And, yes, Olbermann too.
In an extraordinary interview on Friday night, Bill Moyers taught us all a lesson on how to have a dialogue with those whose political views contrast sharply with our own. Extraordinary not necessarily in terms of subject matter or memorability, but rather, in terms of tone and civility.
His guest was Richard Brookhiser, who, in 1969, at the age of 15, wrote an essay critical of the protests at his high school against Richard Nixon and the Vietnam war. He sent that essay to William F. Buckley, editor of The National Review, and it ended up on the cover of that magazine.
At one time, Brookhiser was Buckley's hand-picked successor to lead the magazine, a decision which Buckley later rescinded because he felt that Brookhiser lacked "executive flair". (And, watching the Brookhiser segment, I'd have to agree. He is very low-key, and has nowhere near the charisma that Buckley had.)
Brookhiser is an accomplished journalist and historian, prolific author, and winner of the 2008 National Humanities Medal. I would never expect to see the likes of him guesting on Glenn Beck or Sean Hannity. He's too smart and he's not interested in shouting matches.
These two men, at opposite ends of the political spectrum, managed to have a civil, even congenial conversation for nearly half an hour, on subjects ranging from Buckley and The National Review, to the role of government and the conservative movement in general, to medical marijuana, to 9/11, to the legacy of George W. Bush, to Sarah Palin.
You can read the transcript, or watch the video, HERE.
For anyone who regularly watches/listens to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck and Keith Olbermann, the conversation might have seemed incredibly boring, which is a shame, as we need this kind of dialogue more than ever right now.
I found myself disagreeing several times with Brookhiser during the course of the interview, and I'm sure Moyers did as well. But voices were never raised, no one was looking for a "gotcha" moment, and there was clearly an atmosphere of respect at the table.
Thanks, Bill Moyers, for showing us how it should be done.


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Thanks for the link. Will get back to it later.
Thanks. R
I like PBS, I hate Bill Moyers and his partisan politics. He was, is, and always will be a democratic operative. His show would be better placed on a for-profit cable news network, but to force me to financially support his program with tax dollars is absurd.
"Referring to a July 13, 2007, edition of Bill Moyers Journal, discussing the possible impeachment of then President George W. Bush, and featuring guests from opposing ends of the political spectrum, both in favor of impeachment, PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler praised Moyers for his initiative in highlighting different topics, but felt he could have used a more balanced approach. Moyers disagreed, saying:
"The journalist's job is not to achieve some mythical state of equilibrium between two opposing opinions out of some misshapen respect — sometimes, alas, reverence — for the prevailing consensus among the powers-that-be. The journalist's job is to seek out and offer the public the best thinking on an issue, event, or story."
Getler responded by saying that
"On the broad issue of balance, I don't disagree with Moyers .... It can create a false sense of equivalence among readers or viewers in cases where that is not justified.... [but that] while conventional, equal-time balance is frequently a false measure, the absence of any balance can undermine any program."
So praise him all you want, but spare me the lesson. He's a partisan hack. Period!
I appreciate intelligent conservatives, much as I disagree with them. I appreciate them even more when they're courteous as well rather than being bullies. Same goes for liberals, of course!
Poorsinner, what have I done to gain such devotion? It is beyond flattering.
However, I fully realize that Bill Moyers is a liberal, a "partisan", and has a definite point of view. I never said otherwise. (But partisan hack? Sorry, does not apply.)
I wrote this blog as an illustration of how dialogue can and should be conducted. If there are conservative "hacks" out there doing the same, I would be intersted in knowing about it.
As for your tax dollars, I do feel your pain. I have been supporting two unjust and unnecessary wars for a number of years now, and I am certainly not happy about it.
I don't have exact figures, but I don't think I am going out on a limb by saying that the amount of tax dollars that you, personally, pay to support PBS is very, very small. And the amount of tax dollars that you pay to support Bill Moyers' Journal is even smaller than that. Really, if you look at the PBS listings, the number of programs that are even remotely "political" in nature is staggeringly small. (And a lot of Moyers' discussions aren't political at all. He often has historians, authors and poets as guests.)
Perhaps we can figure out your share, you can PM me your address, and I will reimburse you.
Of course my friend - rated!
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Hope this bumps this into the feed.