Let's wait a few years. It wanted to be entered.
Sometimes a man walks by a pond, and a hand
Reaches out and pulls him in.

There was no
Intention, exactly. The pond was lonely, or needed
Calcium, bones would do. What happened then?

It was a little like the night wind, which is soft,
And moves slowly, sighing like an old woman
In her kitchen late at night, moving pans
About, lighting a fire, making some food for the cat.

 

 

I met Robert Bly 30 years ago. He did a poetry reading at my college, the university of Connecticut, one night, and I was determined to attend. I had a strategy: sit there in the audience while he spoke, then linger afterwards with the coeds who had to courage to approach the old lion. I needed ancient male wisdom almost as much as i needed beer.

 

This was in the day when he’d caused a bit of a splash with his iron john, a book my hippy sister had sent my way . It was about reaching the hairy wild man inside. Bly was doing workshops where he took men out in the woods and…well, I don’t know, made them open up after ecstatic dancing and drumming and whatnot. The feminists were alarmed by this. Men reaching their ‘inner wild man’ was not something they particularly appreciated, and they made this known with savage criticism of his nascent “Men’s Movement”.

 

I arrived too late for the reading, but not the after-party. Lovely sensitive men and cool  Lit Chicks were in a circle around him. I joined. I had been drinking at a local bar, to get up my courage to meet a legend, so I was in fine fine form. I swishy swished my way in, taking on a kind of dylan persona.

 

Bly looked tired and cynical and angry. He spoke to these kids in platitudes, I thought. I had to get his ear,and of course I did.  I would love to tell you what I said, but that is lost to the mists of abandoned memory. Whatever it was, it perked the old man up. We continued conversing in between inane  repertoire with the kiddies. I think I actually winked at him.

 

The result was that he wanted to continue the party. He said, “let’s get pizza, go back to my room.”

 

We acquired pizza from a chain place where Bly was suitably silly and quite the attraction. The pizza guy didn’t know Bly from any other old  college professor, and was used to his product being insulted, certainly. We left in a cadre of maybe 10. This is gonna be good, i thought. A genius talking to me, maybe even caring about me?

 

I remember Bly collapsing in his motel chair and eating some pizza, while throwing out uninspired advice about how our education was corrupt, we were all a bunch of money grubbers, this was not our fault , our culture demanded it. I got very bored. And very drunk. Because Bly had beer .

 At home i had a dad, a father, declining but still magnificent. All the dad a dude would need. George. Cynical, sure, exhausted & defeated, but...a goofball. Not a "know it all" as he warned me in direst terms against...

 I was not impressed  with Bly:Damn tired old man. Had inspiration once, in an earlier time. But he knew nothing of the new challenges we 90’s kids faced. I sure tried to educated him , but he kept deflecting me, focusing on the stuff he knew best, the loss of the Father in society, the way we were all forced to be perpetual adolescents, the corruption of the Government, etc. Blah blah. I knew this shit already.

 

I exited.

Got in my car, tanked, and tried to drive home.

A cop stopped me at a  light, and inquired why I was just sitting there. I grew immensely polite and told him I had been to a huge event at the college and was a bit exhausted. He bought it. I drove home up the woodsy highway to collapse in bed, saved yet again from being pinched for driving drunk.

 

…………………………………..

 

I checked out Bly’s Sibling society today, at the library.  A book I know well, from reading it and living it.

The thesis is:”in our sibling culture, we can tolerate no one above or have concern for anyone below us…like sullen teenagers  we live in our ‘peer group’, glancing side to side, rather than UPWARD, for direction…we have no elders, no children…we are left with spiritual flatness.”

 

I gotta agree. That is certainly me and my generation.

 

First page: “People don’t bother to grow up, and we are all fish swimming in a tank of half-adults…we see what’s coming out of a ‘sideview mirror’  “….

 

Yeah, no up, no down.

 

Gotcha.

…………………………….

 

End of sibling society:

we know there is a 7th mother of the house, who is also very small.

Perhaps she is far inside the womb, or sitting in the innermost cell of our body, and she gives us permission to live, to be born, to have joy....

the contribution of the 7th father is a house.

 

together they grant permission from the universe

for civilization..

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 

To get UP this weekend I am going to cape cod to spend time with sister L and new man G. and the precocious Georgie puppy. I plan to lounge on the beach and devour  Mr. Bly’s book. I shall rap with G. about it, if the fucker can sit still. He is always off on a bike ride of 8 miles with my sis. Or a hike.

 

“L, think he can sit still?” I said.

“Who, Georgie or G?”

“the former. G.”

“I dunno but jimmy I been tryin to teach him…”

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like the way you brought past and present perspectives to a meeting place between the chronological teenager and the assumed "half-adults" of our sibling culture. you did something with time here that presented both its realness and illusion. like that.
Thank you, maria. Yes, time is indeed a weird damn thing.
Present is fulla past.
pregnant with it.
Future screams at us to get here. To get it good and defined.
neither past nor future,
of course, has any 'real' existence.

we are beset by these evil ghosts, past and future, i think.
I enjoyed the story. Saw Robert Frost when I was at UMass, Amherst.
Can't forget it. I wish that we had been able to share a pizza.

I think you may have a new slogan: I shall borrow it from time to time.

"Present is fulla past."
Says so much.
I loved the poem but did not love the dry, dul,l lecturing fellow behind it. Thanks for this massive reality check - not all poets are Byron. You on the other hand, are a poet AND someone very much worth meeting, I think - the anti-Bly.
Ande borrow away. I am a thief myself of course. And a joker.
So I play “all along the watchtower “ by Dylan to get straight;

“there must be some way outta here
Said the joker to the thief
Its all too confusing I cannot get no relief”


no need to get excited, the thief he kindly spoke to me, and said,
we all oftentimes think life is but a joke..
this is not our fate,buddy.
the hr is gettin late'
"Sibling culture"
I'd not heard of this before.
I love Bly's poetry. I find it better than most.
Perhaps he was too tired to inspire that evening. Sometimes I think we expect overmuch from every cultural icon. Even famous geniuses have flatline times when ennui or tiredness may claim them.
Dontcha think?
;)
R
alysa, he was old! give the poor guy a break.
accustomed to idiot accolades.
sucked up to at every stop.
thanks anyway. i am kinda fresh and current i hope.
but also underneath,
i am an ancient old man...............................
poor diary: you bet. i live it every day.

" flatline times when ennui or tiredness may claim them."

i hope to make this time less
and the time where i am sparkling witty
more.

good balance. half and half?
I had not been exposed to the "sibling culture" theory before and like it very much. Can be applied in many ways.

In the end, even the idols are simply men and women, aren't they?
Don't leave me hanging . . . what kind of toppings did Bly order? I'm guessing green pepper and onion.

Literary historians want to know.

r
I'm also a student of Bly's, but not quite so critical. My battle for a father was over by the time I met him, and he had a lot to teach. (I just heard from him last week.)

I thought "Sibling" one of the best critiques I ever read of our society, and it was bombed in case you are not aware by the so called "critics." I think he became suspicious to them because he was also a cultural leader and not fashionable since he addressed men, and since they didn't understand that they missed the point.

I wonder often why he hasn't been named poet laureate, which so many lightweights are. You think maybe it has to do with politics?
Gee, how could that be in a country as grown-up as ours?
It's always interesting to read comments about someone you actually know, as I know Bob.....but it is in a very different context. Drums may be banged from time to time. Suffice it to say that neither of us likes the others poetry, and let it go at that. I like his non-fiction work much more than his fiction. He's really more philosopher than poet in my estimation.
I met Robert Bly in the 80s as well. It was a poetry reading and afterwards there was a party at one of the hip prof's houses. He was charismatic, sexy even (I was one of those literary co-eds) but cynical-- which took the edge off the sexy, much to the relief of the bf.
KERI: it is a good and true theory. We are adolescents in an adolescent empire.

CON: HE asked the kiddos what they wanted, is what he did……

BEN: mr bly could answer that better than me, but 1. Nobody wants a hint of male potency in their sociology and 2.the guys he trained no doubt were kinda Neanderthals, at least at the beginning..
We want poignant reflection of how ---evil, or unsure, or …maybe a bit salvageable , with a lot of work, we men.
Sage I utterly agree re. his nonfiction. Bob seemed a tired man, with something to prove. I was at the “when ya aint got nothing ya got nothing to prove” stage and still am……..


V: cynical is just a cloak these fellows wear. They are good boys, done wrong, but with big brains.
I agree with other comments. You melded past present and future together here in a wonderful way. Great story. The dance of living in the now. Rated
And everything in between.
:)
This was excellent. Sometimes the lofty professor types that we hold in such high regard turn out to be human after all - warts and all. You took the good and bad from the situation and saw it for what it was.
This was a really strong post. Thank you. R
He could have just been trailing off trying to think of some word that rhymed with pizza. That could dog a poet all night and make him seem washed up.
Mical, hippy to hippy: is there any other way than this melding? I doubt it.

Poor diary: absolutely! I espouse inclusiveity, especially in my Head. Good stuff in between. One must nt fear it.

Rita: well he was, and is, a good strong man. I tease him in an avuncular fashion. How I got to be an old poet’s uncle I dunno.

Also. Pizza is a sacred food. Therefore there is no rhyme for it. there is a reason for it. to truly enjoy yer food. Pizza is Italian, some say. Other s say, Chinese . I don’t give a flying f.
I wish I could have been a fly on the wall. A lot of people think famous writers, or famous musicians or actors know something we don't. Bullshit. They know how to wipe their ass (most of them) just like us. (except me, if my book happens to go viral. I will be very smart then)
scan,
correct. they know what we know. and say it.
in print. if yer book goes viral, you will
be high & mighty. then we will see
yr every utterance will be
a golden commodity.
i hope that for u.
Very nice!

I met a famous author once at college. Author of Giles, Goat Boy. Was invited to faculty reception because my poetry professor was very intent on sleeping with me. Kept inviting me up to see his greenhouse and his orchids up in the mountains.

I hope to be a boring English professor some day! Maybe not the boring, but, well. Thanks for this reminder of another time and place and point of view.
I don't know any poets. I knew a kid who grew up to be a poet but she won't talk to me. I sent her some of my poems and she never replied. So I'm in a kind of limbo about poets. And poetry. I assume they're people but you never know.
WREN, someone just recommended that book to me. It was thick and dense . I put it off…
You would make a fine English prof. leave the sweet boys alone though!!!!!

JAN, I don’t dig much poetry either, gotta say. It is too..ethereal for a hardheaded materialist mystic like me..tho i kinda dig yours!



I need solid ground…bly held his ground well..that is a skill I need, be it as a poet or a town clown…to hold my ground…………………….
hey listen ......bly was/is a cool guy.
so he is old and mean. they all are...i have found

yet he said..
"''sympathy
he longed for, didn't need, and wouldn't accept.''
Robert Bly (b. 1926),
Interesting. I was born in 1926 and don't consider myself an "old guy". As a matter of fact, I am anticipating adolescence.
The definition of adult behavior changes with every generation. What was immature in 1932, is considered totally naive and lame by today's standards. What was considered to be adult in 1958, is Neanderthal in today's cosmopolitan culture. The only constant for adult behavior is our individual and collective ability to meet our responsibilities, be productive and honor our agreements with one another, everything else is fashion and fad,
Oh,James, I have met Shakesρeare and Kiρling and Seferis and Elytis and Karyotakis and Whitman and so many more..Oh,my meetings and my discussions with them takes uρ all over my time.And they have even tasted my mothers gemista.They do eat,drink,cry,fear,die as all of us.The issue with them is that they made their talent their living,without they could not live.And because I like you I might introduce you to some great Greek thinkers and ρoets....

(You know,I am kidding).

I liked your story.I have never met a ρoet and to be honest the all so cultural and the mentalite,would bore me.I like simρlicity...Rated...
At 86 it's pretty goddamn impossible to be productive or even make any agreements to be responsible for. I, perhaps, might somehow attain the the respect given the average dachshund who has had doubtful toilet training.
Begorrah, but if Mr. Bly is not the spittin' image of Jeremiah Horrigan!! You got more out of the old bard than I did out of the Buddhist priest, who, when we were face to face in one of the cult's most sacred ceremonies, murmured to me - TO ME!! - some words I couldn't quite make out, so I leaned closer to hear them, experience the inevitable epiphany and go forth to spread wisdom and so forth amongst the people. He leaned forward, too, a little, on his throne-like chair, and murmured again (we were each biting down upon a leaf, an integral part of the ceremony). This time I was able to make out the life-changing words: "Will you please take your seat."

I did, and left the cult soon thereafter.
You meet some really interesting people.

BTW, walking would tone your legs and enhance their musculature... Then you could have unlimited discourse with G.
bly memories
chorus girls goochie
stuffed baby alligator grips
let loose old war ships
sinking in the summer rain
indigo illusions to puddles
black water swells
eskimos greet with sharp cries
leaving dogs and sheep sleeping
in some bamboo bar
the air of night recognizes
crickets crying hallelujiah
like coming full circle. Nice.
It's too bad that Bly was beyond listening and learning. His loss.
Enjoy your weekend.
James M. E. You have a knack that's Good.
If I recall old forgotten 'stuff' I get delighted.
I saw Good (he has his own blog) commenters.
Former Mean Mr. Mustard (Cluck A. Stetson)-
`
I remember a wonderful several days in PA..
No.
It wasn't with `rita shibr. I'd not forget that.
I'd bring her a straw Amish hat for 'Fat Tire'.
Wendell Berry was reading & writing a book.
`
Harlan Hubbard (sp?) No lend out hoe or book.
You will probably never see either of then again.
`
Last night I dreamt I gave a hat away. I was happy.
Harlan once saw a hat. He was lonely. He bought.
His thought was this`If he ever met a Good lover?
He imagined her wearing the garden hat some day.
`
True Story
`
He fell in Love with the Librarian. He gave her a hat.
I wish I could meet` Nancy (etc) Krulik. She no cruel.
`
She wrote George Brown - Class Clown - Help! I am
Stuck in a Giant Nostril - Illustrated 'Not' by Kim &
His Australian Friends - Illustrated by Aron Blecha
`
True Story - George (Your Friend? No) is trying hard.
George wants to be Burp-Free. When asleep, he Burps.
Then - George listens to a tape. In bed a tape repeats:
`
You Will Not Burp.
Burps follow George.
Folk are Pesky Folk.

He Burps Magically.
Burps are Belches.
He goes on Trips.
He Burps at Zoo.
Burps on Blogs?
Class Trip Burp.

George visits a Museum and he learns about the five sense. He Burps there. Burps erupt again in a human exhibit room called the:
`
Human Room In!
`
Honest -
He burps eating:
I am not jesting.
`
Spaghetti. Boogers. While Talking. Bragging. He thought his Burping would earn money. He Burps if eating Fried Eggs. The Yellow yoke spewed. His chin was Yellow. He attended The School Of:`
`
Edith B. Sugarman Elementary.
He was a Magical Burp Person.

He Burped if Chewing Gum.
It's anti Brag-ref: Big Burps.
He'd Burp Tapping Bellies.
George Burped if Singing.
`
The Cure Happened One Day.
The Class Visited a Big Circus.
I recall? He Burped His Candy.

He had Green Cotton Candy.
The Green Goo Exited Nose.
The Class Got Very Grossed.
`
I may get a few details mixed.
He Burped Out Blueberries.
He Burped at Smelling Bees.
`
There is a whole series of books.
`
I'll read:
Attack Of The Tighty Whities!
Honest:
There's Other So Odd Book Titles.
You See George's tight Jock-Briefs.
It's a Illustration on a Front Cover.
`
The author lives in New York City.
She has written 150 Children Books.
She's written up in ` New York Times.

She wrote the Popular ` Katie Kazoo.
She writes from stuff her child do do.

Aron Bleacha - He was raised by squid.
Honest:
He writes that. www.monstersquid.com
/
,

\
Her Focus is on `Laughter & Manners.
He Illustrates ` Zombiekins & Zachary.
It's an Adventure Series on Rotten folk.
P.S.
I didn't jest.
I didn't tease.
He's no lawyer.
Maybe he can be?
He'd be`Hypocrite?
He write Kook Book?
Maybe he get filthy?
He make lucre-book?
He make us Grouchy!
I woke up Half-Sleepy.
Alright one comment this mourning, I have to go, and my boy Jim is getting it (I’m involved in a landscaping project right now at my best friend Paul Rydels waterfront estate, that’s the guy who’s wife tried to kill him but the hitmen she hired killed his business partner, by accident, instead. You may have caught it on the TV talk circuits, and after that I shall be spending the weekend at my cousin Andrew Fenton’s estate. A few years ago he was written up as the most dynamic young business man in the tri state area. Only mentioning this because Skypixie recently accused me of being some poor slob who hates rich people. Nothing could be further from the truth!). As anybody who has read my comments should know I have little use for the English “poetry” of academia, Blake aside of course. Sorry Professor pasty face but in my book poetry should provide a window into mans soul. In all truth I have never read Robert Bly not do I intend to. Academia has befouled everything that was once divine in man. Any asshole who is ready willing and able to perform fellatio on some sickly looking sub creature with an English doctorate is now called a poet. The real poets that shall be read a thousand years from now if there is anybody left to read them were Bob Dylan, Jim Morrison, Jimmy Carroll, Paul Simon, and a few others. As Fredrick Nietzsche said in the ‘The Birth of Tragedy’ the book that established his credentials as a demi God. Poetry is a young mans game. A instantaneous Dionysian manifestation of the archetypical conditions: wine, celebration, and sorrow that constitute the human soul. Where as the novel or play requires the careful time-consuming premeditation of Apollo. Nietzsche also said beware the fish eyed scholar because he secretly hates you and wants to destroy that which makes you great because he is dead from the neck down and wages relentless war against the sexual organs that make you so much greater than he can ever be!

Let me give you a little example and experiment you can try on some moonlit deserted beach. Try reciting Shakespeare’s love sonnet to your love interest:

Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove:
O no! it is an ever-fixed mark
That looks on tempests and is never shaken;
It is the star to every wandering bark,
Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken.

And after she asks you to drive her home because she has a headache and not to call her anymore try Jimmy Carroll the next time luck knocks at your door. Go to the same beach:

I feel her skin . . . it's thin and white as pressed milk
I closed my eyes and she vanished just like burnt silk
And what remains was like some fallen thunder
And my lips were chained; they were filled with empty wonder

You don’t have to thank me just go out and do it. I can almost guarantee you will reenact the love seen From Here to Eternity. But then what would the fish eyed scholar know about that?
PHYLLIS : My legs are pretty well toned for an almost 45 yr old man who has lean svelte limbs, some say ‘skinny’ but I say, strong. Strong enough to get me over to the library on foot. In rain or shine. I don’t think I want unlimited discourse with G. I may go insane. The old man never shuts up….

CHUCK: I am delighted to see you are back. In finer form than ever.
I wonder: is the PRIDE wearing off yet?
(we live in the same vicinity, chuck and i)
We had a pride week.
I am busting with it.
Overflowing!


CATHYFull circles a lot better than my usual ellipses, or just …flat lines!

JL: he was magnificently charismatic, but just not…sparkling…I am rarely sparkling myself.


ARTHUR: I am glad you cleared that up.
Re. being with Rita, giving her a hat.
She has been spreading rumors of secret rendezvous.
She said you and she in PU went up the highway,
and came back down it.
that you visited Plymouth Rock.
Had a nude reenaction of the Pilgrim landing.
Then went to Boston and ate baked beans
& visited Bunker hill for another (half nude) reenaction
Of American history.
Eventually rita had to return, so you gave her bus fare home.
She kept the money, and hitchhiked.
With bus fare she bought, yes, you guessed it, yet another new hat.

Now that I think of it, it was me who said all this,
Growing bored and angry with your absence.
,
You collapse and expand Time at once here. Bravo! r.
JACK: i will thank u anyway.
as always, you say it with more ...exuberant venom...than i can
spit out. Doesnt mean i dont feel it though.
those english instructors are in it for the coeds.
I got no doubt of that.
(now that i think of it, why the f. didnt i ever go into Academia???)
(oh yeah, i flunked out.......)

I am gonna scour the beaches of cape cod with dylan on
the ipod and that poem written on the back of my hand.



JAN: I am happy to hear that 86 is not as awful as was rumored.
Rumored by you, I gotta say. The other day.
I wish I was in my 80’s.
Like you, and Art, and Chicken.
Then we could be the OLD MEN’s club, and have meetings.
Issue edicts, on OS.
As it is, I am just a pipsqueak.
Too young to issue edicts. Too young for gravitas.

CHICKEN: this no doubt was the extent of your spiritual learning.
The path ended there.
I would rather practice naked yoga with a young, glowing, nude instructor.
Male or female.
No I am kidding. Female.
James M. E. Jack Hart needs a relaxation In Nova Scotia. Ig Warren Buffet Grants . . .
or
Lends me a Loan that is not 21st century USURY I will ask HELP! Then -
I build.
I'll have Help building a Bed-Bunk-Breakfast B&B. Serious. Bloggers can visit.
The Sea.
The ocean front Land 'deed' hold is on 3.9 Acres. There's more Timber Land.
I'd not cut Trees.
No cut Trees Down.
We could eat berries.
I ask Warren Buffet.

He needs getaway.
Everybody does.
Stay two weeks.
`
I am not loco crazy.
It too nice a Place.
It's to be Shared.
I invite editors?
Gadget hookup?
No!
Just shush up!
Walk Beaches!
Eat a Lobster!
`
No pass gas.
Be so quiet.
Watch duck.

I saw baby ducks
I saw processions
I cried happy tears
`
Get Tear Tattoos.
Tears on Cheeks.
No Fast-Foods.
No chew fast.
Shut Your Big mouth.
No eat open mouthed.
Just Smile at Nature.
`
Rita translates dreams.
I dream I flunk a GED.

I visited my Physicist.
O flunk kindergarden.
No start joy-rumors

We sip a spot of tea.
I am serious. Share.
I cook good muffins
`
I have never bummed.
I feel like Panhandling.
It be for Good Causes.
`
Maybe a mini-miracle?
Life is a Miracle. Yup.
I'll think positive. Ah!
all the dad a dude would need. awww.

i want pizza.

and to be on the beach in cape cod. man oh man.
ART: this would be a perfect spot to unwind.
This place you propose.
Jack Heart and I need much much unwinding.
Take old Jan Sand out on the ..ha..sandy beach,
Offer him a raft? To float out to sea, eskimo style?
No, tease.
No old men sent out to sea.
Old men needed for the campfire at night.
Scantily clad os gals & guys eating lobster, drinking wine,
telling stories.
Daisyjane there, would she share her pizza?
If I had a pizza, I would grudgingly share.
We could built a tree fort, since no trees are to be cut down.
We could build a network of forts in the trees,
And swing on ropes between them, bringing gifts , iike, maybe pizza?
Past...present...future

James,are you still wondering about what position to take?

It is the PRESENCE that counts if you want to be able to enter the inner circle of wisdom.
You have actually been very fortunate to have met him.
His book has become famous."Iron John;a book about men"
...last but not least:Rated
Yes indeed he was like an old Lion. Thanks for sharing this moment because moments with Poets are rare and few in life.
Ah retrospect...the Curse of the poet...Too bad reality tends to pierce the armor of the angriest man and scuttle the rhymers and writers among us alike. Very intriguing, thought-provoking post...
this is a special post. it should have been EP'd for sure. really beautiful. you know how to wrap it up my friend. :D
I've known and helped found men's organization that specifically reached out to "Neanderthals" if I understand you correctly. What I found profound was how Robert et. al. reached out to men with poetry and fables--hardly the stuff of cretans.

I have no idea what you mean by "nobody wants a hint of male potency in their sociology." It was because Bly is so resolutely a Jungian, free from the usual ideological cant that makes him more than a simple minded moralist.

I'm not sure we're talking about the same guy, or certainly seeing him in the same way.
I can see by the comments that the "legend" of Bly is already purging the reality, yet that doesn't prevent the usual projections and conjecture based on false information. His biographer will have their work cut out for them.

The worst might be over, however, as I see no feminist screeds. It's a brave man who breaches the barracades of gender stereotyping in our time. Even though I don't think there was a chauvinist bone in his body, it's a set-up even to bring up.

I thought his seminars with Marion Woodman among the most enlightening I've ever attended, and had more to say about the condition between the sexes than anything else I've heard before of since.
I can see by the comments that the "legend" of Bly is already purging the reality, yet that doesn't prevent the usual projections and conjecture based on false information. His biographer will have their work cut out for them.

The worst might be over, however, as I see no feminist screeds. It's a brave man who breaches the barracades of gender stereotyping in our time. Even though I don't think there was a chauvinist bone in his body, it's a set-up even to bring up.

I thought his seminars with Marion Woodman among the most enlightening I've ever attended, and had more to say about the condition between the sexes than anything else I've heard before or since.
I read Iron John, and I thot Bly made some good points, but he didn't offer much for solutions. Beating a drum and getting all weepy and confessional strikes me as a piss-poor substitute for the rites of passage of "primitives".

In any case, even in our disjointed culture any boy who becomes a man goes thru some sort of rite of passage, even if it's not formalized. Boys who don't don't become men -- they remain boys.

Want a prime example? Look at Mitt, who despite his "success" has never gotten out of his daddy's long shadow -- and it shows in his discomforting awkwardness, his adolescent attempts at humor, and his transparent braggadocio. Mitt has never been thru the gauntlet, and thus he has no character.

But enough words wasted on a cipher, let's talk about something useful -- like my wide ass. Sitting is a lost art that I have managed to develop some fondness for as my knees and back and get up and go give slowly out. The more I sit, the more I think -- that seems to me a pretty good trade off.
Meeting our heroes is usually such a disappointment. R
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Separate the poet from his poetry. Separate his prose from his poetry. The poetry yes, the rest, no. Thanks for you honesty.