NOVEMBER 10, 2008 4:19AM

Why I’m not a bullying atheist (when I can help it)

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I think it’s mainly as a response to the rapid growth of Evangelicalism that the Dawkinesque style of (let’s say) “militant” atheism has gained ground over the last couple of years. I am talking about people like Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, who no longer try to hide their contempt for the more religious among us – they simply let rip, in essence calling anyone who follows a religion a deluded fool, and usually a dangerous one too.

In saying this, I am not overlooking the rise of fundamentalist Islam as a factor in generating atherist militancy. There’s no doubt that, as fundamentalist Islam has lately taken a major place in world events, it has brought home just how hard to tell the difference between a Christian fundamentalist and a Jewish or Muslim one. But even so, it’s the Christian wing of fundamentalism that, I think, exercises minds like Dawkins’s and Harris’s the most. Their contempt, if I can put it this way, is mainly reserved for the fundamentalists who should know better: those who are lucky enough to live in a country where a more secular alternative is right there in the mainstream, and where science and history are readily accessible.

Before I go any further: I am not saying that the Dawkinses and Harrises and Hitchenses of the world are wrong. I agree with most of what they say: like Dawkins, I think that filling a young head with religious nonsense is a form of child abuse, just as filling the same head with other kinds of misleading nonsense such as racial ideology would be. I agree with Sam Harris that most of what passes for religion is simply the canonised distillation of ancient ignorance. And I agree with Hitchens that the Ten Commandments are notably odd for their lack of prohibition on rape, cruelty to children, genocide, or slavery. And of course they aren’t alone;  I was prompted to start this post by other posts such as this one from Thomas Huber and this one from DesertOrchid.

Those guys, all of them, are right to find religion ridiculous.

But I’m not a militant atheist myself. I don't go for calling people deluded or criticising them for hypocrisy. I have been – in my teens and twenties, I rarely hesitated to call a Christian an idiot, even though it didn’t always make me a lot of friends to do so, and if I’d met more Muslims I probably would have called them idiots too. I saw it as a matter of principle - how can you bite your tongue when you know someone's wrong about something? But to be honest,  looking back I sometimes feel that whether or not I was right, I was still a bit wrong.

So I am not usually a militant atheist any more, and here is why: I actually want to reduce the damage religion wreaks on the world, in whatever small way I can. For me, changing the world usually means writing or talking. I am not saying I have a lot of influence through these avenues, only that they are all I’ve got. And since all the writing and all the talking I can manage in my lifetime is certainly not going to culminate in world-wide atheism (and I’ve got a lot of other stuff to attend to as well!), I look at it one of those things where you have to pick your battles.

Picking my battles, I don’t really worry about the does-God-exist stuff. I can’t deny that, in my opinion, people who believe in God are a bit silly, but they aren’t necessarily doing any harm. The dangerous ones are the ones who believe a particular text to be the actual word of God. They’re the ones who believe that a book (or a Pope) is infallible, that the will of God is knowable by us or by our leaders, or that God takes sides in our geopolitical struggles. If I tried to illustrate that exhaustively, I’d be here all night, typing out story after story, so instead I will just ask you to look up any random excess of religion in the news (and there are many of them from suicide bombings to elections), and note that in each and every case, the perpetrators thought they were doing what God wanted them to do.

There’s a second reason for leaving the does-God-exist question out of it, too. It’s to do with evidence. In one sense, absolutely nothing can be proven – you could just be a brain floating in a vat imagining everything including me, and we’d never be able to prove otherwise. But at the common-sense, beyond-a-reasonable-doubt level, there are all kinds of things we can prove with concrete, observable evidence. I am talking about the level of evidence that lets us say, “Christopher Columbus sailed to the Americas”, or “Elizabeth I reigned over England from 1558 to 1603.” We could be wrong about those things, but if so then we are not very far wrong, or if we are very far wrong, then there has been a conspiracy to fool us that is too vast to contemplate.

To this standard of proof, we really can prove that Darwin was essentially right about evolution; we humans didn’t live at the same time as dinosaurs, and we are indeed descendents of primates quite different to ourselves. We can prove that the Bible, along with all those other books, was written by men, and indeed by men who knew almost nothing about almost everything. We can prove, to this real-world standard, that whoever wrote the story of Noah’s Ark knew less about biology or the scale of earthly life than a five-year-old who has just come home from a day at the zoo.

In all of science, evolution is one of the most beautiful theories to lay out for somebody. It is a pity it’s become so controversial, because it is the archetypal case study for how scientific discovery happens. It is so simple, yet so far-reaching and world-changing. If anyone wants to know, I explain it as really just two basic ideas: firstly, that when living organisms have offspring, those offspring are slightly different from the parents. And secondly, that some members of each generation will have more offspring than others. Most people would agree that both of those things make obvious sense, and then all you have to do is put them in an environment where some changes are more advantageous than others, and away you go. That doesn’t get you all the way through the theory of evolution, but it is a good start, and there are real-world examples that demonstrate this process within a human timeframe. In other words (and with a bit more work than I’ve just done), we can prove that evolution, and not Genesis, explains our origins.

Unlike evolution, the question of whether God exists is not provable, even to that common-sense, court-of-law standard. We can offer alternative explanations for why believing in God seems so innate, and why it is so easy to see the hand of God in everything. Thus, we are prone to anthropomorphising things – not just animals and so on, but the universe itself, and perceive a human-like “purpose” in everything that happens. I once woke up in a darkened bedroom and saw a human figure crouched in my room! A few moments later, I realised it was the vacuum cleaner, with a few bits of clothing hanging on the handle from unfinished housecleaning the night before. Thinking we are seeing people in this way, when we are actually only seeing objects is a common event for most of us – that is just one example of the many times it’s happened to me. I believe this tendency is an evolutionary adaptation, a survival mechanism: as humans, our intelligence is disproportionately huge not because we needed to figure out how to use tools, but because we are so extraordinarily social. For as long as we have been around, we have (on the one hand) been most endangered by our fellow humans, and (on the other hand) depended for our survival on those same fellow humans more than on any other resource. So of course when something happens we attribute human purposes to it! We had better err on the side of thinking the vacuum cleaner is a menacing human attacker, rather than think the human attacker is a vacuum cleaner!

So we anthropomorphise. We think of fate as a person, God as a person, and think that the universe around us has human motivations. It’s innate in our make-up to think this way, and I think that is why we tend to believe in God.

But that is not proof that God doesn’t exist. It’s the best I can do, but it’s not really that much if someone really wants to believe God’s out there.
In the same way, we have a bounty of evidence for evolution, but we don’t have anywhere near as much evidence as to how life began. We have a lot of conjecture and nothing concrete. So when somebody says, “wait, all this evolution stuff has to go back to somewhere... what did the first life evolve from?”, the only real answer is that we don’t know. One way or another, I think it was chance. But we can’t prove that in the same way that we can prove what happened after life began - it evolved into us!

So I don’t get into those ones any more: I’m not a militant atheist. Heck, I don’t even start conversations on these topics, and I am certainly glad to get through an evening without them coming up. Maybe if I met more fundamentalists I would be more active about it, but as things are, these are just the sorts of things I’ll talk about if evolution or the Bible come up in a conversation. Nor do I have any idea whether I’ve “converted” anyone away from a belief in creationism. The only thing I am really saying is that going straight for the there-is-no-God jugular doesn’t seem to achieve much, so I focus on the provable – the life around us is a product of evolution, the Bible is no more God’s Word than a Spiderman comic is, and therefore it is our individual and personal responsibility to decide what’s right and wrong, and we certainly shouldn't be thinking that God cares how we dress or whether we eat shellfish. I think if we could all agree on that, religion wouldn't do much damage any more. There would still be some religious beliefs floating around that I found absurd, but hey... absurd's okay, provided it's harmless as well.

Sorry for the long post... just a few random thoughts, in between the "real" writing. :)

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I see some Christopher Hitchens writing style/influence in your post. However, yours was easier to read. Thank you for that.

Good post.
Having been super-religious in my youth and early adulthood, I occasionally border on militant thoughts and reactions to my believing friends. Then, I step back, reflect that I don't know all the answers either, and largely remain mum on the issue. Your excellent post will, no doubt, echo in my brain next time I have a strong desire to do battle with a Christianoid. . .
Nice essay, Jason. It strikes a chord with me.
I like your live-and-let-live approach. I think there is quite a bit of common ground between religious and non-religious people (or Christians and atheists).

I used to consider myself an atheist, I have read Sam Harris' books, and they make A LOT of sense in pointing out real absurdities in fundamentalist Christianity. They don't really address the philosophic possibility of God (i.e. as a force that keeps things in existence), and no one can really address the origin of the universe (i.e. how the Big Bang came to happen and had precisely the right energy to allow the universe to form). If we could really know how the universe came to be and how the primordial soup of proteins and free molecules on the early Earth led to nucleic acids that were stable enough to lead to organisms over many, many years (which was a highly improbable outcome), I think we would have a semblance of an answer. I also find metaphysical studies interesting and have seen some evidence (anecdotal and scientific) that consciousness isn't entirely limited to the skull contents. That's why even though Christianity is too large of a leap for my scientific mind to be able to make, at least at this point in my life, I can stay open-minded to the possibility of some kind of force being involved in it all and realize that we probably don't know more than a fraction of how things really work at the non-visible level.
I also find metaphysical studies interesting and have seen some evidence (anecdotal and scientific) that consciousness isn't entirely limited to the skull contents.

What scientific evidence would that be?
First...Thanks for the shout out.

Second...I think when I mentioned hypocrisy in my post people got really offended. It was not my intention to call all Christians hypocrites. It just think it is hypocritical to have a book as the cornerstone of your "religion", but you only interpret it to mean what you want it to mean. And sometimes they even leave out certain parts, so that it matches what they want their religion to mean to them. Get what I'm saying?

Anyway, great post. It continues to amaze me that Americans are soooo protective of their religions. It's a way of life and everyone has the right to choose one.
Excellent post, Jason, although you do tend to make the usual atheistic mistake of assuming it is an either or thing—either you believe in a god or you believe there are no gods. As with most atheists, you phrase it in a way that makes it seem you are merely saying: Either you believe in a god or you don’t (which is quite different)—but the underlying argument of the remainder of your essay belies that. (Strong and weak atheism is an absurdity!)

Fact is, one can either believe (that is, blindly guess) that there is a god—or one can believe (that is, blindly guess) that there are no gods—or one can simply acknowledge that one does know the true nature of Reality (which is actually the question being considered) and that blindly guessing on the question really makes no sense.

I did enjoy your essay, though.
one can simply acknowledge that one does know the true nature of Reality (which is actually the question being considered) and that blindly guessing on the question really makes no sense.

Aren't statements along these lines self-refuting? That is, how can one say that no one knowns the true nature of reality, if the true nature of reality is unknowable?
Rob - I'm plugging my way through Measuring the Immeasurable (which is a collection of studies and essays by scientists, physicians and psychologists, many of which were published in journals before inclusion into the book). There are also cases of apparent reincarnation, studies looking at distant material manifestations of conscious intentions (like participants altering laser beams and other weird contraptions), and some near-death experience data published in journals listed on PubMed/Medline. I try to apply scientific scrutiny to all research studies but also keep an open mind. Results are often not concrete, but sometimes are compelling and always pretty intriguing. I find nuggets of believability in some of them, especially in cases when no "natural" explanation is possible for someone knowing/recalling something.
As an atheist or probably more accurately, an agnostic who thinks there is probably no God, the only thing that I am militant about is separation of church and state. I am sick and tired of fundamentalist Christians claiming that we are a nation founded on Christian principles. We are a nation founded on a Constitution that guarantees the freedom to practice whatever religion you want, including no religion, without state interference or sponsorship. I also have no patience for the patently ridiculous idea that morality springs from faith, when the faithful are the first line of proof that this is imply not the case.

I do struggle with your nicely stated idea that it might be better to work to reduce the harm of religious belief than to simply share my contempt for certain religious beliefs/hypocrisies.
Thanks, buckeyedoc. I'll have to take a look. My most recent comment was prompted by my reading of Simon Blackburn's Truth: A Guide which is excellent so far.
Rob St. Amant quoted me saying: “…one can simply acknowledge that one does know the true nature of Reality (which is actually the question being considered) and that blindly guessing on the question really makes no sense”…

…and then asked: “Aren't statements along these lines self-refuting? That is, how can one say that no one knowns the true nature of reality, if the true nature of reality is unknowable? “

No, they are not self-refuting.

In any case, I do not KNOW that no one knows the true nature of reality. If there are people who do KNOW the true nature of reality—they do not fit into the discussion I was pursuing. My discussion went to the tendency of people who DO NOT KNOW, but for whatever reason set up a dichotomy which implies that a guess has to be made. A guess does not have to be made (BY PEOPLE WHO DO NOT KNOW); a simple acknowledgement that they do not know should be sufficient—and an acknowledgement that they are making blind guesses when they offer beliefs seems appropriate also.

By the way, just as I do not KNOW that no one knows the true nature of reality—I also do not KNOW that the true nature of reality IS unknowable. I suspect no one knows the true nature of reality and I suspect the true nature of reality is unknowable…but strange things have happened in this world, and nothing would surprise me.
"Truth: A Guide" looks intruguing from its Amazon write-up. I'll have to check it out. I've been trying to find good books on atheism, agnosticism, belief and philosophy to better feel out where I am. I've found some good books from the atheist perspective, and I've read The Agnostic Reader, but it is hard to find good books that take a perspective of logic and philosophy to examine the possibility of God. Michael Novak tries, but he lapses into the Christian viewpoint and biblical verse and loses me. Anyway, I like books examining the intersection of philosophy and religion or the way we think about spirituality.
Truth: A Guide is readable but dense. I'd been expecting something a bit more accessible, along the lines of Blackburn's earlier popular books, Think and Being Good. But this one dives right into some meaty stuff; it's hard reading for me, even if a philosopher would probably find it all pretty familiar, I'd guess.
Gosh, thanks for all the comments. I appreciate all of them (seriously - comments are the reward system here and I value them) but will just comment back on some.

Rijaxn: Of the three authors I named, I found Hitchens the most readable. He adds a layer of wit that just manages to take away the bitterness that Dawkins seems to have these days. And Harris's book - honestly I couldn't get all the way to the end. It got repetitive and, frankly, off-topic imho.

Larry: Larry, I am not talking about who has a responsibility to prove what, I am talking about where you can actually gain any ground in the argument, in the real world where a lot of people are hidebound in their beliefs. I agree with you that there's no God and the balance of evidence points that way, but when you come down to it that is the weakest bone to pick with most religions. It's much easier to demonstrate that the other stuff is wrong, so why not start there? (I'm not saying you have to agree... I'm just explaining where I was coming from.) For what it's worth, in your comment I think you conflate belief in god with devotion to a literal Bible or other text; part of what I was getting at is that when you're tackling religious belief, it can be very helpful to keep the two distinct.

Buckeyedoc: I agree, clearly we all have a lot of common ground once religion is off the table. (Like Rob St Amant, I'd be interested in hearing about those metaphysical studies, too, but you'd have to anticipate a lot of argument if you posted about them!)

I am not sure if I've overstated my own live-and-let-liviness in my post, which might make me seem more commendably mild-mannered than I really am. I get hellishly frustrated with people who believe in all that stuff, especially (but not exclusively) when it has harmful consequences in the real world.

I just feel that I, personally, can argue more cogently against some specifics of real religions, like the literal truth of the Bible or papal infallibility, than I can against a generic belief in God or "some higher power." This doesn't mean I believe in the higher power, it just means that I don't usually waste my breath challenging that aspect of religion any more.

People kill every day because they believe certain texts are the word of God, but people with a generic "oh well I dunno about particular religions, but I do believe there's a greater power than me out there" kind of take on life don't seem to kill for their beliefs.
Jason,

Like you, I don’t really care if someone believes in a god, although, I do find such belief to be a destructive force in society, and I do care when that belief affects my life, my existence, and the existence of all the important aspects of my life like government policy, foreign affairs, wars, and an endless array of issues.

It is clear we are in agreement concerning religion, so let me engage you on this. Let me ask you a question: what is a “bullying atheist”? How is one identified? Are there specific behaviors? Describe one for me.

When it comes to “bullying”, I think it’s clear that religious adherents are far more engaged in it. On the flip-side, I don’t see self-defense as bullying, and I think there is such an imbalance at present, that any behavior from atheists that remotely appears aggressive is self-defense, not bullying.

Don’t you find it odd that, as Sam Harris points out, “no one ever needs to identify himself as a non-astrologer or a non-alchemist”? The term atheist is actually the product of religious bigotry that originated as an epithet. So, in my view, it is the religious who have engaged in any real “bullying”, and history bears this out. Self defense is not bullying.

I found it interesting that you seem to find Hitchens less offensive when it seems to me he goes out of his way to be more abrasive. He does not call himself an atheist, but rather an ANTI-THEIST, a title I have adopted for myself, as well, as I previously indicated I think belief in gods is a destructive force in society and that history supports this position solidly. The title of his book, How Religion Poisons Everything, seems more directly to attack religion than the title of Dawkins’ book, The God Delusion, but I guess that’s all open to interpretation. When I watch to two in interviews, though, Dawkins seems less abrasive to me in his approach than does Hitchens.
Does anyone see a correlation between the 4 Horsemen (Dawkins, Harris, Dennet, and Hitchens) and the Beatles?
I'd say Dawkins is clearly Paul - kinda cute, talented, smart. Meanwhile Hitchens, the loud-mouth free spirit rabble rouser would have to be John. Harris clearly, by his soft-spoken, spiritual-apologist, dark-horse manner would have to be George. I guess that leaves Dan Dennet for Ringo - sorry Dan!
Anyway, I enjoyed your post Jason - I am a big fan of Harris' proposal that we have new conversational rules that allow us to speak about the taboo topics of what so many people believe and demand evidence and point out bad ideas in those conversations. Good topic and good writing - William (kidgloves)
I enjoyed the post. Moderates like you are important in the world. But just as the Civil Rights Movement needed the Black Panthers along with the freedom riders and more pacifist elements of the movement, the fight for atheist acceptance requires militants as well. Thanks for the mention!
Hi Rick,

With "bullying atheist" as my headline, I was of course going for shock value to draw in readers! Or something like that. Really, I think the best term is probably "militant atheists", even though I fully agree that this is a grossly unfair description when you consider where the burden of proof ought to lie.

I guess I am referring to those activist atheists like those I listed, who are positively engaged in trying to combat religiosity, along with those who find religious belief so intolerable that they can't keep their disdain to themselves in a social setting.

I don't have anything against these people; man, I have been there. But honestly, these days if I encounter someone who believes in God, and who is also apparently kind, decent, respectful, courteous, considerate, and essentially an all-round good person who happens to believe one ridiculous thing, I am not going to heap scorn on him or her.

Turning to your comment about Hitchens vs Dawkins et al. Maybe I haven't been exposed to enough of their material, but my impression so far is that Dawkins has gotten so frustrated that he can scarcely contain his contempt for any religious person he is talking to, regardless of whether that religious person is an okay human being or not. I have gotten the feeling that Hitchens is more receptive to people as people, and contemptuous of the beliefs but not all those who hold them. But I really could be wrong; I've only seen a selection of video material from either of them, and it's the video that has given me that take on Dawkins especially. I would be happy to be corrected on that score and I note that William's "beatles" analogy seems to suggest I am wrong as well.
I am an atheist (but not a bully). I think Dawkins & co. (he's turned himself and his thought into quite an enterprise is perfectly at home with the precepts of Christianity; but he does indeed have contempt for those who think this precepts were derived from some Ultimate Source.
Rick Lucke wrote: “Don’t you find it odd that, as Sam Harris points out, “no one ever needs to identify himself as a non-astrologer or a non-alchemist”? The term atheist is actually the product of religious bigotry that originated as an epithet. So, in my view, it is the religious who have engaged in any real “bullying”, and history bears this out. Self defense is not bullying.”

I am agreeing with lots of what Rick writes, but is wrong on this point.

The word “atheist” actually predates the word “theist”—and in the English language, the word “theist” is derived from “atheist” rather than the other way around. The word “atheist” etymologically derives from the Greek “a” [without] + “theos” [gods]…and means without gods—not, as some atheists would assert, without a belief in gods.

That happens to be a significant difference.

Once again, however, I agree with Rick about who the real bullies are—and that self-defense is not bullying.
Frank,

I know we are in agreement on much. I just want to point out that I did not actually state when the word atheist originated, but rather what inspired it, which was as I said, religious bigotry:

****** “In western Classical Antiquity, theism was the fundamental belief that supported the divine right of the State (Polis, later the Roman Empire). Historically, any person who did not believe in any deity supported by the State was fair game to accusations of atheism, a capital crime.”

****** “For political reasons, Socrates in Athens (399 BCE) was accused of being 'atheos' ("refusing to acknowledge the gods recognized by the state").”

****** “Christians in Rome were also considered subversive to the state religion and prosecuted as atheists.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_atheism

My main point was just that it is actually theists who have historically done the “bullying”. I do, however, appreciate your contribution to what I said.
;-)
Hey thanks for setting my numbers straight!!!!
Frank, you have just made a, for me at least, subtle distinction within the notion or idea of "being an atheist," just to put an ontological spin on it. And so, I'm thanking you now for giving me something more to think about, in addition to what I've already got stewing and simmering in my head.