Snoreville Ledenrocker

Snoreville Ledenrocker
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May 09
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DECEMBER 29, 2009 6:23PM

The Sky is Falling. A Brief History of Media Panic

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Coming Ice Age


The “Science News” (15 Nov. 1969) quoted the worries of meteorologist Dr. J. Murray Mitchell about global cooling: “How long the current cooling trend continues is one of the most important problems of our civilization.”


He continued that if the cooling continued for 200 to 300 years, the earth could be plunged into another ice age.


The first Earth Day was celebrated on April 22, 1970, amidst a building alarm about the dangers of a new ice age. The media had been spreading warnings of a cooling period since the 1950s, but the alarms grew louder in the 1970s. 

Time the big freeze


On 11 January 1970, three months before this first Earth Day, the Washington Post told readers to “get a good grip on your long johns, cold weather haters – the worst may be yet to come.” In an article entitled “Colder Winters Herald Dawn of New Ice Age” climatologist Reid Bryson wrote about the cooling trend: “there’s no relief in sight”.


Journalists took this threat of another ice age seriously. Fortune magazine won a “Science Writing Award” from the American Institute of Physics for its analysis of the danger. It announced in February 1974: “As for the present cooling trend a number of leading climatologists have concluded that it is very bad news indeed.”


The article continued: “It is the root cause of a lot of that unpleasant weather around the world and they warn that it carries the potential for human disasters of unprecedented magnitude.” The article also emphasized extreme doomsday predictions: “There is very important climatic change going on right now, and it’s not merely something of academic interest. .. .. It is something that, if it continues, will affect the whole human occupation of the earth – like a billion people starving. The effects are already showing up in a rather drastic way.”


In 1974 Science News” reported: “the cooling since 1940 has been large enough and consistent enough that it will not soon be reversed.”


The Christian Science Monitor (27 August 1974) continued in the same tone: "Warning: Earth's Climate is Changing Faster than Even Experts Expect. .. .. glaciers have begun to advance .. .. growing seasons in England and Scandinavia are getting shorter .. .. the North Atlantic is cooling down about as fast as an ocean can cool".


A few months later a New York Times article (29 December 1974) reported on global cooling by pointing out that climatologists believed "the facts of the present climate change are such that the most optimistic experts would assign near certainty to major crop failure in a decade." There was a warning that unless government officials reacted to the coming catastrophe "mass deaths by starvation and probably in anarchy and violence" would result.

 In 1975, the same newspaper reported that "A major cooling [was] widely considered to be inevitable."


Further articles warned of this coming ice age.


Newsweek reported on 28 April 1975: "There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and .. .. these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production -with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now. The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self-sufficient tropical areas - parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia – where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon."


At about the same time as this article was published in 1975 a headline in the New York Times read: 'Climate Changes Endanger World's Food Output.'"

Time 06 Be worried 



Time Magazine also raised fears of an ice age: "As they review the bizarre and unpredictable weather pattern of the past several years, a growing number of scientists are beginning to suspect that many seemingly contradictory meteorological fluctuations are actually part of a global climatic upheaval."


“The cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people in poor nations,” wrote Lowell Ponte in his 1976 book “The Cooling.” If the proper measures weren’t taken, he cautioned, then the cooling would lead to “world famine, world chaos, and probably world war, and this could all come by the year 2000.”



2000 vs 2009 Ice 


Here's my take on the world temperature cooling or raising a degree. Big fucking deal. Is it possible life as we know it isn't ending? That if you ask IPCC scientists if a crisis is serious enough to let them manage a trillion dollars in carbon tax funds they will say yes every time? Hot, cold, whatever.


On another note, can't polar bears swim?




Text from John A Furgusons "Scary Climate Change" pdf.








Sun Temp and C02 120 






I personally took screen captures of the satelite artic ice which anyone can do and confirm that artic ice in Jan 09 is the same as Jan 00. But I'll leave you with the boogeyman himself:


But none of that really matters. We wont be around much longer to warm the planet. We'll all be dead of swine flu.

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Egads. Does this mean we should burn more carbon to ward off the coming Ice Age? I'm really confused and wish I could get a job at the IPCC.
Since C02 is only half a percent of atmospheric gasses and only 5% of that is man made, there is nothing we could do to alter the atmosphere short of a nuclear war.
When is someone going to declare the Global Bullshit Pandemic? I guess I'll have to be the first.
"The notion that the 1970s scientific consensus was for impending global cooling is incorrect. In actuality, there were significantly more papers in the 1970s predicting warming than cooling.
Scientific studies in the 1970's re global cooling

Most predictions of an impending ice age came from the popular press (eg - Newsweek, NY Times, National Geographic, Time Magazine). As far as peer reviewed scientific papers in the 1970s, very few papers (7 in total) predicted global cooling. Significantly more papers (42 in total) predicted global warming due to CO2. More on 1970s science..."

The scientific consensus in the '70s favored warming, not cooling. This is just another lazy, easily disproven denialist canard.

BTW, I used to Lowell Ponte on left wing KPFK radio in he '70s. Ponte isn't a scientist. While an educated layman can understand his subject, his book is hardly auhoritative. Ponte is a libertarian champion of laissez faire capitalism who now, not surprisingly, denies global warming.
"Since C02 is only half a percent of atmospheric gasses and only 5% of that is man made, there is nothing we could do to alter the atmosphere short of a nuclear war."

Unlike other atmospheric gases, CO2 traps heat. Without the CO2 in the atmosphere, the Earth would not retain much of the infrared radiation from the Sun that warms the Earth's surface. CO2 is hardly negligble, whatever its percentage of the total composition of the atmosphere.

This is simple science. C02 traps heat - We're generating rising levels of atmospheric CO2 - the Earth's temperature is rising.

There's another reason not to increase atmospheric CO2. The ocean acts as a carbon sink. The increase in atmospheric CO2 is acidifying the oceans. Fragile green plankton near the ocean's surface generate most of the oxygen in our atmosphere. Those plankton, as well as all life forms, exist in a narrow range of environmental conditions. We are altering those conditions at our peril.

We are gambling with our future and the continued existence of an ecosphere needed to keep the Earth habitable for humans.
Peter the earth cooled for 40 years between 1940 and 1980 as C02 rose. Explain that? Or that Jan 09 Artic Ice is virtually identical to Jan 2000 artic ice if not more? If warming was true they wouldnt have to lie and hide statistics to make it appear like it hasnt cooled for a long period this century and is cooling again. It is a hoax. A massive hoax for money and political gain. Nothing more. Even if the ocean rose 1 or 2 feet the next 100 years it is hardly the catasrophe Gore talks about. But it wont because the earth is cooling now. All long term charts show that its been warmer, colder, more C02 and Ice, and follows nearly predictable millenial patterns. A 1 degree difference doesnt mean squat. It didnt mean a coming ice age like the Times story, and it wont mean the earth in flames like your set is screaming about. Climate changes. That is not news.
It's not surprising to see that you didn't take the time to take even a cursory read of the web site I linked. You're merely satisfied in repeating yourself, like a broken record. I have no idea where you got the pictures of the arctic ice mass (I suspect they are the same image with different dates attached, a decepion), but I'm not going to waste my time to investigate them, since you won't bother to take so much as a glance at anything contradicting your position.
The earth didn't cool from th '40s through the '80s, the prior warming trend stalled. A likely reasion was the immense amount of particulate matter thrown into the atmosphere by the enormous combustion of material during WWII and the Korean War, especially that generated by fire-bombed cities, the A bombs on Japan and atmospheric atomic tests. The particulate matter counterracted the rise of CO2 for a time. In science, this is known as a confounding variable.
The link to artic ice can be found in an earlier post

I simply took the first month they showed with an equivalent month in 2009. Ice gain and drops drastically between seasons as the video demonstrates. But compare them on the same month and you get a realistic picture.
The original source of Jan 2000 and Jan 09 artic ice is:

Satellite Observation of Arctic Sea Ice Concentration, Sensor: SSM/I 85 GHz. Visualized on the visualization server of the German Climate Computing Centre (DKRZ) by Carmen Ulmen/KlimaCampus Hamburg.

What I find amusing is nature demonstrating the silliness of the global warming scare even without catching the top scientists fixing data and defrauding the public. The drops in temperature the past few years have almost made up for the gains the past 100. How sad. The world isnt ending. Oh well. People will have to find another windmill to tilt at. New data to fudge. New crusades to take up. New scams to pull, trying to get at billions of dollars, while keeping the poorest countries poor and unable to compete, while developing countries do whatever they please anyway. The third world has to modernize. The corealation between solar activity and temp is obviously much greater than C02 and temp.
truth is that the melting of the North Western States, show snow and ice between mountains is causing water shortages over the last dozen years or more and the entire Northwst coastal areas , down through the middle and southwest are struggling through water shortages asd a Result. The last Ice Age 12,800 years ago is the scenario for early melting in some areas, and flooding lower inhabited areas and refreezing in others. GreenLand snow and ice is melting at record pace, when the ice floods inhabited areas in winter refreezing we do stand to see another Ice Age. Global Warming of ice caps, whatever the cause, at the poles does translate to floods of areas of areas south of the glacier zones. Those areas in winter following those floods cause inhabited areas to have ICE AGE symptoms.

Global warming in its purest sense refers to glacier and heavy snow areas and certainly can cause and New Ice Age. The last Ice Age wiped out many of the large mammals but did not affect Homo Sapiens as much. Man may survive Global warming Floods Followed by and New Ice Age, but it will result in land wars south near the Equator as those in the barren North of Europe, Asia and North America try to migrate away from the Cold.
The may, however, be reduced to snowball and icicle spears, which could be a lark for guys like me who throw baseballs in the mid-90 mph range. So, let's see how that goes.
If the second chart is any indication, the amount of ice should increase for about 10,000 years, decrease and increase back and forth with an overall massive increase the next 150,000 years. Looking at temperatures the past 400,000 years its hard to tell what it will do next, go up or down because it seems to have leveled off the past 5000 or so years, and I'm pretty sure GM isn't 5,000 years old. Volanoes are though.
Well prof all you have to do is look at long range charts to guess what will happen next. What seems obvious is large fluctuations have been going on long before we got here. We are at apretty low point for ice, but you can see a general downward pattern from half a million years ago. In fact the peaks have gotten higher also. The earths eliptical orbit becomes less eliptical about every 150,000 which explains a lot of the highs and lows. I'll have to find that link on wikipedia again. That has more effect than even solar activity. It involves how close and far we get to the sun. The extremes we experience. It is hard to predict 100 years forward. The changes are over long periods but more predictable than any stock market price for good reasons though we dont understand them all. We are ants on a mountain.
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