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AUGUST 29, 2012 11:24AM

Voter Fraud vs. Election Fraud

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In which I present two true stories and ask which one is the real problem? 

Voter Fraud

Along with an increasing number of states, Tennessee has recently passed a law requiring state-issued photo identification in order to vote. The rationale behind this new law is that it will prevent voter fraud. In other words, no one else can impersonate me - or any other citizen -  in order to cast a vote.

If you watch HBO's The Newsroom, the newest creation of Aaron Sorkin, you might recall that the latest episode prominently featured the story of Dorothy Cooper. The characters on The Newsroom are fictional, but Dorothy Cooper is a real person. She is a 96-year-old African-American woman from Chattanooga who, although she has voted in every election, with only one exception, since she was in her early 20s, was denied a state-issued photo ID because the name on her birth certificate did not match her married name, and she was unable to supply a copy of her marriage certificate. Mrs. Cooper is not alone. According to the Brennan Center For Justice (lots of great information at this link):

Many of those who possess ready documentation of their citizenship do not have documentation that reflects their current name. For example, survey results show that only 48% of voting-age women with ready access to their U.S. birth certificates have a birth certificate with current legal name – and only 66% of voting-age women with ready access to any proof of citizenship have a document with current legal name. Using 2000 census citizen voting-age population data, this means that as many as 32 million voting-age women may have available only proof of citizenship documents that do not reflect their current name.

It should also be noted that, as a resident of a public housing complex in Chattanoga, Mrs. Cooper has a photo ID issued by the Chattanooga Police Department. However, that photo ID is not acceptable for voting purposes.

In a comment on another blog, I have noted the fact that, for the last 23 years, I have been able to vote in Tennessee using my Voter Registration Card, which does not have my photograph on it. When I arrive at the polling place, I show this card to the poll worker who finds my name and address in the poll book. Then he or she writes the ballot number below my name, I sign the poll book, and I take the paper receipt to the voting booth attendant, who loads my ballot into the machine. This is done to ensure that there is a record that Jeanette DeMain has voted in a particular election. If someone else were to show up at my polling place claiming to be me, an investigation would be triggered. Conversely, if I went to my polling place and it was found that someone claiming to be me had already signed the poll book and voted, I could claim voter fraud.

But amazingly enough (well, not really), neither of these things has ever happened. In fact, the number of cases of voter fraud in the state of Tennessee since has 2000 is an astounding fourteen. Paraphrasing The Newsroom's Will McAvoy, "That's not fourteen-thousand.That's not fourteen-hundred. That's...fourteen." In twelve years. And that includes all categories, not just voter impersonation fraud, which is ostensibly what these voter ID laws are designed to prevent. Actually, not one of the cases in Tennessee involves voter impersonation fraud.

In fact, between 2000 and 2010, there were only thirteen credible cases of voter impersonation fraud in the entire country. I can state with certainty that more people have been injured by exploding toilets in a ten-year period than have committed voter impersonation fraud.

I have said this before and I'll say it again:  Every bill that is signed into law in this state (and I would venture to say that other states use a variation of this language) ends with the statement, "This act shall take effect upon becoming a law, the public welfare requiring it."  What aspect of public welfare has been harmed in the absence of this law, and what aspect of public welfare is being served in the implementation of it?

Election Fraud

On August 2, 2012, my co-worker, Min, arrived in the office and said that she had had a strange experience at her polling place that morning. It was primary day in Tennessee for state and national legislative races, but Davidson County also had a general election for several school board races. Min said that she had not been asked at the registration desk in which  primary she wanted to vote, and when she was taken to the voting booth, she was given the Republican ballot. She stated that she did not wish to vote in the Republican primary and had to go back and register again. This time, she was given the correct ballot.

New technology was in use that day. The Davidson County Election Commission had recently spent $777,000 on the purchase of new electronic poll books to replace bulky paper poll books in 60 of the city's 160 voting precincts. Commissioner Albert Tieche said that the new books would "greatly reduce the opportunities for errors" and speed up the voting process. It looks like he may have been prematurely optimistic.

Both Min and I initially thought that her experience was an isolated incident. But it turns out that an as yet undetermined number of other voters experienced the same thing, as it appears that the electronic poll books defaulted to the Republican ballot if no choice was offered or made.

As a result, the State Election Commission is going to have to audit all of the Republican votes cast in the 60 precincts using the electronic poll books, and cross-check those ballots with each individual voter's history, an expensive and time-consuming proposition.

It may not seem like a big deal. What's the harm, right? But as Mary Mancini, Executive Director for Tennessee Citizen Action, says:

No piece of any equipment that’s part of any election should ever default to one party or another, EVER. The fact that the electronic poll books default to the majority party is an egregious oversight by the Davidson County Election Commission.
In a primary election, this problem where the electronic poll books default to the Republican ballot could have serious repercussions for both parties and who is on the ballot in the general election in November. Consider the close race of TN Senate District 18 where Haile lost to Coker by only 57 votes. How many of those votes were Dems who were given the incorrect ballot?

As a Democrat, I am obviously bothered by the fact that Democratic voters were given the wrong ballot, but as Ms. Mancini's second statement indicates, Republicans should be equally as concerned. And as the Documented Problems section of the Wikipedia entry on Electronic Voting details, the massive and widespread inaccuracies caused by electronic voting systems dwarf the number of cases of documented voter fraud by magnitudes.


Given the information presented above, I ask you:  Which of these two scenarios bothers you more?  The prospect of someone casting a fraudulent ballot without a photo ID, which has apparently happened 13 times in the most recent ten-year period, or the prospect of poorly trained poll workers and questionable electronic voting technology giving you, and who knows how many others, the wrong ballot, or otherwise altering your vote and voting history?

Regardless of your party affiliation, I would hope you agree that we need to concentrate our efforts on making sure that the latter scenario is not repeated. However, it's odd that all we seem to be doing is making it more difficult for citizens to vote, rather than ensuring that everyone's vote is recorded and counted accurately.

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Poll worker training is critical to any election... but at least we're out on the other side of dead people voting in Chicago and the Rio Grande valley... at least I hope so.
I can't keep up with the myriad deceits and fraud.
I was in Canada when Bush/Gore was the 'news"

Remember the debate about No Paper Trail?
The Digits were not Trustworthy? Some said.

For Example.

My town has a Pop of 350- people. Analogy?
I heard a small town with 350- vote. Results?

The Non Paper Trail records - 3,500 for Bush?
Canada was (BBC) reporting these irregularities.
I don't stay tuned. I experienced the baker frauds.

Justice?
No do laundry in Watnesboro, PA.? CEO arrest?
They CEO had nice cops arrested me in a bank.
I have NO Faith in these politico Wastrel Days.
News of the exploding toilets certainly makes me thankful for the wall hanging urinals men get to use.
wisconsin with the "misplaced" ballots found by a political official rewarded for voter irregularities- Fine. Urban legend of dead people voting in Chicago? "wrong people voting in pennsylvania? white Republicans thinning out year by year? cordon off a tent in Nevada, set up white noise machines, open the VIP entrance and give your servants their marching orders.
It seems to me the only party having fraud problems are the Republicans. I believe this voter suppression issue is going under the radar of most Democrats (either that or they don't care, which I refuse to believe.) It is such a blatant manipulation of the voter population, it is unreal.

Lezlie
with Arthur, "I can't keep up with the myriad deceits and fraud.'
and that is just my damn friends and family!

to make a political system work needs honest men and women.
give em lie detectors, these poll people.
also elaborate personality studies!
based on the dsm.

i dunno..give em all 50 bucks walking around cash
if they can pull it off without deceit..

thank god jimmy carter is still alive and can oversee
this banana republic election.
Voter suppression activities are becoming more and more obvious nationwide. Same crap going on here in Florida. Always in the Red states.

r
Brilliant piece, Jeanette. What we need are stories of real people to counter the generic claims of nonexistent "voter fraud." You nailed it.
Excellent piece. It lays out the problem very clearly and without histrionics. I have a hard time writing about this without going into "Ahhh...they're going to steal the election!" mode. I think a discussion like yours is really what's needed.
Another excellent post! Well done, DeMain!
Excellent point, Jeanette, about evreyone ignoring the massive & widespread inaccuracies that have been demonstrated with the use of electronic voting machines. Computer-savvy people say the count is easy for a hacker to rig, as well. That is, they can be programmed to produce a predetermined outcome. [r]
Excellent. The issue with the electronic voting errors (?) are so much more serious than the issue of government approved photo i.d. to combat nonexistent voting fraud. So if the Republicans are so concerned, why do they completely ignore the real problem? Hmmm
r./
Smart distinction Jeanette. Everybody knows that the real motive is to suppress low income and minority votes, though I suppose the Republicans treat this as a fortuitous byproduct of a measure that's worthy on its own merits.
Absolutely excellent question, Jeannette. And I have to admit to complete ignorance when all this voter ID talk first started. I'm a Democrat but I still thought it was a just a good idea. Until I started getting all the facts, such as those you so eloquently point out here. But who knew about election fraud issues? I daresay they're rarely made public. So, thank you for enlightening me, and, perhaps, quite a few others.
Very solid stuff. My understanding is that there is a concerted national Republican initiative to thwart voting in heavily Democratic areas. It's quite clear that the demographics are so apparent that this is, very likely, the edge that they need to stop Obama's second term. They even are countering the attempt for early voting by people who are medically challenged or want to use the absentee ballot. This is not the casual kind of bureaucratic snafu, eg. the Bush-Gore fiasco in 2000. This is a program. Not a modest one -- but a crusade by desperate people: Do take heed...
Let us hope and work for what must be.
Thank you for sharing.R>>>>>
I worry about whether or not my vote is being counted. I'm with you on this one. Rated.
good post.....although i have no problem with the i.d.....hell,the local bar asks for a photo id to get in.....
R
As others have said, this is an excellent piece, Jeanette. ~r
Whoa, the thing about women who change their name after marriage. I never thought of that. Republicans seem unafraid of appearing folksy and even a little dummo when up on the stump, yet there are some scary smart people behind their curtain. This was an excellent explanation of something I wasn't well informed about. Thank you.
Very well done. And so scary!
[r] so well presented! also have been reading about partisan Secretaries of State like in Ohio in 2004 and Florida in 2000 who were so corrupt they were willing to skew the entire election for their Republican party. best, libby
Very good information worth hearing about. It looks as if the Repubs will do anything to avoid facing reality.

-R-
Thank you for all of the comments. I really do appreciate it.

I will only add that the defaulting of the electronic poll books to the Republican primary ballot was most likely not intentional, but it could still result in fraudulent (i.e. inaccurate and untrue) election results. However, there are many cases of election fraud that do appear to be intentional. And I do believe that voter ID laws have the intent of suppressing the votes of many people who generally vote Democratic.

P.S. I am very grateful that this post received an EP without me having to put "exploding toilets" anywhere in the title. ;-)
Isn't technology wonderful?
Lets you be ripped, exploited, and here told what you are supposed to mean. This is the land of the free, with the right to choose the latest, untested and utter useless....
Excellent distinction between the two--and apt examples. In response to your question, both scenarios are disturbing.

Too bad, also, that most of the people about to be disenfranchised are not aware of what is transpiring.
It's all so sickening and backwards, I'm almost hesitant to discuss it anymore. It's like "Should we burn the witch or not?" I mean, what the hell are we talking about this for? Why isn't someone slamming these idiots down legally, on a national scale? This is preposterous.

Poll tax, poll tax, poll tax...plain and simple and clear as day.
An important issue. Thank you for writing about it. Just wanted to mention that there should be poll watchers on duty at each polling place, one representing each party, to help handle any problems that arise. Often -- especially during major elections -- voter rights organizations have volunteer attorneys on call to help sort out problems. A lot of people don't know to ask for them, but there is help available when voting rights need to be enforced and when problems arise at the polls.
"it's odd that all we seem to be doing is making it more difficult for citizens to vote, rather than ensuring that everyone's vote is recorded and counted accurately."

It's only odd when looked at from the perspective of a citizen who is concerned about the ongoing weakening of democracy in our nation. From the perspective of the oligarchs and powerbrokers with a vested interest in undermining what remains of our representative democracy, it makes perfect sense.
I know for a fact there is voter fraud in Massachusetts. I am not on the voter list in Boston even though I moved a decade ago but, my wife a registered Democrat somehow made the cut. I have a friend who can vote in West Roxbury,Watertown and Braintree, MA . Vote early and often did not come out of thin air.
Nobody would want to put there child on a plane with strange men without ID's, is it so unreasonable that we prove we exist before voting the future of our country?
The other deceit is voting for people you know will not show up. If we ID 30 somethings voting for 90 somethings we would stop much fraud. These things happen every election. I used to think it funny when I was young and indifferent but, there is much at stake. The reason why it happens is -because there is much at stake and under this present 3rd world system, results are all but assured in many areas.
Thanks again to everyone who read and added to the discussion.

Jay, being the only "naysayer", I'll address some of your points:

"I know for a fact there is voter fraud in Massachusetts. I am not on the voter list in Boston even though I moved a decade ago but, my wife a registered Democrat somehow made the cut."

You need to take this up with your local elections commission. What you are describing is not voter fraud. I use the term voter fraud to describe fraudulent actions by individuals, such as casting a ballot under someone else's name. I know for a fact that voter registration rolls are a mess. The registration process is sometimes antiquated, and people are often registered in the wrong place, especially if they have moved a lot.

"I have a friend who can vote in West Roxbury,Watertown and Braintree, MA . Vote early and often did not come out of thin air."

Well, I would hope that if you have personal knowledge of such things, you would report it. As it is, the link I provided above does not bear out that this is happening a lot.

"Nobody would want to put there child on a plane with strange men without ID's, is it so unreasonable that we prove we exist before voting the future of our country?"

I have never suggested that a person should be able to vote without some form of identification. As I said above, I have voted for years with my voter registration card. Also, why wouldn't Dorothy Cooper's photo ID from the Chattanooga Police Department be acceptable? The issue is with requiring a specific type of identification, one that is difficult for many people to obtain. (Go to the link I provided to the Brennan Center For Justice.)

"The other deceit is voting for people you know will not show up. If we ID 30 somethings voting for 90 somethings we would stop much fraud."

Again, show me where this is happening. Give me some links, some statistics. Are you suggesting that there is an organized ring of people who know who the elderly are on the voter registration rolls, and they all go and vote for those people? Sorry, but I'm not believing this.

You have to have something with your name on it when you vote. That's how they match you up in the poll book. Your story sounds a little hinky.