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Jason D. Hill

Jason D. Hill
Location
Chicago, Illinois, United States
Birthday
June 10
Title
Associate Professor of Philosophy
Company
De Paul University
Bio
Jason D. Hill, Ph.D is an academic philosopher and fiction writer. He is the author of 3 books: "Becoming A Cosmopolitan: What it means to be a Human Being in the New Millennium." (Rowman&Littlefield, 2000); "Beyond Blood Identities: Post Humanity in the 21st Century," (Lexington Books, 2009) and "When We Should Not Get Along: Cosmopolitanism and Cultural Differences," (Anthem Press, January 2011). He has written for salon magazine, and penned several newspaper editorials in Europe and the United States. He was born and raised in Jamaica and in 1985, at the age of 20, came to America to become an artist. He has just completed his novel called, "Jamaica Preacher Man."

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DECEMBER 5, 2008 2:19PM

Dirty Condoms And Smelly Butts: The Worst Job I've Ever Had

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The worst job I ever had was as a Visa credit card collector at First Atlanta bank in Atlanta, Georgia. I’d been in America for only three weeks and had no banking experience, having worked as a journalist in Jamaica before leaving. But times were getting tough. I needed to save up money to buy a car and to start school the following year.

The training seminar went well. Strangely, the training manager was a fellow Jamaican who was committed to professionalism and dignity. Never yell at a customer, she warned us. Never eviscerate the dignity of anyone, and always start the conversation with: “Mrs. So and So, I’m Mr. Clark from First Atlanta. How are you? That’s wonderful. I’m calling because your account is 30 days past due with us. When can we expect a payment?”

Sounded easy enough, I reasoned.

And then all hell broke loose on the phone. My first customer, a curmudgeon and a racist from Alabama said to me: “Boy where you from? You got an accent.” I told her I was from Jamaica. “Well I don’t want no stinking nigger “ferner” telling me ‘bout that card. Had it for thirty years back when you was in diapers” She then went on to ask me how long I’d been working at the bank.  I told her three weeks.

That was too much. She demanded to speak to my supervisor who also happened to be Jamaican (boy, we’re everywhere). I don’t know what my supervisor said to her, but she reminded me not to call her back for another three days; anything under that could be interpreted as harassment.

The following week, another customer asked if I wanted some of his ass for Thanksgiving as a gesture of goodwill and intent to pay.

“No, I don’t want your smelly ass (Uh, Uh, I’d broken the golden rule right there) I want the bank’s money.”

Two days later he sent in what I thought was a payment but, instead, turned out to be two dirty condoms with a note saying: You’re next. And I was next. No kidding. This asshole sent in a raw turkey via Fed Ex with its oversized rump tied into a neat knot and another condom draped over it. This guy was creative. There was no message this time. The turkey smelled just awful.

I was breaking down.

The worst part, really, was cancelling the credit cards of old ladies who had been up to date on all their payments for thirty years or more, but because of illness, had spiraled into debt and reneged on their payments. One eighty-five year old black woman from Mississippi said to me, her voice creaking with age and emotion: “Mr. Hill, Sir, I raised my three children on Visa and my two grandchildren. I sent them to school on that card. When I had no health insurance, I used it to pay doctor’s bills. If you take away that card, you done take away my life.”

Another supervisor who had been monitoring the call, a real meanie, came over, stood at my desk and gave me one of those: “bitch, please” looks.

“Cover dat phone, now.” She barked.

I obeyed. “Alright child,’” She began. “You need to be tellin’ her she needs to have a yard sale or sumpmn’. She eight-five, she got shit pilin’up she needs to git rid of. Tell her sell some of her jewelry, her wedding ring. Ah don’t care what! We need our money tadaaay! Okay? Okay.”

As the supervisor walked back to her seat to finish monitoring the call, I looked up at some of my black co-workers, many of whom had called me an Oreo a few weeks earlier because of the way I had talked and walked, they declared. “Walk like he own the damn place,” they had said.

Eventually, I called back the eighty-five year old woman and did something that could have gotten me fired, but something that I had had the power to do anyway. I told her to send a minimum of $15 (her minimum payment was $100), and that I’d re-instate the account. She wept and said God bless me and that she would pay it off. I knew she couldn’t. She had racked up $150,000 in medical bills on the card. But by the wonders of technology, I placed her account in the current file and deleted all her phone numbers.

After six months of having to cancel the accounts of good, decent, and hard-working Americans, and after finding myself growing into a harsh and insensitive human being, I quit. I had eviscerated the dignity of too many people and allowed my temper to flare too often. The last straw was when a teacher told me that I was too young to be a collector and that I was just a clerk.

I said: “Let’s get one thing straight. I am a clerk, but I’m not the one with bad credit. I don’t have a credit card balance. And guess what? I’m looking at your credit report. It sucks. I have good credit. You won’t be able to even bail yourself out of debtor’s prison if you continue on your present track. And plus, lady, I’ve got my school fees saved up already for next year. So the joke’s on you.”

She was furious and demanded to speak to my supervisor.

“I’m not a telephone operator. Please hang up and call back and go through the proper channels.” And with that I hung up on her.
And with that, I laughed. I knew this job wasn’t worth it. It wasn’t for me. I quit my job, started school and never looked back on the year of dirty condoms, swollen, smelly turkey butts, and old-school racists.

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Oh my. I am glad that is in your past ;0)
Man, that was a tough read. Human nature is sometimes lovely, but often a sewer. Whew. Those types of jobs suck when you have them but they provide an invaluable motivation to keep out of them.
So, you didn't like this job because.....?
Kills the soul, doesn't it?

Yours in former bill collector solidarity--gregor mendel
I thought this was also incredibly funny! I was on the floor especially with how you dealt with that last person. LOL. Rated! Rated!
Jason, that was a tough job. Not exactly the epitome of the American dream, but all too real. I hope America has been better to you over the passing years. There's no shortage of assholes here, that's for sure.

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Peace,
Greg
rated having a heart. for risking your job to help an elderly woman.
Good heavens!!! That was definitely not the best job for a great guy like you ... not even close!!!
This story is going to be hard to top! Bless your heart trying to help out that old lady. And I'm amazed that guy had the energy to mail used condoms and a raw turkey -- I guess you have to admire his commitment!

Great post!
Jason,

Great writing as usual. Good to see you back in action.

Ain’t capitalism great?! It’s good you were able to escape that terminal job. I’ve had a few like that, too. I’ve never lasted in them, though, nor have I ever done well with “sales”. I’m just not a bullshitter.

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what is even more amazing than this story is the fact that some people make careers out of this kind of work. It really is like selling one's soul.

excellent post, Jason.
What a great story. And to hell with those meanies--although I'm a meanie myself. I think you have integrity Jason. Good that you went on to become a philosopher and author of a book which I think I'll buy afterall.
Oh, By the way to our Editors: WHY IS THIS PIECE NOT DESERVING OF EDITOR'S PICK? Come on guys, do the right thing.
I had a collector once call me. I kept him on hold while my grandson went to the bathroom and held the phone next to the toilet.
I have to admit to some grudging respect for anyone who mails a turkey. Anyone who puts that much effort into being a complete douchebag is to be somewhat admired. Nice post.
yow.

u need to write a sitcom. or something. it can run right after nip/tuck.
Ugh, that's some awful stuff. People can be cruel and disgusting, that's for sure! It was very nice of you to put that woman's payment at $15.
viscious, you got your wish on the editor's pick.
(that's actually how i found it.)
Thanks you all. Yeah, the job was lousy but it helped get me through those undergraduate years when I had to work 40 hours per week and go to school full time.
Dave what kind of sitcom did you have in mind?
So many sick people! Excellent writing!
This makes me mad about many things, including racism, overspending and the credit card industry. I didn't know what to expect when I read your title, and what I got was lots of things to think about and a good read.
I knew exactly what to expect when I read the title, and I wasn't the least bit surprised.

It seems that chronic malcontents always find their vocabulary in the toilet. Something to ponder.
First, Jason, it is great to have you back blogging again. I missed your work and so did a lot of the others.

This is first rate. I could never do collections work. And I admire the fact that you put your moral center ahead of the job. When you were done you still had you, and could look the man in the mirror in the eyes and approve of him.

Monte
Wow. I'm happy for that you left such a horrible environment. Talk about being surrounded on all sides. That said, good for you and your good deeds while you were working there.
Given the headline, I imagined the worst...still, pretty bad. Whenever I get a telemarketing call (no creditors yet, but the recession is just getting started), I'll think of this story and probably be a little nicer. You never know who you might be talking to.
I am always nice to telemarketers, etc. I figure they are the ones with the crappy job and most people are terrible to them. I just say thanks, but no thanks, wish them a good day and go on about my way. You are the perfect example of a nice, good person who was working a hard, soul wracking job. You gotta do what you gotta do to pay the bills, right?
Great post. Glad you aren't in collections any more. I couldn't do it.
Good post! Glad you helped that lady in MS (I am from there, too). I worked for Comcast one summer and had people begging me to turn their cable back on. The trainer told us that TV to some people was like crack to an addict. It was.
Wow, that sounds truly awful.

I love what you did for the 85 year old lady. Power to the people!
OMG Jason, you worked there too?

Just kidding. I didn't work at First Atlanta, but I did work as a credit collector for a bank in Nashville one summer. I knew I had hit my limit when I had to make a call to one "Velvet Jones" (which is the same name as an old Saturday Night Live character) and she told me that she couldn't make her payment because she had spent most of her money getting leopard-fur seat covers in her Mercedes. She asked if could I just wait another week. She told me she probably had enough baby formula and diapers for her twins, and that she could forgo the electric bill, but her acrylic nails were looking too bad to go to the club, so she really needed to get them redone.

God bless the people who put up with these folks, as annoying as they.... ahem.... we.... might be!
Jason,

You were earning some good karma there. It was a very nice thing you did for that woman--both of them in fact, because the last one you write about, really did need that telling off.
Thanks m.a.h I do strongly believe in Karm. That place was a den of spiteful, disgruntled people who were more motivated by sadism than professional integrity
I applaud you for having the decency to notice that you have changed and to sacrifice money for your soul instead of the other way around.

I know what it feels like to have someone call you an Oreo, because you decided that being understood by many was more important than being understood by few. It will get better; i just dont know when.
Very good. American capitalism needs more stories like this. If people had told the truth ... truth to power, truth to money: We might even survive it.
I worked for Citi Bank doing customer service. Collections was on a different floor. We wouldn't even talk to "those people" because their job and attitude carried over to the lunch room.

I took a call from a man who did a $125K zero % balance transfer then sent the payment in late. Well the computer put it in default and raised his interest to 29.99%. He opened the bill just seconds before my phone rang. I forget the interest charge something like $8700 per month.

Let's just say that I know how Jason feels. You would think I just sex with his teenage daughter or something.

I always wondered, how can you get to a position where you can have credit cards with quarter million dollar credit limits and have $125k in bills that you can't pay? On top of that how can they be so stupid to not realize you have to make the payment on time?

I don't know who some of us live on a "normal person's" salary?
BTW, a sitcom about all the stupid stuff you hear would be great. Like the lady who called me to help her with her son's math home work.

The problem said something like her credit card bill was $125 dollars. She charged 15.25 had an interest charge of 2.96 and make a payment of 25.00. what was her beginning balance.

My supervisor heard me doing the math problem and explaining how to solve it. She just stood there and looked at me. She reached over and hit the button so another call wouldn't ring thru to ask me what that was about.

She just shook her head and walked away after hearing what was going on.
Thanks for the advice Cantlion. I'll think about the sitcom. Banks get away with this because they cajole customers into taking high interest, high balance credit cards..they also offer emptying the entire balance of your credit card right into your checking account. "Hi Mr. Lewis, how would you like to wake up in the morning to find $23,000 in your checking account?"
No kidding I've seen them do this.
Wow. Things have changed. Check out the movie Maxed Out. Look at what the collections people do now.

They pretty much let you do just about anything other than threatening to send Vinnie over to break both of their kneecaps!
THanks Tony. Will check it out
I'm so pleased to have found your post. I have an unlisted phone number that I have had for nearly six years. There is some creditor calling for the person who owned this number before it became mine. Relentless I tell you. Automated. Messages galore. I'm too afraid to engage them and say a word. They may decide that they should have the right to my bone marrow. What's a girl to do?
Rated for human kindness and a great story.