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DECEMBER 16, 2010 5:24AM

Come out, I know you're there

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My dad called me the other day, which is something that doesn’t happen that often.  My dad and I love each other but there is a distance in our relationship that is there out of respect for each other.  Typically calls are made on birthdays, holidays and maybe three other times during the year as “just because” calls, something we feel a certain obligation to make.  The main points of conversation for my dad and me consist of the weather, the kids, and the latest technology.  I wouldn’t ever call our conversations deep.  The other day when he called, he started out the conversation by talking about books.  I told him what I was reading, recommended some books to him and then there was a lull in the conversation.

 “I have to ask you something,” he said.

 Uh-oh, I thought.  “Am I in trouble?” I quickly reverted back to my twelve-year-old self.

 “No, no…I just have a question,” he said obviously uncomfortable.  I could hear a door shut in the background like he was shutting himself off from the rest of the house.  “I don’t know how to ask you this.”

 “Just ask,” I said trying not to let my voice quaver since I still thought I was in trouble.  I just knew he was going to ask me about my sexual activity while I was still in high school.

 “Is your mother a lesbian?” he blurted.  That one took me by surprise.

 My parents have been divorced for twelve years.  I think I was more relieved than my dad when they split up because they were an unevenly matched pair.  Not uneven like opposites attract, but uneven like there was too big of a clash in personalities for my parents to be truly happy.  My dad has a boisterous, person-loving personality, where as my mom is most in her element when she is with her girl friends, and most specifically one that she’s been quite close to for several years.

 Growing up, I remember my parents telling me how they got together.  I must have been about eight when my sister, who was going through her first crush, asked for the family love story.  My parents met on a blind date that was set up by my mother’s cousin, but my dad had another date lined up for the evening just in case the one with my mother didn’t work out.  When my dad found out who she was, he was intrigued and canceled his other date.  My grandparents knew each other from several years prior to this first date and my dad wanted to see what had happened to my mother’s family.  Apparently, my grandfathers, both salesmen, viewed each other as their rivals.  When my paternal grandfather found out who my father had been out with the night after his date he said, “Huh, I’d like to see where this goes.”  My dad took that as approval from his father and asked my mom out again.

 Several months after the first date, my dad hinted to my mom that he bought her something really special for her birthday.  He invited her over to his parents’ house for supper where he presented her with a small velvet box.  When my mom opened the box, she tried to hide her disappointment because instead of the ring she had been expecting, the box held a pair of opal earrings.  My grandmother saw the disappointment and pulled my dad aside.  “She was expecting an engagement ring,” she told him.  My dad took that statement as a suggestion from his mom.  He thought she was expecting him to marry my mom.  The next day he went out and presented my mom with an engagement ring tied to a long stemmed rose. 

 At first, I thought my parents’ engagement story was sort of romantic because of the whole rose thing.  But then, my eight-year-old self got to thinking.  My dad didn’t want to marry my mom.  He only did it because his mom told him to.  That was like me going over to my least favorite friend’s house because my mom told me to, “Because it’s the nice thing to do,” according to my mom.  My dad did the biggest “nice thing to do”.

 During my recent phone conversation with my dad, he told me that he didn’t want to marry my mom.  I was okay with knowing that because it was something that I had figured out on my own a jillion years ago.  He told me that on his way to the church he had made an agreement with himself that he would give the marriage three years and if he still didn’t want to be in it, he would get out of it.  At the reception following the wedding, my maternal grandfather shook my dad’s hand and pulled him in close to whisper in his ear, “If you screw this up I will get involved.”  There went that three-year trial period.

 Just shy of the three-year mark, my sister was born and I followed just over a year later.  Because of this my dad felt a sense of obligation.  A few years later, my brother came along.  Though my dad loved each of us, he felt trapped.  He didn’t mind my mom’s personality; it was the fact that their sex life left much to be desired.  The conversation with my dad gave me more understanding as to how it was for them.  The gist of it was that their sex life consisted of creating three children and never went beyond that.  He told me that when he and his friends would engage in locker room talk, my dad would walk away too ashamed to admit that he was lacking in the bedroom department.

 To compensate for the lack of love in the bedroom, my dad buried himself in his work and social clubs around town to help promote his business.  He was well liked in the community and well respected.  A divorce at the height of his career would have been the end of his work, or so he felt.  While my dad was out golfing or attending Ducks Unlimited meetings, my mom involved herself (too deeply) in us kids’ lives.  For her social interaction, she had a few friends that we weren’t privy to know what went on.  When my dad got home from where ever he was, he always shared a funny story of something that happened.  My mom, on the other hand, was very secretive about her encounters with her friends.  She would try to pass it off as though she and her friends were talking about Christmas and so that was her way of keeping everything hush-hush.  It was always Christmas, nothing ever varied from her story.  As kids, we accepted that since we knew Christmas talk was off limits and if we pushed, supposedly, we wouldn’t get presents.

 Since my parents’ divorce, my dad has married a woman who is fun and loving in all the ways my dad needs.  My mom, however, has been on just a few dates that she has felt obligated to go on.  One of the men she dated lived a safe two hours away.  She was set up with this guy by both one of her friends and my cousin.  Neither the friend nor my cousin knew that they were trying to set the same man up on a date with the same woman.  To the rest of the world, the match seemed like fate.  To my mom, it spelled doom.  Because of the physical distance, my mom let the relationship go on for a few months.  She would drive the distance to this guy’s house and would have lunch and drive back home before it got too dark.  After what seemed like a decent time to the rest of the world, the guy decided that he was going to sleep over at my mom’s house.  If my mom would have had sex with this guy, I would have been perfectly happy for her since she needed to move on from the divorce.  I knew that she valued this guy’s company; they would have been a great match.  My mom fixed supper and the two of them had drinks.  It was obvious from the conversation afterwards that my mom delayed going to sleep, which for her is odd since she’s the type of person that has lights out by 9:30. 

 Ten o’clock rolled around, then eleven.  Finally at one in the morning, she couldn’t hold her eyes open anymore and suggested sleep.  My mom lead the guy upstairs and showed him where the bathroom was.  She waited outside the door for him to finish brushing his teeth and whatnot and then promptly showed him to the guest room informing him that the sheets were clean.  Since it was so late, the guy slept over.  The next morning at breakfast, he broke up with her.  My mom wasn’t disappointed; she was relieved.

 This is how all of her relationships with men have gone since the divorce.  She claims that she’s just really picky with who she wants to date, but when asked what she looks for in a man, she’ll say, “Oh, I just want a man who has nice teeth and good shoes.”  Hello, how hard is that to find?  I can think of a jillion single men her age in her town that would fit that description.  She’s been on Match.com at the insistence of her married friends.  She’s allowed herself to be hooked up on dates.  She’s emailed several different men but always finds a reason to stop after a couple of weeks.  She always turns to the same single woman who also never is in a relationship with a man.

 My mom and her friend are constantly together.  They go camping in the summers; they’ve been to Alaska, California, and Arizona together.  The have supper together several nights a week.  This woman has slept over at my mom’s house when the woman’s kitchen was being remodeled.  My mom let it slip that they shared the same bed.  She didn’t realize what she said and I let it pass getting some relief and understanding about how my mom is.

 When asked, my mom will tell you how she thinks that people in same sex relationships should have all the rights and privileges of marriage as opposite sex relationships.  She’ll tell you that homosexuality is great and wonderful and that it’s got to be something in the person’s genetic makeup.  She’ll say that when she and her friend go out, she knows that people look at her as being a lesbian, but if she were to go out with a married friend, she knows that people view them as just friends.

 This relationship has been going on for twelve years.  I wish my mom felt comfortable coming out to me.  Because she doesn’t, it feels like there’s a huge elephant in the room that no one will acknowledge.  Everyone just pretends like nothing is going on when all I want is for my mom to be comfortable enough to tell me the truth.  My siblings and I have all discussed this and, for the most part, we agree that my mom is a lesbian and I’m okay with that.  It explains so much of my life, it explains to me who she is as a person and why she was the way that she was to my dad.  My mom married my dad because she felt that was what was right in that time period.  She wanted to be a mother, and she got that too.  But now it’s her turn in life now that all of her kids are grown, married and out on their own.  It’s her turn to be comfortable with who she is.  It’s her turn to be happy.  I just wish she would let us in on her secret because there’s no sense in hiding what we all know to be true.

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Your mom may never feel comfortable openly telling you because of the generation she grew up in. But if she's happy now and everyone is happy for her, maybe that's okay.
From experience, I can tell you that coming out is a very hard to do. People can't be rushed into talking about their sexuality.
All you can do is continue to give your mother love and support and wait until the day comes when she is ready to have a talk with you.
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Religion, fears,childhood all combine to make people who know who they are try to hide it. They fear rejection from family and friends and society in general because that's the world that they were born to. The there is thee ingrained belief that there is something wrong or abnormal about themselves that the conditioning makes impossible for them to accept. Or perhaps she is comfortable with the denial and wishes to avoid answering the common questions that people ask of someone who comes out late in life, especially if most of that life was spent in a heterosexual relationship. Maybe to her it is all about privacy and she thinks it is no ones business. Maybe someday she will come out, to you and your sibling and possibly even the world. Until that happens why not just accept what you know? If you really don't care and she chooses to you will get what amounts to no more than confirmation of the fact. If not, well it is her life and if she needs to be silent to be happy then let her.
Have you asked her if she is a lesbian?
Clearly your Mom isn't Kevin Spacey.

But then she's not Patricia Highsmith either.

At this stage of the game she's not going to come out to you. Ever.

You're just going to have to live with it.
Just a gentle suggestion, why not sit down with your Mom and bring it out in the open and discuss it with her. It could mean the rest of her life she is allowed a deeper, more meaningful relationship with her children and her friend.
Be prepared. If you ask her and she isn't ready, she may react with denials and some sort of acting out in an effort to prove( to herself) that she is not gay.
It seems this is more important to you than it is to her. She has apparently made some kind of peace with herself. Just let her be...after all it is what you are hoping for...or is it your comfort level?

Thank you for this, it made me think.
Sometimes, I don't know if the confrontation really belongs to those curious or who want validation. I agree with Steve. In time all is revealed, it might be what you think either. Sometimes we are so convinced about things but we are not always right. If she is, it is her privilege to divulge her own secrets.
Hey Jess, nice to see you back. you didn't ask, but I agree with Steve,on justing letting it be... interesting and know a few woman who have gone this road after divorce...
"If she is, it is her privilege to divulge her own secrets."

No it's not. Miantenance of the coset is not a "priv ilege." It's an act of political aggression.
I agree with the folks above. It's your mom's issue and not yours. "Coming Out" has become, for many, a sort of secular version of New England Puritanical confessionals in a town-meeting. It "may" help the "confessor" but it does far more for the participants and onlookers, it helps validate their sense of the world in many different ways.


Personally, I think your parents' sex life is none of your business. If she wants to share it with you, fine. If not, don't go prying.
She is probably haunted by the entire thing and doesn't want to disappoint anyone. It is shame which is an awful thing. Be compassionate and kind and allow her to be the way she is.
The "L" word isn't that important.

Perhaps you could begin treating your mother's s.o. with the same affection and level of involvement that you would do if your mother had acknowledged the relationship. You might help your mother to go wherever she wants to go.

BTW, I thought this
"Maintenance of the closet is not a "privilege." It's an act of political aggression." was funny.

Lew
I want to say something, but don't quite know what... Perhaps the suggestion that you treat your Mom's SO as an SO would help break the ice - if there is any.

In the long run, though, it's her call. Sorry!
Holy Crap! I'm finding some of these comments (and the people who are making them) to be WAY off base!

First of all, how do you know your mom is a lesbian? Just because she has a close female friend, whom she might even love, doesn't mean that she wants to have sex with her. According to the definition in Wikipedia (and with which I agree) "Lesbian is a term most widely used in the English language to describe sexual and romantic desire between females." I'm assuming that you love your brother and sister, but it would be wrong of me to assume that you want to hop in the sack with them. The same applies to your mom.

Secondly, if your mom ever did have a romantic feelings for / a sexual dalliance with another woman that STILL doesn't make her a lesbian. That just means that she felt the need for the closeness and affection of another human being. I would dare say that there are millions of women in the world who have experimented with or felt desire for another woman, but unless it is a professed lifestyle and/or a current on-going thing, they wouldn't be classified as lesbians; so why should your mom be?

Next, if she IS in a romantic relationship with the other woman it is her business, not anyone else's. She doesn't need to come out of the closet ever, and then only when she is damn well ready and willing. Pushing the subject and/or "outing" her would be nothing short of hurtful. It is MUCH more beneficial to just say "Mom, I love you and I want you to be happy... whatever that takes."

Lastly, I get the feeling from your post, an certainly from many of the comments, that there is something "abnormal" going on. You don't give a damn if she has male friends (including having sex with them) so why the concern if it's a female? Even some of the folks who I KNOW are proponents of equality, seem to be having some issues with that here.

@ David Ehrenstein: SERIOUSLY, dude? Your comment would be funny if it weren't so ridiculous.
P.S. My comments are based upon my own experiences. I have been queer and "out" most of my entire life, so they may differ greatly from some of the folks who have came out later in life.
Like others have said, she may just be keeping her private life, private. That is okay. From what you describe, she's happy. The rest doesn't matter. :)
That your mom has love is the alpah and omega. Anything else just doesn't matter.
Rated.
I have a couple of situations like this in my family. Love is always the bottom line.
"Keeping her private life private" is the boilerplate excuse for gay self-loathing.

Yes SERIOUSLY Amy.
@David: So if a person doesn't "come out" they hate themselves?

FAIL!
My recommendations: First, ask your mom and her friend over to your house for dinner, TV night, cards--whatever you like doing together. Have a great time together--don't worry about whether she ever says the "L" word or not. Enjoy each other and tell your mom how much you love her, how glad you are that she has such a great friend.

Never let her silence about her sexuality or identity detour you from having the best relationship you can have with her while you are both alive. Keep accepting her just where she's at right now, period. Practice acceptance and someday she will open up. If she doesn't, it won't be your fault. You can't control the choices she makes and as long as she isn't hurting anyone you shouldn't even try.

Second, have a great life yourself. Really. Your mom is her own person and she's the one who is responsible for her happiness. The best gift that children can give their parents is to be happy themselves and to pursue their own dreams. Parents are so proud and relieved when they see their own children living fulfilling lives. It lifts their spirits and makes them feel that they did a good job as parents.

Good luck.
So much wisdom gleaned from personal experiences here. This has been a pleasure to read (well... except for the one fringe element, but Amy always takes care of that for us. Yea Amy!) Call me silly, but I've never thought that it mattered what went on between people in their private spaces and places.

This may be related in some way to a personal lifestyle choice. Your mom had a lifestyle that was apparently acceptable to her for most of her life, and may still be very comfortable for her. Even if she has a physical connection with her female friend, she (or even they) may not wish to be the subject of curiosity or the prurient interest of others as far as their relationship is concerned (including her ex).

Although your curiosity about your mother's sex life may have created a sense of distance with her (at least in your own mind), I have to say, I never had a discussion with either of my parents about their sexual relationships with others, or with one another, at any time during their lives. And there may be a WHOLE lot I don't know! But so what? The world is intrusive enough as it is without children and parents feeling owed explanations about the many aspects of our lives we choose to keep private.

I was a little fascinated with your explanation of your parents marriage, and the promise your father made to himself before the wedding. I had a very similar experience, but only because I didn't love the man I was marrying - I just had allowed myself to be convinced it was the 'right' thing to do, and he did as well It wasn't, and we never grew into love as I think we had both hoped we might. Otherwise, it was a good 'match'! I've never remarried and have no interest in doing so. I have a 'best friend' I'm very close to and we've even found ourselves in the same bed now and then, but we're both lifelong straight girls. Always will be. Now, I wonder if my children are bi-curious about me?! Wouldn't that be exciting!?

It seems reasonable that you'll continue honoring their friendship and have a welcome place for each of them in your family life. I don't see that it matters if they share a bed, or more. It would probably be best all around if folks didn't continue to assume your mom wants to be set up on dates, or even that she wants a man in her life. If she does, likely she'll say so and do something about it!

Terrific and thought provoking post!