Jess D. Facts

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OCTOBER 29, 2009 10:54AM

A little depression goes a long way

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So, here’s my confession for the day.  I have been diagnosed with major depression.  It’s something that I have been battling for my entire life it seems and I’ve been trying to do something about it for the longest time.  I’ve been on any number of combinations of antidepressants and different concoctions of various drugs to alleviate me of my symptoms.  Nothing seems to really work for me for any length of time so my doctor scraps one drug and moves on to the next.  It seems that the meds will get into my system long enough to help for a short period of time and then my body will reject whatever is in there.  I’ve been going through depression for so long that it doesn’t really bother me as much as it should.  I’ve accepted it as a way of life.

 Going through life with depression doesn’t just affect me though; it runs its bully way through my whole family.  When I’m going through a depressive episode I tend to segregate myself from the entire family.  They don’t even really notice it so much any more and have accepted it for what it is: something that I just have to go through and wait for the new meds to kick in.  How unfair is that to them, though?  It would be better for everyone if my husband could just accept the fact that what I’m going through is real and not some selfish thing that I’m trying to do to get attention brought onto myself.  He doesn’t understand.

 For years I’ve tried telling him that depression is real.  I’ve used the analogy that everyone does, “If I were a diabetic you would want me to use insulin, right?”  That kind of thing.  But, my dear husband things that if I could just pull myself up by the boot straps and pull my head out of my ass, life would be better for everyone.  I even went so far as to buy into that for a while.  I stopped my meds convincing myself that I was just using them like Dumbo’s magic feather.  I tried pulling head out of my rear and tried living my life free and clear like he wanted me to.  I did that for several years.  It didn’t work.  It was a nightmare for both of us with bad moods and crying jags on my part and major frustration on his.  He saw this as a character flaw in me.  I know that it’s not.  This is how I’ve been built and I’m doing something about it again.

 Recently I’ve started therapy.  I was fortunate enough to try out a couple of different people to see who I would be the most comfortable talking to.  Luckily, through my work we have the Employee Assistance Program and so I could do my therapist shopping for free. I chose to go to one woman because the name of her practice had something to do with spirituality, which sounded so cool and Zen to me.  When I actually talked to her I found that she was so quiet that it was hard to talk to her since I’m the same way.  When I talk to someone that I’m paying I certainly don’t want them to be anything like me.  The second lady I talked to was so much better.  She was like an older version of a cheerleader.  She gave me assignments to complete before our next session.  When I told her about how my husband wasn’t championing my cause, she was appalled.  Immediately she said she wanted to talk to him so she could teach him that depression was really a real condition and possibly give him some tips that could help both of us through my episodes. 

 When she said that, I thought, “Oh, great.  How am I going to convince this man to go to therapy for me?”  I figured I would have to be really sweet and convincing, maybe even conniving.  What I told him was that his presence was requested at my therapist’s office so she could get a better understanding of who I was as a person so she could better help treat me.  I didn’t tell him that he was about to be schooled in the art of depression as a real medical condition.  I told him that he would learn ways to cope with me.  Amazingly, he accepted the appointment and is on his way there right now.  He thinks that he’s going to tell the woman that I’ve got father issues and I need a friend.

 I’m just afraid that he’s going to find himself in for a rude awakening.  I never lie to my husband.  I feel like I just did.  I told him one thing but really he’s going to therapy to get a lecture.  Even though I’ve only had one session with this woman, I feel that I trust her enough to be kind and gentle without causing a major marital riff between my husband and me.  But, then again, she is a marriage consoler too, so maybe she’s just trying to get extra business out of us?  No, I think she’s really trying to help me get through life as smoothly as possible.  I don’t think this will hurt my marriage but enhance it to the point that maybe my husband finally understands me as a person and accepts my quirks for what they are as opposed to flaws.

 Depression is real.  If you’ve never been depressed, I would never wish it on you.  I would never wish depression on my worst enemy.  If there is someone in your life that suffers from depression, and trust me, they do suffer, so educate yourself in what they’re going through.  It’s hard on someone to go through it alone.  It’s lonely.  It’s miserable.  Even if the person is trying so hard to do something about it, do something about it with them.  That act of kindness will go a long way.  That’s how I choose to view my husband’s appointment today, an act of kindness towards me. 

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I also have major depression (15 years and counting) and I appreciate your courage in telling this. Thank you! Much love to you.

I hope that your husband can truly hear what your therapist is saying. It makes a big difference when your partner can see it from your perspective, just a bit.

And BRAVO for finding a good therapist. That can make all the difference in the world. I finally found one and things are looking so much brighter. Homework can help so much.

I also did a 12-week class in managing depression and we used a book called Mind Over Mood (it is on Amazon - i checked) and it changed my life! I mean that.

I've been reading your blog since I joined OS and I look forward to hearing how it goes.

*hugs*
S
Thank you so much Steph, I'm going to see if I can check out that book. I'm all about self help books so thanks for recommending it.
good for you seeking help... again. knowing nothing my own self I am still of the opinion that the merry go round of drugs is not the way to go. you said yourself, they don't help. you and millions of others are basically human guinea pigs being experimented upon by the AMA and big pharma. "OK, didn't work? Well, let's try THIS one". therapy sure couldn't hurt though, although I would tend to think the spiritual based therapy over cheerleader therapy. but hey, do what feels good and get better!
I don't feel like a human guinea pig. I feel like I need to get better and I'm willing to do whatever it takes. I'm tired of not being able to live my life like how I want to. I will keep taking the meds even if they kill me early. If I can get some relief and be a good mother and wife then it was worth it.
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I know this. I so know this.

You are brave and strong. You aren't a guinea pig. You are a brave woman who wants to feel better, who wants a good life, who wants to not feel lonely and miserable.

You know what you need to do. I trust you.
I'm sorry you are not getting support from your spouse. I feel a lot of guilt about the times I am withdrawn (mostly through sleeping), but my partner understands, is very supportive, and has actually had success in bringing me back into the light.

I'm glad you are not giving up on meds. It's not an exact science, and, as you know, takes some tweeking. I'm also glad you are in therapy.

Also, exercise and good nutrition can help a lot - but I know it's hard to do anything when the black dog is after you.

Please keep us posted on how well (or not) you are doing. I've just started journaling on Open Diary & it's really helping me to notice patterns (I also suffer from chronic pain from a car accident.)

Also, thanks for having the courage to publically post about this disorder. I wouldn't wish on anyone either.
Also, regular socialization is very important. Even if it's something innocuous like looking at shoes. When I had swine flu, the isolation and lack of physical activity sent me in to the abyss. Also, structure is really important for me. If I don't have concrete plans, I'll take to my bed. Even sometimes with plans, I'll still fall through all the safety nets, but plans help. Planning fun things with other helps you to show up! I love participating in charity fundraising walks. Exercise and socialization together. Best to you!
Thanks DDDylan. I need all the advice right now. Especially with socialization because that is seriously where I lack in skill right now.
Dylan, thank you for the suggestions. Socialization is really where I lack in skill right now. I'm sort of a social moron.
I think that not only will your husband's appointment help you and your marriage, but it will probably help him. I think a lot of people deny depression because they fear emotions will make them weak. And they confuse major depression with 'emotions'--not at all the same thing.
The best thing you can do for yourself and your family is to continue this route of taking care of yourself. I'm proud of you and really proud that you are sharing this.
Thanks Steph. You're so right about the emotions. He thinks that I'm an emotional ball of puss sometimes. Really, deep down, I'm strong and witty and good. I have trouble letting that side out of me in the real world quite often.
Oooops. sorry about the guinea pig comment.

"Nothing seems to really work for me for any length of time so my doctor scraps one drug and moves on to the next. It seems that the meds will get into my system long enough to help for a short period of time and then my body will reject whatever is in there."

I based my comment on this passage, and from hearing similar opinions from people I know and have known...
congrats on yet another EP btw!
Depression is very real. I like to think of drugs, therapy, etc., as the tools in the toolbox for working on depression. No single tool will do the whole job. I did do therapy with a terrific therapist for a while (and I've seen some so-so therapists). The best book I've ever read was "Feeling Good" by David Burns. Very logical, practical stuff. Seems to me that having a husband with at least a minimal comprehension of what depression is would be a very powerful tool. Good luck filling your toolbox and never give up.
Overworked. I like your toolbox analogy.
Trig its okay about the comment. It is a hit and miss process. We're cool.
Jess, I wish I could wave Dumbo's magic feather and make the depression be gone. My mom suffers from major depression and my father, though he loves her, has the same bootstrap mentality as your husband. For dad, I think it's a defense mechanism/denial; his mother was severely depressed, also I think undiagnosed bipolar, and had many other problems as well and I think deep down it terrifies him that someone could actually not be in control of what happens to them, that they aren't choosing to be horrible as his mom was to him but that in fact her depression and bipolar were to blame - where would we be if none of us could control our behavior? I sort of see his point, that is pretty scary to contemplate, so this 'bootstrapping' mentality gives him a sense of control.

I think you're right to see your husband in terms of what he is willing to do, and not by his ignorance of depression. Ignorance is fixable, just as depression is treatable. If you can both remember to be kind to one another as you each learn more about the other, I think you'll be fine.

love and blessings to you, sweet quiet Jess :-)
Very good read. Every word of it. Very open and up front and smart.

The "just be positive" stuff can be so deadly, actually creating more harm for the sufferer. So many people think its a light switch you're just too lazy to hit. Then sometimes you buy into it - so not only do you feel crappy you feel GUILTY for feeling crappy. Then the cycle really gets sick.

I'm sure the counselor will be fine. She's trained to approach him in a way that's non-lecturing and open.
Therapy is great but don't be absolutely opposed to drugs. Yes, they're over-hyped and overrated but if you can find an MD you trust, you might at least look at a temporary solution to stabilize or bring up your serotonan. At that point, you might feel better about tackling your issues with non-pharmaceutical methods like therapy or visualization or more exercise but I wouldn't rule anything out for the short-term.
Sandra and Beth thank you both so much.
He's back and seems more willing to understand. Baby steps.
I know this depression you struggle with. I live with it every day. I've heard the same things - it's a character issue, just pull yourself together, just get over it, what do you have to be depressed about? - and sometimes I let myself fall into the trap of self-loathing for my "weakness" and it only depresses me more.
You're doing the right thing by trying to help your husband see what you're going through. And therapy is the right thing for you as well. The medications alone can only do so much. Keep chipping away. Keep taking those small steps.
Just keep moving forward.
I am glad you found someone you like and you have my condolences for not having a supportive husband. I hope that it works out. I suffer from anxiety attacks and I get my fair share of flimsy support. Drugs for anxiety and depression are hard to figure out. I tried different drugs for years before finding something that worked. For me it ended up being that the dosing was as important as the drug. Most often you're told higher is better, for me the opposite was true. And I can't take generic - doesn't work at all.

Even if your husband comes back and decides that the doctor is wrong, remember that you are doing this for your well being, not his. If he has issues, their his, not yours.
Depression is a bitch and without a supportive partner, or worse one who doesn't get it, it's bad. I hope you get the right meds and the right therapy and that your husband comes around.
Thanks, Overworkedtiredandnumb. After work, I'm going to the library to check-out David Burns' The Feeling Good Handbook.
Another thing that has helped me recently is taking private tai chi lessons. From this, I received many great things, including excitement about learning something new, a pleasant challenge, exercise, structure (Wed. @ 5:15), novelty of practicing something, a new world of study (I've read so many books on tai chi + the Tao.) Trying something new could lead to a new passion and a positive way to spend your time. Also, I'm in awe of my instructor. He inspires me & is a good role model. I always look forward to seeing him and learning from him.

Also, regarding socializing, it's just important to get out of the house on a regular basis. Even just going to Target to look at Halloween decorations, trying a new coffee shop, going to the used book store, etc. Outings can range from small to large. You can go alone and be part of a crowd or with family & friends. Be creative. I bet there are a lot of free or cheap new places to explore in your town.

Also, one therapist I saw told me to just put my feet on the floor for a few minutes, when I'm stuck in the fog. Then go back to bed. Next time, feet on the floor and move to another room. Sit under light in your pajamas. Try to have a cup of tea or soda. Then see if you still feel like going back to bed. Anymore, I make myself perform stretches or my tai chi forms - it that doesn't work for me - I get to go back to bed. Tai chi is like finding a hidden source of energy and pain relief. These techniques don't always work, but since I started making myself perform on set of forms before giving myself the option to give up - I had more sucessful days.

Be pro-active on your good days; it will help when the fog returns.
It's so important that you have a strong support system to rely on. Depression is real and should not be ignored. I'm glad you found a therapist that you like. I think that sharing with another person will really help. Hugs!
Jess, I can't tell you how much I feel for you right now. I suffered a terrible depression with anxiety attacks about 15 years ago when I was 25. It was the worst few years of my life. My husband, who was my fiance at the time, was clueless about how to deal with me. He seemed to take it personally (my depression did come on after we got engaged) and turned cold toward me many times. It seemed like he had no tolerance for what I was going through and did not understand the intensity and severity of my illness. Men are like children--most of them need to be taken care of and are not the best at being the nurturers. It's a great thing that you got yours to go to the therapist--you should commend yourself, not feel guilty.

With medication and lots of therapy you can get better. I was on Prozac all those years ago but then I stopped and seemed to get better from therapy alone. I continually dread the horrid disease coming back into my life. Your brain is wired in a certain way and people who are not wired like that will never truly understand the depths of depression, no matter how much you try to explain it to them. A friend of mine who also has suffered for years with depression recently started taking Pristiq and Abilify and he said this combination of drugs have helped him more than anything ever has. Maybe ask your therapist about them.

Also, William Styron's book Darkness Visible was a savior for me because his words proved to me that I wasn't crazy. And I agree that you have to force yourself to get out. I'm not so social to begin with but when I was depressed it was unbearable to be in public, and I lived in NYC at the time! But I felt like I was on the border of agoraphobia and getting out into the world will help prevent that.

"This too shall pass"--I know you've heard that but you have to have faith that it will. You will get better and just know that there are so many of us that are thinking of you and have gone through the terrible hell that you are going through. Also, keep writing--that helps more than you realize.
Bless you, my dear, for talking about this. Hard to do, I know, when you're in the midst of it. I think many of the best people suffer from depression - it's a bitch, and it seems to strengthen the channels in your brain that lead back to it.

Couple things that have helped me, when I've been in the pit: A book called "The cognitive behavioral therapy workbook", meditation, and focusing on something outside myself. Often just going to work pulls me out of a mood - in nursing, I see people who are worse off than me, and I'm a help to them. Sounds codependent, sort of, but it's also true. Don't know if you work, but volunteering would be a good alternative, both to get you out of the house, and to get you out of yourself. And meditation is big - tapping into something bigger than "here". Get the book "Full Catastrophe Living" by Jon Kabat Zinn. Profound, life-changing. Good luck to you. Don't berate yourself for your moods, whatever you do. XOXO AHC
Jess,
I've been there. Horrendous.
Meditation (funny how close the word is to 'medication') works. It's simple and clinically proven. Do it and you will feel better. Maybe not great.....but better.
Also....there is shit going on in the world (a nation in decline, a planet in crisis) that arguably makes depression a sane response. But you need to take care of yourself.
This is a chronic condition....but manageable for most.
Meditation works. Exercise too.
Also there is a treatment known as cognitive behavioral therapy - which hasn't caught on because it's not touchy-feely - which has had demonstrable clinical success and should at least be presented as an option by a competent informed therapist.
The medication game is a dicey one. Anti-depressants have saved lives. But I have also seen people go from pill to pill to pill with crummy side effects and little relief.
Meditation works. Exercise. Healthy diet.
Feel better. You will.
Ohhh , Jess, I just want to hug you. Long story, but I know of what you speak. Please let us know how he reacted after meeting her. And, you know the "strong and witty and good" part from the comments? It shows. It really does.
Wow. Great post! Will you be posting about what happens after the hubby comes back from the appointment?
Fine post I wish you luck with your husband. I only recently fell ill to deppression. A terrible thing. I do so wish you the best.
Rated.
I have been diagnosed with Severe and Chronic Depression. That was years ago. I take meds, but cannot really tell you if they work, for later I have been diagnosed with a touch of Bi-polar. My doctor commented that the up side wasn't severe and didn't see the need for medicine for there might as well be some joy in my life. The down side has been accepted, except for those moments when the whole life thing turns dark and it is hard to see anything good about anything.
Therapy helped, but didn't cure, it took a while to get away from the ones who only gave me excuses to be depressed. They were the ones who are in the same room as your husband. Find a reason and then get over it people. Depression is just the way I am, like being right handed or with curly hair. The really hard part is accepting there isn't any part of depression that brings joy to being alive. But I would rather be alive then what ever it is that we call dead.
Yes, depression is very real. As a bipolar the depressive part is far worse than the hypomanic state. I too, isolate myself from people as I don't have the energy to deal with them, nor do I wish to drag them down. There is also a numb state I get, where I feel nothing, and can do nothing but look out the window. Then there are the black thoughts. An excellent post - and may your husband learn this is a chemical imbalance, not a 'sad' thing.
after a young lifetime of believing that misery was simply my normal state of being, i happened across a book, quite accidentally, that helped me understand that that shouldn't be the case:

Darkness Visible: A Memoir of Madness by William Styron.

there were no similarities between Mr. Styron and i in how we arrived at our depression, but his descriptions of his feelings, emotions, and pain were as if he were reading from my neurons.

in one passage, he likens being in the depths of depression to being trapped in a too-hot room. that isn't the totality of it, of course, but it can give someone who otherwise wouldn't understand a hint of the desperation we feel.

good luck. continue the therapy even if your husband doesn't see the worth. if he does, encourage him to go with you to you sessions once in awhile. it can be quite helpful, for you, as it provides the opportunity to learn things about yourself from him and his responses.
I feel for you Jess, but I have always been more like your husband, until recently. I thought I never have been depressed (unlike most of my sisters who are always on one SSRI drug or another) and thought it was a matter of self-discipline. Then I realized how much pot I was smoking. Yeah, I'm self-medicating. Since I've stopped that (more a matter of availability than of choice) I'm depressed all the time, and even worse, live alone, so there's no reason to pull myself out of it. My solution has to force myself into social situations and regularly confide in my friends. They've worked as therapists, so I'm ok so far.
If the SSRIs work (and hey, they're legal) then whatever works is good. Gathering up more people to be encouraging in your life is a good thing too. You have a lot of support here on OS. Good Luck!
Reading through your insightful comments I agree mostly with one: you are strong, witty and good. That is evident from your wonderful writing. You are also very brave to come forward. I, too, know what it's like to be inside the pit. Thank you for sharing your story. Best to you. R
Big hugs and I really hope your husband hears what the therapist tells him. It adds insult to injury that he doesn't understand depression. You do what you have to do for yourself. Hang in there.